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Good evening,

Forgive my ignorance and the strange question but I read some articles on the internet that alarmed me a little. What are the risks of playing and winning at non-AAMs foreign casinos? because I read that you risk heavy fines and prison. I requested a withdrawal of a winnings from my gaming account on one of these sites and now I'm paranoid because there are several entries and exits on my personal account. Do I really risk fines and prison?

Buonasera,

perdonate l'ignoranza e la domanda strana ma ho letto degli articoli su internet che mi hanno un po allarmata. Quali sono i rischi del giocare vincere sui casino stranieri non aams? perchè ho letto che si rischiano multe salate e carcere. Ho richiesto il prelievo di una vincita dal conto gioco su uno di questi siti e ora sono in paranoia perchè sul conto personale ci sono diversi movimenti di entrata e uscita. Rischio davvero multe e carcere?

Of course, if you can give me some guidance, I'll gladly listen to you.

Certo se sai darmi qualche indicazione ti ascolto volentieri.

Hey, don't think you'd have to go through anything like that. After all, then anyone playing in a casino not from their own country would have to go to jail, and that would be pretty nonsense. 

But of course I would always recommend playing in casinos licensed in your country because if something goes wrong you always have someone to turn to. 

So that's all I would say on the subject. 

Thanks Jaro, this consoles me. In any case, to be more relaxed, I won't play anymore from now on, I had no idea that they weren't completely legal since they also require document verification. I hope I don't come off as stupid for what I asked but I'm too anxious about something like that, reading those articles really agitated me, but now I'm more relaxed knowing that it's not a real consequence. I await the crediting of the latest winnings and will no longer enter the site, I sincerely hope that there will be no repercussions of any kind. Thanks again for the answer.

Grazie Jaro, questo mi consola. In ogni caso per stare più tranquilla d’ora in poi non giocherò più, non avevo idea che non fossero del tutto regolari visto che richiedono anche la verifica dei documenti. Spero di non risultare una stupida per ciò che ho chiesto ma sono troppo ansiosa per una cosa del genere, leggere quegli articoli mi ha veramente agitata, ma ora sono più rilassata sapendo che non é una reale conseguenza. Attendo l’accredito delle ultime vincite e non entro più nel sito, spero vivamente che non ci siano ripercussioni di alcun tipo. Grazie ancora per la risposta.

You're welcome. Many players play on sites or in casinos that are not in their country. Of course, there are countries where gambling is absolutely banned and illegal, in which case I can imagine that problems could arise if it came to that. But there are very few such countries and, if I am not mistaken, Italy is not one of them. 

Of course, you don't have to feel bad at all for asking, that's why we are here to help and advise. 

So I will wait for your update and hopefully you will get your money as soon as possible. 

But can I also know about which casino it is ? 

The casino in question is Winnita. I had some initial problems and had opened a complaint because I couldn't pass the document verification and therefore withdraw. Then after about 11 days and hundreds of attempts the verification finally passed and from that moment on I withdrew without problems. Now they told me I have to wait 14 days for the last requested withdrawal to be processed. I will update you on the outcome as soon as there are developments. In fact, in Italy gambling is regulated but legal, so there should not be excessive risks. But now my priority remains not having any kind of legal problem.

Il Casino in questione é winnita. Ho avuto un po’ di problemi iniziali e avevo aperto un reclamo perché non riuscivo a passare la verifica dei documenti e quindi a prelevare. Poi dopo circa 11 giorni e centinaia di tentativi la verifica è finalmente passata e da quel momento ho prelevato senza problemi. Ora mi hanno detto che devo attendere 14 giorni affinché l’ultimo prelievo richiesto venga elaborato. VI aggiornerò sull’esito non appena ci saranno sviluppi. In effetti in Italia il gioco d’azzardo è regolamentato ma legale, quindi non dovrebbero esserci rischi eccessivi. Ma ora la mia priorità resta non avere alcun tipo di problema legale.

