Transcript (Day 110) Royal Commission On Institutional Responses To Child Abuse (Mangrove Mountain)
Transcript (Day 110) Royal Commission On Institutional Responses To Child Abuse (Mangrove Mountain)
Transcript (Day 110) Royal Commission On Institutional Responses To Child Abuse (Mangrove Mountain)
Before
The Presiding Member:
Commissioner:
Counsel Assisting:
Dr Hayley Bennett
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Good morning.
[10.07am]
<EXAMINATION BY DR BENNETT:
DR BENNETT:
Q.
Could you please state your full name?
A.
Sarah Julia Tetlow.
Q.
You've provided the Commission with a statement that's
been dated 14 November 2014?
A.
Yes, that's right.
Q.
A.
Q.
Are the contents of the statement true and correct to
the best of your knowledge?
A.
There's a couple of corrections that need to be made.
Q.
Thank you.
A.
In paragraph 20, when I talk about the properties, SYA
doesn't own the two properties in Gosford, so that needs to
be removed.
Q.
A.
Q.
Thank you.
A.
Then in paragraph 26, I've just found out that,
although we have submitted the documentation to get those
bits removed from the YAMM Rules of Association, it hasn't
actually gone through that; so we're in the process of
removing those.
Q.
On the second-last line, where it says "on
12 November"?
A.
Yes, instead of that, maybe perhaps write:
We are in the process of removing all
reference to BSY from the YAMM
constitution.
Q.
"On 12 November 2014 we removed", can be deleted
there, and then the sentence can commence, "We are in the
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DR BENNETT:
Your Honour, I propose to tender that
statement now.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
Exhibit 21-29.
Q.
Is it the case that you're currently a resident at the
ashram?
A.
Yes, that's right.
Q.
When did that commence?
A.
I think it was around about 8 January this year,
something like that.
Q.
At the end of paragraph 8 of your statement you've
said that after travelling you became interested in
Satyananda yoga tradition. What does Satyananda yoga
tradition mean to you?
A.
That's not in paragraph 8, but -Q.
Sorry, 5. The last sentence in paragraph 5 there.
A.
The tradition for me is an opportunity to live a way
of life that allows me to learn more about myself and to
serve the community, and, without sounding trite, to try
and do some good in the world.
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Q.
In terms of referring to the Satyananda yoga
tradition, you can see that the name of Swami Satyananda is
sort of attached to the tradition. Is it attached to a
particular style of yoga that is not consistent across
different types of yoga?
A.
Well, I would say the Satyananda yoga tradition - so
in Australia and elsewhere in the world it's called
Satyananda yoga, in India it's called Bihar yoga, it means
the same thing. It's an integrated form of yoga so I would
say, comparing it to other traditions, it encompasses more
of the traditional strands of yoga, like karma yoga, bhakta
yoga, all the different philosophical and lifestyle strands
of yoga.
Q.
A.
Q.
A.
Who is that?
Swami Niranjan.
Q.
You individually have a guru; does the whole of the
institution at the ashram have a guru?
A.
No.
Q.
And so, the guru concept is something individual to
each person?
A.
Yes, it's a personal relationship.
Q.
It might be the case that everybody at the ashram has
a different guru?
A.
It could be, but not everyone in the ashram has a
guru.
Q.
In practice, would most people at the Mangrove ashram
currently have the same guru as you?
A.
Well, some of the older residents have Swami
Satyananda as their guru; the younger ones it would be
Swami Niranjan. Probably about maybe half the residents
have got a guru.
Q.
From paragraph 6 in your statement you've set out some
of the training you've undergone in relation to yoga. At
paragraph 9 you state that you decided to complete the yoga
teacher training course offered by the Satyananda Yoga
Academy at Mangrove, and you say you chose that because in
your view it was the best place at the Satyananda tradition
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Q.
Does this Satyananda tradition underpin most of the
courses and products that are available at the ashram?
A.
It underpins some, but I wouldn't say most. Obviously
on the education side, that's based on the Satyananda yoga
tradition, so the diploma and the - well, actually not even
all the continuing professional development courses,
because they bring in other modalities. On the other side
with the retreats, it's a mixture; some aspect of it, but
some other things as well.
Q.
From paragraph 4 in your statement you state that you
are currently the CEO of what I'll refer to as SYA but I'll
get you to explain that a bit more, and that you were
appointed on 3 September 2014.
A.
Yes.
Q.
You go on to set out some of the management structure
of the ashram. Can you please just give an overview of the
organisations that comprise the ashram, so in particular
the structure of SYA and what I'll refer to as YAMM but you
can explain what that means?
A.
SYA's the Satyananda academy and that's the - well, I
suppose you could call it the overarching organisation, but
there's no actual control or ownership between the
different entities.
So SYA owns the property at Mangrove for example, it
is responsible for the education courses, the diploma and
the CPD, the Continuing Professional Development courses
that are run, those are normally weekend courses. SYA is
also responsible for accreditation, so when the students
complete the diploma course they become accredited teachers
so it's responsible for that. And if they wish, they can
become affiliates as well of SYA and there's different
agreements for those two arrangements.
YAMM, which stands for Yoga Association of Mangrove
Mountain, is the ashram itself. The trading name is
Mangrove Yoga Ashram. YAMM is an affiliate of SYA, I guess
you could say it rents the property and it runs courses,
but those are more the lifestyle courses, the weekend
courses and different aspects of yoga meditation and other
things, the venue hire that we do, volunteer work, people
come and do volunteer work there. Those different aspects
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are run through YAMM rather than SYA. Those are the two
main entities, I suppose, that are really relevant to this.
Q.
Does the SYA have significance to ashrams around
Australia?
A.
Well, there are only two ashrams in Australia. The
other one, Rocklyn, is owned by SYA, and so YAV, which is
the Yoga Association of Victoria, is also an affiliate of
SYA and it rents the property.
Q.
So, in terms of overarching, that's at a higher level
but for both those ashrams?
A.
Mm-hmm, but the operations of Rocklyn are entirely
independent so we have no influence over what YAV does, for
example.
Q.
At the end of paragraph 12 you state that your
appointment as CEO was to fill a formal position, the title
of CEO was required because the SYA is a registered
training organisation. Then you state that in practice the
management of the ashram is shared by a leadership team.
A.
Yes.
Q.
I'm going to ask you a little bit more about the
leadership team in a minute, but just explain what you mean
about "in practice" and that group and your role as CEO?
A.
In a traditional company the CEO would be the boss and
would have a degree of authority and control over the
operations. It's a bit different in the ashram because,
yeah, I have that title but actually the operations,
day-to-day operations we share the responsibility between
currently the four of us on the leadership team. So we
discuss decisions and we come to a consensus agreement
rather than me running round doing what I like.
Q.
Within that system do you see any one person as having
a little more power or a little more control than anybody
else?
A.
Probably in terms of different aspects. So, if it
comes to finance for example, I would have more control
because that's my area of responsibility, or if it comes to
education, then Yogasandhan would probably have a bit more
control perhaps, but any significant decisions would be
discussed by the team.
Q.
At paragraph 13 you refer to the memorandum and
articles of association of the SYA. Could I please have
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committee?
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Yes, they would be used to make the final decision on
more important matters, which could include things like
significant spend or significant changes to policy, that
sort of thing. It would be discussed at the management
team level first.
Q.
So, in that sense what's decided by, and I'll just use
a single term then, the leadership team, what's decided by
the leadership team, in a sense they're answerable to the
board of directors?
A.
Yes. Not for everything, but more significant
matters.
Q.
At paragraph 15 you refer to the objects of
association from the constitution of YAMM. Can I ask for
this document to be put on the screen. Its identification
number is YAM.0001.001.1877. Scrolling down to the sixth
page of that document to the, "Aims and objects". Can I
ask you to read out those aims and objects, thanks,
Ms Tetlow?
A.
The aims and objects for which the
association is established are:
To enhance the quality of life in
accordance with the yogic teachings of
Paramahansa Satyananda by:
(a) providing a source of inspiration and
resources,
(b) promoting, supporting and educating a
healthy, spiritual lifestyle of the broader
community,
(c) providing a yogic retreats and
education centre,
(d) supporting scientific research and
academic studies into yoga.
Q.
These functions have been listed as providing
resources in education retreats and research and they're
all to be provided in accordance with yogic teaching of
Satyananda?
A.
Yeah, or to enhance in accordance with, yeah.
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Q.
I'll take you back again to your statement, to
paragraph 17, this is where you state that SYA and YAMM
boards have delegated some of their authority to a
leadership team, and that's called the co-ordination group?
A.
Mm-hmm.
Q.
Just going back to what you said orally earlier,
they're synonymous -A.
Yes.
Q.
-- the leadership team and the co-ordination group.
Was this delegation, did that happen as a formal process in
terms of what happened at a board meeting and the
delegation occurred?
A.
Yeah, some years ago. I'm not exactly sure when, but
it's been in place for many years.
Q.
At paragraph 19 you state, and you've said this
orally, that you look after the finances of SYA and YAMM.
A.
Mm-hmm.
Q.
You're aware then of the current financial position of
those organisations?
A.
Mm-hmm.
Q.
I'm going to show you a document, the ID number is
SYA.0006.004.0070. Is that a document that you provided
the Commission?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Can you take the Commission to the parts of the
document that would assist to explain the current financial
position of the - well, I might actually ask that first of
all we scroll down to page 17 of the document. Can you
just explain the current financial position of the
organisation if this particular document assists you in
doing that?
A.
When you say the current financial position, do you
mean how much money we have or?
Q.
Yes.
A.
Okay. Well, this page in the document is outlining
how much we've received in the last year in donations; the
vast majority of that is from a private donor, $1.2 million
of that, which is the only reason why SYA made a profit in
the year, because if you take that out it actually made a
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MR KERNAGHAN:
DR BENNETT:
It may be.
That's correct.
Q.
Perhaps scrolling down, that would assist Ms Tetlow
explaining the meaning of those numbers.
A.
Do you want me to go through all of them?
Q.
Not all of them, just at a broad level.
A.
Maybe the more significant numbers. So current assets
is made up - some cash, some is debtors, so that's the
amount of monies that's owed to us, it's not actually cash.
The property, plant and equipment is made up of, some of
that is land value but the majority of it is the amount
that's been spent on building, so it's not necessarily a
reflection of how much it's worth because we wouldn't
necessarily get that much for it. The rest is just normal
accounting stuff, so down the bottom you see how much money
we owe, including the loans which are against note 8, the
borrowings there. I'm not really too sure how I can - what
I can tell you to help you.
Q.
The final figure at the bottom of the page refers to
"total equity", and that's the number that's $5.6 million.
What does that reflect?
A.
So total equity of a company is the net of the assets
less liabilities, so that's stating that as at the end
of June 2014 our assets outweighed our liabilities by
$5.6 million in terms of book value, accounting value; that
doesn't necessarily reflect actual value.
Q.
Thank you. At paragraph 20 of your statement you
refer to the fact that SYA owns a number of properties?
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A.
Yes.
Q.
And that they include the properties at Rocklyn and
one in Manly, and the Mangrove ashram. Are you able to
estimate the value of those properties.
A.
No, they haven't been valued for some time.
Q.
I know that you say now that SYA doesn't own the
properties in Gosford. Are you aware of who does own those
properties that you refer to?
A.
They're owned by Satyananda Yoga Trust, which is a
different entity.
Q.
Just for completion, in terms of the organisational
structure you talked about before, how does this trust fit
in with that structure?
A.
