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Achilles

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UK | TD | Tier VI
Battle Tier
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930,000  Credits Cost
680144 HP Hit Points
29.57/29.8213.22/32.5 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander
  2. Gunner
  3. Driver
  4. Radio Operator
  5. Loader
Mobility
410500 hp Engine Power
48/13 km/h Speed Limit
3234 deg/s Traverse
13.8737.82 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
YesYes Pivot
Armor
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110/110/175150/150/190 HP Damage
101/117/38171/239/38 mm Penetration



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18.75 r/m 
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Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 3.2 s
50% Crew: 3.96 s
75% Crew: 3.46 s
100% Crew: 3.07 s
Rammer: 2.76 s
Vents: 3 s
Both: 2.7 s
Both and BiA: 2.64 s
Both and Max Crew %: 2.53 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.



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13.64 r/m 
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Standard Gun

Reload Times
Nominal: 4.4 s
50% Crew: 5.45 s
75% Crew: 4.76 s
100% Crew: 4.22 s
Rammer: 3.8 s
Vents: 4.13 s
Both: 3.71 s
Both and BiA: 3.63 s
Both and Max Crew %: 3.48 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.
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2062.5
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (110 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2062.5
50% Crew: 1665.4
75% Crew: 1906.3
100% Crew: 2150.5
100% Crew
Vents: 2198.9
Rammer: 2389.2
Both: 2443.1
Both and BiA: 2497
Both and Max Crew %: 2605.9

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2172.5
50% Crew: 1775.4
75% Crew: 2016.3
100% Crew: 2260.5
100% Crew
Rammer: 2499.2
Vents: 2308.9
Both: 2553.1
Both and BiA: 2607
Both and Max Crew %: 2715.9

See here, here, or here for more information.
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (110 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2062.5
50% Crew: 1665.4
75% Crew: 1906.3
100% Crew: 2150.5
100% Crew
Vents: 2198.9
Rammer: 2389.2
Both: 2443.1
Both and BiA: 2497
Both and Max Crew %: 2605.9

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2172.5
50% Crew: 1775.4
75% Crew: 2016.3
100% Crew: 2260.5
100% Crew
Rammer: 2499.2
Vents: 2308.9
Both: 2553.1
Both and BiA: 2607
Both and Max Crew %: 2715.9

See here, here, or here for more information.
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (175 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 3281.25
50% Crew: 2649.5
75% Crew: 3032.75
100% Crew: 3421.25
100% Crew
Vents: 3498.25
Rammer: 3801
Both: 3886.75
Both and BiA: 3972.5
Both and Max Crew %: 4145.75

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 3456.25
50% Crew: 2824.5
75% Crew: 3207.75
100% Crew: 3596.25
100% Crew
Rammer: 3976
Vents: 3673.25
Both: 4061.75
Both and BiA: 4147.5
Both and Max Crew %: 4320.75

See here, here, or here for more information.






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2046
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (150 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2046
50% Crew: 1651.5
75% Crew: 1891.5
100% Crew: 2134.5
100% Crew
Vents: 2182.5
Rammer: 2371.5
Both: 2425.5
Both and BiA: 2479.5
Both and Max Crew %: 2586

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2196
50% Crew: 1801.5
75% Crew: 2041.5
100% Crew: 2284.5
100% Crew
Rammer: 2521.5
Vents: 2332.5
Both: 2575.5
Both and BiA: 2629.5
Both and Max Crew %: 2736

See here, here, or here for more information.
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (150 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2046
50% Crew: 1651.5
75% Crew: 1891.5
100% Crew: 2134.5
100% Crew
Vents: 2182.5
Rammer: 2371.5
Both: 2425.5
Both and BiA: 2479.5
Both and Max Crew %: 2586

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2196
50% Crew: 1801.5
75% Crew: 2041.5
100% Crew: 2284.5
100% Crew
Rammer: 2521.5
Vents: 2332.5
Both: 2575.5
Both and BiA: 2629.5
Both and Max Crew %: 2736

See here, here, or here for more information.
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Standard Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (190 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 2591.6
50% Crew: 2091.9
75% Crew: 2395.9
100% Crew: 2703.7
100% Crew
Vents: 2764.5
Rammer: 3003.9
Both: 3072.3
Both and BiA: 3140.7
Both and Max Crew %: 3275.6

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2781.6
50% Crew: 2281.9
75% Crew: 2585.9
100% Crew: 2893.7
100% Crew
Rammer: 3193.9
Vents: 2954.5
Both: 3262.3
Both and BiA: 3330.7
Both and Max Crew %: 3465.6

See here, here, or here for more information.
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0.33 m 
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With 50% Crew: 0.409 m
With 75% Crew: 0.357 m
With 100% Crew: 0.316 m
With BiA: 0.309 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.303 m
Maximum possible: 0.29 m

