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You know what, I drop out the project and you can remove that content I have already done. I understand where you are coming from, but its not like I have been contributing to another project instead of the Mimi project. The last time I had a GA nomination was THREE months ago. Clearly, the 51 GA's were done when I had the available time, but I have multiple scholarship applications due per week, in addition to three advanced placement classes I am taking, so Wikipedia is not first on my list of daily things to do per day. Most of the time Wikipedia (which is at school, mind you, where sources I would need to work on projects such as MTV are blocked), is when I remove vandalism from articles, not contributing to new projects such as Bieber articles, as you seem to believe. Secondly, I was doing this as a favor, but it seems that you think that it is my duty to contribute to this. I'm not about to put new projects above school work at the moment. Removing vandalism edits takes just a fraction of the time it would do to serve justice to the sections that I have had. Also, +100 sources sometimes say the same thing that one can, just saying. I regret not being able to contribute to the project as I should have, but I am insulted by your bad faith that I was not doing it just because I didn't feel like it and I wanted to work on Bieber articles. I haven't nominated a GA or expanded an article greatly since January, and my whole work on Wikipedia has greatly slowed. Good luck on work in the future. Candyo32 02:12, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

How can you say you were waiting 2.5 months when I was contributing to the project? May not have been on YOUR time, but I was slowly, but steadily, doing my part, just not when you wanted it, and not when I wanted it either, but it was getting done. Hahaaa, don't be so quick with words, what you say won't happen might come true! Candyo32 02:29, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back! Everything's good. TGIFY is almost complete, excluding the c/e and Live performances section. I'll be finishing it within a day or so :) Novice7 (talk) 03:27, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

What about "Dreamlover"? It's a great song, and one of Mimi's longest stays on #1. "Hero" can be done, but yes, it's quite big and there are cover versions :| Covers can be quite difficult to finish. Novice7 (talk) 06:51, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

I have started the GA review... Adabow (talk · contribs) 07:00, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

It's done now, but don't worry about any urgent fixes; I'm pretty relaxed when it comes to deadlines.

I would also like to ask you, as a friend, to take a step back and cool down. You have unnecessarily become offside with Tbhotch, Candy and Legolas. Please take a bit of a break, and remember that everyone here volunteers their time, and assume good faith. I have seen many cases of fantastic editors leaving Wikipedia because disputes have arisen and people have become uncivil. I do not want WP to lose you or any of those three; you are all amazing workers and dedicate extraordinary amounts of time to the project. Please reflect on this. Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:39, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Listed. And yeah, I am pumped for "Girl", although apparently its a dance track... I hope it's not this kind of R&B artist-turn-dance song. I mean, they're alright sorta songs, but doing that kinda turns on your R&B/hip-hop/pop fanbase for the mainstream $$$. But let's wait and see. I also hope it's better than the DC Girl, but that was pretty good... Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:09, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Nathan, it will great to have you back. I prefer not to even imagine what would have happened if we had lost such a nice, helpful, reliable and hard working editor like you. By the way, for the review, i left a few questions. And i have finally nominated my Queen B's discography for FA. Adabow is working on her videography. I think i will help him so that we can finish it before my holidays end. See you soon. Jivesh • Talk2Me 10:05, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

You do not have to be sorry. I understand. We all have a life in Wikipedia. I feel happy that you consider me as a true friend. I consider you the same. By the way, what happened? Did you have a fight with Legolas? Jivesh • Talk2Me 05:19, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Well as you know, i was not in good terms with him long ago. Even till now, we do not talk so much but at least, he no longer taunts me for my supposed childishness (though i agree i sometimes become too possessive of Beyonce). Lol. Jivesh • Talk2Me 05:22, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh Nathan, he has always been like this with me. But i no longer care. You know, i have to get along because he really helps sometimes. Can i show you something? Jivesh • Talk2Me 05:35, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for my late reply (above). I had to go to the shop urgently. That's why i could not reply quickly. Jivesh • Talk2Me 05:48, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Have a look at my GAR for "If I Were A Boy". Source. He even called Beyonce a banshee. To tell you frankly, i was very angry that day but i stayed calm. Jivesh • Talk2Me 05:57, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Nathan, it seems like the matter is becoming more and more serious. You and Legolas will not talk again, right? I saw it on his talk-page. No matter what happens, you will always remain my friend. Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:31, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Wow, i also thought of a Mariah song while leaving my previous message. I thought of "Always Be My Baby". But do not get me wrong. Lol. It was just a silly thought. I was thing of replacing Baby with *Friend*. Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:37, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Nathan, i saw Adabow's message. And please do not get me wrong but i am worried for you. I mean you stopped talking to so many people here. I just hope the next one will not be me. (Just joking). But Nathan, try to think with a cool mind. Was it necessary to do all that? Why don't you just ignore those things? I know it is not easy but my point is that if you will stop talking to so many editors, you might lose interest in Wikipedia. Please try to understand what i am tying to tell you. I do not want to lose your friendship. And yes, i will never let you down as well. Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:44, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

