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Administrators' newsletter – July 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2018).
- Pbsouthwood • TheSandDoctor
- Gogo Dodo
- Andrevan • Doug • EVula • KaisaL • Tony Fox • WilyD
- An RfC about the deletion of drafts closed with a consensus to change the wording of WP:NMFD. Specifically, a draft that has been repeatedly resubmitted and declined at AfC without any substantial improvement may be deleted at MfD if consensus determines that it is unlikely to ever meet the requirements for mainspace and it otherwise meets one of the reasons for deletion outlined in the deletion policy.
- A request for comment closed with a consensus that the {{promising draft}} template cannot be used to indefinitely prevent a WP:G13 speedy deletion nomination.
- Starting on July 9, the WMF Security team, Trust & Safety, and the broader technical community will be seeking input on an upcoming change that will restrict editing of site-wide JavaScript and CSS to a new technical administrators user group. Bureaucrats and stewards will be able to grant this right per a community-defined process. The intention is to reduce the number of accounts who can edit frontend code to those who actually need to, which in turn lessens the risk of malicious code being added that compromises the security and privacy of everyone who accesses Wikipedia. For more information, please review the FAQ.
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PiracyAutomaton
"Gigantic" quotation removed...
You removed my quotation in the lead section from Bohemian Rhapsody (film) recently and I just wondered where you thought the information might better fit in. Since it's a start article, I'd like to help add to it. It was a large quote, but I felt it was difficult to paraphrase. Thanks for any suggestions you have.
Mjr524 (talk) 15:53, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Mjr524: generally, the lead section summarizes what's already in the body. New information should be added to an appropriate section, and then it can be briefly summarized in the lead. For descriptions of how the film was made, the best place would usually be the production section. It's usually best to try to paraphrase long quotations (see WP:COPYQUOTE), but if you find it difficult, it's not a big deal. I'm sure someone else will do so if necessary. Just try to avoid doing a block copy-paste of text into Wikipedia, which is definitely forbidden by copyright (like, copy-pasting an entire paragraph). NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:23, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
Fronticla/Idenitor
Don't really report many Socks, so sorry I got it wrong. My only interactions in the past were with Fronticla, and since he was the banned account, I thought he should be the "master", I see now that it should be the older created account. Thanks for pointing that out. Onel5969 TT me 11:57, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Onel5969: don't worry about it. Thanks for the report. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:02, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
mjr524 . Thanks
Thank you for the very helpful information, especially about block quotes.
Chris Pratt Birthday Source
I found an article published by Mashable which says, "Thursday 21 June [2018] was Chris Pratt's 39th birthday." Here is the source: [1] I hope this will be acceptable. Thanks! Count Awesome (talk) 02:05, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
References
- Yeah, it looks acceptable. It seems to be quoting an official twitter feed for its information. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:11, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Well-meaning edits
NinjaRobotPirate: I'm sorry you didn't care for my edits to the Andy Samberg article, and felt compelled to revert them. However, I can't imagine why you, or anyone, would characterize them as "vandalism".
I'm a long-time professional technical writer and copyeditor, and contribute my time to WP because I consider it worthwhile. I never presume to change factual content, unless I notice something that's obviously wrong and can verify it. Most of the time, I suggest ways to consolidate information and eliminate unnecessary words—feeling that the briefer and clearer text is, the more likely people will make the effort to read it.
Are you some kind of special WP officer with the responsibility of reversing edits you consider unhelpful? Or are you just another casual contributor such as I—who, for some reason, decided to take my edits into your own hands? (I have no idea how WP's power structure is, er, structured; is there a page explaining it?)
In either case, given my 15+ years of generally well-received service to WP, I'm surprised you didn't extend the courtesy of contacting me first so I could explain my intentions. Editorial disagreement is one thing; accusing someone of malicious intent is another.
That said, I realize you may have just been having a bad hair day. It can happen to any of us. – AndyFielding (talk) 08:37, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- @AndyFielding: As I said in the message that you just removed, I reverted your edits in part because you changed "Trump" to "Drumpf", which looks like childish vandalism to me. You can read about Wikipedia's administrators at Wikipedia:Administrators. No, administrators do not have any special say in content. You can make whatever copy edits you like without my approval. However, when people vandalize the encyclopedia, such as changing "Trump" to "Drumpf" in a direct quotation, administrators can block editors from editing to prevent further abuse. It looks like this was an unintentional change you made because you had a browser extension installed. You should be aware that you're responsible for the edits you make; this includes edits that a browser extension performs. Yes, sometimes I get very irritable after I've spend time cleaning up vandalism, and I apologize for not looking at your history of positive contributions. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:17, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining. I'm sorry about the inadvertent "Trump" to "Drumpf" changes, which were caused by a text-intercepting extension for Google Chrome which I failed to deactivate before editing. This happened once before, and someone was nice enough to make me aware of it so I could correct it. To avoid further problems, I've uninstalled the extension, and will tolerate seeing the name of our
adolescent incommander-in-chief as necessary. – AndyFielding (talk) 06:54, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining. I'm sorry about the inadvertent "Trump" to "Drumpf" changes, which were caused by a text-intercepting extension for Google Chrome which I failed to deactivate before editing. This happened once before, and someone was nice enough to make me aware of it so I could correct it. To avoid further problems, I've uninstalled the extension, and will tolerate seeing the name of our
CheckUser blocks in possible need of renewal
You have on previous occasions blocked both of these IPs and now they are back with some rather peculiar contributions. One of them is currently serving a short block for disruptive editing, but it looks like a more permanent issue with a longer block being called for. I can sort of guess who the original account is, but as we are deep in CU territory, I thought it would be better to ask your advice. Favonian (talk) 18:58, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Ugh, both hard blocked for three months. @There'sNoTime: could you look into a global block, especially for 186.46.45.22? There are likely to be a few sleepers on Commons. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:39, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Taking a look now - TNT 💖 23:41, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Both globally blocked for three months, also locked some sleepers - TNT 💖 23:48, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for looking into that. Sadly, that's probably only half the sleepers that are currently active. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:54, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Both globally blocked for three months, also locked some sleepers - TNT 💖 23:48, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Taking a look now - TNT 💖 23:41, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
2600:387:9:3:0:0:0:0/64
2600:387:9:3:0:0:0:0/64 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
Hi,
I don't really know User:Maleidys Perez's types of edits all too well, but is it possible that the most recent edits from this IP range are coming from the same user who was the intended target of the other previous blocks on this IP range? Thanks. 201.142.175.61 (talk) 03:39, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- That's a mobile network operator, which means almost anyone could show up on that IP range, as long as they live within the service area (seems to be Florida). There are a couple sock puppets from this area that I can usually recognize, but the most recent edits don't look particularly familiar to me. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:36, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Checkuser
Can I ask you to run a checkuser for MyBleedingHeart and 125.99.219.201 to see if it's the same person? The IP reverted the genre in The Raid 2 article and I suspect it's that registered user's IP. Tks, Slightlymad (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:12, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Slightlymad: sorry, I can't do that. It would constitute outing on my behalf if I revealed someone's IP address. However, what I can do is run the two accounts through the Editor Interaction Analyser and compare their edits. It looks to me like MyBleedingHeart may be logging out to edit war. I'll leave a warning. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:31, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying that to me. Your warning has been replied by the editor, accusing you of being me. :) Tks, Slightlymad (talk ⋅ contribs) 05:28, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, the checkuser policy is a bit complicated. By the way, you also should be careful of your reverts on that article. Everyone gets a little too worked up over content disputes sometimes, and I'd really prefer that nobody got in trouble over this. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:46, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying that to me. Your warning has been replied by the editor, accusing you of being me. :) Tks, Slightlymad (talk ⋅ contribs) 05:28, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Concerns about new editor behavior
1996HeatherChan has been displaying some behavior I find odd, and I have been reading so many detective novelsSPIs I can't tell if something is up or if I am being paranoid. They edit Vanessa Vanjie Mateo, you revert them, an IP shows up and reverts you, Another Believer reverts them, 1996 reinstates, AB reverts. the exact same minute, 1996 heads over to an article AB was working on, and appears to revenge revert the most recent of AB's edit to that page. About 20 minutes later they go back to working on TV-show related articles, and so far haven't edited since for the last 20 minutes. The behavior doesn't match to any of the socks or spa/lta I am familiar with, and the revenge revert seems to be a one off. My question is, do you or any of your TPS recognise this as a pattern or any unwelcome ex-editors, and should any warning/helpful advice be given to 1996HC in regards to their actions? If they are a genuine new editor who just doesn't know about all our policies, I wouldn't want to scare them off. Thanks, L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 16:52, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
- Newer editors sometimes alternate between editing as an IP and using their registered account. It's not always intentional; sometimes they don't realize they've accidentally logged out. {{Uw-login}} is a standardized template that can be used to warn editors who make disruptive edits while logged out. There are a few sockmasters who are interested in anime (Wooeyparks (talk · contribs), Nintenchris5963 (talk · contribs), YugiMuto (talk · contribs), etc), but I don't think any of them care about drag queens. If you look at the IP editor's contributions, there are edits to both anime and drag queens there, too. This tool can be useful in finding editors who have shared interests. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:33, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Possible sock?
ferret pointed me your way regarding a possible CU for Fire emblem fan 776. There's clear autoconfirmed permissions gaming and the following edits seem to indicate some experience. --Izno (talk) 04:38, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
- I heart kumamon looks very Likely. Going by the article history at Kumamon, there's a behavioral connection between I heart Kuramon and The2002 bmw. Fire Emblem fan and The2002 bmw have overlapping interests in Japanese video games, blocking policy, and uploading images. I think there's enough behavioral evidence that a block is warranted, but it the technical evidence is a bit inconsistent. I suspect proxies. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:15, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
- Some quacking for you. --Izno (talk) 12:44, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
- Which the long snake rodent ate. At least the eggs I guess. --Izno (talk) 13:05, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
Taking swipes at another editor before closing talk page discussion
Can (1) a non-admin editor impose closure of a talk page discussion (that had, basically, ended), and (2) before closing thread leave a personal remark about another editor as posted here? Pyxis Solitary yak 19:44, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
- I've seen admins do that, too. I think it's poor form for someone to leave a parting shot and immediately close the discussion themselves. It's a cheap way to get the last word. Yeah, I don't think people should do that. But as long as it's not a big deal, I'd probably try to let it go. Wikipedia will drive you mad if you let it. If it gets to the point of personal attacks, that'd definitely be sanctionable, though. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:37, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you, NRP. One of the first things I learned about Wikipedia is the power-tripping from some editors. I've got a lot of mileage on me and I've seen it happen time and again: sooner or later all of it comes back to bite you. Ciao! and thanks again. Pyxis Solitary yak 10:58, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Alex
Hi there. Ferret's away at the moment, so I thought I'd discuss with you, since you're also very familiar. I'm 99% sure the user "Suzy Trigger" is another Alex sock. Virtually all edits have been related to Twenty One Pilots or making unsourced changes to birthnames on BLP, both long-time habits of his. Thought I'd ask you for your input before I take action. Thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 18:57, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, forgot to link to it. Contributions here. As you can see, virtually every edit is related to Twenty One Pilots, or altering BLP names without a source, both long-time Alex activities. Sergecross73 msg me 12:30, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Sergecross73: I'd call it Likely. All the technical data matches up, and they're on the same ISP. Also, I think this and this pretty much seal it. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:00, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, I was pretty certain with what I was observing myself, but with that, and the fact that they've made literally the same edits, seals it for me too. Sergecross73 msg me 18:28, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Sergecross73: I'd call it Likely. All the technical data matches up, and they're on the same ISP. Also, I think this and this pretty much seal it. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:00, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
185.180.12.0/24
185.180.12.0/24 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
Unless if someone else gets to it before you do, this range that you blocked needs to have TPA revoked. Thanks. 2601:1C0:4401:24A0:5875:44B:29DA:95BD (talk) 00:54, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
- It's a little frustrating sometimes, but Wikipedia's policies are written so that administrators generally have to be reactive instead of proactive. It doesn't look like this IP range has done anything disruptive since being blocked. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:11, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Sandy Thorburn
Hi - I hope I'm using this correctly... thank you for correcting the Sandy Thorburn page. His crimes affected someone close to my family, but luckily his attempts to vandalize and delete the page have been unsuccessful so far.
