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Premium  AMX 50 Foch (155)

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5  Gold Cost
1850370 HP Hit Points
57.6/59.5617.3/59.56 t Weight Limit
Crew
  1. Commander (Radio Operator)
  2. Gunner
  3. Driver
  4. Loader
Mobility
10001000 hp Engine Power
50/13 km/h Speed Limit
3030 deg/s Traverse
17.3657.8 hp/t Power/Wt Ratio
YesYes Pivot
Armor
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Armament







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1560/6800/1090
 Shell Cost
750/750/1100750/750/1100 HP Damage
293/395/90293/395/90 mm Penetration



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3 r/m 
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Magazine-fed Gun

Burst Length: 1 rounds
Magazine Size: 3 rounds
Cycle Time: 5 s
Magazine Reload Times
Nominal: 50 s
50% Crew: 61.94 s
75% Crew: 54.08 s
100% Crew: 47.94 s
With Vents: 46.88 s
With Vents and BiA: 45.87 s

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3 r/m 
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Magazine-fed Gun

Burst Length: 1 rounds
Magazine Size: 3 rounds
Cycle Time: 5 s
Magazine Reload Times
Nominal: 50 s
50% Crew: 61.94 s
75% Crew: 54.08 s
100% Crew: 47.94 s
With Vents: 46.88 s
With Vents and BiA: 45.87 s

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3142.5
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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (750 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 3142.5
50% Crew: 3090
75% Crew: 3120
100% Crew: 3150
With Vents: 3142.5
With Vents and BiA: 3150

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 3300
50% Crew: 3277.5
75% Crew: 3292.5
100% Crew: 3300
With Vents: 3300
With Vents and BiA: 3300

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (750 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 3142.5
50% Crew: 3090
75% Crew: 3120
100% Crew: 3150
With Vents: 3142.5
With Vents and BiA: 3150

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 3300
50% Crew: 3277.5
75% Crew: 3292.5
100% Crew: 3300
With Vents: 3300
With Vents and BiA: 3300

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (1100 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 4609
50% Crew: 4532
75% Crew: 4576
100% Crew: 4620
With Vents: 4609
With Vents and BiA: 4620

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 4840
50% Crew: 4807
75% Crew: 4829
100% Crew: 4840
With Vents: 4840
With Vents and BiA: 4840

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3142.5
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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 1 (750 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 3142.5
50% Crew: 3090
75% Crew: 3120
100% Crew: 3150
With Vents: 3142.5
With Vents and BiA: 3150

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 3300
50% Crew: 3277.5
75% Crew: 3292.5
100% Crew: 3300
With Vents: 3300
With Vents and BiA: 3300

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 2 (750 Damage):


Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 3142.5
50% Crew: 3090
75% Crew: 3120
100% Crew: 3150
With Vents: 3142.5
With Vents and BiA: 3150

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 3300
50% Crew: 3277.5
75% Crew: 3292.5
100% Crew: 3300
With Vents: 3300
With Vents and BiA: 3300

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Magazine-fed Gun

Using Shell Type 3 (1100 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal: 4609
50% Crew: 4532
75% Crew: 4576
100% Crew: 4620
With Vents: 4609
With Vents and BiA: 4620

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
Loaded-mag DPM: 4840
50% Crew: 4807
75% Crew: 4829
100% Crew: 4840
With Vents: 4840
With Vents and BiA: 4840

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0.36 m 
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With 50% Crew: 0.446 m
With 75% Crew: 0.389 m
With 100% Crew: 0.345 m
With BiA: 0.338 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.33 m
Maximum possible: 0.317 m

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0.36 m 
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With 50% Crew: 0.446 m
With 75% Crew: 0.389 m
With 100% Crew: 0.345 m
With BiA: 0.338 m
With BiA and Vents: 0.33 m
Maximum possible: 0.317 m

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3 s 
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With 50% Crew: 3.716 s
With 75% Crew: 3.245 s
With 100% Crew: 2.877 s
With GLD: 2.615 s
With BiA: 2.813 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.752 s
With both and GLD: 2.502 s
Maximum possible: 2.398 s

