Talk:Alan Rose (public servant)

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Requested move 29 October 2024

It has been proposed in this section that Alan Rose (public servant) be renamed and moved to Alan Rose (Australian public servant).

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Alan Rose (public servant) → Alan Rose (Australian public servant) – WP:AT ambiguous disambiguation is a bad idea wP:PRECISE multiple public servants named Alan Rose with articles on Wikipedia, particularly, the nominal primary topic is a British judge, Alan Rose; The article should be moved without leaving a redirect behind, as there's no disambiguation page for "Alan Rose" to repoint it to. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 11:48, 28 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:23, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moved from WP:RMTR as a contested speedy request:

This title is fine as it is; unless you instead want a DAB out of "Alan Rose"! Intrisit (talk) 14:59, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I was going to say this would be fine as is too. "Public servant" appears to have a fairly narrow meaning of someone working in the civil service, so this isn't ambiguous as far as I can see, at least with the judge. The fact that the OP suggested suppressing the redirect altogether tells us that this is already the correct title anyway, otherwise it would redirect somewhere. — Amakuru (talk) 15:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, if we kept the redirect, it would have to redirect to the judge. Judges are public servants, thus this is a bad disambiguation. Judges are employed by the government, thus public employees, thus public servants. Judges are not private sector workers. This judge was part of the colonial service, a governmental sector of the British Empire. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:18, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Support. Judges are indeed public servants. Whilst the Public Service is the Australian term for what elsewhere is called the Civil Service, that doesn't mean "public servant" as used in Australia supersedes the common usage of the term elsewhere in the world, where it tends to be a generic term for any person who serves in an official appointment. -- Necrothesp (talk) 17:02, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]