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On 27 October 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ganna (seeress), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The entry was: ... that the early Germanic priestess Ganna may have been named for her magic staff?. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ganna (seeress). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ganna (seeress)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 04:39, 28 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

You are a drastic achiver. Here I wanted to thank you for the DYK for Ganna (seeress), and you archived already. It's also featured on Portal:Germany (where I put everything remotely related to Germany, see? I liked reading your user page. You said Wikipedia was more convivial once. How about reviving that spirit? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 27 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

I haven't archived the notification for the DYK. The fact that my DYK appeared on the front page was skipped and ignored.--Berig (talk) 04:32, 28 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

I see, and now it came and I moved my post. It wasn't ignored by the readers, making the stats (right above a cute production of teh gang)! - I'll have In Freundschaft in the next DYK set, GA mostly by Jerome Kohl, - let's live it. I updated the October pics to brighter colours. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:51, 28 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Yes, it seems to have been quite popular :-). The autumn colours in Germany are beautiful!--Berig (talk) 15:13, 28 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Gerda Arendt, you asked me about reviving the old spirit of Wikipedia. I think it is too late for that, unfortunately because Wikipedia has grown too big and too important. Almost cut-throat in a way. Also back in the early more innocent years of Wikipedia, good editors were basically just good editors. Then came the scandals, and you can read about some of them here. I have been told that it was the Essjay scandal that made WP slowly turn sour, and recently a banned editor almost became an admin with a sock, before arbcom stopped it. These things don't instill a lot of communal trust even in the well-behaved regular editors, and it makes the community even harder and less tolerant on editors who have problems following WP policy and guidelines. I have "my own" corner here on WP and the few people who turn up are almost invariably nice and respectful.--Berig (talk) 20:22, 28 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

(talk page stalker) If I may interject - I think the internet is just generally a less friendly and trusting place than it used to be. I first edited here as an IP back in 2010, and I'm fairly certain all of my edits would have been reverted as unsourced if I had done them today (even though they were backed up by sources, but not cited ones). Certain areas of WP are sort of controlled by/highly contested between nationalist cabals as well, not to mention the scandals and socks that Berig mentioned. None of this lends itself to collegiality outside of a small group of like-minded editors.--Ermenrich (talk) 14:06, 29 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

I agree, but we three could at least begin to not make that happen further. When we see an under-referenced article, we can add references (instead of tags, blaming the author, moving the thing to draft space where really nobody will see it, so nobody improve), - for a simple example. No article has to begin perfect, almost no article will ever be perfect, we can help each other to make it better. I said this on AN, and feel I talked Chinese. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:11, 29 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Gerda Arendt, that is what I do. As far as I can remember, I have never added "ref tags" (which I consider to be a kind of trolling), but I look for references and check references in order to improve the articles. The long thread that I started and that sadly led to you losing your friend AlainLouis, was not about him, but about other editors who hoax their references. I was so frustrated with a Swedish editor who for ideological reasons had messed up early Swedish history articles and added references that contradicted his information. He even admitted it to me, but I did not take action because he openly admitted to it and promised to stay away from them in the future.--Berig (talk) 15:45, 29 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. I didn't loose that friend, - the English Wikipedia lost him. I lost another friend today and don't yet know to what. Frédéric Blanc (which I wanted for a bio to appear on DYK 1 Nov) was created in my German user space, and I'm working on it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:51, 29 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

 

On 29 October 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Gambara (seeress), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that according to legend, the god of wisdom Odin was tricked by his own wife, and her priestess Gambara, to give victory to Gambara's tribe? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gambara (seeress). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Gambara (seeress)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:03, 29 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

 

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On 31 October 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Waluburg, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Germanic seeress Waluburg is only known from a pot shard found on the island Elephantine in southern Egypt? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Waluburg. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Waluburg), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Hi Berig! Just out of curiosity: why is your sandbox called "wharf"?--Ermenrich (talk) 21:44, 3 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Oh, I had so many sandboxes for a while that I wanted to call them something more interesting than sandbox1, sandbox2, etc. So I called them "incubator", "launchpad", "nursery", "workshop", "workspace", etc. "Wharf" seemed like a nice metaphor, as in place where something is constructed to be launched later when done.--Berig (talk) 21:56, 3 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Ermenrich:, oops! Now I am embarassed. Wharf is a false friend. In Swedish we call dry docks or ship yards varv, which is the same word as wharf. When I am done with the article, I will delete the sandbox, as misnamed.--Berig (talk) 22:02, 3 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

I have renamed it now. Thanks for pointing out the mistake!--Berig (talk) 22:20, 3 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Ah, that explains it then! I figured you'd worked on some sort of nautical-themed article at some point.--Ermenrich (talk) 23:24, 3 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

 

On 8 November 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Woman of the Chatti, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the woman of the Chatti was allegedly a Germanic prophetess whose advice inspired Roman Emperor Vitellius to murder his own mother, Sextilia? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Woman of the Chatti. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Woman of the Chatti), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 8 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

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theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 01:25, 11 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

 

On 21 November 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cimbrian seeresses, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Cimbrian seeresses are said to have predicted the future by slitting the throats of war prisoners and studying how the blood trickled down into a cauldron? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cimbrian seeresses. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Cimbrian seeresses), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:02, 21 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Awesome stuff and very circumspectly done. Wish we had an icon of some kind. I've looked and I'm sure you have as well. Getting a nice "pantheon" of these seeresses. Super job on these pages. Fascinating reading. BusterD (talk) 22:15, 5 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thank you BusterD, it means a lot that you appreciate the articles :-).--Berig (talk) 11:43, 6 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

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On 12 December 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Albruna, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Albruna may have been the woman of "superhuman size" who stopped Roman general Drusus's campaign in Germania by prophesying his death? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Albruna. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Albruna), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Hi, just read Albruna. What an interesting article! Great job. Very interesting comparison of Germanic v Roman deification of women, which could in itself make an interesting article. I see from your talk page it’s part of a ‘series’. I’ll have to check the others out. DeCausa (talk) 18:33, 12 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thank you! I am glad to learn that my work is appreciated!--Berig (talk) 20:30, 12 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

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looks like DeCausa wasn't alone on that one! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 18:27, 13 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Dear Berig,

I hope you and yours are doing well! A very belated god Jol and a happy new year to you!--Ermenrich (talk) 16:35, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

The same to you, dear Ermenrich!--Berig (talk) 17:19, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

 

The article Norwegian Runic Inscription 239 has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Nothing to indicate that this stone is any more notable than the thousands of others in the database which is its one source (and I'll upgrade the ref so that it links to this stone rather than just to the database): unless the plan is for Wikipedia to copy the entire database, there seems no reason to have an article on this particular stone. Unless I am missing something?

