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Saturday, 19 December 2015

Interivew: Honda Six50 Designer, Adrian Sellers

Last week I posted images of, and thoughts about, one of Honda Europe's 2015/16 concept bikes, the Honda CBSix50. Within the hour, an old friend, the motorcycle designer Ian Wride, emailed me about some of the comments I made and put me in touch with the Six50's designer, Adrian Sellers. I'm a concept bike nut, and asked if Adrian was happy to answer a few question. This is what I got back.
Adrian Sellers
Age: 34 
Nationality: USA 

What’s your role at Honda Europe?   
Senior Designer, Concept and Design Development Department, Honda R and D Europe (Italia).

What projects have you been involved with that you can tell us about? 
I'm mostly involved in advanced projects, so that pretty much eliminates saying anything! Of things you've seen, I've most recently been involved in the Forza 125, City ADV concept and accessories, and a number of special editions - and of course the the Six50 as you already know.  I've also designed Honda's EICMA display and booth for the past two years.   

Before working at Honda, I was with GK Design and Yamaha Motor in the US where I designed many of Yamaha's US market motorcycles, from cruisers to dirt bikes.   

Top three fave bikes of all time? 
Ducati 916 
Honda Elf prototypes 
Britten V1000 

Number one current bike? 
That's tough - I can't say I am really inspired by any current production motorcycle.

We’ve had the sportsbike boom, adventure bikes, then the whole retro thing (obviously still major sectors), but what’s the next emerging trend for Northern Hemisphere biking? 
Sorry, classified! 

What was the brief for the CBSix50 and who wrote the brief? 
I wrote the brief in collaboration with our planning department.  It was based on extensive research we conducted over the past year and a half into areas of opportunity in the naked segment for the Honda brand. 

It’s been labeled a scrambler. What do you call it? 
Since the beginning, I've called it 'Urban Adventure' - it's more or less intended as a motorcycle expression of the SUV trend. The Adventure trend is strong now, in all markets, but most people who have 'adventure' vehicles don't use them off road. The point is to feel protected, tough and versatile relative to other drivers, so the Urban Adventure is aimed at this expression of power and toughness, with the off-road style aspects showing versatility and possibility. 

What is the purpose of a concept like this to a company like Honda? 
To communicate with our customers - to build excitement, and involve our customers in our design process. 

What are the challenges for a designer of making a concept? 
There are a million challenges, from the aesthetic to the political. The most important, of course, is being certain that your direction is correct  There's always an element of risk that you get it wrong, but through research, discussion, and the intuition necessary for a designer, your margin of error is hopefully minimized. 

Is it a dream come true to create a concept, or would you rather be working on production bikes? 
Both have their exciting points - it's incredibly satisfying to see someone riding a bike you designed months or years after its release. But with concepts, you have a much more free hand - they can be a more direct expression of your dream - and because of this have the possibility to inspire others to a much higher degree than a production bike. 

What is the pecking order of designers who get given a concept? Is it something for juniors (to push boundaries) or chief designers (to lead trends)? 
 concept can come from anywhere in design. Sometimes it's a product of research, sometimes the product of an inspiring sketch. Whether this comes from a junior or senior designer is largely irrelevant, but if a junior designer's idea is chosen, then a senior member will often guide their hand through the realisation process. 

How much time do you have it this concept and did you, do the clay modelling? Do designers even do clay modelling in these times of 3D printing? 
From concept to EICMA took over a year.  We still work in clay - it's essential, given the the very visceral connection between a rider and the bike - but also fully integrate 3D into the process, often trading back and forth between the two to realise the final show bikes. To make a show model requires working with clay modellers, 3D modellers, craftsmen, and suppliers - it's a complicated process. For this model, I had the pleasure of doing some of the clay work myself, as well as building the 3D models for a number of the final rapid prototype parts you see on the bike. 

The dash looks quite radical and really caught my eye - what is the thinking behind it, how does it differ to current dashboards? 
Thank you for noticing! I really wanted to express a playful modernity that takes the form factor and high quality material expression that we are familiar with in mobile phones, tablets, etc., and blend it with physical buttons that reference video game controllers - familiar forms in a new context. 

