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I'm a botanist/organismal biologist. I'm particularly interested in edible plants, and all the complications that arise with regards to both common names and scientific names for those. I fix various errors or unfortunate phrasings on Wikipedia (mostly in plant related articles) when I come across them, and try to contribute to articles related to my hobbies. Internet identities aren't necessarily unique or centralized; I am not the same person as the Twitter user who goes by Plantdrew.

I think my favorite article at present is Urena lobata. I'm not quite sure what to make of it. Is it a profound statement about inclusionism/deletionism? Commentary on the (non)-value of stubs? Is it perhaps the most meta article on Wikipedia?

Amusing Polbot fail: Spruceanthus theobromae's natural habitat is plantations . It is threatened by habitat loss.

ceb:Mordellistena pallipes is better developed than Mordellistena pallipes, as it includes the range (an area that is inhabited by many English speakers).

Watchlist of talk pages with WikiProject Tree of life banner.

{{R from species to genus}}

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User scripts: User:William Avery/taxoboxalyzer User:Jts1882/taxonomybrowser.js User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/SpeciesHelper

{{Format species list}} {{Make cite iucn}}

{{R avoided double redirect}}, {{NASTRO comment}}

Taxobox cleanup

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  • Ongoing parameter cleanup in automatic taxoboxes; binomial_authority, spaced parameters (image caption, fossil range, range map,...), rank parameters (regnum, familia), deprecated parameters (_width for various images), image prefixes (File:, Image:, [[, http) (most show up in monthly TDER, but I like to check the most frequent ~weekly)
  • Correct/remove blatantly invalid parameters (rely on TDER, although deletion error "uthority" shows up pretty regularly)
  • Subgenus/oldest fossil standardize to parent/fossil_range
  • Add authorities to species (there's ~100 hard cases and some monthly churn via TDER)
  • Add authorities to families and genera; have yet to work on systematically
  • Add images; not something I reliably check
  • Type species authorities with parentheses; check
  • Unlink subdivision_ranks
  • Split parameters where applicable; synonyms/synonyms_ref, subdivision_ranks+subdivision/subdivision_ref, status/status_ref, type/type_authority (Jts1882 gave some regex for splitting out references)
  • Parameter order; displayed order is: name/fossil_range/image/status/(display_parents)|grandparent_authority/taxon/authority/subdivision/range_map/synonyms/
  • "name = ''" is a junk parameter; have yet to work on it
  • unnecessary/redundant markup in authority; <small>, {{ (other parameters also need checking)

Odd parameters in manual taxoboxes

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Rants

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I guess I could setup my institutional credentials on my home computer to be able to access more paywalled articles, but I edit most at home, and being forced to bypass paywalls helps with awareness of FUTON bias (I've confused myself. Paywells aren't FUTON.) Citations behind a paywall are not prohibited on Wikipedia, but aren't great for most readers.

Fairly urgent to-do:point out the dab terms in Mycetophilinae to Estopedist1; (insect), (genus), (fly) and mostly (gnat). Must check incoming links on moving dab term in order to standardize other dab terms (especially for red links that aren't linked from any dab page).

[1] Youtube as a source. Doesn't seem appropriate (with the exception of articles about a viral Youtube video). Lots of taxa with crap external links from circa 2007. Youtube, .com, angelfire/geocitie, databases included in taxonbar. Wikipedia is not the place for SEO juice, but there are a lot of articles on niche topics with garbage links that have persisted for years.

Bot that fixes double redirects may be doing more harm than good? (inspired by vinegar eel). Redirects left after a moving may require changes in rcats. Ill-advised merges that are reverted often end up with redirects misdirected. Sometimes the bot edit conflicts with me, which isn't helpful to me (although seems to be operating slower these days). Has a cleanup category for double redirects been tried? No need for bot if editors can keep up with it. Are double redirects necessarily even a problem that needs to be fixed in 2021?

