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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:47, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Bruce Weber (reporter) → The New York Times  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There is no discussion or dialogue about a reporter named Bruce Weber at the target article, leaving searchers on a goose chase to read a long page to find nothing about their search term. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 23:58, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. I've not managed to find any coverage of him on en.wp (although as Bruce Weber (photographer) has also had work published in/reviewed by the New York Times it's quite possible I've missed something). Courtesy ping to Jmg38 who removed the entry from the dab page last year. Thryduulf (talk) 00:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Only two links: first was needlessly added in November 2023 to his name originally entered in an en.wiki article in 2005, a classic WP:WTAF that was not looking/needing to be written for the previous 18 years (and an edit should remove his name anyway - an unsupported advertisement for a teaching program that is sufficiently covered by the three properly bluelinked [still unsupported] examples given in the same sentence); second was needlessly added in December 2023 to his name originally entered in an en.wiki article in 2011, a link not needed for the previous 12 years (and an edit should remove the name on this one anyway - replace In his obituary for Peter Yates, Bruce Weber wrote, "Mr. Yates' reputation simply... with His obituary in The New York Times states that his "reputation simply... ). Jmg38 (talk) 01:40, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Sometimes Wikipedia is not the best way to find info. Johnbod (talk) 03:01, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom and the above. A7V2 (talk) 07:08, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Box Office Entertainment Awards. Good call (non-admin closure) Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 00:47, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Box-Office Entertainment Awards → Award  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of "box", "office", or "entertainment" at the target article. Created in 2008 by a suspected sockpuppet of a banned editor. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 23:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Box Office Entertainment Awards as a plausible misspelling. Thryduulf (talk) 00:45, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:48, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Bosch Institute → Sydney Medical School  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of "Bosch", and only one mention of "institute" at the target article, this mention being a general usage. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 23:42, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Jay 💬 15:46, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Legoktm (talk) 00:55, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 06:34, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Bo’oh’o’wa’er → T-glottalization  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The article for T-glottalization does not discuss water or "wa'er". This is type-able only as a meme, but the article in question does not discuss memes or any of their implications about Bri'ish pronunciation. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 23:41, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete en.wiki is not an indiscriminate collection of memes --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:19, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Legoktm (talk) 00:57, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Cranberry Station → Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Does not seem like we have any content on the GTA meaning of this, but there are Terra_Alta,_West_Virginia#History and Ilwaco_Railway_and_Navigation_Company#Cranberry_Station on other uses. 1234qwer1234qwer4 03:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:33, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Not much information at the two articles. Delete to favour search results. The pre-redirect page history was a one-line unsourced stub, and needn't be retained. Jay 💬 09:02, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 06:44, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Bill Kilday → Niantic, Inc.  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This individual might have worked for Niantic since its founding as Keyhole, but Kilday is not mentioned at the target article, so people looking for this topic will not receive any information pertinent to it within the prose. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 23:33, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was going to eventually write an improvement with the Niantic article to include Bill Kilday. Let's see if I can get something going for a sufficient mention of him in the Niantic article. – The Grid (talk) 15:28, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just updated the article to have a mention at least. I'll probably add more when I have the time – The Grid (talk) 17:05, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - I don't think the bare mention added is enough to justify this redirect. A7V2 (talk) 07:19, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - I just found out he hasn't been with Niantic since October 2023. I can still improve the Niantic article because their intro as Keyhole has been badly needed. – The Grid (talk) 14:44, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was soft redirect to Wikt:subfebrile. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Subfebrile → Fever  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Unfortunately no mention at target; it looks like a soft redirect to wikt:subfebrile is the only option right now. 1234qwer1234qwer4 16:38, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:32, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Soft redirect to wikt:subfebrile per nom. It seems like the best option since there's no mention at the article. Regards, SONIC678 17:40, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Soft redirect I think is the best option here. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:42, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:03, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Big Yud → Eliezer Yudkowsky  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of "Big Yud" at the target article. Tagged as an r from non-neutral name without mention, as it was upon creation in 2018. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 23:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support It is a joke name for Yudkowsky that is not used seriously, and almost certainly not in any RS. I doubt this redirect is helping anyone. Gbear605 (talk) 03:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. It's a joke name for Yudkowsky, which makes the existence of this redirect extremely funny. No Yuds were harmed in the making of this redirect. (I don't think it counts as non-neutral or offensive; I've only seen it used jokingly or affectionately.) – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 17:43, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. A google search shows that this nickname is actually used online, so it's probably useful. Somebody could see people discussing "Big Yud" on a forum and not know who it is, so they might search for that title. I'm also not sure if the name is "non-neutral" or offensive, so I can't comment on that. Di (they-them) (talk) 22:44, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Name is in use online, target is unambiguous (no one else has this nickname to my knowledge, and if they did, Eliezer would be the WP:PTOPIC). Since the use is in the wild, people will want to look up what it means. Fieari (talk) 01:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Battletoads (1991 video game). Jay 💬 08:51, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Big Blag → Battletoads  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