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3 s 
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With 50% Crew: 3.716 s
With 75% Crew: 3.245 s
With 100% Crew: 2.877 s
With GLD: 2.615 s
With BiA: 2.813 s
With BiA and Vents: 2.752 s
With both and GLD: 2.502 s
Maximum possible: 2.398 s

For more details, see Crew or Equipment
 Aim time
2626 deg/s Gun Traverse Speed
20° Gun Arc
-6°/+18°-6°/+18° Elevation Arc
3030 rounds Ammo Capacity
General
1515 % Chance of Fire






380 m 
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With 50% Crew: 298.6 m
With 75% Crew: 339.3 m
With 100% Crew: 380 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 399.2 m
With Coated Optics: 418 m
With Binocular Telescope: 475 m
Maximum possible: 544 m

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380 m 
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With 50% Crew: 298.6 m
With 75% Crew: 339.3 m
With 100% Crew: 380 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 399.2 m
With Coated Optics: 418 m
With Binocular Telescope: 475 m
Maximum possible: 544 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
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750 m 
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With 50% Crew: 589.3 m
With 75% Crew: 669.7 m
With 100% Crew: 750 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m
Maximum possible: 1079.2 m

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750 m 
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With 50% Crew: 589.3 m
With 75% Crew: 669.7 m
With 100% Crew: 750 m
With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m
When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m
Maximum possible: 1079.2 m

For more details, see Skills or Equipment
 Signal Range
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AMX 50 Foch (155)

Additional Statistics
(Top Configuration)

Camouflage

  • Stationary: 14%
  • When Moving: 8.6%
  • When Firing: 3.4%


Terrain Resistance

  • On Hard Ground: 1.34
  • On Medium Ground: 1.53
  • On Soft Ground: 2.3


Dispersion Change Values

  • Turret Contribution
  • Rotation: 0.19
  • Shot Recoil: 3.84
  • Suspension Contribution
  • Acceleration: 0.19
  • Turning: 0.19


With 100% Crew

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The AMX 50 Foch (155) is a French tier 10 premium tank destroyer.

In 1952, with the launch of the AMX 50 120 tank project, the French discontinued development of the AMX 50 Foch tank destroyer. A tank destroyer having the same 120-mm gun armament as the tank was thought to be unnecessary. There were attempts to upgrade the main gun to 155 mm, but these efforts were abandoned as France made moves to adopt standardized NATO equipment.

In 9.20 patch, The AMX 50 Foch (155) was replaced by the AMX 50 Foch B as the French tier 10 tank destroyer. Any players who purchased this vehicle before the update received a free Foch B while their Foch 155 received special vehicle status.

It is now the "Derpy" counterpart of the Foch B, with a 155mm gun that offers high alpha damage and penetration, and very powerful HE shells that made this gun comparable with the pre-nerf Type 5 Heavy's infamous derp gun, but with 3-shot autoloader making the Foch 155 capable of mowing down precisely the enemies most needing destruction in order to transform the course of a match.

Saddled with the height, handicapped gun handling, and no protection outside of the frontal arc, the Foch has many weaknesses which can make it incredibly frustrating to play. While difficult to exploit and temperamental in the extreme, the Foch (155) is an absolute game-changer when used with perfect timing.


Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables

Modules

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Guns

Tier Gun Penetration
(mm) 		Damage
(HP) 		Rate of fire
(rounds/minute) 		Dispersion
(m/100m) 		Aiming time
(s) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

X 155 mm AC SA58 293/395/90 750/750/1100 3 0.36 3 5000 375000

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Engines

Tier Engine Engine Power
(hp) 		Chance of Fire on Impact
(%) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

X Saurer 1000F 1000 15 750 110000

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Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit
(т) 		Traverse Speed
(gr/sec) 		Rmin Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

X AMX 50 Foch (155) 59.56 30 0 11000 82500

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Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range
(m) 		Weight
(kg) 		Price
(Credits)