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Thank you @PamD: for explaining to me that a 1000 year-old memorial is "not notable". It is one of only 50 surviving Norwegian runestones, and in addition it belongs to a minority of c. 10% in all of Scandinavia that tells of voyages abroad. I am very surprised.--Berig (talk) 12:19, 15 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

I didn't say it wasn't notable: I said that nothing in the article indicated that it was notable, but admitted that I might be missing something. The fact that it has a "Common name" and the further sourcing provided by @Phil Bridger: clarify that it is notable. PamD 12:57, 15 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hey there, why did you rollback my edits on Talk:Thor? --TylerBurden (talk) 09:00, 18 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Yes, it was a mistake. I am sorry. In fact, I must have slipped unawares, because I was not aware of it.--Berig (talk) 09:05, 18 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

No problem, can happen easily with rollback. --TylerBurden (talk) 09:07, 18 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hello Berig! I've come across this at least twice, most recently today [1]. Someone's been adding some idiosyncratic IPA's of Old Norse names, with the ending -r given as [z̠]. My understanding was that -R had shifted to -r long before the time these names would have been written. (Also not sure about [ɣ] for /g/). I suspect this will be in more places around the encyclopdia. You're a linguist so I thought you'd better be able to judge this than me.--Ermenrich (talk) 14:32, 29 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

I have seen it too, but I think it is a realistic rendering of early ON. G was pronounded as [ɣ] in medial position. The pronunciation of the nominal case marker -r/-R as [z] is thought to have lasted into the Viking Age, and [r] and and a kind of [z] are still allophones in Swedish, and in Stockholm the letter r is usually pronounded as a kind of [z], probably a remnant of R.--Berig (talk) 19:19, 29 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

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I snuck back into Germanic stuff. I am afraid I just mucked about a bit with your Sö 140 article; as I read him, although he cited the interpretation of siþi as "work magic", he actually wanted to read "bring about [protection]". So I added a citation for the magic working and for both amounting to invoking protection. I hope I haven't misread the Swedish and mucked it up.

I've been looking also at Öl 1 / DR 411. Obviously most at the disputed crosses/hammers. It occurs to me that the two parts of the runic inscription are in conflict, insofar as the prose merely refers to raising the stone, while the verse describes the guy as a draugr in a barrow. Obviously this stone is a provocation. Since the verse is generally agreed to be West Norse, may I ask whether the prose is, too? And whether there is any indication that there was a barrow? The skalds didn't quote each other, but while I was considering the possibility that the stone as we have it is the result of a graffiti war, it popped into my head that this stone may be an exception to that rule. Yngvadottir (talk) 13:31, 3 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Yes, the entire inscription is believed to have been made by a Norwegian or an Icelander, which is based on the use of the r-rune instead of the R-rune. Since the stone is also usually associated with warriors who returned from the Battle of the Fýrisvellir, this should not be very surprising since there was also an Icelandic skald named Þórvaldr Hjaltason on the Swedish side in the battle. There would have been a barrow at the site, but most barrows were small and have disappeared due to a millenium of plowing. The word draugr does not seem to refer to a "draugr" though, but to a meaning "tree trunk" and part of a kenning for chieftain.--Berig (talk) 16:04, 3 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Ah, thank you! draugr dolga Þrúðar, I see it now. McKinnell, Simek, and Düwel say it "also conjures up the image"; I can see only ch. 12 of their book in pdf thanks to somebody on Wikipedia, and it seems a bit uncritical (and on that stone, appears to be counting the Latin-lettered side too when they tot up the number of hammers?). Yes, it seems a safe hypothesis that this is one of the Fyrisvellir dead, and I suppose it's possible the entire cohort were Norwegians/Icelanders ... so they managed to get the body out? I was thinking that was unlikely. I finally found it not yet edited at the Skaldic Project with the help of Google, and from there in Skjaldedigtning p. 177. Yngvadottir (talk) 23:05, 3 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

According to excerpts from the recently discovered and possibly forged Gesta wulinensis published by Sven Rosborn, Sibbi was the Danish king's jarl and ruled over Jutland and Zealand. He appears to have conspired with the Swedish king against Styrbjörn.--Berig (talk) 21:20, 4 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Heh, intrigues within intrigues, thanks; and that document again! If true, that might explain his getting a mound. But I still suspect the stone has been subject to some tit-for-tat symbol carving and altering. Thanks to modern digital cameras and an apparent dose of herbicide, I was able to get a good look at the base of the front side and compare to DR 120 (and that reminds me, at some point I have to get Google maps to show me how close together some of these runestones really are). Apologies; I know I make more errors than sense. Yngvadottir (talk) 09:09, 5 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for pointing out DR 120. I had missed it.--Berig (talk) 08:36, 6 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Wow, you had? Thanks for the article! I see my guess was right and sprængt does not suggest the stone had been dynamited; did you notice at Danske Runeindskrifter that the museum later moved to a new building and it got dropped and broke into twice as many pieces? Poor old stone. They think it may be a tau cross, which is of course a lot of hooey; on the other hand they provide the ref for the Thor article, which I ought not to edit, interpreting DR 48 as a Thor's hammer, though Moltke and McKimmell/Simek/Düwel think it's too late. Katherine Beard's dissertation is proving useful, though I find I disagree with her on some things, including the front side of Karlevi. But then I tend to find points of disagreement with everybody ... By the way, using the plan a trip function at Google maps, last night I think I successfully replaced a couple of scholarly statements about stones being "nearby" with Sö 140 being 7 miles from Sö 133 and less than 2 miles from Sö Fv1948;289 (and peered at a few runestones on Google Street View). Yngvadottir (talk) 09:54, 6 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Feel free to expand the article. I'm too busy IRL, ATM.--Berig (talk) 11:48, 6 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi Berig, do you know if I've listed this move request correctly: Talk:Robert of Courçon#Requested move 8 February 2022? I'm wondering why the bot doesn't seem to have picked it up yet.--Ermenrich (talk) 20:12, 8 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, but I am usually perplexed by that kind of procedure. I move it myself, as it doesn't look very controversial.--Berig (talk) 21:25, 8 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

I am usually perplexed by that kind of procedure - that makes two of us!--Ermenrich (talk) 21:34, 8 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi Berig,

I know that you're quite busy, but I was wondering if you might be interested in contributing to this draft, which I intend to eventually replace Germanic paganism. It remains in the earliest stages so far. In particular, I'm not yet sure how the section on the the gods should be arranged - I'm just collecting info that might end up being useful elsewhere at the moment and then I suspect it should be condensed into a single section discussing them as a group and probably some of the details removed.