We have two trusts, Satyananda Yoga Trust and
Sannyasin Ashram Trust, we commonly call them SYT and SAT
and the trustees of those two are Satyananda ashram. Both
of those - Satyananda ashram really in practical terms
doesn't have any assets and it doesn't have any real other
purpose these days other than being the trustee for those
two entities. They are both used for travelling teacher
income, so sometimes our teachers will travel around
Australia and overseas, and the income from those comes
into those two trusts.
Q.
One
In terms
of those
A.
SAT
separate
Q.
Are you able to tell the Commission when these trusts
were established?
A.
No, not off the top of my head.
Q.
At paragraph 28 you state that in October 2014 you
received a demand from India for an explanation and apology
for how certain aspects of the Royal Commission matter had
been handled. At the end of your paragraph there at 28 you
state that:
In this matter it was felt that a full and
unabridged apology would best satisfy India
and allow it to focus on the important
matters in Australia.
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A.
Q.
Can I ask for a copy of that email to be put on the
screen. The ID number is YAMM.0004.001.0001_R. That's the
email that you're referring to?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Can you tell the Commission who the email was from? I
mean, you've referred to it as India, and just for
simplicity I will refer to it as having come from India,
but just for the record, if you could explain who it
actually came from?
A.
If you scroll down to the bottom, there isn't actually
a name there. So the assumption is that it came from Swami
Niranjan but it's not stated. It could have been - it was
more than likely written by someone else.
Q.
Your assumption has been, though, that it came from
Swami Niranjan?
A.
Mm-hmm.
Q.
A.
Q.
Has anything occurred since that time to indicate to
you that your assumption was incorrect?
A.
No. But nothing's occurred to us to say that my
assumption was correct either, so I just don't know.
Q.
Scrolling down to about the last second half of that
document, I'm going to read out a part of that document
that starts with - can you explain the content of the
document first?
A.
This email was sent to a group of people, some of whom
are not involved in the academy, outlining three matters
which they weren't happy about. The first one was to do
with our submission of information to the Royal Commission,
the first time we received a summons. The second one was
to do with how a matter to do with affiliation had been
handled; an individual, his affiliation was removed for not
complying with the Code of Ethics. The third matter was to
do with the research institution, SRI, which is a
completely separate organisation.
Q.
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the email?
A.
Yes. So the first two have something to do with
Mangrove and the academy and the third one doesn't.
Q.
Just specifically, this is in relation to what you
said in your statement about what was demanded by this
email, I'll just read out part of the email. It said:
All his life Swami Niranjan has worked for
the betterment of Satyananda yoga and his
guru's mission. In all its difficulties,
problems and strife, he has supported
Mangrove Mountain and the Satyananda yoga
movement in Australia.
But these recent actions of Australia have
shown that the institutions and the people
involved have no respect for the support
and encouragement given.
What has been shown is that Australia is
willing and happy to hide behind guru's
dhoti and suffer the 'swamiji says
syndrome'. Administrators of the
institution are willing to involve him in
the investigation of 20 year old sex
scandals and tarnish his reputation, where
they [did] not even dare to put their own
names on behalf of the institution.
Was that the response to the summons that you spoke of
earlier?
A.
Yes.
Q.
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Yes.
Mmm, no.
Q.
No, that's actually not what I asked. I asked, if
that's what they threatened to do if you did not comply by
the dates set out in the email?
A.
Well, that's what they've said in their email, so,
yes.
Q.
If India did carry out those six actions, is it the
case that this would have an enormous commercial
repercussion for the ashram?
A.
It would have some commercial repercussion; I don't
know about enormous. Because a lot of the people who come
to visit Mangrove for example, I can't speak about Rocklyn,
don't really have any association with the Satyananda
tradition and they just come because they like the yoga and
the courses. So it would have some, but I don't know about
enormous.
Q.
You'd agree that the name "Satyananda" is certainly an
integral part of both the establishment and the function of
the ashram?
A.
The academy, yes, but the Mangrove Yoga Ashram, the
core side of things, not so much.
Q.
I took you to the constitution and the articles of
association of both those organisations, and within both of
those documents the name "Satyananda" exists?
A.
Mm-hmm.
Q.
So you'd agree that it's certainly fundamental in
terms of the constitution at a company level?
A.
Within the constitution, yes.
Q.
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Q.
Before I move on from the email, I want to take you
back to something that I did read out and it's the
statement in the middle there, I'll read it again where it
is said:
What is being shown is that Australia is
willing and happy to hide behind the guru's
dhoti and suffer the 'swami says syndrome'.
Administrators of the institution are
willing to involve him in investigation of
20 year-old sex scandals and tarnish his
reputation and they would not even dare to
put their own names on behalf of the
institution.
Did you notice there that India appeared to refer to
the work of the Royal Commission as a, and I quote, "an
investigation of 20 year-old sex scandals"?
A.
Mm-hmm.
Q.
From the ashram's perspective, do you consider that
referring to the work of the Royal Commission in that way
represents the gravity and seriousness of what's currently
being investigated?
A.
No, of course not.
Q.
Did the ashram take this issue up with India when it
apologised and responded to India?
A.
No.
Q.
From paragraph 29 you refer to the policies and
procedures in place at the ashram, particularly in
reference to child protection. What is the current
procedure to be followed if somebody suspects child abuse,
child sexual abuse at the ashram?
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If there's a suspicion or a complaint, then it would
be taken to someone, a senior member of staff, most likely
one of the leadership team. Then, depending on the nature
of the complaint, it would be either reported to DoCS or
escalated in other ways.
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Is there any process of actually training people to
detect the signs of sexual abuse? So, for instance,
boundary violations and that type of thing?
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We have had - this is before my time this year, we
have had training in the past in how to spot the signs, and
we have got plans to do some more training on that basis in
the New Year because, as you can appreciate, the population
of the ashram changes, so as new residents come in we need
to keep them up to speed.
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Just to be clear, you're aware that something like
that has occurred in the past?
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Yes, the training, yes.
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And currently there is some plan for that to happen in
the future?
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Again, yes. Not just on that topic but other things
relating to child protection.
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In terms of the current policies that are in place,
have you heard the evidence of the survivors up-to-date?
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Yes.
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And you're aware that there have been allegations that
some of the girls were taken out of their beds at night and
taken to Akhandananda. Would a situation like that, where
girls are individually picked out and taken to some person
individually, would that be detected or would the system
you have in place deal with that?
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Oh, of course -MR KERNAGHAN:
Your Honour, to assist the Commission on
this topic, perhaps if Counsel Assisting takes us to
paragraphs 31, 32 and 33 as a preface to the issue, so as
to give some reality to the hypothetical that's being
posited by Counsel Assisting.
As I understand the question, it hinges on the current
practice of the population at the ashram today, unless my
friend is asking a question about whether or not the
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At the commencement of these proceedings Mr Kernaghan,
who acts for the ashram, read out a statement from the
ashram which comprised an apology in relation to child
sexual abuse and related matters. Are you familiar with
the terms of the apology?
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Yes.
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The apology states, and this is at
transcript page 1851:
We recognise and acknowledge that there has
been child abuse in our history and that it
has inflicted profound grief and suffering
upon vulnerable children.
In stating this, is the ashram accepting the evidence
of the survivors that child abuse, including child sexual
abuse, occurred at the ashram?
MR KERNAGHAN:
I object to that question in its form.
It's self-evident that the apology preceded the evidence.
It's not an appropriate connection to make.
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Mr Kernaghan.
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MR KERNAGHAN:
What's being put by Counsel Assisting is
that that statement reflects an acceptance of evidence that
hadn't been given, nor served - a matter that myself and
Ms McGlinchey have repeatedly complained to this Commission
about throughout the course of last week. So it's not a
fair question to put. My friend is asking this witness to
draw a connection between those words that have just been
related and the evidence that came after it.
DR BENNETT:
I apologise.
No, I apologise.
Q.
The apology in its terms states that the members of
the ashram, the organisational people, had read the
statements and were familiar with the evidence up until the
point of that -A.
Some of it, yeah, that was available, yes.
Q.
That's correct. So, no, from a chronological
perspective, any of the questions I'm about to ask you and
put before you now are based purely on what was seen before
the apology was given.
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Okay.
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So, based upon that, I'll ask you again. So, just
having regard to what came before the apology, I'll ask my
question again. In stating this, is the ashram accepting
that evidence that came beforehand, that child abuse,
including child sexual abuse, occurred at the ashram?
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No, no.
MS McGLINCHEY:
Whether there is a legal link between the
ashram and my client or not is a matter that we all have to
think about later.
DR BENNETT:
I can reframe the question and leave out the
names, Your Honour.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
DR BENNETT:
Yes.
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I'll give you a new question. Is it, the ashram does
not attempt to limit blame to individuals, but shares the
responsibility more broadly with the ashram itself, its
people and leaders?
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These events occurred within the organisation, so
regardless of the fact that none of us there now were
personally responsible, or whatever at the time, we do
accept that the organisation apologises for that. I think
any other response would be insensitive and inappropriate.
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Yes.
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Your legal representative, Mr Kernaghan, told the
Commission that his clients had reflected at great length
upon the reports of abuse that had been set down in writing
in the form of statements from the many witnesses who had
come forward to the Commission, and that certainly was
making it clear that the apology was based on what had come
before in terms of time.
He told the Commission that the statements had been
met with distress and deep despair on the part of those
responsible for the ashram today, at the horrifying and
previously unheard claims recorded in the documents, as
well as claims previously known. And that's the case, is
it?
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Yes.
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Mr Kernaghan stated that his clients had reflected, in
particular on the mistreatment of all children at any time
by anyone in the history of the ashram and the movement
that it had been part of; that the abuse to his clients
represented the most appalling and disgraceful chapter in
the organisation's history.
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Mm-hmm.
Q.
Mr Kernaghan further stated that his clients this year
have committed themselves to the first real steps towards
any form of accountability or reconciliation, but they had
recognised that those steps had been limited in nature and
that they were flawed by the necessarily early stages of
the efforts.
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Yes.
Q.
He later stated that his clients recognise that those
first steps may have seemed trivial or even pathetic to
many and that his clients accept that judgment.
A.
Mm-hmm.
Q.
When the ashram refers to mistakes and errors that
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The Easter weekend events where the - and that's the
40th anniversary celebrations where the issues of child
sexual abuse were raised in the context of a celebration?
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Mm-hmm.
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And the issuing of the survivor support pack?
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Yeah, all the ways in which - I mean, our intention
with all of that has always been to do as much as we could
to help the victims, and obviously none of us are perfect
in doing that, but our intention was always to do the right
thing, and we recognise that we didn't always achieve that.
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So, in this case you don't come here today to support
those decisions or justify them or stand by them?
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No. We did what we did, and some things didn't work
out and we accept that.
Q.
From paragraph 34 in your statement, and I'm not going
to take you through all of this, you do set out the events
and decision making processes that led to a number of those
decisions that you're no longer standing by. Have you said
that you did get to read some of the statements of the
survivors before the commencement of these proceedings?
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I didn't read the statements, but I was made aware of
the content of them.
Q.
Are you aware that within some of those statements
there's responses from some of those survivors about the
impact of some of those decisions upon them?
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Mm-hmm.
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Am I right to think that it's some of that feedback
that's led you to believe that in fact those decisions
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I'll just take you to a couple of those statements and
a couple of those responses to those situations and just
ask you whether you accept and acknowledge that those
feelings expressed were probably legitimate in terms of the
fact that you no longer stand by those decisions. But I'll
take you to the statements first.
First of all, there's the statement of Jyoti, and at
paragraph 61 of her statement she comments that she had
nothing to do with the ashram's 40th anniversary and
healing day as she thought it was a sham as far as she was
concerned, and she stated that she considered it grossly
insensitive for the ashram to think that survivors would
come on the turf on which so much of the abuse occurred and
that it would all be fine.