He's currently using the name "Xander" (a nickname for Alexander, as is Sandy) professionally and online, and I'm wondering how I would add this to the page. I tried (AKA "Xander") but it was deleted, perhaps by him but perhaps for incorrect formatting.
Sorry for the bother; thanks for your time. Littlebobbyrocker (talk) 02:10, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Littlebobbyrocker: it looks like someone claiming to be Sandy Thorburn has nominated the article for deletion. It looks like the same person who nominated the article for deletion was responsible for undoing your edit. We discourage people from editing their own biography, as this is an obvious conflict of interest. I can leave a message to that effect for the account claiming to be Thorburn. I guess one thing you should be aware of is that our policies also discourage people from editing biographies if they have been involved in a "significant controversy or dispute" with the subject. I don't know your situation, so I'm not sure if that would apply to you. You should keep in mind that if you have very strong opinions on a topic, it can cause your edits to become unconsciously biased. At that point, it's easy to unintentionally violate Wikipedia's policies, such as keeping a neutral point of view.
Another thing to keep in mind is that Wikipedia tries to keep as closely as possible to what's reported in mainstream sources, such as respected newspapers. We can't "expose the truth" ourselves; we have to wait until a journalist does so, and then we can summarize what the journalist says. This is to keep Wikipedia verifiable; otherwise, we'd end up with articles full of rumors and fake news. So, this makes it difficult for us to update the article on current events. It's best to wait for a newspaper to report on something, then cite the newspaper. I know this is kind of a lot to deal with just to edit a Wikipedia article, but these policies came about because of prior issues, some of which caused major problems for us. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:08, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Qwqwqw5155
It would seem that the unblock request on Qwqwqw5155 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) should be expunged. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 19:43, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Jim1138: you mean revision deletion? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:47, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
- The editor seems to have stopped. I don't know if a revdel is necessary, the editor did add that content about 12 times including talk:Qwqwqw5155 page which the last of is still visible. See WP:ANI#Editor rapidly creating new accounts - the four accounts that I saw with Huggle. I shall leave the decision to you. Thanks for all your work! Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 19:55, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
GOLDIEM_J Message
Thx for not changing that birth date back. It is correct, and I'm telling you that now. JG360 (talk) 20:49, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- @JG360: it's going to be reverted unless you add a source. If not by me, then by someone else. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:54, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
"Get ready cause I've had enough" said Katy Perry
If you need a source for Stampy's age, just look it up online. Look up '5 things you didn't know about Stampy' on YouTube or something. You are the only person who believes that that birth date is incorrect. I don't know a particular source to give you, cause there's so many. So please keep it like that, and take that lyric from roar. JG360 (talk) 09:03, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- @JG360: it is your responsibility to find and cite a source if you want to add this. I suggest you add a citation a reliable source if you want this to stay in the article. If you keep re-adding it without a source, you will likely be blocked from editing Wikipedia. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:06, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- : @NinjaRobotPirate:
At least you didn't change it back to something unspecific. Why did you carry on doing that before? Also, if I do get banned, I can always create a new account, can't I? Ps, did you like my joke about roar?
When the sharpest words wanna cut me down
I'm gonna send a flood, gonna drown them out
I am brave, I am bruised, I am who I'm meant to be
This is me
- @JG360: you are becoming very disruptive; threats to engage in sock puppetry are not a good step for you to take here. I suggest you 1) add a inline citation for this date of birth now; 2) give up ideas of using sock puppets; and 3) look over our policies and guidelines before you continue to edit Wikipedia. We have a source for the previous age. We don't have a source for the current age. This is how Wikipedia works. If you want the specific birth date on Wikipedia, you have to add a citation for it. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:27, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
Are you a Wikipedia official? I am not doing that 'sock puppetry' you linked me to. That's not me. I am a caring little boy (well, not really little, I'm a teenager) and true Stampy fan who knows quite a bit about him. I'm gonna link this video that contains his birth date. Can you tell me if it's good enough plz? I'm not trying to be disruptive. I am unaware of any sock puppetry I may have done. I don't really know how to end this, so I'm just gonna say bye👋 — Preceding unsigned comment added by JG360 (talk • contribs) 09:42, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- @JG360: There are no "officials" on Wikipedia. However, I am administrator, which means I have the ability to block disruptive editors and vandals. No, that video is not good enough. It's just some random person who uploaded a video that essentially reads through our Wikipedia article. We need a reliable source for this. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:56, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
Just so you know, it is me again. They just changed my username for me. Anyway, people who run Wikipedia. That's what I meant by officials. Next, Stampy tweeted this, thanking everyone who sent him birthday messages. Surely this should be enough proof. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GOLDIEM J (talk • contribs) 10:12, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- @GOLDIEM J: I've raised the question on WP:RSN#WP:DOB and thanking people for birthday wishes on Twitter. The community can answer this question. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 10:55, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
JG360 (or GOLDIEM J) it is not a good idea to talk to admins like this. And saying "Also, if I do get banned, I can always create a new account, can't I" is a threat to sockpuppet to avoid a ban (see WP:EVASION and wp:sock). This could well earn you a ban for just saying you would do this. I suggest you say it was a joke and apologize.Slatersteven (talk) 11:03, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
Ok I'm sorry. I don't mean to bully, and I didn't know he was an admin at first. I don't make changes to Wikipedia articles unless I'm sure it's correct. And if it's not correct, I'll just wait for someone to tell me that. I hope I don't get banned for sock puppetry threats, and I try to be as non-bully and safe as possible. Also if you still need proof for his age, I recommend finding other Stampy fans and asking them. Different people may have looked at different sources.
"Is it too late now to say sorry?" — Preceding unsigned comment added by GOLDIEM J (talk • contribs) 17:14, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- @GOLDIEM J: sometimes people say things they don't mean, or they say things that get misinterpreted. I wouldn't worry about it. Just try to learn a little more about Wikipedia's policies. The consensus at WP:RSN#WP:DOB and thanking people for birthday wishes on Twitter seems to be that the twitter source is not good enough because it doesn't prove anything. You can add your thoughts to the thread there, you know. Maybe you can convince them that it's good enough. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:23, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
Awe thanks for understanding my regret☺️ and I'm glad it's not "too late now to say sorry". I just googled 'stampylonghead birth date' and my assumption came up from Google, not something like quora or something. If this doesn't prove it, I just don't know what will. I hope it can. Thanks again💋 — Preceding unsigned comment added by GOLDIEM J (talk • contribs) 17:45, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- @GOLDIEM J: Google search results are not a reliable source. Reliable sources are news sites written by professional journalists, like The New York Times and the BBC. That's why the previous date was used. It's sourced to the BBC. The birthday that you're trying to add is unsourced. By our policy on biographies of living people, we can't have unsourced birth dates in our articles. I'm going to restore the sourced birth information from the BBC. Please don't restore the unsourced birth date again. Like I said, we do block people for doing that. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:37, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Can you link me to this source please?
DC vandal rangeblock
Three days ago, you blocked 99.203.16.0/23 but the block expired. Today, 99.203.16.170 has kicked into action. Can we get a longer rangeblock? Binksternet (talk) 18:32, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, let's try a week this time. I'm not as familiar with Sprint as I am some other ISPs. Looks like I got the IP range right, though. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 18:49, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- Excellent. I'll keep an eye out. Binksternet (talk) 19:04, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Hus12345
Thanks for your assistance with Hus12345. I continue to play whack-a-mole with socks that are appearing daily to create such esoteric categories as Category:Singaporean people of Malian descent. --Laser brain (talk) 02:04, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Laser brain: obvious sock puppets sometimes show up when I'm looking at newbie category edits and newbie template edits. I'm getting a bit better at recognizing some of the less obvious regulars now, too. Let me know if it gets bad, and I can try to find a range block with the checkuser tool. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:25, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
- That's useful. Got two more since I posted this. --Laser brain (talk) 10:36, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – August 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2018).
- After a discussion at Meta, a new user group called "interface administrators" (formerly "technical administrator") has been created. Come the end of August, interface admins will be the only users able to edit site-wide JavaScript and CSS pages like MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css, or edit other user's personal JavaScript and CSS. The intention is to improve security and privacy by reducing the number of accounts which could be used to compromise the site or another user's account through malicious code. The new user group can be assigned and revoked by bureaucrats. Discussion is ongoing to establish details for implementing the group on the English Wikipedia.
- Following a request for comment, the WP:SISTER style guideline now states that in the mainspace, interwiki links to Wikinews should only be made as per the external links guideline. This generally means that within the body of an article, you should not link to Wikinews about a particular event that is only a part of the larger topic. Wikinews links in "external links" sections can be used where helpful, but not automatically if an equivalent article from a reliable news outlet could be linked in the same manner.
- The WMF Anti-Harassment Tools team is seeking input on the second set of wireframes for the Special:Block redesign that will introduce partial blocks. The new functionality will allow you to block a user from editing a specific set of pages, pages in a category, a namespace, and for specific actions such as moving pages and uploading files.
Your Maze Runner visit
You recently edited Maze Runner and I noticed this IP 157.25.107.18 is doing what looks like a sequence of unreliable test edits changing Universal to 20th Century, and vice versa, on various film articles. I did correct this on the film page for Skyscaper, though I left Maze Runner for you to check on this IP editor and confirm if this is an issue with this IP. JohnWickTwo (talk) 20:16, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
- Seems to be the same vandalism as Special:Contributions/81.219.4.92. I gave a warning. If it starts up again, I'll block. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:42, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
- IP 157 seems to be back today and is even undoing your own corrections of him here: [1]. IP 157 has altered 3-4 articles now since my last notice here which I have not reverted in order for you to verify. Same apparent reversing of actual production company for a random one. JohnWickTwo (talk) 01:33, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- Just noticing that IP 157 is blocked for 31 hours by @K6ka:. Several of the "reversed randomly" articles remain unfixed. Will let the two of you decide how best to repair all the articles still damaged which still need to be repaired. JohnWickTwo (talk) 01:39, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- It looks like the vandalism got cleared up. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:16, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
Confusion
Hello. Me again. I'm a bit confused about the England county of West Midlands. My dad is saying it's wrong, and that's it's not a county. I'm so confused. Can you help me out please? If you can't do you know anyone else who can? Thanks again🙏 GOLDIEM J (talk) 08:04, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
- You could ask about that at the reference desk. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:44, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
Stale?