In either case, I think that an article more focused on the actual archaeological evidence of Germanic religion is well in order and I'm slowly collecting that (especially since it's not controversial in the way that the deities are). It would be good to have another editor with a different perspective and access to different sources than I have contributing even in a small way, and I enjoyed working with you on Germanic heroic legend before.--Ermenrich (talk) 15:56, 11 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

It looks like a very good start indeed! I will see if I can add information and help out, but I don't think I can commit myself as much as I did last time.--Berig (talk) 19:55, 11 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Whatever you can do! I really should be doing something else myself. The divorce of Premysl Otokar I is not going to research itself, after all.--Ermenrich (talk) 20:41, 11 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Ermenrich:, I will not hurry because the topic deserves time. We need two approaches to this article. You have already started the bottom-up approach, but we also need a top down approach that takes into account how comparative studies can shed some light on Germanic paganism.--Berig (talk) 08:37, 12 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Good call!--Ermenrich (talk) 12:13, 12 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

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• Several unused discretionary sanctions and article probation remedies have been rescinded. This follows the community feedback from the 2021 Discretionary Sanctions review.

  Miscellaneous

• The 2022 appointees for the Ombuds commission are Érico, Faendalimas, Galahad, Infinite0694, Mykola7, Olugold, Udehb and Zabe as regular members and Ameisenigel and JJMC89 as advisory members.
• Following the 2022 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: AntiCompositeNumber, BRPever, Hasley, TheresNoTime, and Vermont.
• The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey results have been published alongside the ranking of prioritized proposals.

Hi. Since we discussed this before, I thought I'd point out a renewed edit-war on the article. Figured a few more eyes couldn't hurt. — kwami (talk) 22:00, 15 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi Berig, I'm pretty sure that Rosengarten zu Worms is the same long-term abuser we've banned a few times making edits around Germanic heroic legend. Can't remember the exact name at the moment, but the same focus on the Rosengarten is evident. He posted some insulting messages on your talk page as you'll recall. In any case, more scrutiny of his edits is needed, as he doesn't actually appear to know what he's talking about (see the discussion at talk:Gudrun and talk:Sigurd for examples).--Ermenrich (talk) 15:11, 7 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

One of the previous user names was Alpharts Tod. They've both edited Böðvildr in the same way, see [2], [3]. I call WP:DUCK.--Ermenrich (talk) 15:15, 7 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2022).

Administrator changes   Firefly • Sdrqaz   Ad Orientem   Geschichte • Ryan Postlethwaite • Sabine's Sunbird • Wassupwestcoast

Interface administrator changes   Evad37

  Guideline and policy news

• An RfC is open proposing a change to the minimum activity requirements for administrators.

  Technical news

• Access to Special:RevisionDelete has been expanded to include users who have the deletelogentry and deletedhistory rights. This means that those in the Researcher user group and Checkusers who are not administrators can now access Special:RevisionDelete. The users able to view the special page after this change are the 3 users in the Researcher group, as there are currently no checkusers who are not already administrators. (T301928)
• When viewing deleted revisions or diffs on Special:Undelete a back link to the undelete page for the associated page is now present. (T284114)

  Arbitration

• Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures § Opening of proceedings has been updated to reflect current practice following a motion.
• A arbitration case regarding Skepticism and coordinated editing has been closed.
• A arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been opened.

  Miscellaneous

• Voting for the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement guidelines has closed, and the results were that 56.98% of voters supported the guidelines. The results of this vote mean the Wikimedia Foundation Board will now review the guidelines.

22:52, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2022).

Administrator changes   Colin M   David.Monniaux • Fribbler • Grue • Kpjas • West.andrew.g

CheckUser changes   Ks0stm   Oversighter changes   Ks0stm

  Guideline and policy news

• Following an RfC, a change has been made to the administrators inactivity policy. Under the new policy, if an administrator has not made at least 100 edits over a period of 5 years they may be desysopped for inactivity.
• Following a discussion on the bureaucrat's noticeboard, a change has been made to the bureaucrats inactivity policy.

  Technical news

• The ability to undelete the associated talk page when undeleting a page has been added. This was the 11th wish of the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey.
• A public status system for WMF wikis has been created. It is located at https://www.wikimediastatus.net/ and is hosted separately to WMF wikis so in the case of an outage it will remain viewable.

  Arbitration

• Remedy 2 of the St Christopher case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to place a ban on single-purpose accounts who were disruptively editing on the article St Christopher Iba Mar Diop College of Medicine or related pages from those pages.

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2022).

Administrator changes   Tamzin   Barek • Darkwind • Geometry guy • ProcseeBot • RoyBoy • Sean Whitton • Valereee • Visorstuff • WAvegetarian   Sn0wflake → VersedFenrir

CheckUser changes   Ivanvector

  Guideline and policy news

• Several areas of improvement collated from community member votes have been identified in the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement guidelines. The areas of improvement have been sent back for review and you are invited to provide input on these areas.

  Technical news

• Administrators using the mobile web interface can now access Special:Block directly from user pages. (T307341)
• The IP Info feature has been deployed to all wikis as a Beta Feature. Any autoconfirmed user may enable the feature using the "IP info" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features. Autoconfirmed users will be able to access basic information about an IP address that includes the country and connection method. Those with advanced privileges (admin, bureaucrat, checkuser) will have access to extra information that includes the Internet Service Provider and more specific location.

  Arbitration

• Remedy 2 of the Rachel Marsden case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to delete or reduce to a stub, together with their talk pages, articles related to Rachel Marsden when they violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy.
• An arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been closed.

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2022).

Administrator changes   AA • Gwalla • Ioeth • Laurascudder • Moriori (deceased) • Nat • Rfl   Drilnoth → AFigureOfBlue   Bureaucrat changes   Lee Vilenski

Interface administrator changes   Nihiltres

  Technical news

• user_global_editcount is a new variable that can be used in abuse filters to avoid affecting globally active users. (T130439)

  Arbitration

• An arbitration case regarding conduct in deletion-related editing has been opened.

  Miscellaneous

• The New Pages Patrol queue has around 10,000 articles to be reviewed. As all administrators have the patrol right, please consider helping out. The queue is here. For further information on the state of the project, see the latest NPP newsletter.