For more details, see Crew


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0.32 m 
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With 50% Crew: 0.396 m
With 75% Crew: 0.346 m
With 100% Crew: 0.307 m
With BiA: 0.3 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.294 m
Maximum possible: 0.281 m

For more details, see Crew
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2.5 s 
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With 50% Crew: 3.097 s
With 75% Crew: 2.704 s
With 100% Crew: 2.397 s
With GLD: 2.179 s
With BiA: 2.344 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.293 s
With both and GLD: 2.085 s
Maximum possible: 1.998 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment


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1.9 s 
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With 50% Crew: 2.354 s
With 75% Crew: 2.055 s
With 100% Crew: 1.822 s
With GLD: 1.656 s
With BiA: 1.782 s
With BiA and Vents: 1.743 s
With both and GLD: 1.584 s
Maximum possible: 1.519 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
 Aim time
1416 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed
360° Gun Arc
-10°/+30°-5°/+20° Elevation Arc
5460 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
1520 % Chance of Fire






370 m 
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With 50% Crew: 290.7 m
With 75% Crew: 330.4 m
With 100% Crew: 370 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 388.7 m
With Coated Optics: 407 m
With Binocular Telescope: 462.5 m
Maximum possible: 529.7 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment






370 m 
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With 50% Crew: 290.7 m
With 75% Crew: 330.4 m
With 100% Crew: 370 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 388.7 m
With Coated Optics: 407 m
With Binocular Telescope: 462.5 m
Maximum possible: 529.7 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
 View Range


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400 m 
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With 50% Crew: 322.9 m
With 75% Crew: 369.8 m
With 100% Crew: 417.2 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 480 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 440 m
Maximum possible: 600.5 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment


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550 m 
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With 50% Crew: 444 m
With 75% Crew: 508.5 m
With 100% Crew: 573.6 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 660 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 605 m
Maximum possible: 825.7 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
 Signal Range
Values are Stock - click for Top
AT 2
Achilles
Challenger


VI

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930000

The Achilles is a British tier 6 tank destroyer.

The Achilles was a British variant of the American M10 GMC tank destroyer. Standard M10 gun was replaced by a more powerful British anti-tank Ordnance Quick-Firing 17-pounder gun. That allowed the tank destroyer to effectively battle against the German vehicles. In 1944 the re-equipping of the tank destroyer was launched, with a total of 1,100 vehicles re-equipped by the end of the war.

The Achilles leads to the Challenger.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm) 		Damage
(HP) 		Rate of fire
(rounds/minute) 		Dispersion
(m/100m) 		Aiming time
(s) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
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VII OQF 17-pdr AT Gun Mk. VII 171/239/38 150/150/190 13.64 0.32 1.9 826 65000
V 3-inch AT Gun M7 101/117/38 110/110/175 18.75 0.33 2.3 903 33500
VI OQF 17-pdr AT Gun Mk. V 143/171/38 150/150/190 12.5 0.35 2.1 826 56000

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp) 		Chance of Fire on Impact
(%) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

V General Motors 6046 410 15 2318 13500
V Ford GAA 500 20 708 13910

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т) 		Traverse Speed
(gr/sec) 		Rmin Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

V Achilles I 29.82 32 0 7000 8400
VI Achilles IIC 32.5 34 0 7000 16500

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(m) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

VII WS No. 19 Mk. II 450 40 21000
VI WS No. 19 Mk. I 400 40 15000
VIII WS No. 19 Mk. III 550 40 22000

Compatible Equipment

Low Noise Exhaust System Class 2 Medium Spall Liner Camouflage Net Class 2 Coated Optics Class 2 Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Improved Configuration Innovative Loading System Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Class 2 Improved Hardening Class 2 Additional Grousers Class 2 Modified Configuration Class 2 Improved Rotation Mechanism Class 2 Improved Aiming Class 2 Binocular Telescope Class 2 Gun Rammer Class 2 Turbocharger Class 2 

Compatible Consumables

Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters Manual Fire Extinguisher Pre-Battle Maintenance Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Orderly Ammo Rack Focus on Target Pudding and Tea Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Good DPM, penetration, and shell velocity
  • Superb accuracy
  • Decent mobility
  • Good view range


Cons:


  • Slow turret traverse
  • Low alpha damage
  • Poor gun depression with the top gun despite the open turret
  • Thin armor and large target
  • Stock grind is awful


Performance

The Achilles plays similarly to an uptiered M10 Wolverine. Absolutely dreadful when stock, you will have problems penetrating even certain medium tanks, let alone heavy tanks - the good gun depression does not help much, either. Unless your opponent's team is full of lightly armoured tanks, you will struggle to make any impact in a match - use your mobility and view range to take a more passive scouting role, and pounce on injured tanks to finish them off or take opportunistic shots when possible.