Hi NRP, I'm looking at these accounts as being the same person. GOOD Morning would be the master. Ravensfire also thinks they're the same guy. They have tons of intersections, and they tend to like to really drool-up Indian celebrity articles, as they're doing at Jyothika. I'm actually surprised there's only one SPI report on this guy, since he's been a headache for a while. Do you happen to know if the GOOD Morning data is stale? Is behavior the only way we could link this new guy? Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:03, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- There's a decent amount of overlap, but the style feels different. While GM is stale, they do have a sock that was just recently blocked Tuftparsi and their usual IP range is also noted in the SPI. I'm 50/50 on Jyothu - they don't have the same combative style that GM had (and showed with Tuftparsi in only 20 edits!) and don't have quite the same focus on promote only one actress and make look bad. Ravensfire (talk) 15:11, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb and Ravensfire: sometimes the checkuser log records tantalizing bits of information – maybe even enough to help in an investigation. In this case, no, there's nothing. Everything is stale. Jyothi seems somewhat Unlikely to Tuftparsi. They both have rather stable technical data, which is mostly different from each other. I'd say you have to depend on behavior if you want to connect them. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:55, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks all. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:09, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb and Ravensfire: sometimes the checkuser log records tantalizing bits of information – maybe even enough to help in an investigation. In this case, no, there's nothing. Everything is stale. Jyothi seems somewhat Unlikely to Tuftparsi. They both have rather stable technical data, which is mostly different from each other. I'd say you have to depend on behavior if you want to connect them. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:55, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
Rangeblock
Per this, I'm assuming this is block evasion. Home Lander (talk) 00:36, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's a chatty vandal. I can disable talk page access if it gets too annoying. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:42, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- Good enough, will no longer engage with them. Home Lander (talk) 00:50, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
SPI/LukaRuckels
Regarding this, see also LR.2004 (contributions). Best regards, — Godsy (TALKCONT) 04:07, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, seems pretty obvious. I guess we're going to get a visit from LR.2006 next. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:14, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
Sock puppet back again
The sock puppet of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TimPreston making disruptive editing at Jawed Karim is back again here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tms59
Other editors undid his edit but he will be back continuing on so please check — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.165.236.118 (talk) 06:50, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, seems pretty obvious. I blocked the account. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:58, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Another Sealioning RfC
Talk:Sealioning#RfC about the inclusion of suggested ways to deal with sealioning
(Notifying everyone who participated in the previous RfC.) --Guy Macon (talk) 01:45, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Clash of Clefairies
Do you think this might be the same vandal? I've been on a Wiki-break for a while, preparing for an arbitration committee case and doing off-Wiki stuff. As soon as I return, the only article I have edited is Leatherface (2017 film) (which just became under GA review), a place that the COC vandal has been known to target. And as soon as I returned, Maylasian IPs started edit warring on that article. Granted it could be a coincidence, but during my Wiki-break, the Clash of Clefairies vandal also began spamming The Human Centipede Wiki because I'm the main administrator there. DarkKnight2149 16:36, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Probably, yes. Range blocked. Might need to widen that range block, though. Let me know if more get through. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:03, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Rangeblock
Hi NRP. Thanks for your help with a recent rangeblock. The 39.57 IP range is now back, doing the same vandalism across cricket articles. 39.57.155.216 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) was the latest one to be blocked, a few moments ago. This range was previously blocked for 1 month in May. Please could you re-instate the block? Let me know if you need any more info on this. Thank you. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 10:22, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- I spent some time trying to figure out a way to avoid collateral damage, but I don't really see it. I blocked the /16 again for a month. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:25, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 15:02, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
Pulsifier220
This editor, despite being blocked and warned countless time for doing unconstructive edits, is sill doing it, namely at Dora the Explorer (film) and MIB (film). I’ve warned him to stop, and I dunno it feels like he sees it as a game or something. I dunno what to make of this edit summary, but clearly they have no interest in stopping their unhelpful and unconstructive editing. Rusted AutoParts 14:47, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Rusted AutoParts: I think it'd be best if you filed a complaint at WP:ANI and got a less "involved" admin to look at this. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:58, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
ANI thread
Hi NRP. Please see this thread at ANI, which includes a link to a previous thread you commented on. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 16:57, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
Another one
- 210.186.122.193 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
Here's another. After three nearly years, I don't think time management is this vandal's strong-suit. DarkKnight2149 01:22, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
- If more show up from that IP range, I can do a range block, but this IP is a little stale. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:24, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Alex activity
Hey NPR. Haven't been really following closely as activity was low for a while on this, but Ajraddatz thought Dolca is a "probable" but I let it ride for a while. A spurt of others popped up this week: Dolcaoriginal133, Soulganism, SuperAnuerysm, 21 pie lots
In particular the last one shows autoconfirmed gaming to edit one of Alex's targets that's still under semiprot. -- ferret (talk) 11:54, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Ferret: Soulganism and 21 pie lots are Confirmed to Suzy Trigger. I'll block them. Dolcaoriginal133 is Inconclusive and may be using proxies or a VPN – the IP addresses used bounce between several countries. I've never seen Hovanec do this. SuperAnuerysm looks Unrelated to any of the others or to Hovanec. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 18:45, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Who is 124.106.246.30
You blocked 124.106.246.30 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) for block evasion. Who is he? It's likely I've run across other incarnations. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 07:59, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- It's someone who uses 124.106.244.0/22. I don't think there's a registered account, but the editor was blocked for a month as 124.106.246.195 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 10:40, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2018).
- None
- Asterion • Crisco 1492 • KF • Kudpung • Liz • Randykitty • Spartaz
- Optimist on the run → Voice of Clam
Interface administrator changes
- Amorymeltzer • Mr. Stradivarius • MusikAnimal • MSGJ • TheDJ • Xaosflux
- Following a "stop-gap" discussion, six users have temporarily been made interface administrators while discussion is ongoing for a more permanent process for assigning the permission. Interface administrators are now the only editors allowed to edit sitewide CSS and JavaScript pages, as well as CSS/JS pages in another user's userspace. Previously, all administrators had this ability. The right can be granted and revoked by bureaucrats.
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour.
- Some abuse filter variables have changed. They are now easier to understand for non-experts. The old variables will still work but filter editors are encouraged to replace them with the new ones. You can find the list of changed variables on mediawiki.org. They have a note which says
Deprecated. Use ... instead
. An example isarticle_text
which is nowpage_title
. - Abuse filters can now use how old a page is. The variable is
page_age
.
- The Arbitration Committee has resolved to perform a round of Checkuser and Oversight appointments. The usernames of all applicants will be shared with the Functionaries team, and they will be requested to assist in the vetting process. The deadline to submit an application is 23:59 UTC, 12 September, and the candidates that move forward will be published on-wiki for community comments on 18 September.
User Dilidor and ANI complaint
NinjaRobot, can I ask you for some followup? You commented negatively on my recent ANI complaint about aggressive reverts, and that complaint was then twice closed by a non-administrator on the same grounds as you gave, i.e. that this is a content dispute and not a matter for ANI. However, I noticed on your user page that you oppose edit warring and in particular, aggressive reverts, which is exactly what I was asking for administrator support about.
I have now brought the matter back to the relevant Talk page. Can I ask you to follow the dispute and weigh in though? In particular, I noticed while searching through ANI that the editor I am up against, Dilidor, has a pattern of such uncivil edit warring: e.g. see here and here. I don't really feel up to a concerted battle against him, I am a peaceful editor who is not territorial. But I do object to bullying tactics such as he is using - with help, unfortunately, from an administrator...
-Wwallacee (talk) 18:17, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
- The non-admin closure was correct. We don't resolve content disputes there, only behavorial issues. It's very frustrating when someone reverts you, especially when you know you're right, but the other person likely knows that they're right, too. That's why we encourage dispute resolution. If you're looking for a moderator, the dispute resolution noticeboard can provide this. I personally don't see any bullying – just an argument between two editors who can't agree over whether text is original research. When accused of original research, you could directly quote the conclusions of the author you're citing. You have to be careful that you don't replicate too much copyrighted text, but you can copy-and-paste the most relevant parts to the talk page. A couple sentences is usually enough, I think. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:39, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
- Noted, thanks. I still think there is bullying going on here, because Dilidor reverted rather than engage with me on the Talk page, and an administrator intervened within minutes to freeze the page at the state of Dilidor's revert. -Wwallacee (talk) 05:31, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Block evader
Could you take a look at Talk:Portal 2? Gamerh5, Figurator1, Deducer2, Resolver3 and the already self-outed 85.194.12.145. If you can work any sort of valid range block. -- ferret (talk) 14:13, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Ferret: it's very likely to be the same person, but the accounts seem to be on proxies. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:25, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi. You recently blocked this editor indefinitely for their socking—thanks!—but they have blanked their talk page, removing both your tag and the block template in the process. Are editors who are blocked as socks allowed to remove the sock tags and sock block templates? I had a look at WP:BLANKING, but I couldn't find anything. Amaury (talk | contribs) 17:33, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)@Amaury: Typically, the only items a blocked editor is prohibited from removing are declined unblock requests. SQLQuery me! 23:34, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Amaury: yeah, it's OK to remove block notices. It's mostly just for their benefit, anyway; it just tells them how to request an unblock. If I remember correctly, I was the one who removed the sock puppetry tag from his talk page. For registered editors, that should go on the user page. Usually, the blocking admin (or an SPI clerk) will take care of any necessary tags, so editors generally don't have to worry about that. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:24, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
Offensively blocked me for force Creation of wiki Account...|
Helle dude, You offensively blocked me for asking create an account in wikipedia. I'm not interested in creating an account. Please stop blocking me. I'm very happy to editing as IP User. My edits is always absolutely very good and fine. My edits are not vandalism. Thanking you. 2405:204:6228:4851:B67B:7464:EFE4:B13 (talk) 08:11, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
- ??? ... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:13, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
- The IP editor is complaining about a range block I did. A persistent vandal was using that IP range. Unfortunately, the only way to stop the vandalism is to temporarily cause some innocent people to be unable to edit. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:19, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Euler's Day Off
I fully agree that Euler's Day Off should be deleted, but unfortunately it has already been nominated for WP:PROD and contested [2], so I have declined it on procedural grounds (any page may only be nominated for PROD once). I suggest you raise it at WP:AfD. Voice of Clam (formerly Optimist on the run) (talk) 16:35, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- Oh, OK. Thanks for the note. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 18:14, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
A Message of Apology
NinjaRobotPirate, we're sorry for the vandalism in editing on Don Bluth's A Troll in Central Park (1994) and Thumbelina (1994) last month. The reason we just interfered repeatedly is that we saw some details from the ending credits. The production for these two animated films took place at Don Bluth's studios in Ireland and California. However, several of Europe's animation companies, including A. Film Production in Copenhagen, Denmark, Moro Studios (or Estudios Moro) and Lápiz Azul in Madrid, Spain, are known for providing other animation work such as the additional animation and in-between services.
