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Page: Widest path problem (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: Lovely dolphin (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 19:15, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "The rule is "Except for a link to an official page of the article's subject, ...", https://github.com/mike-liuliu/Algorithm_4 is the official code of Algorithm 4. So it is an acceptable external link. Undid revision 1237223434 by XOR'easter (talk)"
2. 17:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "Python code of Algorithm 4 can be found at https://github.com/mike-liuliu/Algorithm_4. It is the fastest algorithm for solving the all points path distance (APPD) matrix by far. If you know a faster or earlier O(n^2) time algorithm for calculating the APPD matrix than Algorithm 4, please provide the URL of the code implementation of the algorithm. Undid revision 1237199479 by David Eppstein (talk)"
3. 12:34, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "Please show the URL of the code so that people can verify your claim. Undid revision 1237130479 by David Eppstein (talk)"
4. 01:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "Really? "Talk is cheap. Show me the code." Undid revision 1237075058 by David Eppstein (talk)"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning: [1]

Comments: Another one since this report was filed: 19:34, 28 July 2024 (UTC). --JBL (talk) 19:37, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Indefinitely blocked.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:57, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page: Creature Commandos (TV series) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: 65.94.124.30 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 18:34, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237217873 by Trailblazer101 (talk)"
2. 17:51, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237192417 by Trailblazer101 (talk)"
3. 10:37, 27 July 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1236926221 by Trailblazer101 (talk) it was revealed in the teaser trailer"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

1. 18:23, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "Final warning: Vandalism on Creature Commandos (TV series)."

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

Repeatedly reverting to reinstate their own edits after it was explained how they were incorrect or not a standard. Has a history of disruptive editing across these comic book adaptation articles. Trailblazer101 (talk) 22:56, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The IP has continued to persist in restoring their preferred version without providing any explanation for their reverts, and continues to despite violating the WP:3RR. Trailblazer101 (talk) 00:50, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked – for a period of 24 hours Daniel Case (talk) 03:57, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page: Lucy Letby (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: HouseplantHobbyist (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 21:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237439917 by Gumlau (talk) Due weight and quotes have already been given to that Guardian article"
2. Consecutive edits made from 19:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC) to 19:54, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
   1. 19:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "Removed from intro per Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a newspaper. This gives recent news reports, which themselves are disputed, far too much prominence in the intro"
   2. 19:52, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "Range of issues here that need to be addressed, some of these things are already undergoing on an ongoing discussion on talk. Some other problems with POV commentary and lack of sources for parts"
   3. 19:54, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "No this is still under disupte and discussion at Talk:Lucy Letby#RSEDITORIAL. It may be that it is restored but not yet"
   4. 19:54, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "Removed from intro per Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a newspaper. This gives recent news reports, which themselves are disputed, far too much prominence in the intro"
3. 07:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237127569 by PerSeAnd (talk) Please see WP:BLPRESTORE and WP:ONUS. Continued reversions will also mean you are in breach of WP:3RR, which I have already warned you about. There is also an ongoing talk page discussion already, so there can be no excuse for more"
4. 07:15, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237125147 by PerSeAnd (talk) Yes it is, look again"
5. 06:28, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "See talk page discussion in which this content is currently in dispute"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

User was warned about edit-warring on 27 May 2024[2] and 19 July 2024[3], both times about this article (the only one Houseplant Hobbyist has edited in the last 6 months). They were reported on 20 July 2024 and the article protected for 2 days.[4] They have continued to discuss at Talk:Lucy Letby, where they are in dispute with several editors, none of whom are in agreement with HouseplantHobbyist. They have made five reverts, of different material by various editors, in about two hours. They justified two of them in edit summaries as "undergoing an ongoing discussion" and "still under dispute and discussion", but this looks more like claiming to have a veto so long as they keep posting on the talk page. NebY (talk) 22:24, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:NebY, whilst you were making this report I had just updated the article to attempt to incorporate a large amount of the content that editors wanted in, just in a more appropriate and NPOV way: [5]. If you had just waited a minute, you could have worked with my reinstation of some form of the content I removed in those reversions. previous reversions. If I hadn't already done this big edit which involved multiple self-reversions, I would self-revert my own edits. But as you can see, a lot of that stuff that I reverted before I have now restored in what seems to me to be a much more NPOV way. Let me demonstrate how some of those reversions have now been restored by myself:

