The Most Comprehensive List of Marseilles Threads Ever

Marseilles Individual Card discussions (Major Arcana):

• I - Le Basteleur;
• II - La Papesse;
• III - L'Imperatris;
• IIII - L'Empereur;
• V - Le Pape;
• VI - L'Amoureux;
• VII - Le Chariot;
• VIII - Justice;
• VIIII - L'Ermite;
• X - La Roue de Fortune;
• XI - La Force;
• XII - Le Pendu;
• XIII;
• XIIII - Temperance;
• XV - Le Diable;
• XVI - La Maison-Diev;
• XVII - L'Estoille;
• XVIII - La Lune;
• XVIIII - Le Soleil;
• XX - Le Jujement;
• XXI - Le Monde;
• Le Mat/Fov.

Major Arcana details or sequences:

• The Fool & the Magician;
• Card Sequence: Star, Moon, Sun;
• Card Sequence: XX Judgement & XXI the World;
  
  
• The Bateleur's/Magician's Lemniscate;
  
  
• Pances/Papess's crown: double vs triple;
• La Papesse's ...um... [phallic-looking strap];
  
  
• Intégrisme II: Meeting the Empress's gaze (Essay);
  
  
• Tonsured Acolytes & Funny Hats;
• Le Pape - two pillars or throne?;
• Le Pape's crozier and all that;
• A Jewish Pope?;
  
  
• The Hanged Man... death of a Jew in Christian lands?;
• Le Pendu: epaulettes or fingers?;
  
  
• Card XV - the Devil - face on the belly;
  
  
• Marseille Moon ~ Phoenix Rising!;
  
  
• The Fool & his Spoon;
• Le Fou and Zephaniah 3.

Marseilles Major Arcana titles:

• Titles on the Camoin (Marseille);
  
  
• Le Basteleur;
• La Pances;
• L'Imperatrice;
• Le Basteleur;
• Le Pape;
• La Maison-Diev;
• Le Mat;

Court Cards - please note that some cards do not yet have athread:

• General Comments;
• Bastons & the Courts (& the Ace);
• 2 Coins on Valet & Roy (Camoin);
• The Kings and the 4 Quarters;
  
  
• Valet (Page) of Coins;
• Cavalier (Knight) of Coins;
• Reyne (Queen) of Coins;
• Roy (King) of Coins;
  
  
• Valet (Page) of Battons;
• Cavalier (Knight) of Battons;
• Reyne (Queen) of Battons;
• Roy (King) of Battons;
  
  
• Valet (Page) of Coupe's bib;
• Cavalier (Knight) of Coupe;
• Reyne (Queen) of Coupe;
• Roy (King) of Coupe;
  
  
• Valet (Page) of Espees (Swords);
• Cavalier (Knight) of Espees (Swords);
• Reyne (Queen) of Espees (Swords);
• Roy (King) of Espees (Swords)

Pip Cards and suits generally:

Also of interest are the threads in the Study Group Forum working on non-scenic pips from various decks (link is to list of threads).

• Marseilles Pips meanings?
• Coins;
• Tarot de Marseille Denier Patterns;
• Swords & Colours (Grimaud);
• Swords up, swords down;
• When did Discs/Coins become Pentacles?;
• Upright vs. Reversed for Hadar, Camoin and Grimaud;
• The Left and The Right Hand [Batons and Sword Aces];
  
  
• Ace of Cups;
• As de Coupe;
  
  
• the Twos;
• the Twos: general observations;
• 2 Batons (summary);
• 2 Coins (summary);
• 2 Cups (summary);
• 2 Swords (summary);
  
  
• the Threes;
  
  
• the Fours;
• Shield on 4 Coins;
  
  
• the Fives;
  
  
• Six de Coupe;
  
  
• the Sevens;
  
  
• 9 Bastons;
• 9 Swords;
  
  
• Q re: 10 Swords;
• Dix d'Épées :: Broken Blade

Other Marseilles specific discussions:

• Tips for reading with the Marseilles;
• Comparative exercise;
• English translation of Hadar's LWB;
• Deriving Divinatory Meanings for Pip Cards of the Tarot de Marseille;
• Camoin Marseilles - 2 "coins" on Valet and Roy;
• Role of the Marseilles Bateleur in an alchemical tarot perspective;
• Why Kris Hadar put the date 1181 on his Two of Deniers (Coins);
• A text to share with you all, on the Marseilles Tarot;
• Difference between Wirth and Marseilles?
• Favorite Marseilles based styles?;
• Marseillese Spanish Tarot Courses;
• Accessing books & decks in French (Canada/USA);
• Marseilles as doomsday machine;
• Marseilles Tarot Research;
• The Sword: Marseilles Justice and Queen of Swords cards juxtaposed;
• Interpreting Minors in Marseilles Decks;
• The Visconti - and the Marseilles;
• Grimaud Marseilles LWB [Booklet] in English!;
• Unadulterated Marseilles?;
• Major Arcana pairs;
• The Origin of the World : a theory of creation in the Tarot de Marseille;