R with history. No mention of a "Blag" at the target article. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 23:26, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just redirect it to Battletoads_(1991_video_game), the article of the first video game. It's expected that the article on the franchise doesn't mention Blag. --uKER (talk) 13:56, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Lamb and mutton#Cuts. Legoktm (talk) 00:57, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Barnsley Chop → Meat chop  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Barnsley chop → Meat chop  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No mention of "Barnsley" at the target article, unclear relationship to the target besides that they are both a form of "chop". Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 23:23, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note I've added the lowercase redirect to this discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 01:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Add content I'm very surprised we don't have much content about this (there is a mention in a footnote at Culture of England), and there is absolutely no shortage of sources about it (I'm not convinced the nominator has done any sort of BEFORE here). The only thing I'm uncertain of is where the mention is best, hopefully someone more familiar with editing food articles will know better than me. Thryduulf (talk) 01:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Lamb and mutton#Cuts per Johnbod below. Thryduulf (talk) 11:46, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and change the current target: Added to Lamb_and_mutton#Cuts, where it belongs. Totally notable if anyone wanted to do an article. Johnbod (talk) 03:10, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and change per Johnbod. I agree that in its current form as proposed it is useless, and I see that if changed as proposed it would be useful, probably also delicious. DBaK (talk) 08:50, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. I would point out that when I created the lowercase redirect, there was a description of a Barnsley chop at Meat chop! It appears to have been removed. But yes, Johnbod's suggestion sounds like the best one. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:07, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ^Complex/_Rational 19:19, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• All my life, it's like I'm always just about to fall off the edge of the world's tallest building. I stopped falling the second I saw you. → West Side Story (2021 film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of "all my life", or any other part of this quote, at the target article. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 23:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak soft redirect to q:West Side Story (2021 film), where that quote is mentioned, but I'm also open to deletion if that doesn't work. I'm not sure if this will work, but this line is mentioned on the Wikiquote page, and it may potentially be helpful. Regards, SONIC678 15:21, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Wikiquote has its own Search function. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - I might have been okay with either of the two sentences alone (debatable at least), but both is too much. Fieari (talk) 00:18, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Legoktm (talk) 00:58, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• East Hill, Wisconsin → Wausau, Wisconsin  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Franklin Hill, Wisconsin → Wausau, Wisconsin  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

These do not appear at the target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:14, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Jay 💬 19:05, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Mikhael Gromov (mathematician). Legoktm (talk) 00:59, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Misha Gromov → Mikhail Gromov  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Yes, "Misha" is a standard shortening of Mikhail in Russian, but I can't find any source referring to the aviator with this shortening, so this seems to unambiguously refer to Mikhael Gromov (mathematician). (If this were to be kept though, then Michael Gromov should be retargeted to the disambig as well since it is only more likely to be ambiguous.) 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:06, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• What the nom said. Jay 💬 13:50, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:33, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Dendrolaelaps baculus → Dendrolaelaps  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Dendrolaelaps baddeley → Dendrolaelaps  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Dendrolaelaps baixuelii → Dendrolaelaps  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Dendrolaelaps bakeri → Dendrolaelaps  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Dendrolaelaps balazyi → Dendrolaelaps  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Dendrolaelaps bengalensis → Dendrolaelaps  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Dendrolaelaps bialowiezae → Dendrolaelaps  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Dendrolaelaps bidentatus → Dendrolaelaps  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Dendrolaelaps bistilus → Dendrolaelaps  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Dendrolaelaps brasiliensis → Dendrolaelaps  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