At paragraph 62 she says she was blocked from making
comments on the ashram Facebook page and said:
It infuriates me that the ashram would do
this because I think it shows the ashram
wants the victims of abuse to be silenced.
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That's right, it's just the response that they've had.
Similarly, at paragraph 63 she states that she felt that
the survivor pack was patronising and insulting.
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Mm-hmm.
Q.
Alecia Buchanan, as another example, and I won't
repetitiously take you through everybody because each of
the survivors has talked about the impact upon them of some
these decisions -MR KERNAGHAN:
Sorry, Your Honour, before my friend goes
to Alecia Buchanan, perhaps there was a question about what
was read about Jyoti.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
DR BENNETT:
The question was, did you accept and
acknowledgement as being legitimate the feelings expressed
in these responses.
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Of course, anyone's feelings are legitimate. I can't
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Alecia Buchanan at paragraph 91 of her statement, in
relation once again to the 40th anniversary celebration,
said:
I was fuelled with hurt, anger and
incredulity by the ashram's continued
blindness to my suffering and their
insensitivity.
At paragraph 92 she refers to the disappointment and
anger at receiving an apology via Facebook. At
paragraph 95 she refers to a deterioration in her mental
health on being advised her concerns about her abuse on the
ashram social media would be removed from public view. She
stated that:
Underneath it all was a feeling that I was
being silenced, cut off and belittled all
over again.
And you accept the validity of those feelings?
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Of course. It wasn't our intention, but of course,
that's valid.
Q.
At paragraph 100 Alecia mentions she was contacted by
a couple of people from the ashram, but later states:
I was angry that the important work of
sensitively and comprehensively looking at
the needs of the victims was delegated away
from senior management to well meaning but
uninformed and inexperienced volunteers.
MR KERNAGHAN:
DR BENNETT:
legitimate?
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Mm-hmm.
Q.
I'll just read out a couple more of the statements and
you can wait until the end and if there is anything that
you think is unreasonable, perhaps you can let me know.
A.
Mm-hmm.
MR KERNAGHAN:
Your Honour, I don't mean to be annoying, I
probably am being annoying, but is this really a helpful
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Go ahead.
DR BENNETT:
Q.
Ms Tetlow, I will read a statement and,
if you could just say "yes" at the end of it, meaning, yes,
that is, you accept that as being legitimate and that was a
contributor or that type of response from a survivor was a
contributor to your new position?
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Mm-hmm.
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I was at [APL]'s statement, and to paragraph 90. She
refers to the Facebook apology as being a token apology,
and that's how it felt to her.
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Yes.
Q.
At paragraph 91 she refers to the survivor support
pack and states she felt she was very insulted by being
offered free counselling all these years after the abuse.
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Yes.
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In the statement of [APK] at paragraph 61, she states
she was insulted at the ashram's approach to us, including
setting out why she'd not taken up any of the services that
were listed in the survivor pack.
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Yes.
Q.
In [APA]'s statement at paragraph 66 she said she was
offended at being contacted via Facebook and not personally
and referred to the blocking of the posts on Facebook also.
In Tim Clark's statement at paragraph 57 he sets out
communications with Bert Franzen from the taskforce, and he
refers to personal and intimate issues that he discussed at
the time. In paragraph 60 Mr Clark states that Mr Franzen
would no longer take his calls. Mr Clark stated --
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MR KERNAGHAN:
Sorry to interrupt, but I object to this
process that's being adopted by the Commission in relation
to Tim Clark because, as I understand it, his statement
hadn't been served at the time that I took instructions in
relation to the apology.
DR BENNETT:
If that's the case, I'm content to pass over
Mr Clark's then.
THE WITNESS:
Yes.
THE WITNESS:
In relation to the - and I'm not at all
taking away from the feelings of the victims about us
contacting them via Facebook, and this is quite possibly
another failing - we didn't actually know who they all were
and how to contact them, so that was our first opportunity
to do it.
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Q.
I'll take you next to the statement of
Bhakti Manning. At paragraph 69 she talks about the
Facebook apology and, amongst other things, states:
The apology came out of the blue and on an
emotional level it was devastating for me.
She also stated:
I was also experiencing an intense episode
of reliving body trauma around the abuse
which had been triggered by the apology.
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Yes.
Q.
At paragraph 73 she sets out her response to receiving
the cease and desist letter. She felt shaky and distressed
and then hurt and angered.
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Yes.
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So, in this, these were your first and early steps of
the ashram, and you accept and acknowledge the legitimacy
of those responses?
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Yes.
Q.
Ms Tetlow, I'm going to take you back to the child
protection policies which you refer to from paragraph 29
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From paragraph 95 you raise the issue of compensation,
and at paragraph 94 you state that when the issue does come
up, that it will be something to be decided at the board
level.
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Mm-hmm.
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In addressing the Commission in the context of making
the apology on behalf of the ashram, Mr Kernaghan said a
few things, and I quote Mr Kernaghan. He said:
However, my clients also recognise that
those first steps [and those were the steps
we were just talking about] may seem
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DR BENNETT:
Thank you.
Ms McGlinchey?
Yes.
Mr O'Brien?
Thanks.
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MR O'BRIEN.
Q.
I wanted to ask you first of all about
the structure of SYA and the comment that you made in both
your statement and your evidence about the flat structure
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of the organisation.
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Yes.
MR KERNAGHAN:
Perhaps Mr O'Brien can identify himself and
who he acts for, for the benefit of those listening.
MR O'BRIEN:
Q.
Sorry. My name's O'Brien, I act for a
number of the people who were abused by Akhandananda
Saraswati. So I'll just repeat that. I'm interested in
asking you about the concept of a flatline organisational
structure.
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Okay.
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In particular, the concept that the decisions are made
by consensus; is that the effect of your evidence in
relation to how decisions are made been within the
organisation?
A.
Definitely. They're not made by one person.
Q.
When you were answering Counsel Assisting's questions
there was an acknowledgment, I think, that certain people
have certain responsibilities; for example, you have
accounting responsibilities within the organisation. Is
that so?
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Yes.
Q.
Some have been described as somewhat perhaps spiritual
leaders within the organisation. Is that also the case?
A.
It would be more accurate to say senior teachers.
Q.
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Senior teachers?
Yes.
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I've read a statement by a person called Mary Thomson,
who's also referred to as Rishi?
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Yes.
Q.
I don't believe she'll be called to give evidence, so
I'm going to ask you questions that I otherwise might have
asked her.
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Okay.
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She also talks of this flatline organisation. She
also says that she's available to be a spiritual consultant
if called upon to do so. Is that something you're familiar
with?
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I think what she's referring to is like an elder who's
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In terms of?
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In terms of the way in which you were going to deal
with these concerns that were raised in late 2013 about the
ashram's past?
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We've discussed them with her, yes.
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I wasn't familiar with the term "Rishi" so I looked it
up on Wikipedia, the fountain of all knowledge, and I
realised that it means, it's a poet who's regarded as a
sage or a saint. Is that the same sort of concept that
you'd apply to this particular person's role in your
organisation, as a saint or a sage?
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At the risk of offending her, I wouldn't call her a
saint. She is - you see, in our tradition Rishis are
generally very senior Swamis and they tend to be married
couples that get given this title. So it's a recognition
of their experience and their knowledge of the teachings
and their application of them and the length of time that
they've been in the tradition.
So, if I had a personal problem, for example, I might
go and talk to Rishi about it because she's got a lot of
wisdom and common-sense. Sometimes we do use her in that
way. You know, if people are a bit troubled they might go
and talk to her. It's more that kind of spiritual
leadership than anything else you might be referring to.
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Is she, as Akhandananda was in the 1980s, seen as a
principal disciple of Satyananda? Is that a similarity?
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A senior disciple, yes.
Q.
So, in many respects someone such as Rishi is in a
very similar position to someone such as Akhandananda?
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No, I don't think so. She doesn't have control over
the operation of the ashram. People don't look at her like
as a guru. I mean, I understand from some of the evidence
that's gone before, that people did look at Akhandananda
like that. People don't look at Rishi like that. They
look at her as a senior, wise teacher who they can go to to
ask advice on things, or even just ask about yoga practices
and application of them, things like that.
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Acharya is a term given to a teacher, and a teacher is
a very high position in the Hindu caste system,
particularly the Hindu caste system, are you aware of that?
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Maybe.
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In fact, as I understand it, from the limited research
that I've done, an acharya is the top of the Brahmin caste?
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I'm not sure about that.
Q.
Maybe I should ask someone else about that; is that
the case?
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Yes.
Q.
What I'm suggesting to you is that, although you're
saying it's a very flatline structure, there is certainly a
level of hierarchy in terms of seniority; correct?
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Well, there's respect, you know, so I respect Rishi
because of her position, but if it came to, for example,
making a decision about how to act in accordance with laws
or regulations or something like that, I wouldn't go to her
for advice on that because I'd have much better knowledge
of it than she would.
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But if she said I want to do it in a particular way -Well, if it wasn't legal, I wouldn't let her.
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Right, if it wasn't legal, but if it was something
that she was suggesting it ought be done in a particular
way, because she's a Rishi, you'd defer to her?
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No, not necessarily. We have some quite robust
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Yes.
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Did you know that he was involved in setting up and
administering - whether he administered - sorry, setting up
at least a fund called the Save Swamiji Support Fund?
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No.
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Did you know that he was one of the people during the
trial process and leading up to the trial process who said
that the people who were making allegations against
Akhandananda were lying?
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No.
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It wouldn't surprise you, though, to know that he
might have had those thoughts if he was a supporter of
Akhandananda during the trial?
A.
I know that he didn't initially believe the
allegations, but he later completely transformed his
opinion of the matter.
Q.
Do you now in hindsight, bearing in mind that he at
least initially and for a long period of time supported
Akhandananda through the trial process, that he was a very
poor choice for a member of the taskforce?
A.
We did have some discussion about this at the time,
because obviously - yes, I appreciate that that could have
been seen as quite a poor choice, but he was one of the two
main people I think who was instrumental in making sure
that Akhandananda never came back to the ashram again. So,
once the scales had fallen from his eyes, so to speak, he
was very active in preventing him from returning.
It was felt that, because of his knowledge of those
situations, or the times back then, it would be very useful
for us, because I think it's important to appreciate that
us as a relatively new management team, we didn't have any
detailed knowledge of what had gone on then; I mean, it was
something that was - I'd heard about, but I didn't know the
names of the victims or exactly what had happened and all
the details of it.
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Sorry, I take that back. I do know the names of the
three people involved in that.
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And did you know, either from your own knowledge or
from others who you'd spoken to about what had transpired
back in the 1980s, and particularly around 1987, that there
had been a very serious split in the organisation between
those who supported the children who'd been abused and
those who supported Akhandananda?
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Yes, I'd heard that that had happened, yes.
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And you knew that Haribodh must have been involved in
that split in some way?
A.
I don't know about involved in the split.
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But if the organisation had split as a result of the
allegations as they emerged, then you knew that he would
fall on one side or the other?
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Yes.
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And that must have been a tremendously - you'd know
from your own personal experience - that must have been a
tremendously emotional period for everyone concerned?
A.
I imagine it would have been, yes.
Q.
A.
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So again I ask you in retrospect, putting him on the
taskforce, particularly if you didn't have a good idea of
what went down and how it all happened, was a very poor
judgment call?
A.
I accept that it could have - yeah, it was a poor
decision.
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You'd understand that when people who were abused by
Akhandananda came to learn that he was part of the
taskforce, you could understand that they would be -A.
Now I do, yes.
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A.
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In the 1980s?
I've got no idea about that.