We'd like to understand that you do not like unsourced information as if they were guessing games to you, but for most of us, this was not the point. We're still concerned that after pre-production and before post-production, nearly all western animation in film, television and home entertainment were still either outsourced or subcontracted to the Asian countries including Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and the Philippines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.224.57.136 (talk) 04:36, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- Well, the unsourced content is annoying, but I blocked you for block evasion. That means I thought you were already blocked, but you kept editing Wikipedia despite the block. It looks like I thought you were Idrinkapplejuicies456 (talk · contribs). For example: him and you; him and you; him and you; him and you. You're both adding the same content, and both have an obsession with identifying Asian studios that performed animation services. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:42, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- You're right. We are having an obsession with identifying Asian studios that were performing animation services for the western studios and companies. Just because of this, and your dislike of unsourced contents in editing, is THIS what they have to do with the meeting between Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un in the 2018 North Korea–United States summit at the Capella Hotel on Singapore's Sentosa Island? In the same way as you guys cannot allow the sources of overseas animation, this Supreme Leader of North Korea could threaten to start World War III by destroying our whole country if our current president ask him to allow only Easter, Halloween and Christmas in his country and refuse to take "no" for his answer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.224.57.136 (talk) 16:16, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- I'll take that as a rather silly denial. Just try to follow the site's policies. You seem to be trying to add useful content, but you're not adding citations. If you don't understand how to do so, try asking in the Teahouse. You can use
<ref>http://www.example.com/</ref>
as a rather basic citation. Just copy-paste the website's address between the ref tags. The IMDb is not usable as a citation on Wikipedia because it is user-generated content, but there are other useful resources you can use. I usually check the American Film Institute when I'm working on American films, for example. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:14, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
- I'll take that as a rather silly denial. Just try to follow the site's policies. You seem to be trying to add useful content, but you're not adding citations. If you don't understand how to do so, try asking in the Teahouse. You can use
- You're right. We are having an obsession with identifying Asian studios that were performing animation services for the western studios and companies. Just because of this, and your dislike of unsourced contents in editing, is THIS what they have to do with the meeting between Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un in the 2018 North Korea–United States summit at the Capella Hotel on Singapore's Sentosa Island? In the same way as you guys cannot allow the sources of overseas animation, this Supreme Leader of North Korea could threaten to start World War III by destroying our whole country if our current president ask him to allow only Easter, Halloween and Christmas in his country and refuse to take "no" for his answer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.224.57.136 (talk) 16:16, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
Draupadi
Hi NRP, I'm looking at the edit history of Draupadi and I see a lot of socking. KarnaArjuna3 is a new flare-up. Clearly he's related to the last blocked sock, KarnaArjuna1, who was probably a sock of KARNAARJUNA, who was probably a sock of VIKRAMVEDA (based on large deletions that they have in common.) I also see Evil Arjuna, Ugly Arjuna, Brihuu Arjun Aunty etc. Any idea who the master is? I see KINGPORUS has an SPI, but so does Arjunkrishna90 here. Thoughts on this? Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:26, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- I don't know. There's a considerable bit of crossover between Arjunkrishna90 and KINGPORUS, but I don't know the topic area. Using the CU tool to connect such old accounts would be impossible. Maybe you could ask an SPI clerk to consider merging the cases? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:50, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- Interestingly, a new user (read into that what you may) commented on my talk page that they didn't think the editing style was the same as the Arjunakrishna90 account. They opined that AK90 was more factually accurate than KINGPORUS, so maybe the trail leads back there. I dunno. Thanks man. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:23, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, interesting. Don't really know what to make of that. If it's true that this is an subject matter expert who happened to wander into an SPI case, that would make me happy. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:53, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- Interestingly, a new user (read into that what you may) commented on my talk page that they didn't think the editing style was the same as the Arjunakrishna90 account. They opined that AK90 was more factually accurate than KINGPORUS, so maybe the trail leads back there. I dunno. Thanks man. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:23, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
WCF
I definitely wouldn't object to an unblock of the latest sock if another admin/CU disagrees with my assessment. I focused on behavior when deciding. For what it's worth, WCF has used IPs from the UK and Thailand before, and is likely to have done so again in an attempt to evade rangeblocks (some set by yours truly). Best, GABgab 17:46, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
- @GeneralizationsAreBad: yeah, I thought the behavioral evidence looked good, too. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 18:06, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Excuse Me
Some IP addresses you blocked as part of a range block weren’t even block evading at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1009:B04B:9E4B:5979:7975:2715:93B0 (talk) 19:57, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
- That is the nature of a range block. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:32, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Block/appeals process
More information added at User_talk:120.17.85.26#Block_appeal. I believe the process needs much improvement. —DIV (120.17.228.20 (talk) 02:45, 20 September 2018 (UTC))
Block Proxy
You immediately block me after caught by open proxy. So what shall I do first when this situation occurs? (197.156.95.206 (talk) 21:42, 20 September 2018 (UTC))
- You seriously need to stop evading your block. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:43, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Possible evasion
LiquidNix versus LGDGamingFan and Worldless0 -- ferret (talk) 02:05, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Ferret: Worldless0 is Confirmed, but LGDGamingFan seems Unrelated. LGDGamingFan is editing from a different country. I don't see any evidence of proxies, either. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:37, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
More block evasion by User:Owen912
Owen912 has been evading their block again using 221.126.224.68 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) who explicitly mentioned they were Owen912 here. Thought I might drop a message here since you blocked some of their other socks. ~ KN2731 {t · c} 08:04, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- Blocked. I guess I'll semi-protect the affected articles if this continues. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:46, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Apologizement to User:NinjaRobotPirate
Sorry for the block evasion that I did at a different IP address, so you may extend the block for one or two more weeks. Thanks for your message previously, and you may tell more admins such as Ymblanter, the administrator who blocked my account indefinitely.61.244.97.142 (talk) 10:35, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish. You can still edit other language Wikipedias, so maybe you should make some constructive edits on their articles and use that as evidence that you can follow rules. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:58, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi, NRP. The time has come to protect the article again. The last time it was protected was on 19 September 2017. Not only do I believe it needs to be protected again, but for also a much longer period because those who keep making troll edits do it in intervals. It's a biography of a living person and as a WP:BLP needs to be constantly monitored for trolling by fans of Wynonna Earp.
The following are IP-only editors adding birth year to infobox without a reliable source that can verify it, and one a substitution of actor's M/D with that of the tv character. The most recent edit was today (21 September).
The following are IP-only editors adding series co-star as spouse in infobox, deleting real spouse name, adding a sexual preference. The most recent edit was on 17 September 2018.
Thanks! Pyxis Solitary yak 15:25, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Pyxis Solitary: yeah, that article seems to be having some trouble. I semi-protected it for three months. That's kind of a long time, but we can try unprotecting it if people make constructive edit requests on the talk page. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:14, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for doing the longer protection. It needs it. Particularly while the season is still running and comic cons are happening. Pyxis Solitary yak 20:22, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Oxy LTA
New account today - [3], would you mind blocking them? Ravensfire (talk) 16:17, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
I did put the Moviefone link to Beyond the Black Rainbow to this film and shortened the summary in order to remove this template: {{Long plot|section}}
Would this help?: "When Elena, a telepathic teen, tries to flee a mysterious facility that have imprisoned her entire life, her unbalanced therapist is enraged and relentlessly pursues her". Beyond the Black Rainbow on Netflix Espngeek (talk) 20:45, 21 September 2018 (UTC)Espngeek
- @Espngeek: didn't I already explain to you that blanking entire plot summaries was disruptive? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:00, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
92.40.248.24 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Time: Sep 22, 2018 01:41:53
Message: 1 year and 4 month ago. block might be stale
Notes:
- If you do not have an account on UTRS, you may create one at the administrator registration interface.
- Alternatively, you can respond here and indicate whether you are supportive or opposed to an unblock for this user and your rationale, if applicable.
--UTRSBot (talk) 01:41, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Dlohcierekim: I'm not really all that familiar with these off-site queues, but shouldn't this request be going through WP:ACC rather than WP:UTRS? Anyway, that IP range has caused a lot of disruption, and there seem to be several sock puppets on it. I wouldn't recommend unblocking it, but you could try it if you wanted. As far as I can tell, there's still a global block on it, which would mean they still couldn't edit English Wikipedia until that was lifted, too. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 10:51, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
Help with an issue
Hi NRP. I'm not sure if you can help with this, but here goes. If you recall, in the past you helped with a rangeblock. This IP editor has moved away from anon. editing and is now editing as User:Nainanike. They've been pretty much stalking edits I've made to various cricket-related articles (some very obscure ones, some not). I started to build up some evidence of this here. I've asked them to stop doing this (in the most calm way I could), but was simply removed. Today I created this article and moments later, who should pop up and edit it? I find this behaviour disturbing to say the least, and is a text-book example of WP:HOUND ("Hounding usually involves following the target from place to place on Wikipedia"). Any help/advice here, or am I just being paranoid?! Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:59, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Lugnuts: This tool is supposed to help show interactions between users and highlight when there's been hounding. It's a little difficult for me to piece together what's going on, though. Even worse, I don't really understand the topic area. I would recommend going to WP:ANI. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:35, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. I don't really understand the results from that tool, but I'll make some more evidence of my own. Although I don't feel confident that anything will happen at ANI. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 12:47, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- For info, here's another example that's just happened. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 13:56, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Lugnuts: is the edit wrong? I could leave a message asking the editor to leave you alone. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:47, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- For info, here's another example that's just happened. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 13:56, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- Not wrong as such, just disconcerting that of the tens of thousands of cricket-related articles, the vast majority of their edits are after I've edited a certain article. Their next contributions follows the same pattern. If you could have a word, I'd be grateful. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 14:58, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- I've just seen your post on their talkpage (which was reverted...). Thanks for your help with this. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:01, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
The usual
- 2001:DF0:2BF:68:F19B:A49A:18B2:3DE4 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
- 192.100.135.122 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
Just realised that they have recently resurfaced. DarkKnight2149 09:26, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- Blocked. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:01, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
That ANI
Thanks for closing it, as it was starting to annoy me, but please keep an eye on the users, I still feel they might wage AfD war!! Cheers. Govvy (talk) 15:30, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, I suspect it's not going to end. These kinds of things rarely do. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:37, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- Ninja, can you please take a look at those diffs I posted? Widefox is consistently harassing, and it's unfair to claim that it's just "bickering" when I made many serious attempts to interact with him in reasonable ways. Can you please take my request for an IBAN seriously instead of dismissing a harassment complaint as "bickering"? – FenixFeather (talk)(Contribs) 20:33, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- I can't unilaterally impose an interaction ban. That would have to come from community consensus, and the community didn't really have a lot to say. Maybe that's for the best? A less apathetic response from the community could end poorly. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:37, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- Ninja, can you please take a look at those diffs I posted? Widefox is consistently harassing, and it's unfair to claim that it's just "bickering" when I made many serious attempts to interact with him in reasonable ways. Can you please take my request for an IBAN seriously instead of dismissing a harassment complaint as "bickering"? – FenixFeather (talk)(Contribs) 20:33, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
Quick check
This seems DUCK obvious but Rejens69 against Rokoh43. Second edits articles related to image the first uploaded, similar name pattern. -- ferret (talk) 22:51, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Ferret: already blocked by Materialscientist. Is it still worth doing a check? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:18, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Probably not. If I spot a third like it maybe. -- ferret (talk) 00:56, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
ANI
Responded to your comment on my ANI thread (SanAnMan). ----92.21.174.27 (talk) 16:42, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. You can also use {{ping}} to get my attention if you want. Might save you a little typing. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:39, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Martin Lee Smith1
Hi NRP, Martin Lee Smith1 (talk · contribs) whom you just blocked is a sock of Nsmutte (talk · contribs), and is now using unblock requests for trolling and personal attacks - could you remove TPA, please? Thanks! --bonadea contributions talk 06:17, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
- I figured something like that would happen and stuck around for a few minutes, but I guess I didn't stick around long enough. Next time, maybe I'll just block with talk page access revoked. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:09, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Freddie got Figgered
Hey NRP, I'm curious what you think about these draft articles. This one was deleted after a group of socks edited it. Draft:Freddie Figgers is brand new, created by an SPA who showed up in August, went through a rigorous Wikipedia Adventure on their first day, then disappeared for a month before becoming an article creator. The contents are similar in scope, and a bit advertise-y, but I'd appreciate a second opinion as to whether or not they're likely to be created by the same person. One thing that is sort of telling to me, is the reference bloat. Savvy paid editors tend to do this to bolster their notability claims. Newer users tend to not add as many references. Both articles are heavy with the references. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:08, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: I'm not really the best at spotting undisclosed paid editing, and at least some of the previous accounts involved seem to be related to OfficialPankajPatidar, a sockmaster with whom I don't have any experience. But, yeah, I think it looks suspicious. I would probably run it by someone who knows how to identify OfficialPankajPatidar socks. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:07, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
- Understood, thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:59, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I should welcome your comments on the points I have raised on this appeal, please? Just Chilling (talk) 22:34, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
- OK, replied. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:25, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks - can edit now - at least without having to go kick the kids off their computer :)! I was digging deeper, and the last discussion on the topic I see at WP:WikiProject on open proxies/Requests/Archives/30#165.225.0.0/17 User:zzuuzz noted that "ZScaler is no more an open proxy than an ISP cache or a mobile phone." I'm unclear then, what is the basis of such a wide-ranging block. Is there a more recent discussion I've not found? Nfitz (talk) 23:49, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not aware of any other discussions. The "basis" is that it's being used for vandalism. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:00, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Is that documented somewhere? Our company alone must have 10,000 users behind this security provider's IP range ... I'd think the actual number of all companies world-wide would would be in the millions. There might be someone at a given IP number that's gone rogue, but I'd think that if someone was vandalizing something it would be better to block a single IP or a much smaller range. I certainly don't have the powers to IP hop in this range, and I'd assume others are the same. I'd guess that the particular IP causing trouble is at a different client of this security provider - but if it's our company IP, I'd quite happily report this internally as it would violate our ethics guidelines. Nfitz (talk) 00:51, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- I can try lifting the range block in favor of more targeted blocks. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:05, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'm learning a lot about this closed proxy thing tonight - all bafflegarb to me previously! Looks like there's up to 8 million (mostly corporate I'd assume) Zscalar users! I wonder if they all hate it as much as I do (keeps blocking stuff that it shouldn't ...)? :) Nfitz (talk) 01:15, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- I can try lifting the range block in favor of more targeted blocks. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:05, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Is that documented somewhere? Our company alone must have 10,000 users behind this security provider's IP range ... I'd think the actual number of all companies world-wide would would be in the millions. There might be someone at a given IP number that's gone rogue, but I'd think that if someone was vandalizing something it would be better to block a single IP or a much smaller range. I certainly don't have the powers to IP hop in this range, and I'd assume others are the same. I'd guess that the particular IP causing trouble is at a different client of this security provider - but if it's our company IP, I'd quite happily report this internally as it would violate our ethics guidelines. Nfitz (talk) 00:51, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not aware of any other discussions. The "basis" is that it's being used for vandalism. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:00, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Block evasion
See The Knights of Prosperity (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
The block evading IP (77.136...) has returned. Sdmarathe (talk) 12:56, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- I semi-protected everything for 2 months. That should help. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:31, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – October 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2018).