Marseille-style decks - and very close 'cousins'

Historical - Available
Tarot de Marseille, Nicholas Conver, Published by Héron
The Tarot Set, Nicholas Conver, Published by Thunder Bay Press
Ancient Tarot of Marseilles, Nicholas Conver, Published by Lo Scarabeo
Tarot de Marseille, Nicholas Conver, Published by Camoin
Tarots of Marseilles, Claude Burdel, Published by Lo Scarabeo
Tarot of Marseilles, Published by Grimaud
Tarot de Marseille, Published by Piatnik
Classico Tarocco di Marsiglia, Published by Il Meneghello
Tarocco di Marsiglia (Swiss Schaffhouse), Published by Il Meneghello
Tarot Classic (Swiss Schaffhouse), Published by US Games

Historical - Hard to find
Tarot de Marseille, Jean Dodal, Published by Dussere

Modern - Available
Tarot of Marseilles, Camoin/Jodorowski, published by Camoin
Le Veritable Tarot de Marseille, Kris Hader, published by Mortagne
Tarot de Marsella, Rhodes/Sanchez,
Jean Dodal Tarot (22 Atouts), Jean-Claude Flornoy
Jean Noblet Tarot (22 Atouts), Jean-Claude Flornoy
Jean Noblet Tarot (full 78 deck), Jean-Claude Flornoy
Tarot de Marseille, Convos, Published by AGM Müller
Tarot of Marseilles, based on Jean Dodal, Published by US Games
Tarot de Marseille, Published by Fournier

Tarot of Marseilles related decks
Tarot Jacques Vieville, Published by Héron
Tarocco di Besancon, Published by Il Meneghello
Tarocco di Bologna, Published by Il Meneghello
Tarot of Paris, Published by Grimaud

Minchiate threads:

usage;
Game playing;
Outline;


Fool;
I - Magician;
II The Grand Duke;III/IIII - The Emperors;
V - Love;
VI - Temperance (VI);

XVI - Hope;
XVII - Prudence;
XVIII - Faith;
XVIIII - Charity.

Cards with no threads yet (unless very new and not included above yet)

Deck specific discussions

• Ancient Italian Tarot-- Questions on Magician card;
• Brown Dots On Ancient Tarots Of Bologna;
• Puzzling the CharlesV1/Griggoneur Yet Again!;
• Tarot Classic: Why does Kaplan say it's by Burdel?;
• 1JJ Swiss deck; falling out of fashion?;
• Marseille Tarot Flornoy Downloads;
• Link to Nicolas Conver's mold;
• Convos Marseille Art Recreation;
• Vandenborre tarot;
• Tarot of the masters [Vacchetta];
• Ancient Tarots of Bologna;
• Tarot de Besancon / manufactured in Belfort?;
• Spanish Marsella;
• [...]D. Rodes & E. Sanchez [Marseille deck];
• Dodal Tarot de Marseille (Dusserre);
• H�ron Marseille good to go? [Conver];
• Hadar Tarot de Marseille deck Images: Upright & Reversed;
• Chosson;
• Nicolas Conver images in High Resolution;

• Jacques Vi�ville: Sun Moon & Star;
• What's so great about the Jacques Vieville Tarot?;
• Vieville through Beginner's Eyes

• Noblet - Atouts: Le Bateleur;
• Noblet - Atouts: Strength (La Force);
• Noblet - Atouts: Le Pendu;
• Noblet - Courts: Queen of Bastons;
• The Empresses Bag? (Noblet);
• Frank Booth's least favorite Noblet Atouts...;
• Noblet deniers - Templar crosses?;
• I'm in love with a Frenchman! (and his name is Jean Noblet);

Meditations on the Tarot

The following links are to discussions in the Tarot Books & Media forum but since this book looks at the Marseilles deck it also seems apt to link them here.

Meditations on the Tarot
Med. on the Tarot - Letter 1
Med. on the Tarot - Letter 2

towards some Meditations on the Minors

These threads really need to be continued if anyone feels inclined, it would be great to see.

Links to scanned decks

Kenji has very kindly given us permission to link to these beautiful scans. So for everyone's pleasure:

Etteilla II

Nicolas Conver 1760

Pierre Madenie 1709

Eudes Picard:
Epees
Coupes
Deniers
Sceptres

Jean Pierre Laurent, trumps

Grimaud-Arnoult

We hope to add to these links as time goes on.

Moonbow* & Bernice