1. 1 [6] "See talk page discussion in which this content is currently in dispute" - that content has now been restored in a slightly reduced way with the most recent edit: [7]
2. 2 [8] "Undid revision 1237125147 by PerSeAnd (talk) Yes it is, look again" - see above
3. 3 [9] "Undid revision 1237127569 by PerSeAnd (talk) Please see WP:BLPRESTORE and WP:ONUS. Continued reversions will also mean you are in breach of WP:3RR, which I have already warned you about. There is also an ongoing talk page discussion already, so there can be no excuse for more" - see above
4. 4 [10] "No this is still under disupte and discussion at Talk:Lucy Letby#RSEDITORIAL. It may be that it is restored but not yet" - see above
5. 5 [11] "Range of issues here that need to be addressed, some of these things are already undergoing on an ongoing discussion on talk. Some other problems with POV commentary and lack of sources for parts" - My most recent edit [12] re-incorporated some of that content, e.g. the Dr Hammond part in Private Eye, which I specifically went out to find a separate secondary source for to back up and this time added back in with that
6. 6 These two - [13] and [14] Removed from intro per Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a newspaper. This gives recent news reports, which themselves are disputed, far too much prominence in the intro - are actually just one revert, I just had to repeat it because it got lost in the temporary rollbacking I did here: [15].

In short, most of those reverts I did I then self-reverted as part of one big edit here: [16] that attempted to incorporate much of what those reverted edit's had expressed, but in what I thought was a much more NPOV and balanced way, with appropriate sourcing and wording. Yes I have probably done a few too many reversions, but I've also not partially self-reverted in doing that big edit incorporating a lot of the previously reverted content. HouseplantHobbyist (talk) 22:56, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yesterday, 28 July 2024, you gave a 3RR warning to another editor.[17] You should read it. NebY (talk) 22:41, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Blocked – for a period of one week. Bbb23 (talk) 22:58, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page: ThorCon nuclear reactor (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: Avatar317 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 23:05, 26 July 2024
2. 23:23, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237240527 by VQuakr (talk) Contested content doesn't belong in an article unless there is CONSENSUS for it to be there. AGAIN: Per WP:ONUS: "The responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content.""
3. 19:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237214679 by VQuakr (talk) Unless an Independent Source mentions the viewpoint of UCS, the mere existence of UCS and them publishing content on their website about this reactor does NOT make it acceptable to have in this article. It WP:UNDUEly represents their opinion. Per WP:ONUS: "The responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content.""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

1. 20:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "/* WP:EW */ new section"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

1. 18:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "/* Neutrality of this article */ re"
2. 20:46, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "/* Neutrality of this article */ re"

Comments:

Ongoing edit warring behavior at this and other articles. Gaming 3RR and stonewalling per edit summary at [18]. Previously warned for similar behavior at Linear no-threshold model (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Shouting. VQuakr (talk) 00:10, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Declined Citing WP:ONUS is not a particularly unambiguous example of gaming 3RR or stonewalling, and the previous warning alluded to above was from VQuakr after Avatar317 made a single revert to another article 10 days ago. If this issue merited a block, both of you would be subject to it, but it doesn't seem warrant that at this time. @VQuakr and Avatar317: I would highly suggest both of you cease reverting on this article until there is a consensus for or against, using WP:DR if necessary. Continued reverting may likely result in blocks, even if it is only one additional revert. - Aoidh (talk) 17:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page: Alternative for Germany (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: Ajnh0320 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 23:39, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "Ideology is revised to National conservatism, Social conservatism, Right-wing populism, Ultraconservatism, Russophilia, Euroscepticism, Identitarianism, Nativism, German nationalism, Reactionism, Anti-immigration, Anti-feminism, Christian nationalism, Anti-communism, Economic liberalism. Factions is revised to Neo-fascism, Neo-Nazism, Völkisch nationalism, and Pan-Germanism. Please Do not revert to the original document."
2. 12:33, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "Ideology is revised to National conservatism, Social conservatism, Right-wing populism, Ultraconservatism, Russophilia, Euroscepticism, Identitarianism, Nativism, German nationalism, Reactionism, Anti-immigration, Anti-feminism, Christian nationalism, Anti-communism, Economic liberalism. Factions is revised to Neo-fascism, Neo-Nazism, Völkisch nationalism, and Pan-Germanism."
3. 11:02, 29 July 2024 (UTC) ""
4. 10:04, 29 July 2024 (UTC) ""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

1. 11:10, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "/* Alternative for Germany */ new section"
2. 12:38, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Alternative for Germany."
3. 19:55, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "/* Ideology warring */ new section"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