- Justlettersandnumbers • L235
- Bgwhite • HorsePunchKid • J Greb • KillerChihuahua • Rami R • Winhunter
Interface administrator changes
- Cyberpower678 • Deryck Chan • Oshwah • Pharos • Ragesoss • Ritchie333
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- Following a request for comment, the process for appointing interface administrators has been established. Currently only existing admins can request these rights, while a new RfC has begun on whether it should be available to non-admins.
- There is an open request for comment on Meta regarding the creation a new user group for global edit filter management.
- Partial blocks should be available for testing in October on the Test Wikipedia and the Beta-Cluster. This new feature allows admins to block users from editing specific pages and in the near-future, namespaces and uploading files. You can expect more updates and an invitation to help with testing once it is available.
- The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team is currently looking for input on how to measure the effectiveness of blocks. This is in particular related to how they will measure the success of the aforementioned partial blocks.
- Because of a data centre test, you will be able to read but not edit the Wikimedia projects for up to an hour on 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time.
- The Arbitration Committee has, by motion, amended the procedure on functionary inactivity.
- The community consultation for 2018 CheckUser and Oversight appointments has concluded. Appointments will be made by October 11.
- Following a request for comment, the size of the Arbitration Committee will be decreased to 13 arbitrators, starting in 2019. Additionally, the minimum support percentage required to be appointed to a two-year term on ArbCom has been increased to 60%. ArbCom candidates who receive between 50% and 60% support will be appointed to one-year terms instead.
- Nominations for the 2018 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission are being accepted until 12 October. These are the editors who help run the ArbCom election smoothly. If you are interested in volunteering for this role, please consider nominating yourself.
I can see that you are very interested in horror films and I was wondering if you would like to review an article I nominated for GA: Wes Craven's The Hills Have Eyes. Thanks for your consideration!MagicatthemovieS (talk) 17:09, 5 October 2018 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS
- It looks pretty good. I could take a deeper look later. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:02, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- Quick question - another user has decided to comment on the review and has left me with a long list of prose suggestions. If it's alright with you, I am going to focus soey on your critiques as you are the one actually reviewing the article, especially since the other user says that they are asking for more than what a GA review requires.MagicatthemovieS (talk) 14:40, 6 October 2018 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS
- The suggestions are good, but some of them are more FA-level quality. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:56, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- Another user and I are having a major dispute on the Hills talk page; would you be so kind as to resolve it?MagicatthemovieS (talk) 19:56, 6 October 2018 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS
- Yeah, I saw. I'll keep an eye on it. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:01, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- If you are pleased with the article but that other user is not, can the article still achieve GA status?MagicatthemovieS (talk) 20:15, 6 October 2018 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS
- Only the reviewer decides on whether it passes. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:17, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- I can remove the contentious sources or I someone can teach me how to add time stamps. Which appeals to you? Please ping me if you respond.MagicatthemovieS (talk) 21:07, 6 October 2018 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS
- The review is closed. You can start a new one; I'm not going to be involved any further. I don't have time for this drama. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:08, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- I can remove the contentious sources or I someone can teach me how to add time stamps. Which appeals to you? Please ping me if you respond.MagicatthemovieS (talk) 21:07, 6 October 2018 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS
- Only the reviewer decides on whether it passes. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:17, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- If you are pleased with the article but that other user is not, can the article still achieve GA status?MagicatthemovieS (talk) 20:15, 6 October 2018 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS
- Yeah, I saw. I'll keep an eye on it. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:01, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- Another user and I are having a major dispute on the Hills talk page; would you be so kind as to resolve it?MagicatthemovieS (talk) 19:56, 6 October 2018 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS
- The suggestions are good, but some of them are more FA-level quality. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:56, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- Quick question - another user has decided to comment on the review and has left me with a long list of prose suggestions. If it's alright with you, I am going to focus soey on your critiques as you are the one actually reviewing the article, especially since the other user says that they are asking for more than what a GA review requires.MagicatthemovieS (talk) 14:40, 6 October 2018 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS
Reverting edits
Hi, I'm Anonymous6ix9ine. You have reverted my edits on RJ (rapper) multiple times for putting inaccurate information. I have done my research and my information is actually accurate. So, please don't revert my edits unless you have any accurate information yourself. Thank you Anonymous6ix9ine (talk) 19:44, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Anonymous6ix9ine: if you continue to add unsourced content to a biography of a living person, you're going to have your editing privileges revoked. If you want the information to stay, you just need to cite your source. You cited a source for his age, and now that's staying in the article. If you cite a source for his real name, that can stay in the article, too. If you're having trouble finding a source, or you're not sure where to look, maybe I can help you. But, please, stop adding unsourced content to the Wikipedia article. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:28, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
@NinjaRobotPirate unless you have more accurate information than what I've stated, don't come at me. I don't need your help. Thank you
Please comment on Talk:Donald Trump
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Elias
Look believe me or not I was friends with Elias / Jeffrey Sciullo real mom on Facebook his birthday is June 20, 1986 he is 32 if you look him up on people search and his middle name is Daniel look it up on google search type in Jeffrey Daniel Sciullo Jr. if you don’t believe me and the new wwe game has his weight at 222 Alienatarea11 (talk) 19:48, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
I don’t know why you are so rude to block me I am also friends with his grandma on Facebook Alienatarea11 (talk) 19:57, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
I don’t know where you got your info on the birthday but it is June 20, 1986 and his middle name is Daniel Alienatarea11 (talk) 19:59, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Alienatarea11: as an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is built on citations to reliable sources. That means that when someone claims to know "the truth" based on personal knowledge, we can't accept that. This is known as original research, and it is forbidden on Wikipedia. What you need to do is cite a reliable source, such as a newspaper or other news site that has editorial control. Right now, we have a citation to ESPN in the article. If you think their data is wrong, you can propose a change on the article's talk page and include the source that provides verification. I'll save you some time and tell you now that a video game is not a reliable source. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:02, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
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Barnyard sources
Could I ask something about the film Barnyard: The Original Party Animals?
Nickelodeon Movies is not a distributor in any kind, it's just a label within Paramount Pictures (much like with MTV Films). Sometimes the website that's used MIGHT list the wrong company as the distributor as what they say "we all make mistakes". The reason why I added United International Pictures was since the movie was an American/German co-production (as the article says) and UIP still existed at that time.
Reply if you have anything to say about it as I cannot edit any movie page with sources in their production company and distributor, as it will always get reverted, even if the facts are right or wrong. Luigitehplumber (talk) 10:19, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is written according to what the sources say, not what we believe to be true. You can't just remove citations and replace them with unsourced content. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:26, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
If I can, should I find a reliable site like the one that is usually used for movies? But the bad thing is that I don't know any... Luigitehplumber (talk) 20:24, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's often not easy for me to find reliable sources for this stuff, either. That's one of the reasons why I lean so heavily on AFI. They are authoritative for American films, and they clearly indicate who did what. I used to use Baseline, but I can't find any way to access their database for free any more. AllMovie might be OK to use; I don't know. They seems reliable. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:34, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
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The Kid Who Would Be King
Would you mind taking a look at the recent edits on this article and tell me if you think it's the same block-evading sock you reverted back in May. There's something about his hysterical response in his edit summary that sounds familiar. Thanks! ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 00:53, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- It's possible, but I don't think so. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:20, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- Can you elaborate? Is it because of the difference in the IP address? ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 13:15, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- They live in the same country, but they're on different ISPs. They're also edit warring over unrelated things in the same article. So, there are similarities, but it seems more like coincidence to me. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:18, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- If the new one starts edit warring over countries in the infobox, I'll block him. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:22, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- Ok, makes sense. Thanks. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 22:35, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- Can you elaborate? Is it because of the difference in the IP address? ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 13:15, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
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I was wondering if you would review a very short article for a horror film: Born Villain.MagicatthemovieS (talk) 03:35, 22 October 2018 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS
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A barnstar for you!