Just wanted to say I'm glad to see you around again!--Ermenrich (talk) 15:28, 13 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, but I am not sure I am back. I guess I am a bit bored after a few weeks of vacation ;-).--Berig (talk) 15:31, 13 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

I know the feeling. Since the war started I haven't actually done anything fun on Wikipedia.--Ermenrich (talk) 15:39, 13 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

The war has taken a toll on me too.--Berig (talk) 16:05, 13 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Yes. Unfortunately I'm increasingly drawn into fighting with Russian disinformation here which makes me want to rage quit the place. Our policies appear to be quite weak when it comes to (possibly well-meaning and misinformed) people spreading crap. People are literally being tortured, murdered, and shelled for no good reason but we aren't allowed to say that "influencers" who justify or deny it are spreading propaganda because they're barely covered in RS...--Ermenrich (talk) 19:52, 13 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Russian nationalism is a cancer. I have friends in Russia, IRL, who are fervently pro-Putin, but out of respect for me (they know I love Russia), they avoid discussing it with me. In my case, I have lost an entire fortune in Russia due to the sanctions.--Berig (talk) 20:03, 13 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Oy gevalt. My in-laws are currently refugees because of the war, although their region is still mostly unaffected. Unfortunately they were brainwashed by the Russian Orthodox Church and can't quite wrap their heads around the situation - they don't support the war exactly but they believe the "Ukraine is shelling itself" stuff and are more concerned with anti-Russian sentiment in Ukraine than the f*cking Russian army murdering everyone - but my wife at least is sane about it. She also can't talk about it with them, it makes her too upset. Then again, her parents also believe that Covid isn't real and various other things, so I guess she's used to it.--Ermenrich (talk) 20:11, 13 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Yes, people really are that brainwashed in Russia. My brother-in-law is totally pro-Putin, but his wife is totally against the war. He has argued incessantly with my wife (his sister) and his own wife. I am actually proud that my wife's closest relatives all have gone to the Israeli embassy to claim the "right of return" to Israel. They will probably all be living in Israel in the future.--Berig (talk) 20:17, 13 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

It's even more disheartening when the brainwashed people are Ukrainian... This is hardly new with them though. When I visited one time they gave me Miracle Mineral Supplement to help with a fever (I didn't know what it was). My wife told me they forbid her from using playing cards because the card suites are somehow Satanic, and they wouldn't let her watch Teletubbies as a kid because they thought the antennae on the Teletubbies's heads looked like devil horns...--Ermenrich (talk) 20:38, 13 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

That really sounds like rural conservative Christians. I grew up in a small town that was predominantly baptist, and I can imagine some of the people I grew up with sharing the same kind of delusions.--Berig (talk) 20:58, 13 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

You came back! You came back! I'm so glad. Yngvadottir (talk) 11:27, 19 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2022).

 

  Administrator changes

  Valereee

  Anthony Appleyard (deceased) • Capitalistroadster • Samsara

  Guideline and policy news

• An RfC has been closed with consensus to add javascript that will show edit notices for editors editing via a mobile device. This only works for users using a mobile browser, so iOS app editors will still not be able to see edit notices.
• An RfC has been closed with the consensus that train stations are not inherently notable.

  Technical news

• The Wikimania 2022 Hackathon will take place virtually from 11 August to 14 August.
• Administrators will now see links on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. (T308570)

  Arbitration

• The arbitration case request Geschichte has been automatically closed after a 3 month suspension of the case.

  Miscellaneous

• You can vote for candidates in the 2022 Board of Trustees elections from 16 August to 30 August. Two community elected seats are up for election.
• Wikimania 2022 is taking place virtually from 11 August to 14 August. The schedule for wikimania is listed here. There are also a number of in-person events associated with Wikimania around the world.
• Tech tip: When revision-deleting on desktop, hold ⇧ Shift between clicking two checkboxes to select every box in that range.

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  Guideline and policy news

• A discussion is open to define a process by which Vector 2022 can be made the default for all users.
• An RfC is open to gain consensus on whether Fox News is reliable for science and politics.

  Technical news

• The impact report on the effects of disabling IP editing on the Persian (Farsi) Wikipedia has been released.
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  Arbitration

• An arbitration case regarding Conduct in deletion-related editing has been closed. The Arbitration Committee passed a remedy as part of the final decision to create a request for comment (RfC) on how to handle mass nominations at Articles for Deletion (AfD).
• The arbitration case request Jonathunder has been automatically closed after a 6 month suspension of the case.

  Miscellaneous

• The new pages patrol (NPP) team has prepared an appeal to the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) for assistance with addressing Page Curation bugs and requested features. You are encouraged to read the open letter before it is sent, and if you support it, consider signing it. It is not a discussion, just a signature will suffice.
• Voting for candidates for the Wikimedia Board of Trustees is open until 6 September.

Just wanted to let you know I found something more on that image of Dietrich's heroes at Floda church, including the painter, Albertus Pictor, that's been floating around Wikipedia for years, see [4].--Ermenrich (talk) 13:19, 3 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Also, it turns out that Dietrich and Witege, the only two Germanic heroes in the image, are upside down. I wonder if we shouldn't flip the image and replace it.--Ermenrich (talk) 13:23, 3 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Went ahead and did that. Will replace at Thidreks saga too.--Ermenrich (talk) 13:39, 3 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Thank you! Well done! I actually once knew a scholar whose mother was the minister of that church, and I have long thought of going there to take colour pictures of the the paintings :-)--Berig (talk) 16:13, 3 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

That would certainly be cool. I'm giving a talk on images of Dietrich von Bern in about a week and I happened upon the information. I've decided to include the church fresco briefly in my talk :-). It's a gathering of Germanists, so I doubt they'll know much about medieval Sweden, though a few have studied Old Norse.--Ermenrich (talk) 12:49, 4 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

By the way, you wouldn't happen to know who the knight on the fresco labeled "Trullat" (or possibly "Crullat") is, would you? His opponent is not labeled, unfortunately. The other figures are David and Goliath, Holger Danske and Burmand, and Dietrich and Witege.--Ermenrich (talk) 12:53, 4 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Trullat must be a rendering of Trollet, i.e. 'the Troll'. At least in the Swedish version, there is a Troll. Medieval Trolls were not the same as modern-day fantasy Trolls.--Berig (talk) 18:17, 4 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Troll was my best guess as well, but that leaves me to wonder why the opponent is unlabeled - it's a good versus an evil figure in the other cases, so the unnamed knight must be the "good guy" in that case. Could a troll be a jousting knight? I'll need to look into it more if I pursue this beyond the talk, there's some published descriptions of the frescoes, though I think the best one is in Swedish.--Ermenrich (talk) 18:34, 4 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

I doubt that much is known about medieval Scandinavian Trolls. I can very well imagine a Troll jousting as a knight, because they may have been relatively hard to tell apart from from humans. Moreover, the word troll basically means "supernatural" and "magical", and there is a strong shape-shifting element in Scandinavian myths.--Berig (talk) 19:08, 4 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Ermenrich, I have an Swedish source by Gunnar Olof Hyltén-Cavallius[5] that lists the characters as Holger Danske and Burman, Sone Føslink and the Troll, Diderik van Beran and Wideke Welansson.--Berig (talk) 19:39, 4 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Thanks Berig! Can’t say I’ve heard of Sone Føslink! Do you think the sources for the illustrations are ballads? I might need to see if there’s a ballad of Dietrich fighting Witege, rather than assuming the source is the Didriks Krönike.—-Ermenrich (talk) 21:15, 4 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

The ballads were probably more well-known by the parishioners. Sone Føslink and the Troll must refer to the Swedish ballad Sven Flötling och trollet[6]. Among the Swedish ballads we also find Holger dansk och Burman. I can't find a ballad about Didrik fighting Vidrik, but there may very well have been one. The vast majority of the ballads are probably lost.--Berig (talk) 07:19, 5 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi Berig!