I sincerely hope you will never leave because i found a true friend in you. By the way, did you get latest news about Beyonce? Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:54, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

I am so excited. See you later. Take care. Jivesh • Talk2Me 07:25, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

I did not really understand. Jivesh • Talk2Me 07:40, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Nathan. That kind of *panicked* me for sure. Jivesh • Talk2Me 07:49, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Nathan. Its good to have you back. Sorry I didn't comment or welcome you back earlier. I find all these international charts confusing sometimes when I edit at night :S. Also I know I've brought it up before when we were discussing Jennifer Lopez and Mariah Carey sales... what do you make of The Official Charts Company listing Lopez's world record sales as 55 million. It seems hard to believe... Before, when the news reported it I was sceptical but when an IFPI affiliated company starts reporting things like that... — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 00:20, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Chime in. I Help, When I Can. ^[12] 02:04, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Since so many songs in Wikipedia include the mini-track listing in the info bar, I just wanted to include them in the Mariah Carey ones. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.196.200.160 (talk) 06:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Hello Nathan! Yes, you can call me "Mahadev" or just "Maghu" :D I did a quick research and found a few sources. I'll provide more later :) Washington Post, Star-News, Boston Herald, Newsday, Baltimore Sun, Orlando Sentinel. Seems like all these sources state a lot about "Dreamlover", lol. Good luck with "Hero" (especially the cover versions) Novice7 (talk) 03:47, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

I added the cp for the chorus, but the verses don't seem to have a pattern.... Maybe someone more musically knowledgable can help? Adabow (talk · contribs) 04:34, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi Nathan. Hope you are fine. I need your help. Again, it's for a c/e. Can you please copy edit the lead for Beyoncé Knowles videography? Remove any information you deem as useless over there. The lead is massive. Jivesh • Talk2Me 08:52, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry Nathan. I know you are working on "Hero". Best of luck and yes, i have removed the chart. The editor was right. Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:45, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for passing the article. Jivesh • Talk2Me 05:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Take your time Nathan. Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:47, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Do whatever you deem as appropriate Nathan. I have full faith in you. And i know that whatever task you undertake, you do it just right. I am working on this for the time being. A little change. Brief escape from Beyonce. Lol. But just brief. Jivesh • Talk2Me 09:03, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

To be frank i have *always* like her but not her music .But this song is just like *wow*. Watch the video when you have some free time. Jivesh • Talk2Me 09:13, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

I just wanted to let you know that I got a message that the mini track listing in the info bar for the songs is used for navigational purposes, so I'm only adding in the ones for Mariah Carey where there is a link on one or more of the tracks befoer it. And by the way, the correct year for her birth is 1969. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.196.200.160 (talk) 02:45, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi, "Hero" was ranked at number 19 on French year-end chart for 1994. I didn't find another year-end chart :s but I added credits and references for track listing :) Pixelyoshi (discuter) 11:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I missed your message earlier. Oh, I saw it.. It's big.. And, I hope the next project is 'Dreamlover' (as I said, there are lotss of reviews for it). Lol, you deserve a break after that big project :D Novice7 (talk) 04:02, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi! Have you got the Billboard book of number two hits ? Pixelyoshi (discuter) 17:29, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