List of ~120 titles from CAT:RAW. All of these are species that are listed on List of Dendrolaelaps species, apparently. However, each of these is a redirect to Dendrolaelaps, which mentions none of these. There may indeed be procedurally generated history in each, from User:qbugbot, among possibly others. Most of which are no longer mentioned in the sources, hence they've been converted into redirects. I am not an expert on these species, but I am an "expert" in knowing these are not useful redirects to Dendrolaelaps, and mislead readers with no current information at the target article. Notably, Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 9#Dendrolaelaps aberratus closed as delete. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 22:41, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to List of Dendrolaelaps species maybe? Note that some entries there are redlinks, though there might be a case for unlinking the whole list. 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:46, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@1234qwer1234qwer4:, many of these were created as redirects. Letting you know I have just added the previous discussion to this, where one species closed as delete. While most of these were created as redirects, some became auto-generated articles. However, they were BLAR'd after "no longer being in the cited reference", apparently. Dendrolaelaps langi is such an example. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 22:52, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all. Many of these aren't mentioned at List of Dendrolaelaps species, and some that are mentioned are not currently accepted species according to GBIF (which is the source for the species list). The species list could stand to be updated (and possibly merged to the genus article). These redirects can be deleted per WP:REDYES. Plantdrew (talk) 16:21, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to John Spendluffe Technology College. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 07:58, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• JSTC → Bauru-Arealva Airport  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target. Apparently also refers to John Spendluffe Technology College. 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:20, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to John Spendluffe Technology College, or disambiguate if there's more, but retargeting is better than keeping at the current target where the acronym isn't mentioned. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 00:46, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget per Utopes. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 02:04, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:34, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Four Fs (evolution → Four Fs (evolution)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Missing parenthesis makes this an unlikely search term; this is not how we do disambiguation. External links should not cause us to create unnatural, otherwise inappropriate titles. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 22:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per WP:RDAB. Duckmather (talk) 23:53, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as malformed. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 00:13, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Now Dance 89 - 20 Smash Dance Hits (The 12" Mixes → Now That's What I Call Music! discography#Now Dance series (1985–2023)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Does not contain a closing parentheses. A common mistake, but unlikely search term. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 22:12, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per WP:RDAB. No history. Duckmather (talk) 00:00, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete due to malformed dabifier --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:20, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as malformed. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 00:14, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Picton Airport (New Zealand → Koromiko, New Zealand  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Missing a closing redirect parenthesis. Seems to have been an intentional move? I can't parse it. I'd like to speedy it though, little history. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 22:11, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per WP:RDAB. Only history was a page move. (Also, @Utopes, it's not missing a closing redirect, it's missing a closing parenthesis.) Duckmather (talk) 00:10, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ty for catching lol ;) Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 00:12, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. A redirect without the typo exists (and links to the right article). Nurg (talk) 10:28, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as malformed. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 00:14, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• The Devastator (film → The Devastator (film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Missing a closing parentheses. A common mistake. Was converted into a redirect instead of being deleted. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 22:09, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per WP:RDAB. This apparently used to be a stab at an article but was redirected in the very next edit. Duckmather (talk) 00:11, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete due to malformed dabifier --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:21, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete it was at this title for about a minute in May and the correct title was created by the same author about another minute later so there is probably no need for a history merge and as such there is nothing worth keeping in this page's history. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:28, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. Also, per the page's edit history, seems this redirect should have been tagged for WP:G7 speedy deletion. Steel1943 (talk) 19:15, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as malformed. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 00:14, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• And I think to myself: 'What a wonderful world.' → What a Wonderful World  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of "think" or "myself". This lyric is not discussed at the target page. People using this search term would already know the song title as it's baked into the redirect, and this is an implausible way of searching for such a song, as nobody would expect the song title to contain a colon and singular apostrophes around the "what a wonderful world", plus a period. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 20:39, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:36, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Everybody in the whole cell block was dancing to the Jailhouse Rock → Jailhouse Rock (song)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

While this lyric does contain "Jailhouse Rock", that is more of a reason that people who type this, already know what the song is called. To that end, typing out the full lyric implies that they're looking for content related to the lyric. Unfortunately, this lyric is not mentioned at the target page. No mentions of "everybody", "cell", "block", "cellblock", "cell block", or "dancing" (the only use of "dancing" in the article, is as a category). Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 20:34, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:36, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• All the young dudes carry the news, boogaloo dudes carry the news → All the Young Dudes  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of the word "boogaloo" at the target article. This lyric is not discussed. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 20:29, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:36, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I don't care what people say: rock 'n' roll is here to stay → Rock and Roll Is Here to Stay  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of anything relating to "I don't care what people say". Nobody would type this, place a colon, and then remove the "a" and "d" and type 'n' instead of and. While people might say "rock n roll", nowhere in the article is this abbreviation used. Coupled with the first half, this phrase is not discussed at the target article. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 20:28, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:36, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I've been locked inside your heart-shaped box for weeks → Heart-Shaped Box  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of the word "locked" at the target article, and the mention of "weeks" is not in the context of the lyric. People looking for this subject will be misled, as it's not a lyric we cover at the target article. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 19:00, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete as undiscussed, and look into whether or not that counts as a [HeartShapedObject] for the purposes of becoming a big shot cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 17:35, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:37, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I've been through the desert on a horse with no name, it felt good to be out of the rain → A Horse with No Name  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of rain at the target article, totally implausible to type this entire thing when it contains the song name in question. With no material about this lyric at the target article, this is a confusing redirect which misleads readers who think we cover this subject when we do not. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 18:58, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:37, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I wrote it on the Starter cap → Stan (song)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of a "starter cap" at the target article. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:58, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Relatively minor lyric in the song. Unlikely search term. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:23, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:37, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Two to the one from the one to the three → Shake That  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

You reposted this redirect on the wrong Wikipedia (not mentioned). Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete per "those aren't even the right lyrics, come on!!" cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 13:14, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:37, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Don't you wanna grow up to be just like me → Role Model (song)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of this lyric at the target article. It is much more plausible for readers to be using the song name as a search term to reach this, or investigating elsewhere to find out what song this comes from, in order to answer the FAQ about the song & lyric combo, which Wikipedia is not a FAQ. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:37, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Check baby check baby one two three four → Rump Shaker (song)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of "check baby" at the target page; this lyric isn't mentioned, and I don't foresee people using a countdown as a search term to reach the page about the target song. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:46, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:38, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Ass so fat that you could see it from the front → Ms. Fat Booty  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of this lyric at the target article. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:44, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:38, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I take seven kids from Columbine, stand 'em all in line, add an AK-47, a revolver, a nine → The Marshall Mathers LP  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The Columbine controversy is mentioned, with a section discussing the lyric. However, this is not the lyric. The lyric says "AK-47, a revolver, and a .9", and starts with "I'll take" instead of "I take". That said, there is no mention of AK-47s or revolvers at the target article, either, so this title is spelled out well beyond what is covered and listed at the target. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:43, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:38, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Dr. Dre's dead, he's locked in my basement → The Real Slim Shady  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There's no mention of a basement at the target article; people using this particularly lyric will be disappointed to find no material related to the content of their lyrical search term. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:35, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Relatively unimportant lyric in the song. Unlikely search term. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 13:49, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 07:53, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Guess who's back, back again → Without Me (Eminem song)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Does not appear at the target article. Incidentally, this is also a lyric for Houdini, but mentioned at neither article. This isn't a helpful search term for people looking for Eminem topics, as they'd either search the song names, or search his. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:34, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Redirects from sufficiently well-known song lyrics can be useful even if the lyric in question is not mentioned in the article. This particular lyric is part of the intro to one of Eminem's best-known singles, making it reasonably likely that it's well-known enough to be a useful redirect. I don't personally think the reoccurrence in Houdini is likely to cause substantial confusion; the lyric was likely added to Houdini in order to deliberately reference its previous use in Without Me, which would further suggest that the lyric is recognizable both on its own terms and as something associated with the destination. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 13:45, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per above. -1ctinus📝🗨 15:15, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:38, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I said a hip, hop, the hippie the hippie to the hip hop, and you don't stop → Rapper's Delight  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This is not the lyric of the song, it goes "to the hip-hip-hop and you don't stop". But even so, this is not a likely method of reaching this title. People who want to find the song that goes like this, can try a search engine built for such. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:31, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:38, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Hey girls, hey boys, superstar DJs, here we go! → The Roof Is on Fire  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of superstar DJs at the target article. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:21, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ^Complex/_Rational 19:20, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire, we don't need no water, let the motherfucker burn! Burn, motherfucker, burn! → The Roof Is on Fire  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Implausible to use the full length of the chorus to reach the article for the song, when this can be achieved by typing "the roof is on fire". Whether or not the article is known for its song, we don't make these redirects unless there is relevant, sourced and structured content at the target page, else people using this search term will be confused where the content is related to their search. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:19, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BURN- BURN TO THE GROUND- BURN TO TH- BURN per nom, and potentially daftify as well cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 23:39, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:39, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Death Row's in tha muthaphukkin house → Fuck wit Dre Day (And Everybody's Celebratin')  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not listed in the target article, and definitely not at this spelling (is missing a "c", apparently?) Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:13, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete per "the title already has a fuck word, you don't need to spell it differently to look cool". unsure on whether this would actually count as a tyop, but it's implausible and undiscussed nonetheless cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 17:40, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. wbm1058 (talk) 15:04, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Thibault Perissat → Peter Park (poker player)#Outright  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not a likely needed redirect Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 17:33, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Looks like the article it's pointing to is about to get deleted for non-notability, and this name within that article is even less notable than that, so... Fieari (talk) 05:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep If the main target (within the redirect) gets merged into another article there should be a, more logical, redirect to that instead. PsychoticIncall (talk) 15:39, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Just thought I'd mention that the target article, Peter Park (poker player), is at AFD right now. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:28, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep without prejudice pending the outcome of the AfD. If the article is deleted this will be eligible for G8 speedy deletion, if it isn't then keep, redirect (and where to) or merge (and what is merged to where) will each have different implications for what the best thing to do with this redirect is so there's no point in discussing it until we know. Thryduulf (talk) 00:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: The AfD closed as redirect to 2024 World Series of Poker. C F A 💬 20:18, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete(?): he's mentioned on 2024 World Series of Poker, but that doesn't look useful enough for a redirect to me. Better to just let people find that one via the search engine? -- asilvering (talk) 03:18, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per asilvering. Legoktm (talk) 01:02, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. (non-admin closure) Cremastra (talk) 20:19, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• EYS → Eys  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not a plausible target. One meaning of this initialism seems to be Eu Yan Sang, though there are likely others. 1234qwer1234qwer4 13:03, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Disambig (drafted), in addition to the town and the company there is an airport with this IATA code. EYS also seems to refer to a type of explosion-proof electrical conduit (I think) but Wikipedia doesn't seem to have any relevant content I can find. Thryduulf (talk) 13:16, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Disambig as suggested by Thryduulf. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:53, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• The great edit war → Caesar salad  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The page it redirects to has no mention of any edit war. Probably a reference to some edit war on the page, but I don't think that warrants a redirect, and there's been many other big edit wars anyways. Gaismagorm (talk) 11:40, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, there's a mainspace List of edit wars on Wikipedia but none of them is singled out as "the great" one (and Caesar salad is not listed). Belbury (talk) 11:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. There is an entry at Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars#Caesar salad but it isn't described as "great" there either (the only edit war at WP:LAME noted as being "great" is Wikipedia:April Fools/April Fools' Day 2020/The Great April Fools' Day Edit War of 2020), but Wikipedia:Great Edit War does exist documenting the dispute over the salad's national origin. None of those pages should be the target of a redirect from mainspace. Thryduulf (talk) 13:25, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as implausible and confusing. 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete The context here is basically some YouTuber making hay out the entry at WP:LAME, when it hasn't really been an "edit war" at all, it has been vandals inserting garbage and getting reverted. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 21:39, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was move to FuBL 2 and retarget to Luftwaffe radio equipment of World War II. wbm1058 (talk) 15:47, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• FuBl 2 → Instrument landing system  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target. Is this referring to the differently capitalised "FuBL 2" at Luftwaffe_radio_equipment_of_World_War_II#Navigation_and_direction_finding? 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:15, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Move to FuBL 2 or Delete. Jay 💬 11:57, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• @1234qwer1234qwer4 and Jay: could you pick one option to implement? Legoktm (talk) 01:03, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  No issues with moving it to the properly capitalised title for me. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:04, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Move to FuBL 2 and retarget to Luftwaffe_radio_equipment_of_World_War_II#Navigation_and_direction_finding is sensible. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 01:39, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Dutch exonyms#United Kingdom. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 07:49, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Verenigd Koninkrijk → United Kingdom  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RLANG – Dutch name for the United Kingdom. Cremastra (talk) 17:25, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Dutch exonyms#United Kingdom where it's mentioned. -- Tavix ^(talk) 18:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. --Un assiolo (talk) 16:01, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Do not keep per everyone who has participate thus far in this discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 20:07, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget per Tavix, who voted keep in the previous discussions of 2015, 2017 and 2020. but has found a better target, and hopefully an end to the renominations. Jay 💬 13:56, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Retarget per Tavix and Jay. It's mentioned at that target and its plausibility as a search term has not changed since it was last discussed. Thryduulf (talk) 13:27, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Dutch exonyms#United Kingdom per the above. A7V2 (talk) 07:29, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. It has been 14 days since the last input to this discussion, and two relists did not elicit new opinions. It appears the fate of the redirects is linked to the yet uncreated circumflex below. For now, refining the redirects to the newly created section #circumflex_below, as an improved target. Jay 💬 14:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Ḙ → Circumflex  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Ṷ → Circumflex  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

These were nominated in 2010 as part of a WP:TRAINWRECKy nomination already, but they are not mentioned at the target, which barely talks about a circumflex below (note that this is currently a red link) at all. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:32, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retain The solution surely is to add content about 'circumflex below' to the circumflex article. This is a credible redirect, though I haven't found a citation for it. I came across a suggestion that 'circumflex below' is used in IPA, perhaps Nardog can advise? --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 22:13, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Not that I know of, currently or historically. The inverted breve below and the caron below are used, but not the circumflex below. Nardog (talk) 01:05, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Nardog:, the Unicode character index (for the combining diacritic) reads U+032D ◌̭ COMBINING CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT BELOW • Americanist: fronted articulation. Perhaps that was the concept? (I'm 50 fathoms out of my depth here, so apologies in advance if this is a stupid question.) --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 18:24, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  There is some information on the usage at fr:Accent circonflexe souscrit. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:06, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The Uralic Phonetic Alphabet is not the same as Americanist phonetic notation. Nardog (talk) 01:44, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  That usage is mentioned in Americanist phonetic notation#Common alternate symbols. Nardog (talk) 01:43, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Unless Ḙ is strongly associated with one language, I recommend giving it the same fate as "Circumflex below" (currently a red link). Assuming this is the case, where should "Circumflex below" redirect? Most likely to one of the following: Circumflex#Unicode, Circumflex#Circumflex_below (a new, more specific section), or Combining character (a more general article). Jruderman (talk) 01:10, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Definitely Circumflex#Circumflex below, as per Dot (diacritic) (which has #Overdot, #Underdot and #Sidedot). The principle is clear, the practical issue is the need for someone who knows the first thing about the topic (rules me out) to write a couple of sentences. The article should have that section. It is certainly mentioned at Uralic Phonetic Alphabet#Modifiers, so would it be enough to say that The circumflex below is a notation used by the Uralic Phonetic Alphabet to indicate a raised variant of a vowel?

  I don't see it anywhere at Americanist phonetic notation but specifically not at Americanist phonetic notation#Common alternate symbols. Is it a Unicode Consortium error? [see https://www.unicode.org/charts/nameslist/n_0300.html ]). 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 16:53, 25 August 2024 (UTC) revised 17:03, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• We should add Ṱ · Ḽ · Ḓ · Ṋ to the RfD, right? Jruderman (talk) 01:17, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Wrong. These are mentioned at Circumflex#Diacritic_on_consonants, and the nomination does not apply to them. 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:42, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Link to previous RfD (2010) — Jruderman (talk) 01:21, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Succotash#In popular culture. wbm1058 (talk) 16:43, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Sufferin' succotash → Sylvester the Cat  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Suffering succotash → Sylvester the Cat  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

A catchphrase not mentioned at the target article. People interested in reading about this character would be more likely to search for the character. There is no content about this phrase here, and Wikipedia is not a search engine for "who said this line". Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep [Changed to retarget below]: What's the problem and what's your suggestion? I don't see a problem here, and "who said this line" is a helpful service. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:06, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The problem is as described above (i.e. catchphrases not mentioned at target articles are problematic and misleading due to inherent lack of context and confusion caused for readers). My suggestion is to delete, aligning with past precedents that: "phrase, lyric, and quote redirects that point to articles where they are not mentioned are misleading and cause confusion for readers"; such was the result for a sizeable set of RfDs nominated early this year: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 12#It's not personal. It's strictly business. In this situation, there is currently no mention of any "suffering" being undergone by anyone, much less the variation of "sufferin'" used as a search term dropping the "g". "Succotash" is also not mentioned nor alluded to in the article at this time. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 18:58, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I guess your italics indicate a quote from somewhere, and there must've been some prior discussion of this issue that I'm not familiar with. I thought the threshold for a redirect was lower than it would be for a DAB (i.e., WP:DABMENTION). In my personal experience, people sometimes remember a catchphrase but can't remember the name of the person who said it or what show it was in, and just need a little reminder. "To the Moon, Alice!" —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:18, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Apologies for the confusion; the italics was a retelling of my nomination statement, which in turn summarizes some past discussions about unmentioned "r from catchphrases" and "r from lyrics".