I'm starting to get the Wikipedia itch again for the first time since the war started, although I really don't have time for it at all. Looking at my sandbox I'm struck that, besides information on gods in the pantheon, the draft is mostly done. Do you share that impression? That would give me and any willing helpers a more limited task to focus on. Maybe I can try summarizing the articles on e.g. Thor and adding the info that way as well (normally I like to always write it myself/new for an article so I can be sure about the references, but I don't know that I have time).--Ermenrich (talk) 13:09, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

You have done a great job with it. It is a fine article in its present state, and I think you should go ahead and launch it. There are things to improve, naturally, but there always are, and it is mostly a matter of polishing, but that can always be done later.--Berig (talk) 17:45, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Thanks Berig! I'll try to put it out as soon as I can. I have a feeling I'll need to give up even more on Wikipedia editing than I have - I've just been asked to become the treasurer of a major scholarly organization for medievalists (not Germanists) and even though I'd rather tell them I'm way too busy, I should probably say yes. Could be useful when I go up for tenure next year. For the moment, the decision is really stressing me out though.--Ermenrich (talk) 19:29, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Of course you should choose what is beneficial for your career! I am sure many present and former Wikipedians deeply regret that they didn't have their priorities straight and let WP steal too much time and energy.--Berig (talk) 19:36, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Believe me, Wikipedia does not factor until my considerations, haha!—Ermenrich (talk) 01:01, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Nic work, Ermenrich, and congratulations with your career progress! Would it be an idea to name the article Germanic religion instead of Germanic paganism? The former appears to be the common name in both English and German-language scholarship. An additional source that could be used for the article is the Encyclopedia of Religion. It has articles with an overview and history of research on the topic, and articles about deities and creatures such as Odin, Thor, Týr, Freyja, Freyr, Freyja, Loki, Njo̹rđr, Baldr, Heimdallr, dwarves, elves, jötnar and valkyries. Krakkos (talk) 09:30, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi Krakkos, thanks for the extremely useful suggestion! I don't have a strong opinion on Germanic religion vs. paganism. I think the only upside to saying "paganism" is that it excludes "Germanic Christianity," but I leave that decision up to others.--Ermenrich (talk) 17:34, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

I think calling pagan beliefs religion is a misnomer. Religion implies standardization, dogma and an organized priestly class, things that were rare or non-existent in Germanic and other forms of paganism.--Berig (talk) 04:44, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2022).

Administrator changes   ScottishFinnishRadish   Staxringold   Ahoerstemeier (deceased) • Ched

Interface administrator changes   Cyberpower678     CheckUser changes   GorillaWarfare

  Guideline and policy news

• Following an RfC, consensus was found that if the rationale for a block depends on information that is not available to all administrators, that information should be sent to the Arbitration Committee, a checkuser or an oversighter for action (as applicable, per ArbCom's recent updated guidance) instead of the administrator making the block.
• Following an RfC, consensus has been found that, in the context of politics and science, the reliability of FoxNews.com is unclear and that additional considerations apply to its use.
• Community comment on the revised Universal Code of Conduct enforcement guidelines is requested until 8 October.

  Technical news

• The Articles for creation helper script now automatically recognises administrator accounts which means your name does not need to be listed at WP:AFCP to help out. If you wish to help out at AFC, enable AFCH by navigating to Preferences → Gadgets and checking the "Yet Another AfC Helper Script" box.

  Arbitration

• Remedy 8.1 of the Muhammad images case will be rescinded 1 November following a motion.
• A modification to the deletion RfC remedy in the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been made to reaffirm the independence of the RfC and allow the moderators to split the RfC in two.
• The second phase of the 2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review closes 3 October.

  Miscellaneous

• An administrator's account was recently compromised. Administrators are encouraged to check that their passwords are secure, and reminded that ArbCom reserves the right to not restore adminship in cases of poor account security. You can also use two-factor authentication (2FA) to provide an extra level of security.
• Self-nominations for the electoral commission for the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections open 2 October and close 8 October.
• You are invited to comment on candidates in the 2022 CUOS appointments process.
• An RfC is open to discuss whether to make Vector 2022 the default skin on desktop.
• Tech tip: You can do a fuzzy search of all deleted page titles at Special:Undelete.

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2022).

  Administrator changes

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  • Atama
  • Astronautics~enwiki
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  • Eddie891
  • GraemeL
  • Marianocecowski
  • Natalya
  • Pratyeka
  • SB Johnny

  Interface administrator changes

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  CheckUser changes

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•   Joe Roe

  Oversight changes

•   DGG

  Guideline and policy news

• The article creation at scale RfC opened on 3 October and will be open until at least 2 November.
• An RfC is open to discuss having open requests for adminship automatically placed on hold after the seven-day period has elapsed, pending closure or other action by a bureaucrat.

  Arbitration

• Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 13 November 2022 until 22 November 2022 to stand in the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections.
• The arbitration case request titled Athaenara has been resolved by motion.
• The arbitration case Reversal and reinstatement of Athaenara's block has entered the proposed decision stage.
• AmandaNP, Mz7 and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2022 Arbitration Committee Elections. Xaosflux and Dr vulpes are reserve commissioners.

  Miscellaneous

• The 2022 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of two new CheckUsers.
• You can add yourself to the centralised page listing time zones of administrators.
• Tech tip: Wikimarkup in a block summary is parsed in the notice that the blockee sees. You can use templates with custom options to specify situations like {{rangeblock|create=yes}} or {{uw-ublock|contains profanity}}.

I'm sorry I inadvertently prioritised Old West Norse, I was trying to keep it simple and in any case would have presumably got it wrong. As it is the guy still doesn't seem to understand the problem of no canonical spelling; he probably isn't aware how widely English pronunciations vary, and he may think "Norse" is the same thing as "Norwegian". Anyway, sorry to have bothered you, and thanks. I hope the term is going well. I may try to add some info to Tängelgårda stone, and in the old days I'd have written amulet ring (unsatisfactory stub on sv.) or even hammer ring, but we lack the necessary images on Commons and besides there are so many reasons I shouldn't :-) Maybe I'll put something in my userspace. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:20, 5 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

No problem. The problems of Wikipedia are well-known.--Berig (talk) 07:08, 6 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2022).