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But you recognise that things had to be updated and
changed in terms of policies and practices?
A.
Maybe I haven't made myself very clear. Years ago,
and we're talking about at least 10 years ago with the
formation - or rather, when the academy became an RTO, at
least since that date and probably before that we've had
very good policies and procedures in place because we need
to for that purpose.
So, the consideration that was going - and I am only
speaking from secondhand because obviously I wasn't there
at the ashram last year - was around making sure that those
things were available so that people knew what our policies
were around these things, they knew what the channel was,
for example, if there was a problem, a grievance situation
etcetera, and the ongoing work that had been commissioned
with Bert Franzen in 2012, I think, was around just
reviewing all those policies and making sure they were
up-to-date.
Q.
I'm going to continue to ask these questions to you
because you are simply all that I have to ask.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
Mr O'Brien?
MR O'BRIEN:
Yes.
Yes, Mr O'Brien.
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Q.
Prior to the mid-morning break I was asking you about
the policies and practices that you put in place, and you
told me that that was a process that spanned about 10 years
until this year?
A.
Yes.
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I take it that, as the CEO of SYA - that is your role,
isn't it?
A.
Mm-hmm.
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That you familiarise yourself with the corporate
documents of the organisation?
A.
Some of them, yes.
Q.
I imagine that when you received a summons from this
Royal Commission enquiring into the existence and
production of documentation, you would have overseen the
process of facilitating the production of material?
A.
I didn't oversee it, I was one of a group of about
three people who put it together.
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So in that sense you did become familiar with what was
going to be produced?
A.
Yes.
Q.
What it appears was produced was a whole lot of
company minutes of meetings; correct?
A.
Which summons are you referring to? We've had three.
Q.
I don't know how many summonses you received, but you
received numerous summonses, did you?
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Three.
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During that, you produced one or all three materials
which minuted meetings of the organisation?
A.
Yes. Are you referring to the minutes from back in
the '80s?
Q.
I'm referring to the minutes of all of the meetings to
this point; right?
A.
Mm-hmm.
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Is it fair to say that there is not one record, not
one business record, which records any discussion as to the
abuse suffered by children at the hands of Akhandananda
Saraswati?
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I haven't seen personally every record, because I was
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You agreed with Counsel Assisting that it was in
forceful terms?
A.
Yes.
Q.
You said earlier in your evidence that you thought
this might have come from Niranjan?
A.
That was my assumption, yes.
Q.
And there was nothing that later led you to believe
that it was other than from him?
A.
Mm-hmm, yes.
Q.
And you said earlier in your evidence this morning
that he is in fact your guru?
A.
Yes.
Q.
A.
Your guru?
Yes.
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A.
Q.
A.
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Your guru is a man in India who is to all intents and
purposes in control of that particular brand, so it appears
from this email surely?
A.
I'm not sure about "in control of the brand". As I
mentioned earlier, the Satyananda yoga name is used outside
of India. In India it's referred to as Bihar yoga.
Q.
Thank you. In any event, you received this what
you've agreed is a forceful email?
A.
Yes.
Q.
This would have ripped at your core, him being your
guru, wouldn't it?
A.
It was upsetting, yes.
Q.
Did you feel some personal conflict between your
having this man as your guru writing this letter and your
role as the CEO of an organisation?
A.
It's a hard one to answer, because in my role as CEO,
I would respond from a management point of view, and I
don't look to Swami Niranjan for management advice or
supervision. Certainly from a personal point of view it
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And it was directed - you're one of the recipients
named, aren't you?
A.
Yes.
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So this is a serious reprimand on the one hand by your
guru?
A.
Yes.
Q.
A.
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And on the other hand it's a direction to you as a CEO
of an organisation to whom you have corporate
responsibility?
A.
Yes.
MR KERNAGHAN:
I object to that. I'm not sure Mr O'Brien
means the specific words that he says there. If he does,
then I object. I just ask Mr O'Brien to clarify who he
says that she has corporate responsibility to in the
context of the question he's been asking about the
correspondence with India? If he's referring locally, then
there's no issue; if he's referring to in India -THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
That's the context in which I
understood the question, but more importantly what
Ms Tetlow understood by the question. Was it intended to
link corporate responsibility to the organisation in
Australia, Mr O'Brien?
MR O'BRIEN:
THE WITNESS:
again?
Maybe I misunderstood.
MR O'BRIEN:
Q.
Of course. Do you understand as a CEO,
you have quite a lengthy history in corporate endeavour and
accounting; that's correct, is it not?
A.
Yes. I've never been a CEO before though.
Q.
Right, but you understand corporate responsibility,
don't you?
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Yes.
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As a CEO, you have corporate responsibility to the
organisation for whom you are the CEO?
A.
Yes.
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I was suggesting that you had a direction from your
spiritual guru -A.
Yes.
Q.
-- to you as an organisation for whom you had a
corporate responsibility; that's the situation, isn't it,
with this email?
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Yeah, but I wouldn't necessarily have taken it as
that.
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A.
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Your response was to apologise, wasn't it?
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Yes, but the response was in the cultural - okay, let
me put it in these terms: The way this is worded and the
nature of the letter is, it's a very Indian cultural thing.
So you have to understand it from that point of view. To
me, I mean, after the initial reaction - you have to bear
in mind I was overseas when this occurred, so I only got
this secondhand - to me, this letter, yes, it was very
confronting and upsetting and all that, but it also led me
to think that he was operating on, not the full
information. Because what he's referring to in that first
point, about the way in which we responded to the Royal
Commission summons, had already been identified as a
mistake and corrected, and obviously he wasn't aware of
that fact.
Q.
Did you set him straight?
A.
Yes. In our response we did, yes. This is what I
mean by, in my statement where I said something along the
lines of, "We felt like a full apology and explanation to
India was the best way to deal with this so we could get on
with matters here." My focus, or our focus rather, was
responding to the Royal Commission in dealing with these
matters. The way we responded to India was the most
effective way of dealing with that matter, whilst also
focusing on what was important here, which is this.
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The situation is that Ahimsa was not at all qualified
or trained to deal with someone in Tim Clark's position,
was she?
A.
I don't know her qualifications, but it's possible,
yes.
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Forgive me, but you're the CEO of the organisation -I wasn't then.
Q.
You weren't at that stage, but you were still involved
in the running of the organisation?
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Yes.
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And you were involved in Ahimsa's appointment to the
task?
A.
Yes.
Q.
So your knowledge in terms of that discussion, that
discussion that said, okay, let's give her this position -A.
Yes.
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-- was that you had knowledge of that decision, and
you were involved in that decision?
A.
I was; I can't remember the details of it, but I was
involved.
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Did anyone ever ask, well, has she got some
qualifications that might make her suitable for that
particular difficult task?
A.
I can't remember.
Q.
Do you remember if there was any discussion about what
qualifications she did have, if any?
A.
I do remember that we shared amongst us as a group our
background, to help give background to each other of what
our experience and - I'm not sure if we included
qualifications, but certainly experience in that, to give
context to it.
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Let's include training.
her training in that regard?
A.
I don't remember.
Q.
So it probably didn't happen; it probably was the case
that there was no discussion as to her training
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children?
A.
I don't remember any reference to having experience in
dealing with abused children.
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A.
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And, of course, Tim was then referred to Bert Franzen?
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I think that happened before she left the taskforce,
because Tim was asking questions around child protection
policies and procedures now, and so Ahimsa felt that Bert
was better placed to respond to that as he had been helping
the ashram with those things.
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And of course we know a little bit about Franzen
because he's given a statement to the Commission, he's a
human resources specialist?
A.
Yes.
Q.
It appears he has no qualifications in dealing with
victims of trauma or abuse?
A.
Not to my knowledge.
Q.
And he was seen by your organisation as the
appropriate contact person?
A.
In terms of, talking about policies, yes.
Q.
His name and details were given by the organisation to
Tim Clark, a victim of the abuse of Akhandananda in the
1980s, isn't that the case?
A.
Yes, because Tim was asking about policies and how we
protect children now.
Q.
Did Ahimsa, to your knowledge, give a - let's call it
a debriefing or a handover -A.
Yes.
Q.
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-- to Franzen?
Yes.
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Which included, I expect, some of the detail that
Mr Clark had told Ahimsa about the abuse as a child?
A.
I'm not sure about that, but I know she did have a
handover with him.
Q.
In any event, you understand that Tim Clark from his
statement had to then go through and document to another
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victims'
that and
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Oh,
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Yes. Tim then tries desperately to call Franzen and
is met with no response, not even picking up the phone?
A.
My understanding is that, the day or the afternoon
that he was trying to get in touch with Bert, he was in
meetings and couldn't answer his phone and he got several
messages from Tim. My understanding is it got quite
aggressive, and understandably if he's very upset but -Q.
Unfortunately we haven't got Franzen to ask about
these things, so I'm asking you, and you did have the
responsibility for putting Franzen in the position; that is
right, isn't it?
A.
Not me alone, but as a management team, yes.
Q.
You can understand that someone in Tim Clark's
position might feel that Franzen was hopelessly inept at
dealing with the sort of trauma that he was going through?
A.
Yes.
Q.
You recall Tim's evidence to the effect that having to
go through that and receiving the survivor kit was akin to
having to go through the whole emotional experience and
trauma all over again?
A.
Yes, I remember him saying that.
Q.
So it re-traumatised him, the process that was engaged
by the organisation?
MR KERNAGHAN:
I object. I appreciate that this is the
only witness that my friend has to cross-examine, but
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Q.
I'll read from Mr Clark's statement as tendered in
relation to this matter:
I went through a very similar path with
Bert as I had with Ahimsa and I found this
very distressing. To be honest, I felt
re-traumatised all over again. I thought
to myself, 'They'd got me again'.
A.
Q.
Can you understand where someone in his position might
come from, to feel that he'd been re-traumatised?
A.
Yes, I understand that. I don't have any question
about the feelings or responses of the victims; I
completely understand that they feel the way they feel.
I'm not disputing that.
Q.
You mean, both in relation to what happened in the
1980s and also what happened in 2014?
A.
Sure.
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What does it involve, what does a fire ceremony
involve?
A.
Usually it's combined with the chanting of certain
mantras, and you have a number of people sitting around the
fire making - offering substances into the fire as the
mantras are chanted. It's a very thousands of years old
Vedic ceremony.
Q.
Would you be surprised then if you learnt that my
clients, all of whom were in the ashram in the 1980s for
several years, had never engaged in a havan fire ceremony?
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No, I wouldn't be surprised, because I don't think
they were performed back then; it's something that's been
introduced into the ashrams more recently.
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Did you hear [APL] read an email that had been sent to
the organisation about this particular fire ceremony?
A.
Could you remind me of the email?
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It was pretty blunt, it referred to a fire ceremony in
language that suggests it was a complete waste of time for
victims. Do you remember that?
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Okay. Yes, I remember something about that, yes.
Q.
The question naturally has to be, how on earth was a
fire ceremony or a havan ever going to be of any assistance
to these victims of abuse?
A.
The fire ceremony was part of many actions or things
that we tried to do this year, and everything that we did
or decisions we made, we were trying to do something that
would be helpful and we realised that we didn't succeed in
that, which is one of the reasons why we're so welcoming of
this Royal Commission, because obviously we haven't done
the right thing, so what is the right thing? We're hoping
that this process will help us determine what that is.
But specifically in answer about havans, we use havans
as - in one way we use them is actually for healing. So we
do that every week anyway in the ashrams. You can consider
it a - you know, like, in the Christian religion, people
pray for each other or pray for others to help them in
life's difficulties or for healing or whatever; maybe you
could consider it as equivalent to that. It's quite
symbolic as well
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Can you appreciate the position of a victim of child
abuse, who'd never before heard of a havan or participated
in one, that they might think that having such a ritual is
just meaningless?