The Barnstar of Diligence | |
Thanks for helping me on my IP unblock! Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 04:37, 23 October 2018 (UTC) |
Hello! This user has been repeatedly removing an item from the current events portal, and I noticed that you warned them. They continued to do so afterwards, so I thought I'd let you know, as they're beginning to get a bit irritating. Thank you! Icarosaurvus (talk) 19:03, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
- I think they are back, under 190.82.51.91; The IP in question removed the same item with an almost identical edit summary. Thanks again. Icarosaurvus (talk) 05:48, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Icarosaurvus: yeah, almost certainly the same person. It looks like they've been doing this for a while, actually. Check out this blanking in January 2017 and this blanking in January 2018. Let me know if you see any more blanking on portal pages. I think I can do a range block if it gets bad enough. It seems like a harsh solution if it's just someone intermittently blanking this one news item, though. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:05, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- Aye, thanks! I tried to invite them to the talk page earlier to discuss, but it didn't seem to take. I'm also not sure a range block is the answer; It'd be unfortunate for anyone unrelated to get caught up in it. Worst case, I guess a longer-term protection of the page might work; I think it's been done in the past when a large number of linked IPs decided to blank things on Current Events, but even that's suboptimal. The whole thing strikes me as a bit odd, truth be told. Thanks again for looking into it. Icarosaurvus (talk) 07:44, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- I think I came across another odd one; 2600:8800:FF0E:1200:504A:F75F:C9AB:5DDC. I went and checked on the news item after it had been unprotected, and it seems this user went straight for it, supposedly to remove bias. I honestly have no idea if they're connected to the first; I think I remember seeing them about at the same time, but I thought I'd bring it up to someone who knows their stuff. (As a social scientist, my knowledge of IP addresses is more or less "they're strings of (sometimes hexadecimal) numbers, right?", so I could simply be wasting your time.) Thanks again! Icarosaurvus (talk) 04:43, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, I thought that was pretty suspicious, too. But it looks unrelated to the original IP. There are a couple websites where you can punch in IP addresses, and they'll give you a fair approximation of where it's located. There's one linked from Special:Contributions with the "Geolocate" link. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:25, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
- Oh, thanks! That's very useful to know. On a related note, I tried it out! I found another IP that just blanked the item (190.82.54.122), and checked on some of the other IPs that had blanked it, and they all seem to be from Chile. Icarosaurvus (talk) 06:05, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
- I did a range block. There doesn't seem to be anyone else using this IP range lately. If the blanker comes back under a different IP, I guess we can try semi-protection again. It seems like there are a few other IP editors who want to edit the portal page, though. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 11:36, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
- Oh, thanks! That's very useful to know. On a related note, I tried it out! I found another IP that just blanked the item (190.82.54.122), and checked on some of the other IPs that had blanked it, and they all seem to be from Chile. Icarosaurvus (talk) 06:05, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, I thought that was pretty suspicious, too. But it looks unrelated to the original IP. There are a couple websites where you can punch in IP addresses, and they'll give you a fair approximation of where it's located. There's one linked from Special:Contributions with the "Geolocate" link. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:25, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
- I think I came across another odd one; 2600:8800:FF0E:1200:504A:F75F:C9AB:5DDC. I went and checked on the news item after it had been unprotected, and it seems this user went straight for it, supposedly to remove bias. I honestly have no idea if they're connected to the first; I think I remember seeing them about at the same time, but I thought I'd bring it up to someone who knows their stuff. (As a social scientist, my knowledge of IP addresses is more or less "they're strings of (sometimes hexadecimal) numbers, right?", so I could simply be wasting your time.) Thanks again! Icarosaurvus (talk) 04:43, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
- Aye, thanks! I tried to invite them to the talk page earlier to discuss, but it didn't seem to take. I'm also not sure a range block is the answer; It'd be unfortunate for anyone unrelated to get caught up in it. Worst case, I guess a longer-term protection of the page might work; I think it's been done in the past when a large number of linked IPs decided to blank things on Current Events, but even that's suboptimal. The whole thing strikes me as a bit odd, truth be told. Thanks again for looking into it. Icarosaurvus (talk) 07:44, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Icarosaurvus: yeah, almost certainly the same person. It looks like they've been doing this for a while, actually. Check out this blanking in January 2017 and this blanking in January 2018. Let me know if you see any more blanking on portal pages. I think I can do a range block if it gets bad enough. It seems like a harsh solution if it's just someone intermittently blanking this one news item, though. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:05, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
BLDM
I would encourage you to review BLDM's latest actions. WP:DUCK... Once is coincidence, twice in a month's time is a pattern. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:28, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
- If you think there's strong enough evidence, you could file a report at WP:SPI, but my read of the technical evidence was that they're in different countries. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:24, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
- Oh I opened one. I'm not talking about the initial case, there is a new one. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:33, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
Robert Kazinsky
How can the DOB not be right if other websites say that's his DOB? (I even did include sources for his DOB, which I'm now aware how to do) Ofcdeadbeat (talk) 21:12, 23 October 2018 (UTC)Ofcdeadbeat
- @Ofcdeadbeat: in a biography of a living person, we have higher requirements for sourcing. That means the sources we cite have to be of the highest quality and known for their fact-checking. Random websites are not reliable sources for biographical information. The IMDb, for example, is user-generated and thus not allowed as a source for a biography of a living person. Public documents are primary sources and not allowed, either. Self-published blogs are also not allowed, unless they are written by the subject of the article. If they came from him, we could cite a post on Twitter or Facebook (for example), but we can't cite social media/blogs/etc otherwise. Generally, newspapers and magazines are reliable sources, but you have to watch out for tabloids. If you find a reliable source, you can cite it via
<ref>...</ref>
tags. For example:<ref>http://www.example.com/</ref>
. You can see more instructions at WP:REFB. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:01, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
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It appears I struck a cord when I fixed their overtly spammy fluff piece by adding relevant information detailing Gajera's well covered charges. That being said, I initially was going to take it to AFD but I believe it would survive due to the coverage he's received over the last decade outside of just the crimes but I wanted to check with you and see if it's okay to move it back into main space? And if so, can it be protected to prevent the continued vandalism from Idigitalsindia? Rarely am I the one to advocate for keeping a spam piece but I think I can turn it around (he's also one of the top wealthiest people in India, apparently.) Praxidicae (talk) 12:55, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, I figured the community could decide how to handle this, so I didn't really do much but revert the most overt disruption (moving it to some weird namespace and blanking it). Sure, I'd say it's fine to move it back to main space. I could do that and semi-protect it. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:07, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
not sure
If this is okay. —usernamekiran(talk) 13:35, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
ygm
Re: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Huff slush7264. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:08, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- Heh, and Bbb23 seems to have dealt with it while I was emailing. Thanks to both of you TonyBallioni (talk) 16:14, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- @TonyBallioni: you forgot me! see the thread right above this one —usernamekiran(talk) 22:33, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- I dunno, maybe I was kind of part of the problem. I thought that maybe if I gave a warning, it would bring him to his senses. It seems like my warning was too wishy-washy, and maybe he was emboldened by receiving so weak of a warning. I sometimes feel like I've already hit my quota of indefinite blocks for the day, you know? I probably should have told him that he was pushing up against an indefinite block once someone else found out about his shenanigans. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:29, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- @TonyBallioni: you forgot me! see the thread right above this one —usernamekiran(talk) 22:33, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
Alex scan
Got two, one I've been sitting on for a while. Same topic focuses. The new one is doing middle name BLP edits on same topics as before. Chef BACONator! and Sarah Maxyne -- ferret (talk) 01:26, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
- Wow. You really hit the jackpot this time. All Confirmed to AlexanderHovanec (talk · contribs): Chef BACONator!, Girl from Ohio, Messiboy123, Taki88, Neet Kijaab, Soldier soldier soldier 666, O! DAPPER !o, Heiselswiffner4543, 2-chen, Sarah Maxyne, IHeSheMe, Venom on my TONGUE, Ghuols, A Software Man, Morgantalley. Crazy. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:52, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
- Mmmmm, sleepers. I waited a bit on Baconator per your instructions. -- ferret (talk) 02:00, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
- Actually, I think I was kind of dumb to say that – because it didn't help. This was such an easy run that I probably just made more work for myself! Just give me a message when you find them, and I'll do a sleeper check. I thought I'd get something useful out of having this much data, but it turns out that it's just hitting me over the head with the obviousness. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:19, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
- Roger. I noticed Baconator right away, because of the edit count gaming to avoid the sockpuppetry lock. -- ferret (talk) 13:36, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
- Actually, I think I was kind of dumb to say that – because it didn't help. This was such an easy run that I probably just made more work for myself! Just give me a message when you find them, and I'll do a sleeper check. I thought I'd get something useful out of having this much data, but it turns out that it's just hitting me over the head with the obviousness. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:19, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
- Mmmmm, sleepers. I waited a bit on Baconator per your instructions. -- ferret (talk) 02:00, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Two more possible hits: Queenofmylife 18 and Black horsecherry221. -- ferret (talk) 12:06, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- Queenofmylife 18 looks totally Unrelated. Black horsecherry221, KoolCatGunna, Coalmining for coal, and PapaDosEquis are all Confirmed to AlexanderHovanec. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:42, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
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xXx film series
I just created The H Collective and as a result of that, edited XXX (film series). From what I can tell, sources (recent ones, anyway) use xXx instead of XXX. It seems like it would be more appropriate to follow that stylization in the long run. Do you think it's worth requesting a move? I suppose we should also consider the individual film articles themselves in such a request. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 13:10, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Erik: I think they were at one point under the "xXx" name but got moved. I don't really have an opinion on the stylization, but if they were to be moved, it seems like a bundled requested move would probably be the best way to do it. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:13, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Correct claim
Astroworld by travis scott has received critical acclaim with the metascore of 85 out of 100. I dunno why you don't want to accept it and call it unsourced claim!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kayhamed (talk • contribs) 19:12, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Kayhamed: this is explained in the link I gave you, about puffery. If you at least cite the claim, that will be one hurdle resolved. After that, I suppose it can be made more neutral if necessary. I personally don't like using Metacritic without in-text attribution. This is because we can't know whether the reviews Metacritic cataloged are truly representative. Metacritic's score may be true of the reviews they cataloged, but it can't be extrapolated to all reviews. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:01, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
- @NinjaRobotPirate: I still think you stop me to note astroworld as an critically acclaimed album because of personal intentions. If you don't like him doesn't mean he should be labelled the way you like. otherwise, if I'm still wrong, there are a lot of other pages for other artists such as robyn, bell & sebastian and a lot more that contain the same issue you picked on me for. they must be deleted too if so.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kayhamed (talk • contribs) 14:10, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- I have no clue what kind of music he makes. Many articles are written poorly, but that doesn't mean we should let poorly-written content slip through without fixing it. I told you what to do: cite the claim. Preferably, you would also use in-text attribution. The point is that Wikipedia is written neutrally and requires sources – not whether some random person received "critical acclaim". NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:22, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
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RE: Unsourced birth dates
I added it from Wikidata. Next time I'll use a reliable source. Thanks. Tajotep (talk) 08:33, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Tajotep: you shouldn't copy content from Wikidata into Wikipedia (or vice versa). Neither site is a reliable source. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:52, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
ANI complaint
You placed a comment about an ANI complaint on my talk page. That complaint appears to be in retaliation for a complaint at ANI that I placed earlier in the day. Somebody may be using you. Your comment is off the mark. All I did was place a message on the talk pages of Jimbo Wales and Larry Sanger requesting THEIR comments on a proposal for a new project. Jimbo Wales talk page contains a permanent banner inviting such messages be placed on his talk page, but User: Guy Macon deleted my message summarily, without discussion, just as I was completing it. It seems to me that that was uncivil and certainly contrary to the stated wishes of Jimbo Wales. Since then, the same editor, Guy Macon, has been following me around Wikipedia placing derogatory comments on every page on which I made an edit. I believe that constitutes stalking, or what may now be called harassment. Please take a look at the ANI complaints posted prior to the one you responded to and see if this is correct. Mervyn Emrys (talk) 19:43, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
- And with regards to your final statement, you will be better informed if you take a look at my user page as well. Mervyn Emrys (talk) 19:59, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Mervyn Emrys: you've never posted to WP:ANI, so I don't see how it's retaliatory. You can respond to the ANI complaint at WP:ANI#Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Mervyn Emrys/sandbox. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:54, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
- Perhaps you need to take another look at my explanation on the complaint page. Mervyn Emrys (talk) 07:59, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
- In response to your comment on the ANI Complaint page: I am not trying to do anything anymore on Wikipedia. All I ever did try to do was solicit comments and suggestions for a draft project proposal. I did not create an article for it. I did not edit any other article on that topic. And, as I explained elsewhere, I did not file an ANI complaint (although I thought I had) because I opted instead to request assistance on the WP:Dispute Resolution page from another editor, thinking that to be a better place to start. Both options are listed in a box on the same page. I guess some will think I should be condemned for that along with every thing else. Wikipedia has changed a great deal since the last time I edited actively here about 10 years ago, and the behavior towards me since a couple days ago suggests the changes have not been for the better. There appears to be more hostility, more arbitrary action without discussion, and considerably less WP:Civility than previously. The emphasis on collegial discussion has all but disappeared. That is sad, and a loss for Wikipedia and all who edit here. Mervyn Emrys (talk) 23:58, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Mervyn Emrys: some of Wikipedia's policies are wide-ranging enough that they affect any edit to the site, not just articles. But, yeah, Wikipedia has changed a lot in the past 10 years. I think many of the changes were for the better, because they put more emphasis on verifiability, neutrality, and notability. As a result, though, it means that Wikipedia has become more bureaucratic and rules-bound. It's probably a lot easier now to get into trouble. Plus, after 10 years, it's difficult to maintain the same degree of patience when dealing with recurring issues. I think maybe you got a taste of that, which probably does come across as unnecessarily hostile. But Wikipedia as a whole generally isn't this bad. You hapened to rapidly hit several of our most drama-prone boards, unfortunately. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:58, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
- In response to your comment on the ANI Complaint page: I am not trying to do anything anymore on Wikipedia. All I ever did try to do was solicit comments and suggestions for a draft project proposal. I did not create an article for it. I did not edit any other article on that topic. And, as I explained elsewhere, I did not file an ANI complaint (although I thought I had) because I opted instead to request assistance on the WP:Dispute Resolution page from another editor, thinking that to be a better place to start. Both options are listed in a box on the same page. I guess some will think I should be condemned for that along with every thing else. Wikipedia has changed a great deal since the last time I edited actively here about 10 years ago, and the behavior towards me since a couple days ago suggests the changes have not been for the better. There appears to be more hostility, more arbitrary action without discussion, and considerably less WP:Civility than previously. The emphasis on collegial discussion has all but disappeared. That is sad, and a loss for Wikipedia and all who edit here. Mervyn Emrys (talk) 23:58, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Regarding the edits on the Shrek the Third page...