Ajnh0320 is a relatively new account who has a habit of mass-changing political ideoligies (WP:IDWAR) on pages. Their changes are always unsourced,[19][20][21][22] contradict existing sources,[23] delete existing sources,[24][25] and ignore comments requesting editors to get consensus before changing.[26] Despite numerous attempts at communication they've failed to respond. — Czello ^(music) 07:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He is also in an investigation for being a sockpuppet. One of the other sockpuppets (Hidolo) with the same owner has been permanently blocked for constant edit warring (on en.wiki) Odideum (talk) 08:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Blocked – for a period of 24 hours Aoidh (talk) 17:43, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page: Joseph Lister (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: 143.159.107.27 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 10:20, 30 July 2024 (UTC) "The National Portrait Gallery calls him English, the site Histiry Today does, the National Institute of Health does and his father on here is called English!!! His surname search on wiki puts his name as origin of English in the word box!!!"
2. 01:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC) "his father has been called english since he was first entered on here! i can’t see what the issue is! he was born and raised here just like his father. if the surgeon Hunter is called Scottish and not british then lister should be called English. hunter originated with the saxon’s who migrated thru these isles. admins are bias and prejudice and have been in the job too long that they have gone beyond all common sense and human decency. it’s farcical and petty. no wonder people do not trust o..."
3. 21:32, 29 July 2024 (UTC) ""
4. 04:44, 29 July 2024 (UTC) ""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

1. 09:45, 25 July 2024 (UTC) on User talk:143.159.107.27 "/* Ethnicity */ new section"

Comments:

Has repeatedly changed nationality over the last week, mainly on the basis of the origins of his name. Attempts on their talk page, but refuses to discuss other than in edit summary rants. Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 11:25, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked – for a period of 24 hours Daniel Case (talk) 17:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page: Belal Muhammad (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Page: List of UFC champions (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: Nswix (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 20:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC) "that doesnt establish notability. dont change until a concencus is formed"
2. 01:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC) "per MOS:ETHNICITY"

1. 20:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237643110 by ProdigyUpdates"
2. 19:43, 30 July 2024 (UTC) "Those are that way because it is proven that they have that nationality. not because of what they choose to walkout with. this isnt politically motivated, just keep it consistent with their nationalities."

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

1. 18:16, 30 July 2024 (UTC) on Talk:List_of_UFC_champions "Belal Muhammad's Flag: new section"

Comments:

Continuously changes nationality and flags on athlete's page and various UFC related pages despite consensus already being reached on various talk pages. They are also violating MOS:ETHNICITY since notability of ethnicity has been clearly established on Talk:Belal_Muhammad, 30 July 2024 (UTC) ProdigyUpdates (talk) 21:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• None of these are three reverts. Nswix (talk) 21:10, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just because you did not hit the 'undo' button to revert the change does not take away from the obvious intent and ultimate result. ProdigyUpdates (talk) 21:14, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus on this issue has most definitely not been reached yet. Belal has been listed under the American flag on Wikipedia for over 3 years now. Rcpilot9 (talk) 21:26, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eight years. His page has said American since it was created in 2016 Nswix (talk) 21:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• No violation on either article. Bbb23 (talk) 21:29, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page: Belal Muhammad (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Page: UFC rankings (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Page: Ultimate Fighting Championship (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Page: List of UFC records (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: ProdigyUpdates (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. Diff
2. Diff
3. Diff

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: Diff

Comments:

Has dug their heels in about an American athlete of Palestinian ethnicity, who ‘must be labeled as Palestinian, because they walk out with an Palestinian flag’, despite there being no evidence of Palestinian nationality and it not meeting MOS:ETHNICITY. I get its a hot topic, but we cant just keep reverting pages that have been uncontentious for years, because you decided its not right. Nswix (talk) 21:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• User continues to spread misinformation. I have never used that quote. This athlete is listed by UFC and ESPN as a Palestinian fighter which is enough to establish notability. I'm afraid the user may be using their personal political motivation to discredit these obvious facts. ProdigyUpdates (talk) 21:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have over 15,000 edits in the martial arts space, none of which have ever been described as politically motivated. You have 200, most in the last couple of day and all concerning one athlete. Nswix (talk) 21:25, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All the more unfortunate that as an experienced Wikipedian, you cannot keep your personal bias aside when dealing with uncontested facts that clearly meet MOS:ETHNICITY standards and all reputable UFC and ESPN websites listing the athlete as Palestinian. ProdigyUpdates (talk) 21:29, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• As far as I can tell, ProdigyUpdates did not violate 3RR on any of the articles listed. Another admin may be willing to evaluate PU's overall conduct and whether it's sanctionable; my recommendation is that this be brought to ANI. I should also mention that at List of UFC champions both PU and Rcpilot9 have violated 3RR.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:36, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• It was just at AIV, they pointed us here. Do we really have to play this out in a third place? Nswix (talk) 22:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Blocked – for a period of 2 weeks ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Democratic Party vice presidential candidate selection (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Jchs08 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [27]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [28]
2. [29]
3. [30]
4. [31]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [diff]

Comments:

• Blocked – for a period of 48 hours, plus Legobro99 indefinitely. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]