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Yes.
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That people chanting around a fire was never ever
going to go anywhere near a healing process for them?
A.
Yes, I can appreciate that.
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And that they would be extremely skeptical of an
organisation whose response is to have a fire ceremony to
somehow deal with the trauma that they've experienced?
A.
Yes, but I think it's important to remember that the
fire ceremony was one part of what we were doing.
Q.
Do you accept, Ms Tetlow, that financial compensation
is an important part of the redress that you're promising
to these victims of Akhandananda Saraswati's emotional,
sexual and physical abuse?
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Yes.
Q.
And do we expect then that there will be an offer of
financial compensation from your organisation to at least
my clients in the foreseeable future?
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I expect that we will engage with individuals and look
at each case on its own terms.
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MR O'BRIEN:
Mr Terracini?
MR TERRACINI:
Q.
Terracini's my name, I represent the
Bihar School of Yoga, those that allegedly sent a forceful
email to you. Does the Bihar School of Yoga, or in fact
Swami Niranjan, does he have any role in the day-to-day
management of any ashram in Australia?
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No.
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Do they have any positions on any boards in any ashram
in Australia?
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No.
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Why not?
A.
I'm talking about, when I say "consult them", I'm
talking about maybe big structural decisions, so not
something that's to do with the management of the ashram.
Q.
So you'd consult them on philosophies rather than
management, is that fair enough?
A.
Yeah. I haven't actually consulted with them on
anything though.
MR TERRACINI:
Nothing further.
Ms McKenzie, no?
Mr Taylor?
<EXAMINATION BY MR TAYLOR:
MR TAYLOR:
Q.
Michael Taylor's my name, I'm the
solicitor appearing for Bhakti Manning in these
proceedings. Can I just take up the last set of questions
Mr Terracini was asking you about and take you to a
specific piece of evidence that you gave earlier this
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Yes.
Q.
In using the word "perceived", are you saying that the
Indian organisation, if I can use that clumsy term, had no
involvement in relation to this process?
A.
This process, being the Royal Commission?
Q.
A.
Yes.
No, they haven't had any involvement.
Q.
By your answer there, were you meaning to convey to
the Royal Commission that that email of 7 October 2014, and
perhaps your reply, was the only communication between
Australia and India?
A.
There was one other occasion where I gave them an
update on what was happening.
Q.
it's
that
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If you see in the first line there, "I agree with
Yoga" - "Munger" is a reference to India?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Further down there's talk in the email that Yoga sent
to Franzen and was copied to a number of people, including
yourself. Once again, there's reference to Munger?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Is that the only other occasion you're referring to?
A.
No. I sent them an email, I can't remember exactly
when, it was after we had responded to the first summons.
I just sent them an email saying - I can't remember exactly
the details, but along the lines of "everything had gone
quiet".
Q.
Why would you be drafting out something for Munger to
review on or about 7 July 2014 if that was the case?
A.
This is in relation to a different kind of matter.
Q.
Is that not an involvement in India being involved in
the operations of your organisation?
A.
Well, this matter, and I don't think anything was ever
drafted and sent to them, but this matter was in relation
to how we could communicate between us; because the second
point that was raised in that email of 7 October was to do
with the removal of affiliation of a teacher, and certain
aspects of that were to do with his behaviour elsewhere in
the world. So this raised a question with us as to whether
we should have some kind of protocol between us if, if
something occurs in one location, we should communicate
with each other about that.
Q.
I'll repeat the question, is that not some involvement
of India in the day-to-day running operations of the
Australian organisation?
A.
Well, only insofar as communication; not in terms of
the actual running of the Australian ashram.
Q.
Who's Ratnashakti, and I'll spell that in case my
pronunciation, which has been poor all through this
hearing -A.
That's all right, I know who you're meaning.
Ratnashakti, she is a Swami in India. I'm not sure of her
official position but she assists Swami Niranjan.
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If the document behind tab 160 could be brought up,
SYA.0003.001.0037_R. That's an email you received on or
about 22 March 2014?
A.
Yes.
Q.
A.
Q.
Is that not evidence of that person being involved in
the day-to-day running of the Australian organisation?
A.
I wouldn't say necessarily the running of it, but
certainly wanting to be kept informed of what was going on.
Q.
Can I move to a different topic.
healing day session?
A.
Yes.
Q.
A.
Q.
Were you aware that that session had apparently been
recorded by people at the ashram?
A.
Yes. When you say "people", we recorded it. I don't
mean just general people.
Q.
Yes, I wasn't suggesting people outside the ashram,
but people associated with the ashram recorded it; correct?
A.
Yes, we recorded it.
Q.
Was any announcement made prior to the healing session
commencing that it would be recorded?
A.
I can't remember.
Q.
If I suggest to you that that wasn't done, would you
disagree with that?
A.
It's possible; I can't remember.
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That's H-R-I-D-A-Y-A-N-A-N-D-A?
Yes.
Q.
That's the person you described in your statement as
the spiritual head, I think was the term you used?
A.
Yeah.
Q.
Were you aware that she was acquainted with Bhakti
Manning over a long period of time?
A.
Not until recently, no.
Q.
A.
Did Rishi ever tell you that she knew Bhakti Manning?
She did mention it recently, yes.
Q.
A.
How recent?
Within the last month.
Q.
A.
Not before?
Not that I can remember.
Q.
Did you see any of the Facebook entries that appeared
on the ashram's Facebook?
A.
Yes.
Q.
A.
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Was that a Facebook entry
not counsellors were available
deal with the issues that were
A.
Maybe. My memory of it's
Q.
Do you have some memory that that was one of the
issues that Mrs Manning was raising on Facebook?
A.
I think so.
Q.
Is it correct to say that, until Mr O'Connell came on
board at the healing session day, the ashram hadn't engaged
any counsellors?
A.
No external counsellors, no.
Q.
When you say external counsellors, what internal
counsellors did you have?
A.
We had during the Easter weekend, and even now
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Q.
Since there's only been four on the leadership group,
how do you come to make a decision? What process do you
follow?
A.
As a normal committee would, we discuss it and then we
vote on it.
Q.
A.
Q.
Have you ever given any thought to what might happen
if that occurs?
A.
I guess, we carry on discussing until we came to an
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Q.
In your statement at paragraphs 5 and 11 you set out
in some detail your background and working history.
A.
Yes.
Q.
Do I take it that, as part of that, there was a
necessary evil where you had to deal with lawyers?
A.
No, not really, not in my professional life, no.
Q.
You've never had to deal with in-house counsel at
either PricewaterhouseCoopers or the Macquarie Group?
A.
No, I don't think so.
Q.
Certainly at one stage, however, you believe and
understood that Mr Franzen was providing the ashram with
legal representation and advice; correct?
A.
Not he himself, but he had someone in his firm who was
a lawyer.
Q.
So you didn't understand at any stage that Mr Franzen
was a lawyer?
A.
No.
Q.
You saw the cease and desist letter that was sent to
Bhakti Manning prior to it being sent to her by Mr Franzen?
A.
Yes.
Q.
A.
Q.
If that could be brought up on the screen, I think the
best example of it is tab 157 which is SYA.0003
.001.3378_R. Just scroll down and have a look at that
document for me. You agree that's the cease and desist
letter that you approved to be sent to Mrs Manning?
A.
Yeah.
Q.
If we could just go down to the bottom of the first
page and over the page, got no doubt about that, seen that
document?
A.
No, it looks like it, yeah.
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A.
Q.
Down the bottom of the page is the footnote.
read that for me please?
A.
Satyananda organisation is defined to
include the following entities; Yoga
Association of Mangrove Mountain Limited,
Satyananda Yoga Academy, Satyananda Ashram,
the trustees for the Satyananda Yoga Trust,
the trustee for the Sannyas Ashram Trust,
Sivananda Math Australia, International
Yoga Fellowship Movement Australia, Yoga
Association of Victoria trading as Rocklyn
Yoga Ashram and Satyananda Yoga Rocklyn,
Swami Niranjanananda Saraswati, the estate
of Swami Satyananda Saraswati.
Can you
Q.
You provided Mr Franzen with the instructions to send
this letter?
A.
I agreed with him that we would send this, yes.
Q.
A.
Q.
Sorry, as part of the leadership group of the
organisation?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Once again I apologise in advance for my poor
pronunciation, Sivananda Math Australia.
A.
Yes, that's a dormant company that no longer exists.
Q.
Why are you sending a letter on behalf of a dormant
company?
A.
That is a mistake.
Q.
A.
Q.
A.
One of?
One of the entities, yes.
Q.
What is it?
A.
It's a company that holds the licences and trademarks
for the Satyananda name in Australia.
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Below that, second from the bottom, Swami
Niranjanananda. You're purporting to act on his behalf?
A.
No, that's a mistake, and so is the next one.
Q.
How did those three mistakes occur?
organisation -A.
Carelessness, I suppose.
Q.
Sorry, let me finish the question if you could.
Projecting to someone, you were acting on behalf of these
other people for whom you did not act?
MR KERNAGHAN:
I object to that question.
true. The use of the word "you".
MR TAYLOR:
That's not
MR KERNAGHAN:
Can I add to the objection this: The Royal
Commission, through Counsel Assisting, has made a
determination not to call Mr Franzen or to traverse what
evidence he might have to say about the matter.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
And this is about the instructions
given to Mr Franzen, not what Mr Franzen did, Mr Kernaghan.
MR TAYLOR:
Yes.
MR TAYLOR:
MR KERNAGHAN:
I appreciate that it's not desirable to
hear my objections, but the objection that I then make is
that, if it's the case that we're going to go down this
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Q.
A.
Q.
A.
Q.
You say in your statement at paragraph 48, you were
involved in making changes to the initial cease and desist
letter; correct?
A.
Yep.
Q.
And it was only after you personally made changes that
the letter was sent out; correct?
A.
Yes, me and at least one other.
Q.
Throughout your statement, and I'll take you to the
various sections if you need to refresh your memory, you've
talked about not seeking formal legal advice.
A.
Yes.
Q.
What sort of legal advice were you seeking? I'm not
asking what advice you obtained, but what type of legal
advice do you think you were receiving as an organisation?
A.
Could you be a bit more specific? When you say
"type"?
Q.
For instance, I'll give you an example. At
paragraph 41 of your statement on page 9, you say:
On or around 20 March 2014 the previous
leadership team [and you give the names]
decided to shut down the comments on the
Facebook page for legal reasons. We did
not receive formal legal advice about
whether the posts were libelous. However,
we were informed of a comment reported to
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Yes.
Q.
A.
Q.
The very first sentence of that paragraph is, you
decided to - that's not you personally, the previous
leadership team:
... decided to shut the comments on
Facebook down for legal reasons.
A.
Yes.
Q.
Did you know the legal reasons?
A.
Well, as I go on to say, because we'd heard via a
third party that Ms Kate Eastman had said it wasn't a good
idea to leave them up there. We'd also received a
communication via the Satyananda Yoga Teachers Association,
from a member there who was threatening to sue us if we
didn't take the page down, for the contents on there.
Q.
In paragraph 36 of your statement you make reference
to Mr Craig Leggat, barrister. Once again you state:
I believe he provided unofficial advice on
how to frame the apology that was issued.
A.
Yes.
Q.
Did you get legal advice or not about the apology?
A.
Well, I believe that Yogasandhan did contact Craig
Leggat and ask his advice on whether the apology was
appropriate or the content of it or something like that.
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Why would that be unofficial?
A.
