Κίνδυνοι καζίνο εκτός της ams

Good evening,

Forgive my ignorance and the strange question but I read some articles on the internet that alarmed me a little. What are the risks of playing and winning at non-AAMs foreign casinos? because I read that you risk heavy fines and prison. I requested a withdrawal of a winnings from my gaming account on one of these sites and now I'm paranoid because there are several entries and exits on my personal account. Do I really risk fines and prison?

Buonasera,

perdonate l'ignoranza e la domanda strana ma ho letto degli articoli su internet che mi hanno un po allarmata. Quali sono i rischi del giocare vincere sui casino stranieri non aams? perchè ho letto che si rischiano multe salate e carcere. Ho richiesto il prelievo di una vincita dal conto gioco su uno di questi siti e ora sono in paranoia perchè sul conto personale ci sono diversi movimenti di entrata e uscita. Rischio davvero multe e carcere?

Of course, if you can give me some guidance, I'll gladly listen to you.

Certo se sai darmi qualche indicazione ti ascolto volentieri.

Γεια σου, μη νομίζεις ότι θα χρειαστεί να περάσεις κάτι τέτοιο. Σε τελική ανάλυση, τότε όποιος παίζει σε ένα καζίνο που δεν είναι από τη χώρα του θα έπρεπε να πάει φυλακή, και αυτό θα ήταν πολύ ανοησία.

Αλλά φυσικά θα συνιστούσα πάντα να παίζετε σε καζίνο με άδεια στη χώρα σας γιατί αν κάτι πάει στραβά έχετε πάντα κάποιον να απευθυνθείτε.

Οπότε μόνο αυτό θα έλεγα για το θέμα.

Thanks Jaro, this consoles me. In any case, to be more relaxed, I won't play anymore from now on, I had no idea that they weren't completely legal since they also require document verification. I hope I don't come off as stupid for what I asked but I'm too anxious about something like that, reading those articles really agitated me, but now I'm more relaxed knowing that it's not a real consequence. I await the crediting of the latest winnings and will no longer enter the site, I sincerely hope that there will be no repercussions of any kind. Thanks again for the answer.

Grazie Jaro, questo mi consola. In ogni caso per stare più tranquilla d’ora in poi non giocherò più, non avevo idea che non fossero del tutto regolari visto che richiedono anche la verifica dei documenti. Spero di non risultare una stupida per ciò che ho chiesto ma sono troppo ansiosa per una cosa del genere, leggere quegli articoli mi ha veramente agitata, ma ora sono più rilassata sapendo che non é una reale conseguenza. Attendo l’accredito delle ultime vincite e non entro più nel sito, spero vivamente che non ci siano ripercussioni di alcun tipo. Grazie ancora per la risposta.

Παρακαλώ. Πολλοί παίκτες παίζουν σε ιστότοπους ή σε καζίνο που δεν βρίσκονται στη χώρα τους. Φυσικά, υπάρχουν χώρες όπου ο τζόγος είναι απολύτως απαγορευμένος και παράνομος, οπότε μπορώ να φανταστώ ότι θα μπορούσαν να προκύψουν προβλήματα εάν επρόκειτο για αυτό. Υπάρχουν όμως πολύ λίγες τέτοιες χώρες και, αν δεν κάνω λάθος, η Ιταλία δεν είναι μία από αυτές.

Φυσικά, δεν χρειάζεται να αισθάνεστε καθόλου άσχημα που ρωτάτε, γι' αυτό είμαστε εδώ για να βοηθήσουμε και να συμβουλεύσουμε.

Θα περιμένω λοιπόν την ενημέρωσή σας και ελπίζω να λάβετε τα χρήματά σας το συντομότερο δυνατό.