I think that 11 or even 14 days is a fairly long period for a regular withdrawal. Maybe you know why it takes so long.

If it is okay with you, may I ask what payment method you chose? One way or another, we will undoubtedly wait for more information.

If I may add, I think it is very responsible of you to be concerned about licenses and legality, and I hope it will encourage other players to exercise similar caution. 👍

Hi Radka, they have a special regulation according to which the more you win, the more days you have to wait for the withdrawal. I can't complain because it is precisely specified in the regulation. I won 4000 euros so I'll have to wait and see if everything goes as it should. I attach the screen with this particular specification. And I'll update you on how the situation will evolve. 

Ciao Radka, hanno un regolamento particolare secondo il quale più vinci e più diventano i giorni di attesa del prelievo. Non mi posso lamentare perché é appunto specificato nel regolamento. Io ho vinto 4000 euro quindi dovrò attendere e si vedrà se andrà tutto come deve andare. Vi allego lo screen con questa specifica particolare. E vi aggiorno di come si evolverà la situazione. 

oh I forgot to answer your question. I chose credit card credit as my withdrawal method.

ah ho dimentica di rispondere a una tua domanda. Ho scelto come metodo di prelievo l’accredito su carta di credito.

I probably wouldn't play in such a casino if you have to wait for more and more withdrawals depending on the amount. If there were any problems and you didn't get your money by then, then you would have to wait even longer ? I know that players and casinos often deal with technical difficulties that may arise and it may not be the casino's responsibility, but I still find it quite a lot if you have to wait up to 21 days in some cases. But if you're OK with that then everything is fine and we'll wait for the update.

Also, thanks for mentioning the method to withdraw, it's one of the most common ones. Is it also possible to withdraw using the crypto ? I suppose it doesn't matter too much if the casino sticks to its time limits. Or am I wrong and you have tried another method and the money arrived earlier than it should ? 

Good morning Jaro, the waiting times are the same regardless of the withdrawal method. The support says that it depends on the amount of requests being processed, but I am sure that the real sense is to leave the balance on the gaming account more time to tempt the player to use it and perhaps end it before it is paid. This is my thought. I only used the card credit method and once a bank transfer and the times were always long. I also think that it is an excessive wait that does not incentivize me to continue using the site, regardless I don't think I will continue to use it, I am just waiting for the payment. Let's hope everything goes well.

Buongiorno Jaro, i tempi d’attesa sono quelli a prescindere dal metodo di prelievo. L’assistenza dice che dipende dalla mole di richieste in elaborazione, ma sono certa che il senso reale sia lasciare il saldo sul conto gioco più tempo per tentare il giocatore a utilizzarlo e magari terminarlo prima che venga versato. Questo è un mio pensiero. Io ho utilizzato solo il metodo dell’accredito su carta e una volta bonifico bancario e i tempi sono stati sempre lunghi. Penso anche io che sia un’attesa eccessiva che non incentiva a continuare a utilizzare il sito, io a prescindere non credo che continuerò ad utilizzarlo, sono solo in attesa del versamento. Speriamo vada tutto bene.

Yes, in fact it looks like you might be right. Sometimes it's unnecessarily long and casinos have a stalling tactic. So you think it's great to just leave the money and see what happens. It's the smartest thing to do. We'll see how this whole thing plays out.

Good morning, it also happened to me to play in internationally licensed casinos.

And he receives winnings that are never greater than the deposits.

How I should behave.

Do I need to add them to my tax return?

Buongiorno è capitato anche a me giocare su casinò con licenza internazionale.

E riceve vincite che non sono mai superiori ai versamenti.

Come comportarmi.

Devo aggiungerli alla dichiarazione dei redditi?

I believe you should contact your accountant and ask this question. They should know the answer for sure.😉

Have you tried that?

No, not yet

I was asking because maybe someone was already aware.