  Administrator changes

 

• Eddie891
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• Alex.muller
• Excirial
• RedWordSmith
• Ron Ritzman
• TheresNoTime
• Stephen

  Interface administrator changes

  TheresNoTime

  TheresNoTime

 

  CheckUser changes

  TheresNoTime

  Oversight changes

  TheresNoTime

  Guideline and policy news

• Consensus has been found in an RfC to automatically place RfAs on hold after one week.
• The article creation at scale RfC has been closed.
• An RfC on the banners for the December 2022 fundraising campaign has been closed.

  Technical news

• A new preference named "Enable limited width mode" has been added to the Vector 2022 skin. The preference is also shown as a toggle on every page if your monitor is 1600 pixels or wider. When disabled it removes the whitespace added by Vector 2022 on the left and right of the page content. Disabling this preference has the same effect as enabling the wide-vector-2022 gadget. (T319449)

  Arbitration

• Eligible users are invited to vote on candidates for the Arbitration Committee until 23:59 December 12, 2022 (UTC). Candidate statements can be seen here.
• The proposed decision for the 2021-22 review of the discretionary sanctions system is open.
• The arbitration case Reversal and reinstatement of Athaenara's block has been closed.
• The arbitration case Stephen has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 1 December 2022.
• A motion has modified the procedures for contacting an admin facing Level 2 desysop.

  Miscellaneous

• Tech tip: A single IPv6 connection usually has access to a "subnet" of 18 quintillion IPs. Add /64 to the end of an IP in Special:Contributions to see all of a subnet's edits, and consider blocking the whole subnet rather than an IP that may change within a minute.

 

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MBlaze Lightning (talk) 09:10, 25 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hoppar också in och säger god jul, förstår inte hur du orkat med Wikipedia så länge. :P TylerBurden (talk) 01:59, 26 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

God Jul till dig också! Ja, jag frågar mig samma sak. Saken är den att bland alla knäppskallar, besserwissrar, idioter och rent ut sagt otrevliga typer finns det också en de riktigt bra människor här på WP.--Berig (talk) 06:35, 26 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2022).

  Administrator changes

 

• ComplexRational
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• Andrew Yong
• Dbenbenn
• DESiegel
• GlassCobra
• Joe Decker
• Nancy
• Pathoschild
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• William Pietri
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  Interface administrator changes

  Nihiltres

 

  CheckUser changes

  Moneytrees

 

• Ivanvector
• SilkTork

  Oversighter changes

 

• GeneralNotability
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• Guerillero
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  Guideline and policy news

• Speedy deletion criterion A5 (transwikied articles) has been repealed following an unopposed proposal.

  Arbitration

• Following the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Barkeep49, CaptainEek, GeneralNotability, Guerillero, L235, Moneytrees, Primefac, SilkTork.
• The 2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review has concluded with many changes to the discretionary sanctions procedure including a change of the name to "contentious topics". The changes are being implemented over the coming month.
• The arbitration case Stephen has been closed.

  Miscellaneous

• Voting for the Sound Logo has closed and the winner is expected to be announced February to April 2023.
• Tech tip: You can view information about IP addresses in a centralised location using bullseye which won the Newcomer award in the recent Coolest Tool Awards.

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2023).

Administrator changes   Gimmetrow   Bjelleklang Bob the Wikipedian Leithp WhisperToMe 100 inactive admins

CheckUser changes   BDD Bradv Donald Albury Maxim MusikAnimal   Oversighter changes   BDD Bradv Donald Albury Maxim

  Guideline and policy news

• Following an RfC, the administrator policy now requires that prior written consent be gained from the Arbitration Committee to mark a block as only appealable to the committee.
• Following a community discussion, consensus has been found to impose the extended-confirmed restriction over the topic areas of Armenia and Azerbaijan and Kurds and Kurdistan.

  Technical news

• The Vector 2022 skin has become the default for desktop users of the English Wikipedia.

  Arbitration

• The arbitration case Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 24 February 2023.
• In December, the contentious topics procedure was adopted which replaces the former discretionary sanctions system. The contentious topics procedure is now in effect following an initial implementation period. There is a detailed summary of the changes and administrator instructions for the new procedure. The arbitration clerk team are taking suggestions, concerns, and unresolved questions about this new system at their noticeboard.

  Miscellaneous

• Voting in the 2023 Steward elections will begin on 05 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
• Voting in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey will begin on 10 February 2023 and end on 24 February 2023. You can submit, discuss and revise proposals until 6 February 2023.
• Tech tip: Syntax highlighting is available in both the 2011 and 2017 Wikitext editors. It can help make editing paragraphs with many references or complicated templates easier.

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2023).

Administrator changes   The Wordsmith   Fuhghettaboutit Spinningspark (deceased)

CheckUser changes   Callanecc   Oversighter changes   Callanecc

  Guideline and policy news

• Following a request for comment, F10 (useless non-media files) has been deprecated.
• Following a request for comment, the Portal CSD criteria (P1 (portal subject to CSD as an article) and P2 (underpopulated portal)) have been deprecated.
• A request for comment is open to discuss making the closing instructions for the requested moves process a guideline.

  Technical news

• The results of the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey have been posted.

  Arbitration

• Remedy 11 ("Request for Comment") of the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been rescinded.
• The proposed decision for the Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case is expected 7 March 2023.
• A case related to the Holocaust in Poland is expected to be opened soon.

  Miscellaneous

• The 2023 appointees for the Ombuds commission are AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, JJMC89, MdsShakil, Minorax and Renvoy as regular members and Zabe as advisory members.
• Following the 2023 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Mykola7, Superpes15, and Xaosflux.
• The Terms of Use update cycle has started, which includes a [p]roposal for better addressing undisclosed paid editing. Feedback is being accepted until 24 April 2023.

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2023).

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CheckUser changes   Ferret

  Guideline and policy news

• A community RfC is open to discuss whether reports primarily involving gender-related disputes or controversies should be referred to the Arbitration enforcement noticeboard.

  Technical news

• Some older web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis starting this week. This mainly affects users of Internet Explorer 11. (T178356)
• The rollback of Vector 2022 RfC has found no consensus to rollback to Vector legacy, but has found rough consensus to disable "limited width" mode by default.
• A link to the user's Special:CentralAuth page will now appear in the subtitle links shown on Special:Contributions. This was voted #17 in the Community Wishlist Survey 2023.

  Arbitration

• The Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case has been closed.
• A case about World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been opened, with the first evidence phase closing 6 April 2023.

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Administrator changes   Spicy   Ale jrb Dbachmann DGG (deceased) Jimbo Wales

CheckUser changes   Jimbo Wales   Oversighter changes   Jimbo Wales

  Guideline and policy news

• A request for comment about removing administrative privileges in specified situations is open for feedback.