Μπορώ όμως να ξέρω και για ποιο καζίνο είναι;

The casino in question is Winnita. I had some initial problems and had opened a complaint because I couldn't pass the document verification and therefore withdraw. Then after about 11 days and hundreds of attempts the verification finally passed and from that moment on I withdrew without problems. Now they told me I have to wait 14 days for the last requested withdrawal to be processed. I will update you on the outcome as soon as there are developments. In fact, in Italy gambling is regulated but legal, so there should not be excessive risks. But now my priority remains not having any kind of legal problem.

Il Casino in questione é winnita. Ho avuto un po’ di problemi iniziali e avevo aperto un reclamo perché non riuscivo a passare la verifica dei documenti e quindi a prelevare. Poi dopo circa 11 giorni e centinaia di tentativi la verifica è finalmente passata e da quel momento ho prelevato senza problemi. Ora mi hanno detto che devo attendere 14 giorni affinché l’ultimo prelievo richiesto venga elaborato. VI aggiornerò sull’esito non appena ci saranno sviluppi. In effetti in Italia il gioco d’azzardo è regolamentato ma legale, quindi non dovrebbero esserci rischi eccessivi. Ma ora la mia priorità resta non avere alcun tipo di problema legale.

Νομίζω ότι 11 ή και 14 ημέρες είναι μια αρκετά μεγάλη περίοδος για μια τακτική απόσυρση. Ίσως ξέρετε γιατί παίρνει τόσο πολύ.

Εάν είναι εντάξει με εσάς, μπορώ να ρωτήσω ποια μέθοδο πληρωμής επιλέξατε; Με τον ένα ή τον άλλο τρόπο, αναμφίβολα θα περιμένουμε περισσότερες πληροφορίες.

Αν μπορώ να προσθέσω, πιστεύω ότι είναι πολύ υπεύθυνο εκ μέρους σας να ανησυχείτε για τις άδειες και τη νομιμότητα και ελπίζω ότι θα ενθαρρύνει και άλλους παίκτες να επιδείξουν παρόμοια προσοχή. 👍

Hi Radka, they have a special regulation according to which the more you win, the more days you have to wait for the withdrawal. I can't complain because it is precisely specified in the regulation. I won 4000 euros so I'll have to wait and see if everything goes as it should. I attach the screen with this particular specification. And I'll update you on how the situation will evolve. 

Ciao Radka, hanno un regolamento particolare secondo il quale più vinci e più diventano i giorni di attesa del prelievo. Non mi posso lamentare perché é appunto specificato nel regolamento. Io ho vinto 4000 euro quindi dovrò attendere e si vedrà se andrà tutto come deve andare. Vi allego lo screen con questa specifica particolare. E vi aggiorno di come si evolverà la situazione. 

oh I forgot to answer your question. I chose credit card credit as my withdrawal method.

ah ho dimentica di rispondere a una tua domanda. Ho scelto come metodo di prelievo l’accredito su carta di credito.

Πιθανότατα δεν θα έπαιζα σε ένα τέτοιο καζίνο αν πρέπει να περιμένετε για όλο και περισσότερες αναλήψεις ανάλογα με το ποσό. Εάν υπήρχαν προβλήματα και δεν είχατε πάρει τα χρήματά σας μέχρι τότε, τότε θα έπρεπε να περιμένετε ακόμα περισσότερο; Γνωρίζω ότι οι παίκτες και τα καζίνο αντιμετωπίζουν συχνά τεχνικές δυσκολίες που μπορεί να προκύψουν και μπορεί να μην είναι ευθύνη του καζίνο, αλλά εξακολουθώ να το βρίσκω αρκετά αν χρειαστεί να περιμένετε έως και 21 ημέρες σε ορισμένες περιπτώσεις. Αλλά αν είστε εντάξει με αυτό, τότε όλα είναι καλά και θα περιμένουμε την ενημέρωση.