Thank you

No ancora no

Chiedevo perché magari qualcuno era già al corrente.

Grazie

In each state, wins can be taxed differently so I guess either a player from Italy will answer you or try to find some information that might tell you what you need to do. 😉

Good morning, I wanted to update you on what happens with the requested withdrawal, of 4000 euros I have only received 800 to date, upon requesting explanations I was initially told that we were within the 14 day deadline. In the meantime, having played again and won, I requested another withdrawal but the previous one remains pending, I contacted support again who told me that: having requested a new withdrawal, the 14 days are counted from the last request. Something ridiculous. Basically, who knows when and if I will see these funds. In light of the facts, I absolutely advise against the casino, starting from the assumption that I am certain that if you had not intervened I would not have passed the validation of the documents which were CONSTANTLY refused AND WITHOUT ANY REASON, it took me 12 days for a check with the funds blocked even in that case. The 14 working day waiting policy was already excessive but even extending the deadline and having it start over again with each new withdrawal request seems out of this world to me. Absolutely rejected! They act clever and nobody likes clever people.

Buongiorno, volevo aggiornarvi di quanto accade con il prelievo richiesto, di 4000 euro ho ricevuto ad oggi unicamente 800, alla richiesta di spiegazioni mi è stato inizialmente detto che rientravamo nel termine dei 14 giorni. Nel frattempo avendo nuovamente giocato e vinto ho richiesto un altro prelievo ma il precedente rimane in attesa, ho contattato nuovamente l'assistenza che mi ha detto che: avendo richiesto un nuovo prelievo i 14 giorni si contano a partire dall'ultima richiesta. Una cosa ridicola. Praticamente questi fondi chissà quando e se li vedrò. Alla luce dei fatti sconsiglio assolutamente il casinò, partendo dal presupposto che sono certa che se non foste intervenuti voi non arei passato la validazione dei documenti che rifiutavano COSTANTEMENTE E SENZA ALCUN MOTIVO, ho impiegato 12 giorni per una verifica con i fondi bloccati anche in quel caso. La politica di attesa di 14 giorni lavorativi era già eccessiva ma addirittura prorogare il termine e farlo ripartire da capo a ogni nuova richiesta di prelievo mi sembra fuori dal mondo. Bocciato assolutamente! Fanno i furbetti e i furbetti non piacciono a nessuno.

A similar situation happened to me, but without answers, 20 days without receiving anything... I don't know if it has anything to do with the license because I'm playing on two Curacao sites (one has already paid me a withdrawal of €200, €700 and €100) and the other doesn't want to pay me €80!! in fact I came in today because I need to solve the problem.

A me è successo una situazione del genere, ma senza risposte, 20 giorni senza ricevere nulla... non so se centra con la licenza perché sto giocando su due siti Curacao (uno mi ha già pagato un prelievo di 200€, 700€ e 100€) e l'altro non mi vuole pagare 80€!! infatti sono entrato oggi perché ho bisogno di risolvere il problema.

I find it strange that 14 days always count from the new withdrawal. I would think that a withdrawal you had previously made would be subject to the 14 days, but when you make a new withdrawal, it will not be affected anymore. Anyway, from what I've read, I'm probably wrong and I don't know how long you'll be waiting now. 

Anyway, even if you keep playing, I wouldn't make another new withdrawal if you know how the casino works and see if you get the money you asked for. I hope so and you will have good news when you come here again. 

Of course, if you think you need help, you can lodge a complaint with us because we give casinos 14 days to withdraw and don't think it's fair to extend it for another two weeks when you make a new withdrawal. 

Let me know if you decide to open one.

Hello, I will say something similar and that is that we give casinos 14 days to withdraw and once you are past that period, you can then file a complaint with us if you need assistance. 

However, the casino hasn't said anything about why you don't have your withdrawal yet ? Have you had any successful ones in this one you're having difficulties with ? 

Let me know.