  Technical news

• Progress has started on the Page Triage improvement project. This is to address the concerns raised by the community in their 2022 WMF letter that requested improvements be made to the tool.

  Arbitration

• The proposed decision in the World War II and the history of Jews in Poland case is expected 11 May 2023.

  Miscellaneous

• The Wikimedia Foundation annual plan 2023-2024 draft is open for comment and input through May 19. The final plan will be published in July 2023.

 

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Shimon (DJ) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shimon (DJ) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Administrator changes   Ingenuity   Ddstretch Prodego Resolute

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  Guideline and policy news

• Following an RfC, editors indefinitely site-banned by community consensus will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
• As a part of the Wikimedia Foundation's IP Masking project, a new policy has been created that governs the access to temporary account IP addresses. An associated FAQ has been created and individual communities can increase the requirements to view temporary account IP addresses.

  Technical news

• Bot operators and tool maintainers should schedule time in the coming months to test and update their tools for the effects of IP masking. IP masking will not be deployed to any content wiki until at least October 2023 and is unlikely to be deployed to the English Wikipedia until some time in 2024.

  Arbitration

• The arbitration case World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been closed. The topic area of Polish history during World War II (1933-1945) and the history of Jews in Poland is subject to a "reliable source consensus-required" contentious topic restriction.

  Miscellaneous

• Following a community referendum, the arbitration policy has been modified to remove the ability for users to appeal remedies to Jimbo Wales.

 Template:Myarchive has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. WOSlinker (talk) 18:55, 19 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

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  Administrator changes

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• Deckiller
• Electionworld
• MBisanz
• Penwhale
• Raul654
• Roadrunner
• Viridae
• Yannismarou

  Bureaucrat changes

  MBisanz

  Guideline and policy news

• Contributions to the English Wikipedia are now released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License (CC BY-SA 4.0) license instead of CC BY-SA 3.0. Contributions are still also released under the GFDL license.

  Technical news

• Discussion is open regarding a proposed global policy regarding third-party resources. Third-party resources are computer resources that reside outside of Wikimedia production websites.

  Arbitration

• Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the Scottywong case and 9 July 2023 for the AlisonW case.

Hi Berig!

I was wondering if you might be able to help me. I'm working on a project involving the Old Swedish Didriks Kroenika (which does not have a separate article on WP, unfortunately), and the only edition is basically a diplomatic transcription of the manuscript [7]. My Old Swedish is based entirely on my (not spectacular) Old Norse, so I'm having trouble deciphering them. On page 220 there is sort of this passage:

videke rendhe vndhan th3 mesthe han motte A'n didrik effther honum / tha rendhe vidheke vti swyo'n ok sanch strax(?) vnter vatnith. didrik sko't sith spywth epther honum sa ath th3 stodh j bakkan harth vidh Ana.

Here it is in Cumpstey's English if that helps:

Wideke ran away as best he could, and still Didrik followed him. Then Wideke ran out into the river, and sank at once under the water. Didrik threw his spear after him so that it landed in the hill right next to the river.

And this is on page 300:

Som hii fo'r haffuer horth huru wideke welanson flydde fo'r didrik aff bern ok sanch j syon wid granz?port / tho kom til honum en haffru hans fadher fadher modher ok togh honum ok fo'rde honum til sa'landh ok war ther longa stundh

English:

As you have heard before, Wideke Welandsson fled from Didrik of Bern and sank into the sea at Gransport. Then a mermaid came to him, his father’s father’s mother, and she took him and carried him to Sealand, and he was there for a long time.

Do you know what word "th3" should be? The 3 reminds me of a Latin abbreviation for "-um", but that seems wrong. It also could be a z, but "thz" is clearly an abbreviation for something. It's a form of de/det I'm guessing. Is that sort of hook (represented here by ') an acute accent? A way of writing "i"? And what on earth is with "strax" - the x looks king of like a Latin abbreviation for -rum, but again, that seems wrong.--Ermenrich (talk) 14:25, 19 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

The first "th3" means "the" , but the second is "thet" and means "that". The writer appars to have left out the last -t. The phrase "th3 mesthe han motte" is in English "the most he might" (translated with the English cognates). "Strax" is still a used word and means in a "short moment". It is a loan word from a German word "strack(e)s". The accent is an old way of writing the umlaut, so o' is simply ö, and a' is ä. Berig (talk) 21:14, 19 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. German actually does a line like that for umlaut too sometimes at this time. I was confused by strax because the x looks funny in the edition. The scribe seems to always write “th3”, so I’ll need to figure out when it’s de or det!—Ermenrich (talk) 23:38, 19 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

A self-correction. I wrote the answer just before going to bed. Now that I am awake and thinking more clearly, th3 is simply way of writing "thet", modern Swedish "det". Both "the"/"de" and "thet"/"det" can correspond to English "the" as definite articles ("DET stora huset"="THE big house" and "DE stora husen"="THE big houses"), while "thet"/"det" can mean "that" as a neuter pronoun ("jag vet DET"="I know THAT"). Berig (talk) 07:56, 20 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks again, that makes sense. I wonder if I should transcribe it as "thz" or th[et]...--Ermenrich (talk) 15:24, 20 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

I don't believe it is a "z", but an ampersand, a ligature of "e" and "t". There used to be a huge variation in how ampersands were written.Berig (talk) 19:43, 20 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

The sign is usually transcribed as "z", or the word is spelled out without comment - it is also often used in "mz", "met", modern Swedish "med", 'with'. For examples, see the first page of Erikskrönikan in a more scholarly and a more popular edition: [8][9]. I've tried to look into it, but there is a lot of at best semi-contradictory claims about it. The abbreviation sign seems to have been identical in form to a z, but depending on when and where the manuscript was written, there might not be a lot of ordinary z:s.

Andejons (talk) 07:51, 21 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).

 

  Administrator changes

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• AlisonW
• Amberrock
• Closedmouth
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  Interface administrator changes

  Novem Linguae

  Technical news

• The tag filter on Special:NewPages and revision history pages can now be inverted. This allows hiding edits made by automated tools. (T334338)
• Special:BlockedExternalDomains is a new tool that allows easier blocking of plain domains (and their subdomains). This is more easily searchable and is faster for the software to use than the existing MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. It does not support regex (for complex cases), URL path-matching, or the MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. (T337431)

  Arbitration

• The arbitration cases named Scottywong and AlisonW closed 10 July and 16 July respectively.
• The SmallCat dispute arbitration case is in the workshop phase.

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

Administrator changes   Pppery Theleekycauldron   Dwheeler G.A.S Royalbroil Ssd

CheckUser changes   Bradv   Oversighter changes   Bradv

  Guideline and policy news

• Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
• A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that [s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.