- Sorry about that. The reason I swapped the source in the first place was because AFI listed DreamWorks Animation as a distributor, which was completely incorrect. Paramount Pictures was the sole distributor of the film (until 2014), so I used a source for the Shrek the Third page that reflects this. Just wanted to clear that up. IceWalrus236 (talk) 14:02, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
- @IceWalrus236: I'm sorry for getting so irritable about this. I'm just tired of having to restore citations. Please see WP:TRUTH. Many people think they know "the truth". Maybe they're right, and maybe they're wrong. But Wikipedia is written according to what the sources say, not what we believe to be true. When sources disagree with each other, WP:V says we should "
maintain a neutral point of view and present what the various sources say, giving each side its due weight.
" If there are problems that need to be resolved, like due weight or incorrect content, that should probably be raised on the talk page with evidence. Then we can establish consensus to remove the content. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:55, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
- @IceWalrus236: I'm sorry for getting so irritable about this. I'm just tired of having to restore citations. Please see WP:TRUTH. Many people think they know "the truth". Maybe they're right, and maybe they're wrong. But Wikipedia is written according to what the sources say, not what we believe to be true. When sources disagree with each other, WP:V says we should "
Block evasion
On October 3rd, you blocked 79.140.208.93 for block evasion, per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/MyNameIsASDF/Archive. The IP's block was lifted this week, and they immediately resumed editing. Their edits are concerned with production companies and nationalities, and the very second edit [4] was on an article that was heavily edited in the past--all quacks confirming that it's the same user continuing to evade their block. Grandpallama (talk) 16:04, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for noticing that. Blocked for 3 months this time. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:56, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks! Grandpallama (talk) 18:13, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
Quick check
Based on edit note patterns, similar editing time frames, and shared interests, could you check Ameera Patel and TaimurAlsaid? -- ferret (talk) 02:30, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
- Confirmed to each other. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:21, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
ARBCOM?
Hi NinjaRobotPirate, would you consider running for ArbCom? You're a quiet but extremely effective admin, extremely wiki-knowledgeable and adept at neutrally analyzing a problem situation and applying the correct solution, fairly. These are exactly the traits needed in an Arb. Would you consider serving? The deadline is in a couple of days. Thank you. Softlavender (talk) 09:31, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for the compliment, but arbcom seems like it would probably be bureaucratic, a bit boring, and a lot of work. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 11:50, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
Watchlist
Would you mind terribly keeping tabs on the Ronin (film) article? I don't think TheOldJacobite will be watching this article anytime soon, as he has left the project for some reason. Tks, Slightlymad (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:34, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
- I think we all reach our quota of frustration at some point and need a break from Wikipedia. I sometimes bring topics to WT:FILM when they need outside views, like a content dispute that's going nowhere. But if there's disruption to the article, I can try to keep an eye on it. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:24, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi there. I see you were the last to edit Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Dragonrap2/Archive. I'm sure this editor is a new sock. This vandal has created many hours of cleanup in the past. Would you have a moment to check it? Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 18:40, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, that looks like him. Blocked. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:23, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
- I've been chasing him for years. Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 20:08, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
Requested block
221.126.224.68 (talk) 03:29, 13 November 2018 (UTC) May you please infinitely block this IP? there is a high chance of evasion on this IP, and that IP is a school. I request a {{schoolblock}} on this IP, but may you still allow account creation on this IP? 221.126.224.68 (talk) 03:29, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Unsourced summarisation of reviews for "Kill the Moon"
Hi. We have been discussing about this topic for a while on the article's talk page. There have been no solution/conclusion, yet editor AlexTheWhovian keeps adding unsourced info. Can you take a look at this? Sebastian James (talk) 12:09, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- I think the best thing to do is to take it to WP:NORN, which is what I suggested. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:37, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Speedy2165 investigation
I reverted your removal of the Checkuser application because we have a new sock that is yet to be checked out. The original CU doesn't take that into account. Footy Freak7 (talk) 05:05, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Footy Freak7: do not change the status of SPI cases. Only SPI clerks, checkusers, and (in some cases) admins are allowed to do so. Do not change the status of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Speedy2169 again. This screws with the records and makes it harder for us checkusers to tell what has happened in the case. You should also not modify the case after a check has been done; this makes it even harder for us to tell who was checked, and what the results were. If you want someone else checked, open a new case. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:08, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Okay I'm sorry about that. I've opened the new case with the check user and transferred the evidence accordingly. I hope this is okay. Footy Freak7 (talk) 09:23, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks
Hey there, thanks for your help on my ANI thing. I was going to create an SPI case (which I would then close). How do you interpret this account? Was this a user name-change or something? The Krishnapaduka account doesn't have a creation date. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:04, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: I'm pretty sure that's what happens when you use Special:CreateAccount. Krishnapaduka didn't create an account; it was created for him by Manavatha. So, only Manavatha gets the log entry. If that doesn't make sense, it's wiki magic. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:38, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
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Re the block you issued following
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
... this discussion at AN/I, which was closed before I saw it. And pinging @Oshawott 12:
At Gmail, the IPs were correctly adding the [[Category:Gmail| ]]
space sortkey to the main article category, as per WP:SORTKEY bullet point 2. The first time, they used an brief explanatory edit summary. The registered editor repeatedly removed that sortkey. I'm sure both you as blocking admin and the registered but inexperienced editor concerned were acting in good faith. For all I know, the anons may have been involved in vandalism or edit-warring elsewhere, and edit-warring is wrong whether you're in the right or not... But at Gmail, they were in the right and the registered editor was unaware of the relevant bit of MoS. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:10, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Struway2: the article's talk page would be the place to raise content issues or argue your point. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:26, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- If it had been my point, I hope I'd have linked to the MoS in my edit summary when first adding the sortkey, or if not and I'd been reverted, then gone and explained to the reverter at their talk page what I was doing and why. Would have avoided the whole drama board thing in the first (or at least second) place. We learn. Thing is, in recent times I've seen an increasing amount of anons and new editors being reverted just because, and possibly chose the wrong instance to over-react to ;-) cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:01, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Struway2: I have no idea what you're talking about. As I hinted to you before, please take your issues to the article's talk page. Thank you. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:10, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- If it had been my point, I hope I'd have linked to the MoS in my edit summary when first adding the sortkey, or if not and I'd been reverted, then gone and explained to the reverter at their talk page what I was doing and why. Would have avoided the whole drama board thing in the first (or at least second) place. We learn. Thing is, in recent times I've seen an increasing amount of anons and new editors being reverted just because, and possibly chose the wrong instance to over-react to ;-) cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:01, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
82.0.93.231
82.0.93.231 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
Not sure who this editor is, but they've recently been editing disruptively again since your previous CU-blocks. Thanks. 184.22.157.70 (talk) 18:36, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Looks like a generic vandal to me. I can block the IP if it continues being disruptive. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 18:57, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
Page protection
Hi, can you protect the NFL on Thanksgiving Day page? It's been targeted by spammers [5][6][7]. Thanks. -KH-1 (talk) 01:18, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for resolving the issue about User:Michge. As for possible block evasion, there's an SPI on numerous IP users that are closely related to his activity. - Areaseven (talk) 11:25, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- That's a lot of IP addresses. Honestly, when a case has that many accounts/IPs to look at, it does kind of turn me off. Also, those IP addresses geolocate to various continents, and several of the IPs have gotten into edit wars with Michge. It seems a bit messy. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 18:09, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
The word count in my edition Goodfellas is (... edited: my mistake ... )
Yet you say it's over 700. You may want learn how to count before leaving any more messages in my talk page or reverting my edits. If you would like to experiment, please use a proper word count in your editor. Thank you. CodeInconnu (talk) 20:54, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- @CodeInconnu: your plot summary is 785 words. The one I reverted to is 645. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:58, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- You were right, used the wrong word counter. CodeInconnu (talk) 21:31, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- It happens to everyone. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:42, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- You were right, used the wrong word counter. CodeInconnu (talk) 21:31, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
Padmakalki
Hi. Re this, the latest one appears to be Baniwadia. Cheers. -- Begoon 12:31, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- Confirmed. Thanks for noticing that. No sleepers this time, though. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:31, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- Try Meerakom. -- Begoon 06:36, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
- Three of a kind: Confirmed, plus two more sleepers. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:05, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
- Try Meerakom. -- Begoon 06:36, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
☺️ flattered
Awe thank you for such a sweet welcome page that I just found😁 And those cookies 2 (even though I can't actually eat them😂)? You're so sweet😇 Wish I found it sooner😉 — Preceding unsigned comment added by GOLDIEM J (talk • contribs) 09:28, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
"Original Research"
Greetings,
You recently reverted an edit I made on a page citing that it was "original research". This, according to Wikipedia itself, is incorrect, as the film in question grossed significantly over it's production value during its worldwide theatrical run. It is even acknowledged as such in the film page itself: "...grossed $77 million in the United States and Canada and $222.4 million in other territories for a worldwide total of $299.5 million, against a production budget of $170 million."
I have no intention of starting an edit war over such an insignificant issue, however I fully consider the statement displayed to be wrong. 181.47.24.85 (talk) 03:17, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter whether a film grossed more than its budget. Such a simplistic calculation is not how such things are determined. See, for example, this article, which describes how it's possible to gross more than your budget and still end up being a bomb. Regardless, we have a source that says it was a bomb; your personal analysis – in other words, original research – can not trump what a reliable source says. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:22, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Satoshi Hino
Eh excuse me, it's true that the Satoshi Hino's second name is Robert, because the IMDB and other web references are still everywhere, but in Japanese Wikipedia there does not say the full name of a person and the searches on the Internet are sent by invented data without sources that say that. Debiit continues to add the same data without references and makes incorrect reversions in the pages of Japanese voice actors in several languages and insists on adding them with sources that are no longer useful, but he does not listen to us and we corrected him several times in case he does not believe me, check the view history here, here and here.