Επίσης, ευχαριστώ που αναφέρατε τη μέθοδο ανάληψης, είναι μια από τις πιο συνηθισμένες. Είναι επίσης δυνατή η ανάληψη με χρήση της κρυπτογράφησης; Υποθέτω ότι δεν έχει μεγάλη σημασία αν το καζίνο τηρεί τα χρονικά του όρια. Ή κάνω λάθος και δοκίμασες άλλη μέθοδο και τα χρήματα έφτασαν νωρίτερα από όσο έπρεπε;

Good morning Jaro, the waiting times are the same regardless of the withdrawal method. The support says that it depends on the amount of requests being processed, but I am sure that the real sense is to leave the balance on the gaming account more time to tempt the player to use it and perhaps end it before it is paid. This is my thought. I only used the card credit method and once a bank transfer and the times were always long. I also think that it is an excessive wait that does not incentivize me to continue using the site, regardless I don't think I will continue to use it, I am just waiting for the payment. Let's hope everything goes well.

Buongiorno Jaro, i tempi d’attesa sono quelli a prescindere dal metodo di prelievo. L’assistenza dice che dipende dalla mole di richieste in elaborazione, ma sono certa che il senso reale sia lasciare il saldo sul conto gioco più tempo per tentare il giocatore a utilizzarlo e magari terminarlo prima che venga versato. Questo è un mio pensiero. Io ho utilizzato solo il metodo dell’accredito su carta e una volta bonifico bancario e i tempi sono stati sempre lunghi. Penso anche io che sia un’attesa eccessiva che non incentiva a continuare a utilizzare il sito, io a prescindere non credo che continuerò ad utilizzarlo, sono solo in attesa del versamento. Speriamo vada tutto bene.

Ναι, στην πραγματικότητα φαίνεται ότι μπορεί να έχεις δίκιο. Μερικές φορές είναι άσκοπα πολύ και τα καζίνο έχουν μια τακτική στασιμότητας. Άρα πιστεύετε ότι είναι υπέροχο να αφήσετε τα χρήματα και να δείτε τι θα συμβεί. Είναι το πιο έξυπνο πράγμα. Θα δούμε πώς θα πάει όλο αυτό.

Good morning, it also happened to me to play in internationally licensed casinos.

And he receives winnings that are never greater than the deposits.

How I should behave.

Do I need to add them to my tax return?

Buongiorno è capitato anche a me giocare su casinò con licenza internazionale.

E riceve vincite che non sono mai superiori ai versamenti.

Come comportarmi.

Devo aggiungerli alla dichiarazione dei redditi?

Πιστεύω ότι πρέπει να επικοινωνήσετε με τον λογιστή σας και να κάνετε αυτήν την ερώτηση. Πρέπει να ξέρουν την απάντηση σίγουρα.😉

Το έχεις δοκιμάσει;

No, not yet

I was asking because maybe someone was already aware.

Thank you

No ancora no

Chiedevo perché magari qualcuno era già al corrente.

Grazie

Σε κάθε πολιτεία, οι νίκες μπορούν να φορολογηθούν διαφορετικά, οπότε υποθέτω ότι είτε κάποιος παίκτης από την Ιταλία θα σας απαντήσει είτε θα προσπαθήσει να βρει κάποιες πληροφορίες που μπορεί να σας πουν τι πρέπει να κάνετε. 😉

Good morning, I wanted to update you on what happens with the requested withdrawal, of 4000 euros I have only received 800 to date, upon requesting explanations I was initially told that we were within the 14 day deadline. In the meantime, having played again and won, I requested another withdrawal but the previous one remains pending, I contacted support again who told me that: having requested a new withdrawal, the 14 days are counted from the last request. Something ridiculous. Basically, who knows when and if I will see these funds. In light of the facts, I absolutely advise against the casino, starting from the assumption that I am certain that if you had not intervened I would not have passed the validation of the documents which were CONSTANTLY refused AND WITHOUT ANY REASON, it took me 12 days for a check with the funds blocked even in that case. The 14 working day waiting policy was already excessive but even extending the deadline and having it start over again with each new withdrawal request seems out of this world to me. Absolutely rejected! They act clever and nobody likes clever people.