Is the bodywork on the concept painted clay or real, usable material? 
Real! 

What would have to change to productionise this concept? 
We designed this and its sister concept the CB4 (below) to be as realisable as possible.  Of course we take liberties with materials and technology that would be difficult to implement without extraordinary cost in production, but that's one of the joys of doing a concept bike! 

What’s the likelihood we’ll see something like this bike from Honda, and if we do, will we recognise it as a very close relative of the CBSix50? 
I can tell you that the response has been extraordinarily positive, so you never know!

Wednesday, 9 December 2015

Honda CBSix50 Concept

Ostensibly, this is a post about a Honda Europe concept bike, but first some background. Sideburn is a high-quality print mag, with a blog originally set up after the first issue was published to promote the magazine. This is not the way most indie mags do it. They build up a following online then go into print. Makes sense.

The blog quickly developed a life of its own, and at times has dabbled with delivering news, but we're not set up for that. We don't sell ads on the blog, so it's self-financed, meaning we can't have someone sat waiting to regurgitate press releases from events (like most motorcycle sites do). I used to do morning-after reports on the GNC, but then fanschoice.tv came along and I didn't want to spoil anyone's fun who didn't watch it live.

But we still schedule at least one post every day, sharing our interests, rides, road trips, races, friends' exploits and new products.

So, that whole preamble was to explain why I'm two weeks late sharing this concept that was shown at EICMA.

Named the Honda CBSix50, it's based on the somewhat tepid, but capable CB650F and it's making the whole 'scrambler' trend into a bona fide craze, but it's a far more unlikely twist than Ducati's retro-inspired bestsellers.

Stock CB650F frame (with modified seat subframe), swingarm, engine, downpipes are all retained. USD forks are from the Honda parts bin. Wheels and discs are new (and not from any Honda I recognise), but the bodywork is the most obvious difference, with a new design that could hint at the next direction for Honda's nakeds (if in a slightly watered-down style).
Japanese nakeds have become more and more radical over recent years, ploughing a different furrow to the fashionable retro remakes that have been attracting a great deal of interest. Most of this Honda concept isn't so far from what could seem feasible, especially considering Yamaha already makes the wild looking MT-09 Street Rally and MT-10. I love inline triples and fours, and big nakeds (I used to edit Streetfighters magazine in the 1990s and haven't shaken the attraction to the best of that genre), so these bikes are flicking my switches.

The whole thing looks a bit low to be anything other than Scrambler-style, so it should have it's own tag, like Urban Fighter or City Cross or some such marketing buzzword. 'Yeah, we're moving into the burgeoning middleweight City Cross segment with this bike.' Remember where you heard it first.
I'd have one. I like the digital camo as well, but I think I'm a little bit old to carry it off (which is where the Ducati-style retro hits the mark. Young riders like it and older riders don't look stupid or as if they're trying too hard if they ride one). Those big block Continental TKC80-style tyres don't mix with 100-plus horsepower, strong brakes and wet tarmac, though. I know from bitter experience.

While I'm hinting at grabbing too much front brake and sliding off on an oily roundabout entrance, the red crash bars look like they might save the radiator, but would pivot the bike over enough to mangle the tank.

The flatscreen LCD dash, that appears to be removable, is a nice touch and I'd love to hear the designer's spiel on what it could possibly do (but couldn't find that info anywhere. Point it out to me if you can find it). The alloy Rizoma-style brake reservoir is nasty, though.
While trying to find some decent photos of the concept I found this brilliant video. No one (except perhaps Robbie Maddison) does better videos than Honda. G

Friday, 16 October 2015

Yamaha DT-07 Concept video


Thanks to Lenny Schuurmans for pointing us to this video.
It's from venerable US magazine Motorcyclist, who are obviously putting a big effort into an online presence. The presenter of the piece says to the Yamaha spokesperson, 'If you don't build this you're missing the boat.' But does he mean as a road bike or a racer? I'd be surprised if this isn't a ready to ride racer in this form.