Well, I suppose because he was doing it as someone we
knew rather than in a formal capacity, being paid for his
advice.
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In the legal context, do you understand that lawyers
often - despite perhaps the community's general view often do pro bono work for organisations?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Did you think that this was pro bono legal work that
was being done on behalf of your organisation?
A.
I don't know.
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You were asked some questions by learned counsel
assisting about the organisation's response this year to
the various allegations of child sexual abuse and you
ultimately admitted quite frankly that we, the
organisation, didn't always get it right or do the right
thing.
A.
No.
Q.
When did you come to that conclusion?
A.
Well, I think it was something that was becoming
apparent as we went along, judging by the responses that we
got.
Q.
A.
Q.
A correct description?
A.
But it really became clear when we got involved in the
Royal Commission process, because in going through the
interview process, I mean, that was an opportunity to
really reflect back on what decisions we'd made and why and
maybe think about why it didn't work, or if it did work, so
I would say that that's probably when it was consolidated
as a realisation that, yeah, we'd made mistakes.
Q.
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If you would go to the very last page, paragraph 92.
In there you make the concession:
In hindsight the cease and desist letter
[to my client] was an emotional response
that we should never have sent as the
letter from Bhakti Manning was quite
balanced and reasonable.
When did you come to the conclusion that Ms Manning's
correspondence was balanced and reasonable?
A.
Oh, I think a few weeks after we had received it.
Q.
So when in hindsight did you come to the realisation
that the cease and desist letter should never have been
sent?
A.
Probably around about May-June time.
Q.
Are you aware of any person associated with your
organisation tendering an apology to Ms Manning in relation
to the cease and desist letter?
A.
No.
Q.
The organisation never formally withdrew the cease and
desist letter?
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No.
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MR TAYLOR:
I have nothing further, thank you,
Your Honour, Commissioner.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
Mr Kernaghan?
MR KERNAGHAN:
I won't be very long. I note the time, I
don't anticipate being much longer than 15 minutes.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
All right, we'll take the luncheon
adjournment now, Ms Tetlow. Mr Kernaghan's indicating he
does have some questions for you and there may be some
re-examination, so we'll resume at 2. Thank you.
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THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
MR KERNAGHAN:
Mr Kernaghan.
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MR KERNAGHAN Q.
For the benefit of those appearing, my
name is Aaron Kernaghan and I represent the organisation of
which you are a CEO, amongst others. Ms Tetlow, you were
asked some questions in relation to the nature and
existence of a relationship between a student a guru.
A.
Yes.
Q.
I'd like to ask you, is it the case that there is no
expectation that you have a guru at the ashram?
A.
No, you don't have to have one.
Q.
Is that an expectation that in your experience is
existing elsewhere in the practice of Satyananda yoga?
A.
I think so, yes.
Q.
Is it also the case that there is no expectation that
you have to obey a guru if you do have one?
A.
No - well, no, I don't think so.
Q.
In relation to that, as you've indicated in terms of
your own relationship with your guru, in your day-to-day
life, including any professional work that you might be
doing, in the relationship there is an ability or a
facility to dissent and disagree?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Consistently with that your corporate functions as a
CEO have given you occasion to do that?
A.
Yes.
Q.
You were asked some questions about the corporate
structure of the organisation and you were referred to
particular entities; one is the Satyananda Yoga Academy
Limited, or as it's often referred to in these proceedings,
SYA.
A.
Yes.
Q.
That organisation is an Australian public company, is
that right?
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Yes.
Q.
The other organisation, YAMM, the Yoga Association of
Mangrove Mountain Incorporated is, as the title suggests,
an incorporated association?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Although there's been reference to the term "board of
directors" for that organisation, it is, as I understand
it, a committee like most incorporated associations; is
that correct?
A.
Yes, that's right.
Q.
A.
Q.
And it rents the premises upon which it sits, or
practises that operation, from SYA?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Could the witness be shown on the screen
YAM.0004.001.0001_R. We're just showing you the email from
India to which you've been taken during the course of your
evidence today. That email is dated 7 October this year?
A.
Yes.
Q.
That email came after you had responded to the first
summons issued by the Royal Commission; is that right?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Am I correct in understanding that that email had also
come after interviews had commenced with various persons at
the ashram with members of the Royal Commission
investigative team?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Is it the case that that letter came to you in
response to, not only the Royal Commission, but another
matter involving the discipline of a person who had some
affiliation with the organisation quite apart from the
Royal Commission?
A.
Yes.
Q.
You've referred in your evidence to
referring to the Royal Commission issue;
point in that letter, if you have a look
referring to the issue of the accredited
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individual that was being dealt with quite apart from the
Royal Commission?
A.
Yes, I got them the wrong way round.
Q.
If we scroll down to point number 2, you will see
there that that's the paragraph commencing, "The name of
Swami Niranjan"?
A.
Yes.
Q.
There's a criticism observed in that opening
paragraph or that opening line, and then there's a comment
in the second paragraph. It's the third paragraph that
extracts the relevant line of which the criticism is
raised; is that correct?
A.
Yes.
Q.
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Yes.
Q.
Which is quoted there. You see there's a reference to
that being submitted in writing to the Royal Commission?
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Yes.
Q.
Is it your understanding that that was submitted in a
chronology asked for by the Royal Commission as to how
things were running at the ashram?
A.
Yes, that's right.
Q.
Is it the case that, upon the submission of that, or
that comment in the context of a larger document, it was
corrected subsequently?
A.
Yes, and quite quickly, within a couple of days.
Q.
A.
Q.
It's the case, isn't it, that the matrix management
structure that you've referred to as being flat, I think,
in your evidence before in fact does not involve Swami
Niranjan?
A.
No, not at all.
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The apology then that you issued to India in response
to this issue is, in no small part, an apology for an
incorrect statement that was originally submitted and then
corrected; is that right?
A.
Yes, that's right.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
Mr Kernaghan, could you just assist
us: I'm not clear about how the organisation in India gets
to see those documents.
MR KERNAGHAN:
Yes.
that, Your Honour.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
MR KERNAGHAN:
Q.
It's clear from this email that India, to use that
term in its generic sense, India was aware of the document
in question?
A.
Yes.
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And they had seen that initial draft that had been
provided to the Royal Commission?
A.
It seems so, yes.
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A.
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Is it your understanding that somewhere along the
lines a copy of it was emailed to India?
A.
Yeah, I think it must have been.
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But it's not the case that that was done under your
auspices?
A.
No.
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And it wasn't a case that was done by way of a formal
process by the ashram?
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No.
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The Royal Commission has received a number of emails
from the ashram showing the way in which the leadership
group frequently interacts through email, and often it's
the case that they do so with large numbers of addresses on
those emails; is that a fair assessment?
A.
Yes, sometimes, yes.
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Is it the case that the original draft response to the
Royal Commission, the chronology that we spoke of a moment
ago, was circulated through a similar process?
A.
Yes.
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And in that way members of the email group may have
come into contact with that information?
A.
Yes.
Q.
You were asked a question about whether or not what is
contained at the bottom of that email that's on the screen
in front of you, if we go right down to the very bottom,
the six points there - or at least some of those six
points, would constitute a significant or fundamental
commercial impact. You draw a distinction between a
commercial impact and a constitutional impact; is that
right?
A.
Yes.
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Obviously, there is an enunciated connection to India
in terms of the statement of principles in the
organisational instruments of your institution?
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Yes.
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Has the ashram sought to take instruction from India
about how it should deal with the Royal Commission?
A.
No.
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Has the ashram been involved in the presentation of
information to the Royal Commission?
A.
The Indian ashram?
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Sorry, has India been involved in the ashram's
presentation of information to the Royal Commission?
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No.
Q.
Was it the case, finally, that a specific summons to
produce this email was served on the ashram, and the ashram
complied?
A.
Yes, that's right. I think that was the third summons
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we received.
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And that third summons, you issued instructions that
it should be welcomed?
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Yes.
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You were asked some questions about the qualifications
of, among others, Ahimsa to be on the taskforce?
A.
Yes.
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At the time that Ahimsa was on the taskforce, what was
the conceived point of the taskforce?
A.
To respond to the survivors.
Q.
Was it intended that the taskforce would engage in any
form of counselling?
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No.
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You used the term "point of contact" in your evidence.
Do we take you to mean from that, that she was an avenue by
which people could have communication with the ashram?
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Yes, as one avenue, so the one point of contact.
Q.
And that point of contact may change depending on what
the areas of concern were for the people who were making
that contact; is that right?
A.
Yeah, that's right.
Q.
You were asked questions about the perception of the
conduct of the ashram at and around the time of the 40th
anniversary being potentially understood to be avoiding
adverse publicity. Do you remember those questions?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Just to clarify, the 40th anniversary was not entirely
based around the meeting or the session on the issue of
former child abuse, was it?
A.
No, there were other activities as well.
Q.
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A.
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And of course, the information of the session or the
fact of the session that was contemplated involving Terry
was something that had been publicised and released?
A.
Yes.
Q.
It's the case that it was publicised on Facebook; is
that right?
A.
Yes, and I think we also sent it out to our database
as well.
Q.
I wonder if paragraph 33 of Ms Tetlow's statement
might be placed on the screen. You were asked some
questions about child protection policies and the
procedures that the ashram maintains today.
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Yes.
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You were asked some questions about people's
understanding and knowledge of that. You see in
paragraph 33 that you refer to what might be referred to as
an induction process?
A.
That's right.
Q.
That induction process, you say there, applies to
people as they are approved and arrive at the ashram?
A.
Yes.
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What sort of people are we talking about?
A.
We're talking about new residents. So, I'm not
talking about someone who comes for a weekend course or a
week-long stay, but people who come to stay for a period of
time.
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A.
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That's an internet-based system, is it, a computer
system?
A.
It's a shared network.
Q.
Anyone who's living there has access to that
information?
A.
Yes, they do.
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Is it the case that surrounding this Royal Commission
you have communicated with all the residents at the ashram
about the existence of the Royal Commission and what it is
looking at?
A.
Yes, we have, in many different ways. We've held
several meetings.
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A.
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You've arranged for counselling to be made available
to any person who seeks it?
A.
Yes.
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And you've indicated, both through that process you've
just spoken of and through press releases, to all and
sundry, that you are participating in the Royal Commission?
A.
Yes.
Q.
You were asked questions about the things that had
been done wrong, and specifically vis--vis the apology
that you and your team instructed me to read onto the
record at the start of this process over this last week and
a half.
A.
Yes.
Q.
You were referred to, in your earlier evidence, about
the Facebook course of conduct?
A.
Yes.
Q.
That, of course, is a reference to a number of emails
or postings at least on a Facebook wall for the ashram?
A.
Yes.
Q.
One of the things that you've been taken to is the
complaints of many witnesses and survivors that the apology
wasn't acceptable in those terms.
A.
Yes.
Q.
A.
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You've sat here every day of the Royal Commission; is
that correct?
A.
Yes, I have.
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Yes.
Q.
I just ask that the following be placed on the screen,
Ringtail YAM.001.001.1407_R. If we can scroll down to the
words, "Dear Alecia" at the very top, the first line. This
is the text of an apology sent to Alecia Buchanan, but
that's of no consequence, it's an apology that, as you
understand it, was sent to a number of persons on Facebook
and the Royal Commission has a copy of that information?
A.
That's right.
Q.
It was sent in essentially the same terms; is that
right?
A.
Yes, it was.
Q.
This apology here was issued on Facebook under the
hand of Yogasandhan who's been sitting with you during
these proceedings at the Royal Commission?
A.
Yes.
Q.
And is no longer required to give evidence, but
nonetheless she's been here with you to assist?
A.
Yes.
Q.