Buongiorno, volevo aggiornarvi di quanto accade con il prelievo richiesto, di 4000 euro ho ricevuto ad oggi unicamente 800, alla richiesta di spiegazioni mi è stato inizialmente detto che rientravamo nel termine dei 14 giorni. Nel frattempo avendo nuovamente giocato e vinto ho richiesto un altro prelievo ma il precedente rimane in attesa, ho contattato nuovamente l'assistenza che mi ha detto che: avendo richiesto un nuovo prelievo i 14 giorni si contano a partire dall'ultima richiesta. Una cosa ridicola. Praticamente questi fondi chissà quando e se li vedrò. Alla luce dei fatti sconsiglio assolutamente il casinò, partendo dal presupposto che sono certa che se non foste intervenuti voi non arei passato la validazione dei documenti che rifiutavano COSTANTEMENTE E SENZA ALCUN MOTIVO, ho impiegato 12 giorni per una verifica con i fondi bloccati anche in quel caso. La politica di attesa di 14 giorni lavorativi era già eccessiva ma addirittura prorogare il termine e farlo ripartire da capo a ogni nuova richiesta di prelievo mi sembra fuori dal mondo. Bocciato assolutamente! Fanno i furbetti e i furbetti non piacciono a nessuno.

A similar situation happened to me, but without answers, 20 days without receiving anything... I don't know if it has anything to do with the license because I'm playing on two Curacao sites (one has already paid me a withdrawal of €200, €700 and €100) and the other doesn't want to pay me €80!! in fact I came in today because I need to solve the problem.

A me è successo una situazione del genere, ma senza risposte, 20 giorni senza ricevere nulla... non so se centra con la licenza perché sto giocando su due siti Curacao (uno mi ha già pagato un prelievo di 200€, 700€ e 100€) e l'altro non mi vuole pagare 80€!! infatti sono entrato oggi perché ho bisogno di risolvere il problema.

Μου φαίνεται περίεργο που μετράνε πάντα 14 μέρες από τη νέα απόσυρση. Θα πίστευα ότι μια ανάληψη που είχατε κάνει προηγουμένως θα υπόκειται στις 14 ημέρες, αλλά όταν κάνετε νέα ανάληψη, δεν θα επηρεαστεί πλέον. Πάντως από ότι έχω διαβάσει μάλλον κάνω λάθος και δεν ξέρω πόσο θα περιμένεις τώρα.

Τέλος πάντων, ακόμα κι αν συνεχίσετε να παίζετε, δεν θα έκανα άλλη νέα ανάληψη αν ξέρετε πώς λειτουργεί το καζίνο και δείτε αν θα πάρετε τα χρήματα που ζητήσατε. Το ελπίζω και θα έχετε καλά νέα όταν έρθετε ξανά εδώ.

Φυσικά, εάν πιστεύετε ότι χρειάζεστε βοήθεια, μπορείτε να υποβάλετε μια καταγγελία σε εμάς, επειδή δίνουμε στα καζίνο 14 ημέρες για ανάληψη και μην πιστεύετε ότι είναι δίκαιο να το παρατείνετε για άλλες δύο εβδομάδες όταν κάνετε νέα ανάληψη.

Ενημερώστε με αν αποφασίσετε να ανοίξετε ένα.

Γεια σας, θα πω κάτι παρόμοιο και αυτό είναι ότι δίνουμε στα καζίνο 14 ημέρες για ανάληψη και μόλις περάσετε αυτήν την περίοδο, μπορείτε στη συνέχεια να υποβάλετε μια καταγγελία μαζί μας εάν χρειάζεστε βοήθεια.

Ωστόσο, το καζίνο δεν έχει πει τίποτα σχετικά με το γιατί δεν έχετε ακόμη την απόσυρσή σας; Είχατε κανέναν επιτυχημένο σε αυτό με το οποίο αντιμετωπίζετε δυσκολίες;

Ενημέρωσέ με.