So, let's assume he means a road bike version. If a company can't make a good looking concept they want shooting, but a production road bike could never look like this. It would need a front and long rear fenders; licence plate holders; reflectors; turn signals; front brake system; mirrors; lights; probably/possibly a small oil cooler; catalytic converter... It would be very unlikely to have 19in wheels, unless they had a partner willing to develop and test new tyres (for a niche motorcycle). Yamaha built the Trickster Tricker with a tiny tank, so they might be able to convince the product planning department that the public will buy a bike with a small tank, but will the public? In the numbers a production bike demands? The Scrambler is hitting the mark globally, so it's no unfeasible. Kawasaki built the supercharged H2, so stranger things have happened in recent years.

But, I think a lot of people seem to be missing the point, when they see this and envisage a road bike. It's far more likely Yamaha want a piece of the X Games marketing pie, and see Rossi as an FZ-07 street bike marketing tool, if they can link this concept to that road bike (that isn't a bad looking if you like that sort of thing).

Dirt track bikes look so good to so many because while they look like a traditional street bike, they don't have to play by road bike rules. Manufacturers are getting cleverer at packaging and I'm not saying Yamaha couldn't make a good looking road-going street tracker, but, perhaps with the exception of the early twin downtube Honda FTR250 (and even that needed its fender extenders removing), I can't think of a manufacturer who has made a good-looking, straight from the showroom, production street tracker, but perhaps you disagree. G

SCROLL DOWN to see an earlier post on this bike.

Thursday, 15 October 2015

Yamaha FZ-07 DT Concept

I got really excited when I saw this, thinking it was a real 2016 race bike, but it has been launched today at AIMExpo, a US bike show, as a concept. Is calling it a concept a way of backing out if it doesn't work or budgets get cut?

Babe DeMay has been running a GNC Yamaha out of his own pocket this season. First year pro Dominic Colindres came home a fantastic fourth on their bike at the most recent GNC round, the Roar on the Shore, Delaware Half-mile (watch the race on Fanschoice.tv).

Are Yamaha actually going to make an official team effort or hedge their bets like so many of the US importers do with flat track? I hope the former, if I had to bet, I'd say the latter. I hope my cynicism is unfounded.

Cycleworld.com says Yamaha are threatening track testing. Informed racewatchers already say Yamaha US golden boy JD Beach will be on it at the 2016 X Games.

I've heard talk of Indian joining the GNC but I haven't seen an official announcement. Can anyone point us to one? G

Top Photo: Greg White
Thanks to Roger for the CW link.

Tuesday, 2 June 2015

Flying Cars II

Long-time supporter, Driver Chris, left a comment on the blog post below saying he'd done the whole flying car thing back in 2010. And he did. Here are his efforts. Click his name to check out his blog.

Flying Cars

 Amazing concept /photoshop trickery by Sylvain Viau.

Citroen cars are famous for their very smooth handling and hydraulic suspension system. They are usually nicknamed 'flying carpet'. 

This is my own flying carpet after little custom works, a Cx Gti Turbo produced in 1984 ! Much more comfortable like this ! Then I pushed the idea with other cars, and it's still working. 

 I'm ready to experiment this change on any car, provided I can drive it myself to my usual shooting place in Cherbourg. This is my only condition!

Sunday, 4 January 2015

Cars and Women

Yes, sometimes (often), I'm that shallow.
If anyone knows where I can find more photos of women with 1970s supercars and concept cars, please let me know.

The photo below has quickly become one of my favourites of all time, though I don't know who took it for what purpose or even what the car is. Hopefully someone can fill me in.
Photos found at: Le Container, Twwhlspls, Dulicis Domus G

Monday, 14 April 2014

Triumph Dirt Quake III Bikenstein

Some of the guys over at Triumph's Hinckley HQ are getting excited about this year's Dirt Quake III. Reno, from the design office, knocked this Bikenstein up in his spare time.

Read more about Bikensteins in Sideburn 9. G

Thursday, 30 May 2013

Bikenstein: Dirt Quake II Edition

This is a Bikenstein. Read all about them in Sideburn 9. Thanks to Martin P, out in Japan, for this one.