However, with the 17-pounder you have a fighting chance to penetrate all but the heaviest tier 8 tanks, despite the inferior gun depression. Always be aware that gun depression is bad in this tank. Although it has high DPM, the low alpha means that you will have to expose your tank for long periods of time to get the gun working. Because of its horrible armor, most hits you receive will penetrate you, and artillery is especially deadly. With an accuracy of 0.33 and an aim time of 1.9 sec, the gun is good at delivering damage at range, which will reduce your chances of being hit, allowing you to make use of your DPM. Prepare to receive damage to multiple modules and crew members (usually involving gunnery) if you play this tank. Don't allow heavy guns to target your turret!

The positives are, the Achilles has some mobility, far more than Britain's AT-line tanks, so it isn't difficult to either get into position, relocate or escape if necessary. (Bear in mind that British tanks typically lack horsepower, acceleration and top speed compared to every other nation, so don't leave it too late or you may be unable to get away.) The gun is actually rather good when fully aimed and does not need to carry 50% APCR ammunition. Turret rotation is slow, but at least it has a turret; stay away from the enemy, this tank has no business brawling and its gun won't keep up with fast-moving tanks at close range.

If you are looking for tanks to Master, the bar for Mastering the Achilles is rather low, as it is not easy to get the best from it. It's not the worst choice for a tank destroyer and is less commonly seen than the Hellcat, making it a likeable and quirky choice which, when properly equipped and with a skilled player, is competitive enough.


Early Research

  • Cross-branch research: the OQF 17-pdr AT Gun Mk. VII carries over from the AT 8 (or the Archer), but the upgraded turret is required to mount it. The Ford GAA engine carries over from the AT 7.
  • The WS No. 19 Mk. III radio carries over from the AT 2 and should be installed immediately.
  • First, research the OQF 17-pdr AT Gun Mk. V for a much-needed penetration boost.
  • Next, research the Ford GAA engine for a massive boost to mobility.
  • Then, research the Achilles Duck Bill turret and the OQF 17-pdr AT Gun Mk. VII.
  • Finally, research the Achilles IIC suspension.


Suggested Equipment


Medium-Caliber Tank Gun Rammer Binocular Telescope Camouflage Net 


Gallery

Historical Info

Among the multitude of military vehicles supplied to Britain by the United States in World War 2 were around 1,600 M10 tank destroyers, including mid-production M10 I and late-production M10 II variants. They could be told apart by the shape of the counterweight on the turret rear: wedge-shaped on the I, and enlarged on the II. Unfortunately, initial encounters with heavyweight German opponents like the Tiger I and Panther showed shortcomings in the power of the 3-inch (76.2 mm) gun; with a counter-invasion of Europe looming, it was decided to fit the M10 with the British 17 pounder gun instead. The refitting process began in Spring 1944 and the majority of the roughly 1,000 converted were M10 IIs. These were renamed M10 IIC, with the C signifying the 17 pounder. Fitting the gun required a counterweight behind its muzzle brake, and the ammunition storage area was altered to take the bigger shells.


With the power to tear through Tiger I and Panther front armor from 1km, the M10 IIC quickly earned the trust of anti-tank units such as those of the 21st Army Group, and also on the Italian front. One prominent example of its ability was provided by the M10 IIC Battery of the 62nd Anti-Tank Regiment, which shook off a counter from Panthers and Panzer IVs to destroy 13 German tanks in fighting around Caen in the aftermath of the July 1944 Normandy landings. The M10 IIC was also deployed by Canadian and Polish units, and served into the 1950s.


Historical Gallery

Historical Accuracy Errata

The following are consensus errors or inconsistencies which have been identified with the configuration of the vehicle in question and conflict with information available on the public record. The causes for these divergences in the game are normally not disclosed and may be rooted in game balance.

SCC No. 15 Olive Drab paint scheme is missing. This was the base colour on all British AFVs in Europe from April 1944.
  • Allied star recognition marking is missing. This option exists in World of Tanks, but is restricted to only tier 8-10 vehicles.
  • The white-red-white Royal Armoured Corps recognition mark (or flash) was only used until mid-1942. Flashes painted on Achilles were red-white-red.
  • Uses the same 3-inch M7 gun as the French M10 RBFM, yet the penetration and damage values are inconsistent.
  • The Achilles has the same General Motors 6046 diesel engine as the M10 Wolverine. However, their horsepower and weight values are inconsistent. The British equivalent of the engine actually has the historical values.
  • 410 hp represents the diesel engine's gross horsepower. Net horsepower is 375 hp.
  • Actual gun depression is -10 degrees. The -5 degrees come from a removable stop that could be placed on the vehicle.


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