X SCR 619F 750 80 54000

Compatible Equipment

Low Noise Exhaust System Class 1 Heavy Spall Liner Camouflage Net Class 2 Coated Optics Class 1 Experimental Optics Wear-Resistant Gun Laying Drive Improved Configuration Venting System Enhanced Gun Laying Drive Class 1 Improved Hardening Class 1 Additional Grousers Class 1 Modified Configuration Class 1 Improved Rotation Mechanism Class 1 Improved Aiming Class 1 Improved Ventilation Class 1 Binocular Telescope Class 1 Turbocharger Class 1 

Compatible Consumables

Automatic Fire Extinguisher Natural Cover Optical Calibration Aim Tuning Experienced Firefighters Manual Fire Extinguisher Strong Coffee Pre-Battle Maintenance Vent Purge Large First Aid Kit Large Repair Kit Duty Comes First Shell Organizer Focus on Target Increased Focus Small First Aid Kit Small Repair Kit Gearbox Intricacy Steady Hand Combat Course 


Player Opinion

Pros and Cons

Pros:


  • Amazing burst damage of 2250 average damage if all three shots penetrate
  • Excellent penetration with premium (HEAT) ammo
  • Well sloped frontal plate offers reasonable protection at range
  • Good top speed and acceleration
  • Decent viewrange


Cons:


  • Very long magazine and intra-clip reload
  • Fairly poor shell velocity, makes leading some targets and sniping difficult
  • Poor aim time and on the move dispersion
  • Large, poorly armored roof weakspots
  • Very weak side, rear and roof armor


Early Research

Premium tank, none required.


Suggested Equipment


Improved VentilationEnhanced Gun Laying Drive Coated Optics 


External Reviews and Opinions

Gallery

Historical Info

Canon Automoteur AMX 50 Foch

Based on the M 4 chassis in 1950, AMX presented a prototype of a heavy tank destroyer in the form of a 120 mm self-propelled gun, the Canon Automoteur AMX 50 Foch, named after Marshal Ferdinand Foch. It was intended to give long range fire support to the medium/heavy AMX 50 100 mm model. The design had a lot of similarities with German Jagdpanther tank destroyer. It had a long bareled 120 mm gun with a muzzle break attached to a well sloped and heavily armored flat profile vehicle. Remotely controlled anti-aircraft machinegun was placed on the right side of the roof, while commander’s cupola with the range finder was pushed to the left.

Unlike previous post war concepts like the Mle. 1948, several AMX 50 TDs were built, the first in 1950. Field tests were promising, and army started to prepare to adopt AMX 50 Foch in small numbers. When AMX engineers managed to install a 120 mm gun into an oscillating turret of the AMX 50 120 tank, Foch immediately become obsolete and all further development and production were stopped. In order to try to save the project, several proposals which incorporated installation of a much more powerful 155 mm gun were given to the army, but all efforts were abandoned when France made moves to adopt standardized NATO equipment and ammunition.


Historical Gallery

Historical Accuracy Errata

The following are consensus errors or inconsistencies which have been identified with the configuration of the vehicle in question and conflict with information available on the public record. The causes for these divergences in the game are normally not disclosed and may be rooted in game balance.

* The Foch was never designed to hold an autoloader


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Japan IIType 97 Te-Ke • VType 3 Chi-Nu Kai • VIHeavy Tank No. VI • VIIISTA-2
Czechoslovakia VIŠkoda T 40 • VIIŠkoda T 45 • VIIIŠkoda T 27 • VIIIŠkoda T 56 • VIIIShPTK-TVP 100
Sweden IIL-60 • IIILago M38 • VIStrv m/42-57 Alt A.2 • VIIIStrv S1 • VIIIStrv 81 • VIIIPrimo Victoria • VIIIEMIL 1951 • VIIILansen C • VIIIBofors Tornvagn • IXStrv K
Italy VIIIProgetto M35 mod. 46 • VIIIBisonte C45 • VIIISMV CC-64 Vipera • XCarro da Combattimento 45 t
Poland IITKS z n.k.m. 20 mm • VIPudel • VIT-34-85 Rudy • VIII50TP prototyp • VIIICS-52 LIS
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