It is the case that when this was sent it was sent
with your knowledge?
A.
Yes, it was.
Q.
And the consent and agreement of those in positions of
responsibility?
A.
That's right, yes.
Q.
You see that it refers to Mangrove's history and to
the existence of the Royal Commission just in the first 10
lines?
A.
Yes, that's right.
Q.
A.
Q.
Even at that very early point, which was February of
this year?
A.
Yes.
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February or March I think.
this year. Is that right?
A.
Yes, that's right.
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If we scroll down to the second page, so 1408, and at
the bottom of that page, you see if we keep going, that it
says there:
On behalf of Mangrove Yoga Ashram.
A.
Yes.
Q.
From Yogasandhan, and then there's a response. You
heard Alecia Buchanan give evidence of that response and
how she later modified her position as she came to have a
greater understanding of her own personal situation?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Do you tell the Royal Commission that that letter, via
Facebook, was a genuine attempt to apologise?
A.
Oh, definitely.
Q.
Although you've been asked to accept that people at
various times haven't liked that effort, and you've
accepted their feelings about that, you I take it didn't
think that this would be the end of the process?
A.
No, this was just the beginning.
Q.
And you sought to extend it by the engagement of
Terry?
A.
Yes.
Q.
And you did that in response to further complaints
about Bert Franzen; is that right?
A.
Yes, probably.
Q.
When Terry suggested to you that there might be a more
informed and a more modern way of approaching a dialogue
with survivors of abuse, you enquired into that?
A.
Yes, especially as he had experience in that area.
Q.
And then that process commenced and I understand is
ongoing with some people?
A.
Yes, he's still working with some.
Q.
And that's a process that doesn't involve you; he
doesn't inform you of the contents of that process, that's
something that's done in an independent setting?
A.
Yes, and I don't want to know either; that's entirely
between him and the individuals.
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A.
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-- is designed to provide them with privacy and
continuity so that they can express those issues of concern
to them?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Is it the case that, when you issued this apology on
Facebook - and by saying "you", I mean the organisation
that you're a CEO of - you were attempting to shut down any
victims?
A.
No.
Q.
Is it the case that you were trying to stop the
prospects of compensation?
A.
No.
Q.
Is it the case, and clearly it mustn't be because
there's a reference to the Royal Commission there, but is
it the case you were trying to defer people away from
participation in this process?
A.
No.
Q.
Is it the case that, when you tried to get Terry
involved to provide some assistance you were - well, what
were you trying to do there?
A.
We were trying to open it up further, you know, and
provide an avenue for people to engage with us.
Q.
Was part of that engagement you sought, to find out
what people wanted?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Before posts started appearing on Facebook, had there
been such an engagement?
A.
No.
Q.
Had anyone who identified as a survivor come forward
seeking anything of you?
A.
No, not to my knowledge.
Q.
So the Facebook was the start of an opportunity to
engage?
A.
Yes, that started with Tim.
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You heard Mr O'Brien's questions that there was no
effort by the organisation prior to the Facebook issues at
the end of last year, so just about 12 months ago, to look
into its history or to expose or ventilate these issues?
A.
Yes.
Q.
A.
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Conversely, there was no attempt from without to do
that; is that right?
A.
Yes.
Q.
A.
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But when there was, in the form of the posts on
Facebook, a process began?
A.
Yes, it did.
Q.
And that's the process that you've referred to in the
apology that you've instructed me to read in this room?
A.
Yes, that's right.
Q.
You were asked a question by Mr O'Brien in relation to
compensation and you indicated something about that in your
preparation or preparedness to deal with that on a
situation by situation basis; is that right?
A.
Yes, it is.
Q.
I want to show you a document. Would Your Honour
pardon me for just a moment. There's copies there for
Counsel Assisting and two for Your Honour and Commissioner
Milroy. I have informed Counsel Assisting I'll be taking
the witness to this document.
A.
Q.
A.
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It's a letter that you understand was served upon me
on your behalf on Friday last by Mr O'Brien -A.
Yes.
Q.
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Without requiring you to give a response at the
moment, is it the position that, in regards to that
request, you will consider all requests for assistance,
whatever they might be?
A.
Yes, of course.
Q.
A.
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Is it your hope that what can be achieved is not the
threat of civil action or legal proceedings, but rather, a
meaningful discussion and an attempt to resolve the needs
of those people who have survived abuse?
A.
Yeah, we hope to engage in a discussion about this.
Q.
Is your evidence that the reason you do that is
because, you don't just want to provide some sort of
monetary recompense, but also to have a better
understanding of what happened?
A.
Yes.
Q.
And that's part of your attempt to stop it from
happening again?
A.
Yes, definitely.
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Thank you.
DR BENNETT:
I'll just, Your Honour, take up one of the
issues Mr Kernaghan raised.
RE-EXAMINATION BY DR BENNETT:
DR BENNETT:
Q.
Once again, you were taken to the email
of 7 October and you were asked about a question that I
asked you about the commercial - I'd suggested or I'd asked
you whether you'd considered if India carried out those six
actions, whether there might be a significant commercial
impact upon the ashram.
A.
Yes.
Q.
Mr Kernaghan raised with you the idea that there's a
constitutional impact on the one hand -A.
Yes.
Q.
A.
Q.
Are you in agreement that, looking squarely at the
commercial impact side, that in fact if India carried out now, for example, if the Bihar School of Yoga formally
renounced all ties and associations with the institutions
of August, and secondly, if all links with Australian
institutions would be removed from the official websites of
the Bihar School of Yoga -A.
Yes.
Q.
-- now, that would create quite a stir in yoga
circles, wouldn't it?
A.
It would create a stir, yes.
Q.
And it certainly would have a significant impact upon
the Satyananda brand here in Australia, wouldn't it?
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And that brand is, certainly at a commercial level,
associated with the commercial strengths of the ashram?
A.
Some of the activities of the ashram, yeah; more the
educational side than the retreat side.
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If you're running an ashram with a bit of it - well,
an ashram that's got the name Satyananda as its overarching
organisation, and then you have educational programs, some
within it that have the Satyananda name associated with it
and some that don't, don't you think it's the case that in
a sense all of the programs are to some degree tarred from
a negative point of view or in a positive point of view
associated with the Satyananda name?
A.
Well, if we put the education side to one side for a
minute, our branding has been as a member of yoga ashram
for more than a couple of years now. So on that side of
things the branding I don't think would make so much of an
impact.
On the educational side, it would mean that we would
have to - we could still offer teacher training, we just
couldn't do it with that name. So, yes, it would have an
impact but I'm not convinced it would be disastrous
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Just then sticking with the word I'd used, it would
have a significant impact?
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Yeah, it would have an impact, yeah.
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MR O'BRIEN:
Sorry, Your Honour, may I seek Your Honour's
leave, Commissioner, to re-examine this particular witness
in light of the tendering of a letter under my hand on
behalf of my clients that I didn't anticipate would be
tendered in the evidence of the witness, that last tender?
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
MR O'BRIEN:
Alright, go on.
Thank you.
RE-EXAMINATION BY MR O'BRIEN:
MR O'BRIEN.
Q.
You know already that I represent those
people identified in that letter.
A.
Mmm.
Q.
You understand that that letter was more or less
invited by your lawyer in these proceedings?
A.
Well, we invited a discussion.
Q.
You invited, did you not through your lawyer, my
clients to get in touch with me and to speak to your lawyer
or to write to your lawyer about compensation?
A.
Yes.
Q.
And so, you understand that that letter is in
fulfilment of that invitation?
A.
Yes, I didn't quite expect it during the proceedings
though.
Q.
Do you understand that my clients only have engaged me
for the course of these proceedings; I'm not a lawyer
outside of these proceedings for these six witnesses?
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MR KERNAGHAN:
know that?
I object to that.
MR KERNAGHAN:
Your Honour, how could this witness know
the purpose and the nature of the engagement of this
lawyer?
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
She's
answer that and I think she's
you as "she", Ms Tetlow, I do
A.
That's okay. I was just
MR O'BRIEN:
Q.
You understand that that letter sets out
some of the difficulties in putting an offer of
compensation, that it's hard to particularise the instances
for each client as they're going to be different, aren't
they?
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Mmm.
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People have been traumatised and treated differently
by the ashram; that's correct, isn't it?
A.
Yes, but that's not reflected in this letter.
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Doesn't it say:
It's impossible to give an accurate
assessment of the actual loss and damages
maintainable in each instance at this time.
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Yes.
MR KERNAGHAN:
Just for the benefit of those I represent,
I wonder if Mr O'Brien can confirm that he's instructed to
make that concession right now? If that's what he's
putting to my witness and if that's the course we want to
go down, then I would ask that he confirm that.
MR O'BRIEN:
What concession?
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MR KERNAGHAN:
I understand the quote. It's being put to
this witness, and if it's being put to this witness, is
Mr O'Brien instructed to make that concession here today?
MR O'BRIEN:
That's a ridiculous concession to ask me to
make. The document speaks for itself.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
It's contained in the letter,
Mr Kernaghan, I don't understand the objection. I don't
want these proceedings to turn into a marketplace
bargaining though, Mr O'Brien, if that's where you're
going.
MR O'BRIEN:
I don't intend to do it, that's why I didn't
produce this letter, but unfortunately Mr Kernaghan did.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
Yes.
MR KERNAGHAN:
Your Honour, did I hear you say "yes" just
then. Mr O'Brien asked this witness about compensation,
not I. He opened up the issue. It was he on behalf of
witnesses who have given evidence to this Royal Commission
and who added to that evidence during the course of
proceedings last week and after an apology was issued. It
is he that drafted a letter to my clients on the eve of
them giving their evidence.
Now, if there's any criticism to be made of anything
unfortunate happening, it is of Mr O'Brien and this letter,
and it is directly relevant to this Commission
understanding what response this institution is having to
deal with, because it's happening right now and as a result
of these proceedings.
MR O'BRIEN:
Can I respond to that? There was a request
by Mr Kernaghan for me to address him. If he didn't think
I was going to do it by writing and if he didn't think I'd
put a figure on it, then he must have been seriously
deluded.
Further, the compensation issue is a broad issue the
Commission is obviously going to be interested in. It is
addressed in each of his witnesses' statements
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
MR O'BRIEN:
Yes.
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Yes, go on.
Thanks.
Q.
You understand that this letter sets out how a court
might go about awarding damages to a claimant in these type
of circumstances?
A.
I'm not sure how a court would do it but I understand
what this says.
Q.
This says:
In an effort to quantify the damages as
best as possible with moderation to reflect
the different standing for each of the
claimants with reference to each of the
heads of damages that are available to be
awarded, the claim is set out.
MR KERNAGHAN:
I object. This is just scandalous. It
misses the point, he's talking about damages, not
compensation. It misses the point entirely and it's
relevant that the Commission take note of this, because
this is the response of a lawyer when an institution comes
here and tries to do the right thing. It's just
unacceptable, Your Honour.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
helpful, Mr O'Brien.
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MR O'BRIEN:
There seems to be something in the magnitude
of the claim that's put and the documents tendered, and yet
the claim itself is broken down into various components
which are awardable should this matter ever proceed to
court. Surely, that's of matter - and it's raised not by
me, it's given on a without prejudice basis and then it's
tendered in these proceedings and it's as though this
witness can comment on the big claim but not on the
proportions of it.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
I understand all of that and you've
been given the opportunity to ask questions on it, on the
basis that you gave that admission to the Commission that
you didn't know it was going to be tendered. But in this
context, to ask those sort of detailed questions of this
witness is not helpful to us.
MR O'BRIEN:
Thank you. I won't ask that type of
question, I'll persevere if I may.
Q.