  I fully agree that a tool for searching a catchphrase in order to find the source is a great function, but it more suitable for open-ended search engines such as Google or Youtube which aggregate differently. Doing so on Wikipedia would only work for an exact title match of existing content, and nothing will appear in the built-in search engine for those without mentions in the article. To the Moon, Alice! is an example of a suitable r from catchphrase, as it's a phrase that receives a mention in the plot section as well as allusions in the legacy section (that is if this quote is a version of "bang zoom straight to the moon", which is the aspect discussed and referred to here). Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 19:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  To push back on that a little, just because Google (or the Youtube site it operates) might usually do a better job of finding a subject doesn't mean a search string is not worth trying to have at all. Wikipedia is less spammy (among other considerations), and its search box sometimes leads to what you're looking for if no one deletes the redirect at (or similar to) the string you type. "Sufferin' succotash" is an extremely famous phrase for this character, and is only two words, so it wouldn't have a lot of variation in what people would type to look for it. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:16, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ​Questions: Would this nomination include suffering succotash? Would a soft redirect of both to wikt:suffering succotash work? —  AjaxSmack  20:41, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Indeed that's basically the same. I had forgotten that Daffy Duck also says it. Wiktionary seems to explain it pretty well, although I've never encountered the "suffering savior" assertion before. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:49, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Retarget to Broadcast Standards and Practices#Press Your Luck, which does a good job of explaining this phrase and who said it, and discusses a notable episode in its history. (This assumes that content is correct and will stay there – the discussion there is unsourced and not clearly relevant to Broadcast Standards and Practices.) BTW, the phrase is also mentioned in Yankee Dood It. The redirect shouldn't be deleted. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 21:14, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete to favour search results. Its mention as an example in a game show would not be an appropriate target. Note that Succotash#In popular culture also could have been a target. In fact, the redirect was created in 2013 to target that page. Also I'm bundling suffering succotash per AjaxSmack. Jay 💬 09:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Retarget back to Succotash#In popular culture, which seems to be the best target-- it mentions both Daffy and Sylvester's usage of the phrase, as well as the time Roman Reigns said it in WWE Smackdown, and also, the reader can scroll up and find out what the sweet heck succotash even is. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 06:24, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Israel and Palestine. The new disambiguation page seems to be the most popular, and the argument that this is a plausible search term is compelling. (non-admin closure) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 05:28, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Palestine Israel → Israeli–Palestinian conflict  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Israel Palestine → Israeli–Palestinian conflict  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Classic WP:XY. Delete. — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 04:18, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - I don't know that WP:XY fits here. Someone typing both Israel and Palestine into the search box, in whichever order, is almost certainly looking for information on the conflict. I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, but this seems like the appropriate target to me. Fieari (talk) 06:51, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Idk what it even means? Do we have any actual data on how many people use that as a search term? And then, if they do, where they go afterwards? Selfstudier (talk) 09:54, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Both were created too recently to have truly reliable usage figures, but they got 10 and 17 hits between creation on 22nd August and yesterday, which suggests that they are plausible search terms (but note that almost all redirects get above typical views in the first circa 2-4 days after creation (I guess due to new page patrolers and similar) and significantly more than typical views during and just after being listed at RfD). Everybody who views a redirect goes to the redirect target, I don't think that where they go after that is tracked and all such data that does exist is only released for large volumes of people and (iirc) aggregated by complete calendar month (all for privacy reasons) so wouldn't be useful here. Thryduulf (talk) 11:32, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Do the same as with #Palestine and Israel. I can't see any reason why people would be expecting different things with or without the "and". Thryduulf (talk) 11:32, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I disagree with that; the inclusion/exclusion of "and" makes all the difference. Steel1943 (talk) 18:26, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  For reference, the linked discussion is at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 3#Palestine and Israel and was closed as "disambiguate". Thryduulf (talk) 23:34, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]