Thanks. 148.101.52.104 (talk) 19:44, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
- Blocked for adding unsourced content. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:12, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
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86.170.34.216
Hello NRP. 86.170.34.216 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has just come off a month block from yourself - I can't find the specifics of what it was for, just that it was a checkuser block as per the log. Anyway they seem to have gone straight back to their previous disruptive edit-warring (there's a request at WP:RFPP). I'm inclined to just block the IP again for another 3 months as it seems static but I thought I'd best check with you as there may be something else going on I don't know about. Cheers, Fish+Karate 13:20, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's the same person. I hard blocked it for 3 months. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:26, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
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After the page creator had been warned multiple times (by me and you), I reduced it to a RS-sourced stub and removed the image from the infobox (given its questionable copyright status). Despite warnings about unsourced changes, the page creator has now returned and changed a correct bit of information (sourced to RS) to an incorrect bit of information, and has re-added the dubious image. I'm going to fix that now, but a non-admin leaving another warning for the user seems pointless, so I'm hoping you can take a look. Thanks. Bakazaka (talk) 21:53, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Bakazaka: it might be best to raise this at WP:ANI and see what uninvolved admins think – preferably ones that are more familiar with our image policies than me. I don't spend much time in that area. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:03, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
- I guess my concern was more about the page creator re-adding unsourced material (that specifically contradicted the cited source) after being repeatedly warned not to add unsourced content. I suspect the uploaded image will be deleted soon enough by copyvio watchers, given the history of uploaded image warnings on that user's talk page. Thanks for taking a look. Bakazaka (talk) 23:09, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) With regards to the image, I uploaded a clearer version and corrected the licensing on the file page with rationale for use as a non-free logo, per WP:NFC. It can be annoying when uploaders don't do this correctly themselves, but image licensing on wikipedia is complex, so when they don't understand it is preferable to fix it for them/help them understand rather than remove/delete images from articles. Non-free use is strictly limited, but logos of organisations like this is one area where it can be appropriate, and is common. Thanks. -- Begoon 01:42, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- I guess my concern was more about the page creator re-adding unsourced material (that specifically contradicted the cited source) after being repeatedly warned not to add unsourced content. I suspect the uploaded image will be deleted soon enough by copyvio watchers, given the history of uploaded image warnings on that user's talk page. Thanks for taking a look. Bakazaka (talk) 23:09, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello! I was disturbed today by your reversal here : [8], so I tried to mend the pieces in a new version of the “translation” paragraph, and I hope you'll keep it. You have described your revision as anti-«blog quality»; the quality of a «blog post» is not always as low as you think: books also tend be of low quality, yet no one says “book quality” to describe some poor choice of words. #sorry However, I agree that the quality of this paragraph was dubious, and needed work... I feel the version you supported is inadequate though, as it speaks only to Latin experts, and the goal here is to enlighten the people who can't read Latin. (And in fact, I actually read Latin quite often, but I was dumbfounded by this whole system of bilingual puns called Dog Latin.) Have a good evening. Nucleos (talk) 14:23, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia written in formal language; this means that informal writing and extended guides that teach students to understand some obscure pun don't belong here. The new addition seems better written and more appropriate. However, the best thing to do if you want your content to stay on Wikipedia is to cite and summarize a reliable source. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:49, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello NinjaRobotPirate. I was dumbfounded when I read “Wikipedia is an encyclopedia written in formal language” -- it may seem a technicality, but contrary to what you wrote, WP:MoS decrees “Plain English works best. Avoid ambiguity, jargon, and vague or unnecessarily complex wording.” It seems to me this is the opposite of a “formal language”, which points at some unnecessary seriousness. (Another part of WP:MoS reads: “Texts should be written for everyday readers, not just for academics.”) On the other hand, you are quite right that this article would need a good source rather than Wikipedians' input. Alas, on this precise topic, there might not be a good source... I would not be too shocked if you suggested the page should be altogether erased. (Especially when I look at what links there...) I was just surprised by your erasing a good explanation (though amateurish) in favour of a technical and snob-ish incomprehensible blabber. (Pardon my French.) I still disagree with your revert -- but I see your point now. I see your point and respect it, and I thank you for not reverting everything immediately. Nucleos (talk) 22:28, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
Children's Lit WikiProject
Hi. I'm Barkeep49 and I am working to re-establish the Children's literature WikiProejct as an active project. It seems like you might be interested in (re)joining. If so I would encourage you to add your name back to the active members list. If you have any questions feel free to leave me a talk page message or ping me here. Otherwise I hope to see you around the project. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:23, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you.
Hi. I finally got unblocked and I wanted to make sure I came by to let you know and to thank you for leaving the story about your prior experience on my talk page during my ANI. So, thanks for taking the time to do that! It means a lot to me. Huggums537 (talk) 16:41, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Huggums537: congratulations on being unblocked. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:50, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
Quick check on obvious "its my brother" duck
Sameem123 and Seyer123. Enough time has been wasted on Sameem's bad appeals. @331dot: FYI. -- ferret (talk) 19:20, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Ferret I've just blocked him as it's an obvious sock. Pinging in Just Chilling, you blocked Sameem123 on UTRS under ticket 23440. I'd say it's highly likely that Seyer123 will now go down that route given Sameem123's previous behaviour. I don't know if you need to do anything on UTRS. I'll certainly keep an eye out there meantime.-- 5 albert square (talk) 20:14, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- FYI NinjaRobotPirate I've also tagged the sockpuppet, I'll leave the decision up to you if you want to run a CheckUser on this.-- 5 albert square (talk) 20:58, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- I could try for a range block if more sock puppets show up, but it seems pretty much handled now. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:26, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- @5 albert square: I blocked Sameem123 from UTRS until the end of their SO period. However, my tool does not allow me to block someone who has not submitted an UTRS appeal. If Seyer123 does appeal at UTRS then they should be referred to Tool Admin for a similar block. Just Chilling (talk) 00:10, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks all. -- ferret (talk) 16:01, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- @5 albert square: I blocked Sameem123 from UTRS until the end of their SO period. However, my tool does not allow me to block someone who has not submitted an UTRS appeal. If Seyer123 does appeal at UTRS then they should be referred to Tool Admin for a similar block. Just Chilling (talk) 00:10, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- I could try for a range block if more sock puppets show up, but it seems pretty much handled now. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:26, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- FYI NinjaRobotPirate I've also tagged the sockpuppet, I'll leave the decision up to you if you want to run a CheckUser on this.-- 5 albert square (talk) 20:58, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
Found another sock of the JRV guy.
see User:JARVBT321787. 7_qz (⑨'s contributions) 15:26, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- But he did wish me a merry christmas : User talk:7_qz 7_qz (⑨'s contributions) 15:40, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Quick check
This one comes from AIV, asking for a block for unsourced editing on AGNARUTO, who began editing after a 3 month block was placed on Decemberboyl and appears to follow the exact same patterns, and even made a "little brother" claim. This seems like an open and shut duck case and I don't really understand why it wasn't duck blocked in September. Can you check? -- ferret (talk) 15:56, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Ferret: it's too late to run a CU on Decemberboyl; the data went stale a few days ago. I don't know what went on there, either. It would have been interesting to see the data myself. Sometimes the CU data is a little confusing, and you end up giving people the benefit of the doubt if they're not actively doing anything disruptive. I guess you could ask Jpgordon, the last CU to handle the case. It looks like he might have seen something extenuating or maybe was in a good mood that day. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:06, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
- I decided to call it a duck and indef both. AGNARUTO is editing the same article space, with the same bad unsourced edits. -- ferret (talk) 01:20, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's always an option, too. Well, he can make an unblock request, though I doubt "it was my little brother" will work twice. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:26, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
- I decided to call it a duck and indef both. AGNARUTO is editing the same article space, with the same bad unsourced edits. -- ferret (talk) 01:20, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Merry Merry
Happy Christmas! | ||
Hello NinjaRobotPirate, Early in A Child's Christmas in Wales the young Dylan and his friend Jim Prothero witness smoke pouring from Jim's home. After the conflagration has been extinguished Dylan writes that My thanks to you for your efforts to keep the 'pedia readable in case the firemen chose one of our articles :-) Best wishes to you and yours and happy editing in 2019. MarnetteD|Talk 19:22, 19 December 2018 (UTC) |
Kei Shindō
Hello again, remember when you sanctioned Debiit with an expiration time of 31 hours for repeatedly adding the birthdates of Japanese voice actors without indicating the sources that say it, because he went back to doing his own and recently he just undid that revision made on the Kei Shindō's page which violated the Biographies of living persons where an administrator warned him several times that he did not do it his way without reaching an agreement with the IPs that in fact realized something that the Japanese voice actresses were born day and month, but the year not because it is unknown, and they have explained the same thing in his discussion page on the subject there in Spanish Wikipedia, however he never understood the importance of how to reference himself and now he says that another IP removes said date of birth if they themselves have shown that they have never done vandalism pages in different languages but continued with its reversals for no reason.
Well you say if we review all these articles in several languages and see the difference, you are for example:
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei_Shindō
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/真堂圭
https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/신도_케이
https://ast.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chie_Nakamura
https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/تشي_ناكامورا
https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chie_Nakamura
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/中村千绘
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chie_Nakamura
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masako_Katsuki
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masako_Katsuki
https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masako_Katsuki
https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/ماساكو_كاتسكي
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masako_Katsuki
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Кацуки,_Масако
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/勝生真沙子
https://ast.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chika_Anzai
https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/تشيكا_أنزاي
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chika_Anzai
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/安濟知佳
Thanks.--148.0.124.17 (talk) 04:11, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
- Blocked for 3 days. Unfortunately, if Debiit is doing this on other language Wikipedias, there isn't much that English Wikipedia administrators can do. You could ask a Steward for advice, though. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:37, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hello again, it is time to revoke access to your discussion page because I have finished talking with him. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Debiit#December_2018
Thanks. 148.101.48.102 (talk) 20:50, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Only the Brave (2017 film)
I just saw where in October you deleted the ages of the names of the men who died fighting the fire. What happened to "Be Bold". These were not fictional characters. The actors represented real men. The ages were added to the end credits along side of the picture of each man who died fighting that forest fire. Part of the tragedy was the number of dead and their ages. I am not sure you watched the movie. No need to respond. Eschoryii (talk) 13:21, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
- Surprisingly, Wikipedia does allow people to edit articles even if they're not members of the topic's official fan club. As for what happened to "be bold", it looks like I was bold in removing what I considered trivia. If you think this belongs in the article, the best place to start a discussion would be on the article's talk page. Or just add it back. It's not like I care all that much. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:40, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Xmas
Merry Christmas!
Huggums537 (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!
Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas2}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
Thank you for all of your help on Wikipaedia! Huggums537 (talk) 21:32, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Joeymiskulin is at it again
Heads up to anyone who might care to help handle the situation: Joeymiskulin is vandalizing numerous television series articles again after just coming off of a block. I believe he has been blocked twice for this sort of behavior. AlexTheWhovian and I have tried to clean up after him in the past but some help would be nice. I believe you had blocked him in the past so I thought you might take a look at his edit history from the last few hours. Thanks, BoogerD (talk) 04:13, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi, this user seems to have revealed personal information in his first edit summary. JACKINTHEBOX • TALK 12:52, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
- It might be a bit of an overreaction, but I deleted the edit summary. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:07, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Don't know which
But Captcha125 is clearly someone block evading. Any thoughts? -- ferret (talk) 22:14, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not sure... seems to be leading us to an obvious conclusion based on this edit, but the geolocation is wrong. I think I'll give a WP:NOTHERE block instead of wasting an hour on some wild goose chase through every IP range allocated to this ISP. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:27, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
For info
Incase the ping didn't work, I mentioned you here. And I hope you had a good Christmas, and have a great 2019. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:33, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for the well-wishes; I hope your holidays were good, too. I've re-blocked one of the IPs. I can't comment on who was using the IP, but it seems to be the same person as before. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:30, 30 December 2018 (UTC)