Redirects are "broken" (not really) when they are inconsistent titles. Alternative capitalization, non-standard dab terms. Standardizing disambiguation is probably the heart of FOOTIE insistence on piping team names (which are usually ambiguous). Plantdrew (talk) 02:59, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

WP:PROD. Why is there not a similar process for redirects? There are more garbage redirects than articles. If I was an admin (and if admins were still able to rampantly exercise personal discretion in deleting), there's a lot I would nuke outright, but I'm not going to bother taking to the RFD process. {{Rsa}} populates a category of redirects that are usually ambiguous.

{{Wikinews}} should never be used to link to a single Wikinews article (perhaps appropriate to link to a Wikinews category). They're almost all junk and mostly date back to pre-2007. I removed from bigfoot (a sighting was a hoax, what a surprise), zander (some swimmers got bit by a fish) and Utahraptor (a $2500 replica was stolen and recovered). Most Wikinews articles based on reporting by actual journalists. Neanderthal does have a decent interview by a Wikinews editor (but it's getting less recent). wikinews:Wikinews attends Christy Carlson Romano concert Sesame Place apparently had a Wikinews editor give a concert ticket to a photographer, with no results.

EOL reliabilit; EOL calls Callitriche truncata a tree (and so did Wikipedia)

FFS Talk:Ivory_Coast#Requested_move_26_January_2022; apparently closed as a ~~vote with basically non of the opposes doing anything other than bleating COMMONNAME (OK, some sources were provided that show news organization will still publish articles that call it Ivory Coast, but supporters had corpus analyses). The west Africa country probably shows up in the news more than FYROM and Swaziland; are there any other country title wheres en.wiki is so resolute in opposing a form of the official name? COMMONNAME needs evidence; it's not just a matter of linking a Wikpedia shortcut to "support" your preference (for an unecyclopedic title). Oops, according to a titling superstar at Talk:Schutzstaffel#Requested_move_28_March_2022, Wikipedia doesn't use encyclopedic titles. I'm not sure why feces isn't titled poop.

POWO has a problem with omitting original authorities and citing combing authorities without parentheses. I'm finding this with Asteraceae (most obviously in monotypic genera). Probably some bug with prior important from GCD. Note newly found examples below: 

Inspired by. Wikipedia has too many articles. The editor base doesn't keep up with the increase in articles. Wikipedia has a bunch of useless processes (stub sorting, short descriptions) that soak up editor efforts. I consider species to be notable, but species articles aren't getting expanded. Redirecting existing species articles would be yet another sponge of editor efforts

almost one year from RFC before mass creation was added to policy. WP:Popularculture had a link to RFC for a minute in 2018, but doesn't now. Every RFC at VPP ought to result in immediate updates to policy, and that should link back to the RFC. (if a discussion take place at VPP, does that now make a guideline a policy).

MASSCREATE requests:

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Syagrus atricolor; SPECIESOUTCOMES fail. probably created by Alextejthompson (cf. Syagrus cinerascens), with "observed by" in the initial version. Over about a week in late July/early August 2016, Alextejthompson made a large number of terrible insect articles. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mordella auropubescens more recent delete close, original publication was found. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Baylisascaris shroederi.

Why we don't create redirects from species to genera: Monamphiura isn't accepted and has a bunch of redirects from species (with no rcats). Mess for TOL editors to clean up (by creating articles or tagging with {{R avoided double redirect}}. Deletionist/"curationist"/"mergist" treatment of species that sanctions creating new redirects is not helpful

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Plants/Archive72#User:Starzoner_blocked_indef: "I agree that creating sub-stubs is not productive, unless there's a clear intention to come back later and work on them. But there doesn't seem to be a consensus to stop this activity, so attempting to persuade seems to be all we can do"-Peter coxhead

Chromacris speciosa; wow at # of refs in lede. Is that how species need to establish notability?

I'd like join your rant about this one – unfortunately although it's extreme, there are others like it. What is the point of putting any refs immediately after a taxon name? They can't support anything about the taxon, just the existence of the name. Sigh... Peter coxhead (talk) 14:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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