I make a sandbox for "Girls Just Want to Have Fun", a number-two hit in U.S.A, but it's difficult ! I discovered Mariah thanks to you. Before, I knew few songs : "Without You" (her signature song in France), "AIWFCIY", "We Belong Together", "Touch My Body" and "Obsessed". Pixelyoshi (discuter) 20:03, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Do you what the silver spherical building Usher is dancing in front of in the Nice & Slow video? Adabow (talk · contribs) 04:57, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Is it in Paris? And, maybe this would help? Novice7 (talk) 05:02, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Nice work :) Hmmm, thing is it isn't a building, it looks like a small park center or something like that :S. Its funny to see Usher so young, he used to look so much better! BTW, Perez just showed a promo for Beyonce's new song. Wow, I must say it is one of the fiercest shots I've seen in years. Take a look. Yes, I am happy to have finished that sucker, I promise "Dreamlover" is next :D--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 06:25, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Novice! And Nathan, I hope B doesn't do the darkening sorta thing (a la Good Girl Gone Bad/Rated R) - that kinda weirded me out lol. But I heard the leaked snippet and it's AMAZING!! Adabow (talk · contribs) 07:02, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Lol, well judging from the pic, I think you're going to have to deal with the whole dark side thing again :P. Lol, I don't judge until I hear the full song. Many times I've judged early and wound up liking the song (Till the World Ends, S&M) (So far that means I don't like it lol) :)--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 07:05, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

I hated S&M when it came out too, but it's quite catchy. Brit-Brit's vocals on the remix are a bit...strange... Anyway, seeing as MC is popular in Korea, I wondered if you know much about the Korean chart. There are two entries for Beyonce - "Honesty". One is in the "년 다운로드" ('Download year', according to Google translate), and the other in "년 디지털종합" (Digital Comprehensive years). Ummm... Adabow (talk · contribs) 03:36, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks anyway. And I just listened to Judas, and it's dumb. It's sorta 80s pop - but not the good type lol. And there are so many bublical misrepresentations around the song. Judas betrays Jesus once, and Peter disowns Jesus three times. (I dunno if you're religious or not...) My friend, who was a major Gaga fan before BTW reckons it's a rip-off from Bad Romance, but I can't really see the similarities. And have you seen the album cover? LMAO. Adabow (talk · contribs) 01:28, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Hehe, Honey B won't disappoint. Don't you worry... As I was saying to Novice, Lady Gaga is a bit of an attention slut, so it becomes very easy for her stuff to be disappointing. Whereas B has kept quite quiet - all the info we have got is because of sneaky paparazzi and leaks. Adabow (talk · contribs) 03:14, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Damn right! Only ten days to go! (I think the rumoured date was April 26?) Adabow (talk · contribs) 03:21, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm, you reckon Perry's done with TD? After four straight #1s, I reckon she'll try and push another, unless there's another album to come out (or one of those blimin deluxe editions). I'm not really a Katy fan, but she really seems to be winning! Adabow (talk · contribs) 03:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Of course I'll find as many sources as I can. Would you mind if I do so tomorrow (Indian time)? Novice7 (talk) 16:40, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

The article Rainbow (Mariah Carey album) you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Rainbow (Mariah Carey album) for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a reassessment. Jezhotwells (talk) 01:20, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey! Sorry it took so long for me to respond. Also, aside from MJ and Mariah, we have another thing in common: Family Guy =). I've actually always wanted to make the "I'll Be There" songs (which I think should have individual pages) at least GA level, but for the past several months I haven't been as active on Wikipedia as I use to, so I won't be much of help. Sorry =/. Someone that I think could be helpful to ask working on the MJ project is User:Parabola1999. Thanks for the invite to the Mariah project and good luck! And, if I might add, you've done an awesome job on the Mariah articles! Crystal Clear x3 06:50, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

I have made a few edits in the page according to your suggestions. Please note that I haven't removed the sentence saying "Rahman has sold more than 300 million records", instead I modified it as "Rahman has a claimed sale of more than 300 million and is world's all-time top selling recording artists". This statement is not against the consensus reached at List of best-selling music artists. The lead of that article itself says that Rahman is not included in the list because his sales has not been certified. Hence there also it is indirectly agreed that Rahman has made that much claimed sales. Also note that the statement "By the end of 2003, Rahman had sold more than 150 million records of his film scores and soundtracks for over 50 film scores worldwide.", is not conflicting with what is said in the lead. It is clarified in the lead that 300 million record sale is as of 2009 and the 150 million sales described here is as that of 2003. -- Arfaz (talk) 16:02, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Pls let me know that, what is "the largest one you pointed out twice". Thalapathi (Ping Back) 13:58, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

• About.com Review for both "Dreamlover" and "Hero".
• PopMatters Review "Dreamlover.
• Slant Magazine ..... 1993's "Dreamlover" incorporated the Emotions's "Blind Alley" as sweetly as possible.
• Allmusic "Dreamlover" and "Hero".
• The New York Times ........girl-group update ("Dreamlover"). But they are good-natured, catchy vehicles for vocal display..
• Entertainment Weekly "Dreamlover" (Somehow mixed to positive).
• Rolling Stone... A review for "Hero".
• Teen Ink... "Dreamlover" which also was at the top of MTV's music video chart for a couple of weeks.
• Slant Magazine... she also curiously shifted from Marilyn Monroe-esque coyness, singing about being rescued by imaginary white knights ("Dreamlover").

Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:05, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

I am very happy you liked it. Jivesh • Talk2Me 12:04, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Nathan i will be retiring from Wikipedia this month itself. Before i go, i have a big favor to ask you but it might take some of your time (like 45 minutes). will you be able to do one last thing for me? Please. Jivesh • Talk2Me 13:53, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

What i want to ask you you is to write a better lead for Beyonce biography article. Will you do it? Jivesh • Talk2Me 00:39, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

I am fine. Thanks for asking. But i am very busy in real life. Very very very busy. Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:16, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I want to join Wikipedia Mariah Carey Project. I love her voice ! It can be pure or raspy, resonant and bright or thin and breathy. Her technique and musicianship are so perfect. She truly has a wonderful instrument ! SemiramideSutherland (talk) 19:43, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank You ; ) SemiramideSutherland (talk) 20:39, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi! Just get your message about the plan of "I'll be there". I'm interested in it of course, but I don't know how to start it, what about to make a discussion here? --Parabola1999 (talk) 10:19, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Here :) Pixelyoshi (discuter) 18:27, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

I finished it. Please quickly reply Pixelyoshi (discuter) 19:55, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

"Crybaby" is now GA :) Pixelyoshi (discuter) 10:12, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey Nathan ! :D Thanks for "GJWTHF". You can scan here. Pixelyoshi (discuter) 09:27, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm so sorry for being late. I had an important exam today :) I'll post the reviews in a moment, and for sourcing Oprah episode you can use {{cite episode}}. Fill as much as you can and voila ;) And, TGIFY article, thank you soo much!!! I'll be formatting the refs of that article soon :) Novice7 (talk) 09:11, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Reviews:-

• "the irrepressibly bubbly Dreamlover"
• Latimes1
• Latimes2
• Latimes3
• Orlando Sentinel
• (The hammond-organ fueled "Dreamlover" opens Music Box (Press-Telegram)
• Baltimore Sun
• Newsday (Discusses Instruments)
• Maybe a concert review?
• Remix review
• Concert?
• Lol -> This is funny
• Is this of any use?
• Is it useful?
• Same as above
• Single word
• Review of Concert
• Concert review

That's all I could find, lol. Novice7 (talk) 09:48, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey Nathan! I fixed some issues on "Crybaby" GA. I hope it's okay :) Novice7 (talk) 03:46, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

I'll give it a c/e :) Next song... What about "Someday" or my fave "Make It Happen"? Novice7 (talk) 09:04, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Great! Btw, I saw that you have requested the BB #2 its Book. When you receive it, can you scan me Whitney's "Heartbreak Hotel"? Novice7 (talk) 09:13, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Yes, I heard it. I find it too different from her other songs :\ Novice7 (talk) 09:27, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Would this be useful? Novice7 (talk) 09:36, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I hope it's reliable 'cause I'm going to use for filling "Run to You". No, it must be reliable.. It's just an interview with Walter... Yes, I saw he nominated it too. But, I'm sure he would complete TEOM. He said that to me a few days ago :) And, yes, TEOM deserves to be an FA. Novice7 (talk) 10:20, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Omg, I feel that too. We like Mimi's older works more (I guess you do too), and a transition to the newer records proves to be difficult. Let's wait, and I'm 1000% sure TEOM will get that bronze star :D And, did I tell you that I was thinking of fixing up Glitter soundtrack? I'll do that after I complete TGIFY (just needs ref formatting) Novice7 (talk) 10:29, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

You're right :) And, I'd love to fix Charmbracelet with you. But, it would take some time (I need to gather sources). Is it okay with you? Also, from May I might become less active (studies, exams, sigh) When do you want it completed? Novice7 (talk) 10:39, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm.. What about May 15 (Sunday)? Novice7 (talk) 10:45, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Done! June 15 it is :) Novice7 (talk) 10:48, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

(→) Well, I'll take Background, Singles, Lead, Chart performance.. I'll help out on the rest too. Novice7 (talk) 10:54, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Great :) Novice7 (talk) 10:58, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Nathan, the Music video section of "Hero" needs some sources. Maybe Shapiro has some information? Novice7 (talk) 11:00, 21 April 2011 (UTC)