  Technical news

• Special:Contributions now shows the user's local edit count and the account's creation date. (T324166)

  Arbitration

• The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.

  Miscellaneous

• Tech tip: The "Browse history interactively" banner shown at the top of Special:Diff can be used to easily look through a history, assemble composite diffs, or find out what archive something wound up in.

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).

 

  Administrator changes

  0xDeadbeef

  Tamzin

  Dennis Brown

  Interface administrator changes

  Pppery

 

• Ragesoss
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  Guideline and policy news

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• The WMF is working on making it possible for administrators to edit MediaWiki configuration directly. This is similar to previous work on Special:EditGrowthConfig. A technical RfC is running until November 08, where you can provide feedback.
• There is a proposed plan for re-enabling the Graph Extension. Feedback on this proposal is requested.

  Arbitration

• Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
• Xaosflux, RoySmith and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee Elections. BusterD is the reserve commissioner.
• Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
• Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
• Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
• Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
• An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

  Miscellaneous

• The Articles for Creation backlog drive is happening in November 2023, with 700+ drafts pending reviews for in the last 4 months or so. In addition to the AfC participants, all administrators and New Page Patrollers can conduct reviews using the helper script, Yet Another AFC Helper Script, which can be enabled in the Gadgets settings. Sign up here to participate!

Hi Berig - in the Thidreks saga the character of Apollonius uses the pseudonym "Heppa" at one point while disguising himself as a woman. I haven't found this in Foerstemann - any idea where the name might come from? It looks like it's short for something. P's are of course rare in Germanic except for in Bavarian where b->p.--Ermenrich (talk) 15:01, 12 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

I believe it a short female form of heppinn, i.e. "lucky".--Berig (talk) 21:24, 12 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

PS. This word created a bit of a semantic mess for me that I had to correct. The modern Swedish form of heppinn (häpen) means "surprised" and the Swedish cognate of lucky (lycklig) means "happy".--Berig (talk) 07:23, 14 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

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  Administrator changes

 

• Ganesha811
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• Ajpolino
• Lourdes
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• RockMFR
• Somno
• WilyD

  Beeblebrox → Just Step Sideways

 

  CheckUser changes

 

• Beeblebrox
• Opabinia regalis

  Oversight changes

 

• Beeblebrox
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  Guideline and policy news

• Following a talk page discussion, the Administrators' accountability policy has been updated to note that while it is considered best practice for administrators to have notifications (pings) enabled, this is not mandatory. Administrators who do not use notifications are now strongly encouraged to indicate this on their user page.

  Arbitration

• Following a motion, the Extended Confirmed Restriction has been amended, removing the allowance for non-extended-confirmed editors to post constructive comments on the "Talk:" namespace. Now, non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace solely to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided that their actions are not disruptive.
• The Arbitration Committee has announced a call for Checkusers and Oversighters, stating that it will currently be accepting applications for CheckUser and/or Oversight permissions at any point in the year.
• Eligible users are invited to vote on candidates for the Arbitration Committee until 23:59 December 11, 2023 (UTC). Candidate statements can be seen here.

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  Administrator changes

  Clovermoss

  Dennis Brown

 

• Julia W
• Marasmusine
• PBS

 

  CheckUser changes

 

• Aoidh
• HJ Mitchell
• Sdrqaz
• Spicy
• ToBeFree
• Vanamonde93
• Z1720

  Maxim

 

• Enterprisey
• Izno
• SilkTork

  Oversighter changes

 

• Aoidh
• Firefly
• Sdrqaz
• ToBeFree
• Z1720

  Maxim

 

• Enterprisey
• Izno
• SilkTork

  Arbitration

• Following the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Aoidh, Cabayi, Firefly, HJ Mitchell, Maxim, Sdrqaz, ToBeFree, Z1720.
• Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were enacted in June 2009.
• The arbitration case Industrial agriculture has been closed.

  Miscellaneous

• The New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in January 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,000 unreviewed articles awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!

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  Administrator changes

 

• Red-tailed hawk
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• Ameliorate!
• Ancheta Wis
• Anthony Bradbury (deceased)
• Cobi
• Ev
• Moondyne
• Worm That Turned

  Bureaucrat changes

  Worm That Turned

 

  CheckUser changes

  Wugapodes

  Interface administrator changes

 

• Enterprisey
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  Guideline and policy news

• An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

  Technical news

• Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)

  Arbitration

• Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
• Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.

  Miscellaneous

• Voting in the 2024 Steward elections will begin on 06 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 27 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
• A vote to ratify the charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open till 2 February 2024, 23:59:59 (UTC) via Secure Poll. All eligible voters within the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to either support or oppose the adoption of the U4C Charter and share their reasons. The details of the voting process and voter eligibility can be found here.
• Community Tech has made some preliminary decisions about the future of the Community Wishlist Survey. In summary, they aim to develop a new, continuous intake system for community technical requests that improves prioritization, resource allocation, and communication regarding wishes. Read more
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It's been more than a year now since I was blocked and I would like to request to be unblocked as I will stick to the rules now of editing from now on. Countrymaster (talk) 13:34, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Administrator changes   Sdkb The Night Watch   East718 Isabelle Belato Mzajac Staecker Stan Shebs Sugarfish Tamzin

Bureaucrat changes   SilkTork

  Guideline and policy news

• Phase I of the 2024 RfA review is now open for participation. Editors are invited to review, comment on, and propose improvements to the requests for adminship process.
• Following an RfC, the inactivity requirement for the removal of the interface administrator right increased from 6 months to 12 months.

  Technical news

• The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)

  Miscellaneous

• The 2024 appointees for the Ombuds commission are だ＊ぜ, AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Doǵu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, MdsShakil, Minorax, Nehaoua, Renvoy and RoySmith as members, with Vermont serving as steward-observer.
• Following the 2024 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Ajraddatz, Albertoleoncio, EPIC, JJMC89, Johannnes89, Melos and Yahya.

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).

 

  Administrator changes

 

• Kbdank71
• Kosack
• NrDg
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  Guideline and policy news

• An RfC is open to convert all current and future community discretionary sanctions to (community designated) contentious topics procedure.

  Technical news

• The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)

  Arbitration

• An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".

  Miscellaneous

• Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).

  Administrator changes

  Nyttend

 

• JohnOwens
• Killiondude
• MelanieN
• Nihonjoe

  Bureaucrat changes

  Nihonjoe

 

  CheckUser changes

  Joe Roe

  Oversight changes

  GeneralNotability

  Guideline and policy news

• Phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship review has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including creating a discussion-only period (3b) and administrator elections (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as creating a reminder of civility norms (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the full report.

  Technical news

• Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531

  Arbitration

• The arbitration case Conflict of interest management has been closed.

  Miscellaneous

• This may be a good time to reach out to potential nominees to ask if they would consider an RfA.
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