Hey guys,
Not terrible busy at work today (some people might disagree...), so I decided to do a bikenstein Dirt Quake II special! Based on the new KTM 1190 adv. It's also a bit of Bott XR, a drop of Deus and Radical Ducati topped of with a Jason Poznat tank, is it a recipe for success you reckon? Or is it rather a combo to get yourself killed?
Hope to take part for real one day, not only via photoshop...
All the best, Martin

Friday, 1 February 2013

Verona 2013 pt2: The Harleys

There are a ton of Harleys at the Motor Bike Expo, but this one, The Greyhound, was my favourite. Cafe racer style, but with high bars; proper forks and brakes; chain conversion and a great colour. 
 Free Spirits Sportster.
 Neat Ironhead.
 The Jap tank on a hardtail has been done too much, for my taste, but still a neat Shovel.
 And another...
 And another, very HWZN-style.
This commuter bike caused a stir. The builder looks like Lemmy. 
Flathead.
Custom bike as concept bike. No brakes, no suspension, no wiring, no go, but it still stopped me dead. Those are 125 racing Marchesini wheels with slicks. I liked this a lot. G

Monday, 17 December 2012

Christmas Spirit

Our friends over at Spirit of the Seventies have been busy. Kawasaki GB commissioned them to do a number on the W800 and then put it on their stand at the biggest bike show in the UK. It's great that small UK companies are getting recognition from the bigger players.
Below is a Ducati they built for a customer earlier in the year. At the bottom is a concept for a liquid-cooled Ducati that hasn't materialised yet. Hopefully one day.
Find out more at Spirit of the Seventies. G

Tuesday, 6 March 2012

Sprit 749R Concept

This is a concept by Kev at Spirit of the Seventies. I've seen his concepts made real and he really manages to create 2D images of bikes the company can create months in advance of them getting the spanners out. So I've no doubt they could make this bike, if someone comes up with the money to commission it.
The chassis looks standard at first glimpse, but is a special Spirit spoke to UK legends Harris about making for them.
I'd like to see how to tank looks from the top. G

Friday, 13 January 2012

Ducati Concept Tracker

V-twin with the front cylnder blocked off, from the brain of Lusca.
If this gets you thinking, check out the Bikensteins. G

Wednesday, 26 October 2011

KTM Street Tracker Concept

Fantastic design from Ian in Italy...

I was going through some work I've done over the years and found this old sketch, thought you guys might dig it. It was a quick concept for a flat track racer based on the then-new KTM 690SMC chassis with the induction up top and fuel tank doubling as a subframe. I did end up working for Kiska (the design firm that handles KTM) for a while after this, but the sketch pre-dated my employment and doesn't reflect any intentions of the company, just my own fantasy. Hope you enjoy it.
Love the blog and the mag, keep up the good work!
Best, Ian

Tuesday, 8 March 2011

Bottpower XR-1

Saw this bike on Hell for Leather. It's a concept by the Spanish Bottpower outfit. It's powered by a Buell engine. They even call it an XR. I wonder what the motor company will have to say about that (especially as we're told they paid Storz a lot of money to buy the XR1200 tag). GI

'The BOTT XR-1 is a bike based on a Buell, who acts as a donor of wheels, suspensions, brakes, engine and swingarm. The intention is to create a motorbike with flattrack aesthetics, based on the Harley XR 750 racers. To build this bike we had to design a central spine chassis. We will give more details about this chassis in following posts.
'The idea about building this bike is from Ramón Bellosta, the guy who asked us to build this chassis. I think it is a very good idea because the BOTT XR-1 will be very funny to ride. The Harley XR1200 is the most similar thing you can find on the market, but while the Harley weights 250 kgs and has 85 HP, the BOTT XR-1 will weight 170 kgs, will have more than 100 HP, and it will have much more agressive geometries, so it will be a much more agile bike.
'Ramón will finish the bike following his taste, but in Bottpower we couldn’t avoid to make some renders to explore the aesthetic possibilities of this concept. It is very probable that we continue making renders during the following weeks, testing different ideas.
'If the project stirs up enough interest we will think about making a kit, so anybody interested could be able to build a BOTT XR-1 starting from a Buell.'