You understand that, if this matter were to proceed,
there would be different types of compensation awarded to
the claimants for different types of injuries,
psychological injuries, loss of income, that type of
matter?
MR KERNAGHAN:
I object. There could be, not would be.
And again, I don't know how that assists, but in any event.
MR O'BRIEN:
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document here?
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Yes.
Q.
A.
Q.
The document has an expiry date. Do you anticipate
that your organisation will respond by way of -A.
By 4 o'clock this afternoon?
Q.
Yes.
A.
No, because, if we respond to this, then we're not
considering all the other victims, and we can't make a full
assessment of what's appropriate in each individual case.
Q.
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How do you intend to work out what each claim is worth
by way of offer of compensation?
MR KERNAGHAN:
I object.
Thank you.
Q.
What sort of timeframe should these witnesses, [APA],
[APH], [APK], [APL], Jyoti and Tim Clark, what sort of
timeframe should they expect to receive information from
you, correspondence from you or your lawyers, as to
compensation?
MR KERNAGHAN:
I object. How does it assist? Given what
Your Honour's just observed, it's not taking it anywhere,
Your Honour.
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MR O'BRIEN:
And there's now said to be a genuine attempt
to make compensation, they've accepted that's going to be
financial. What sort of timeframe are we looking at? If,
for example, they would say, look, we'll get back to you
within a week or two weeks, then that would be, I'm sure,
for those people who have been the victims of Akhandananda
Saraswati's abuse, they would be heartened to hear it and
it would be the institution's response.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
I don't know if Ms Tetlow's taken
advice about how long it's likely to take to put an answer
together. Have you?
A.
Not yet, no. I've been concentrating on this.
MR O'BRIEN:
Thank you.
Q.
What's the third person's role?
A.
She used to be the administration director at the
ashram, still has some connection, and given her experience
and knowledge of the history of the ashram it was useful to
involve her in - we formed a group called the Institutional
Response Taskforce, so we're now taking it the next step to
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Q.
Can I now ask you about the cease and desist letter,
that's the letter that was sent to Mr Taylor's client,
Bhakti Manning.
A.
Yes.
Q.
And you've been asked some questions by Mr Taylor
about that and given some answers already to the Royal
Commission about that. I really want to ask you the same
question in the sense of, who formed the group that gave
instructions for the cease and desist letter to be sent?
A.
So, that happened pretty much on the same day. Ahimsa
called me in the morning - because around that time I was the other members of the management team were away, so I
was dealing with ashram business, general, normal business,
and then this matter as well.
There was a recognition that it was quite a lot for
one person to have to deal with so Ahimsa called me up, and
she had had some involvement - I'd been down to Rocklyn
ashram a couple of weeks previously and that's when the
Facebook stuff was really going on and she and
Atmamuktananda had some involvement in how we were
responding there.
So she rang me and said I think we need to support you
in this, how about we form a taskforce of various people
that can manage the response so that it wasn't falling on
the management of the ashram alone, so we agreed to that,
and then I sent out the invitation to the people that we
thought it would be appropriate to include.
Then later on that day, I think it was the same day, I
may be incorrect here, we'd had some communication from
Bert recommending that we send this cease and desist
letter, so we had a bit of back and forth about the
content.
Q.
Was there any dissent amongst the group as to whether
or not it was appropriate to send that letter?
A.
I think the overriding feeling was, we didn't really
feel like we had the expertise in that area, we were
relying on what we were being advised by Bert and his legal
person, that this was the right approach to take. I think
it's probably, I don't know if this is right - there was a
lot of pressure around that time because the people who the
letter - had got Bhakti Manning's letter had gone to, the
teachers of the Satyananda Yoga Teachers Association, were
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Thank you.
COMMISSIONER MILROY:
Ms Tetlow, I have one question for
you and partly in follow up to this answer. You mentioned
earlier in your evidence that you'd been looking at
policies around child protection for around about 10 years
as a registered training organisation and moving through
various stages of policies. Is that right?
A.
My understanding is that at least since we've been a
registered training organisation we've had all these things
in place.
Q.
Do you think that you're at a level now where you've
got sufficient confidence in the training and in the
policies and in the way that the training is done that
staff or other people that are residents of the ashram
would have sufficient confidence in knowing what to do and
how to go about reporting, particularly if it was regarding
perhaps a more senior member of the organisation?
A.
I think the policies are there, but I think where we
fall down at the moment is the training and the
implementation of them, and that's one of the things that
we've already been in touch with someone, an external
expert in this area, to provide training on; because I
can't hand on heart say that we would do that brilliantly
at the moment.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
Q.
And that relates to the
evidence that you gave before about the next stage of
development of training, is that -A.
Yeah.
Q.
A.
Q.
-- that that's an external expert?
A.
We will get an external, yes. And that's two levels
of training, it's training for those of us in senior
positions who would be the ones taking responsibility for
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Thank you.
DR BENNETT:
There are a number of procedural issues that
are required to be dealt with. Perhaps I might start with
Mr Terracini at the Bar table who would like to say a few
words.
MR TERRACINI:
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(Mr Terracini)
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(Mr Terracini)
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DR BENNETT:
Thank you. I also seek a direction not to
publish the written submissions until further directions,
Your Honour, and I've got a document.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
DR BENNETT:
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Thank you.
DR BENNETT:
Elly Buchanan, [APM], Peter Wakeman, Phil
Connor, a supplementary statement from Phil Connor, Mary
Thomson, Brian Thomson, Dayasagar Saraswati, Alison Ely,
Atonis Makris, Helen Cushing, Clive Salzer, [APY], [APD],
Shirley Hetherington, Maree Walk, Michele Bruniges and
Yogasandhan. That's 17 documents.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
Exhibit 21-31.
Thank you.
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DR BENNETT:
I ask that the Royal Commission discharge the
obligations under the summons to appear for a number of
people that are currently outstanding, perhaps I'll just
list the names for Your Honour.
That's Elly Buchanan, [APM], Peter Wakeman, Phil
Connor, Brian Thomson, Dayasagar Saraswati, Helen Cushing,
Alison Ely, Atonis Makris, Terry O'Connell, Bert Franzen,
Clive Salzer, [APY], [APT]. And there are 14.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
DR BENNETT:
Just lastly, Your Honour, a reminder to the
parties of the directions not to publish certain names and
the pseudonym orders that remain in effect.
THE PRESIDING MEMBER:
Obviously, if anyone has any
concerns about who or what those orders are, that can be
clarified with the legal team assisting you, Dr Bennett.
DR BENNETT:
Yes.
Nothing further?
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add [1] - 11556:18
added [3] - 11518:38,
11518:43, 11578:23
addition [1] 11504:43
additional [1] 11592:24
address [2] 11578:36, 11591:17
addressed [2] 11578:43, 11590:12
addresses [1] 11564:45
addressing [1] 11526:41
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11581:16
APL [2] - 11546:18,
11581:16
APL]'s [1] - 11524:22
APM [2] - 11592:9,
11593:6
APM] [1] - 11591:40
apologise [8] 11517:11, 11517:34,
11540:20, 11552:1,
11555:30, 11570:17,
11577:13
apologised [1] 11514:40
apologises [1] 11518:30
apologising [1] 11517:46
apology [54] 11509:39, 11509:45,
11511:46, 11512:44,
11513:1, 11516:25,
11516:27, 11516:30,
11516:43, 11517:13,
11517:22, 11517:26,
11517:32, 11518:7,
11518:33, 11518:41,
11519:1, 11519:14,
11520:2, 11522:12,
11523:21, 11523:26,
11523:45, 11524:23,
11525:5, 11525:23,
11525:25, 11525:32,
11526:42, 11534:19,
11540:39, 11548:13,
11558:39, 11558:43,
11558:45, 11560:21,
11564:1, 11564:2,
11568:21, 11568:36,
11569:6, 11569:7,
11569:16, 11569:38,
11571:10, 11572:22,
11578:24, 11583:23,
11583:28, 11583:39,
11583:45, 11585:8
appalling [3] 11519:29, 11589:35,
11589:47
apparent [1] 11559:31
appear [2] - 11589:2,
11593:2
appeared [2] 11514:28, 11552:24
appearing [3] 11548:44, 11561:9,
11571:36
application [2] 11529:39, 11530:15
applied [1] - 11579:24
11503:29, 11504:47,
11505:25, 11508:2,
11509:4, 11509:19,
11509:20, 11509:32,
11513:23, 11513:34,
11514:3, 11514:5,
11514:39, 11514:44,
11514:47, 11515:14,
11515:45, 11516:9,
11516:10, 11516:12,
11516:15, 11516:24,
11516:25, 11516:38,
11516:40, 11517:14,
11517:27, 11517:29,
11517:35, 11517:39,
11517:41, 11517:46,
11518:13, 11518:23,
11518:25, 11519:19,
11519:27, 11519:46,
11521:14, 11521:19,
11521:21, 11521:22,
11522:15, 11522:27,
11523:39, 11525:42,
11526:14, 11526:25,
11526:42, 11527:5,
11527:6, 11527:10,
11527:18, 11527:23,
11529:9, 11530:9,
11531:31, 11531:42,
11531:45, 11532:32,
11533:12, 11534:21,
11535:22, 11541:14,
11541:35, 11541:42,
11541:43, 11543:13,
11546:12, 11547:40,
11547:43, 11548:1,
11548:26, 11549:12,
11549:18, 11550:38,
11551:31, 11551:35,
11551:36, 11552:41,
11553:5, 11553:15,
11553:20, 11554:14,
11561:17, 11562:14,
11562:33, 11563:31,
11564:39, 11564:43,
11565:26, 11565:29,
11565:32, 11565:36,
11565:38, 11565:45,
11566:27, 11566:36,
11567:18, 11567:28,
11568:2, 11568:32,
11574:23, 11575:4,
11575:5, 11575:11,
11575:12, 11575:20,
11577:24, 11582:44,
11582:45, 11583:20,
11583:26, 11584:14,
11584:20, 11584:28,
11587:24, 11589:13
Ashram [7] 11502:42, 11509:18,
.10/12/2014 (110)
11513:35, 11555:9,
11555:11, 11555:15,
11570:6
ashram's [8] 11514:33, 11521:11,
11522:7, 11524:33,
11529:25, 11541:2,
11552:25, 11565:40
ashrams [5] 11503:4, 11503:6,
11503:12, 11546:16,
11546:41
aspect [1] - 11502:11
aspects [7] 11502:45, 11502:47,
11503:39, 11509:40,
11512:45, 11523:22,
11550:28
assessment [4] 11564:46, 11577:30,
11577:46, 11580:45
assets [6] - 11508:4,
11508:9, 11508:24,
11508:40, 11508:42,
11509:21
assist [9] - 11507:33,
11508:19, 11515:38,
11529:17, 11529:18,
11532:8, 11564:7,
11569:22, 11581:21
assistance [3] 11546:28, 11571:27,
11573:24
Assisting [15] 11498:39, 11515:39,
11515:42, 11517:2,
11537:44, 11538:1,
11540:47, 11549:5,
11556:19, 11557:6,
11572:33, 11572:34,
11588:28, 11591:3,
11591:9
assisting [3] 11523:32, 11559:22,
11593:19
Assisting's [1] 11528:20
assists [4] - 11507:37,
11508:11, 11550:45,
11580:29
associated [5] 11551:36, 11560:20,
11575:4, 11575:14,
11575:18
association [9] 11503:47, 11505:34,
11506:16, 11506:24,
11511:44, 11512:10,
11513:27, 11513:39,
11562:5
B
background [3] 11542:36, 11554:2
bad [1] - 11576:10
balanced [2] 11560:9, 11560:12
Bar [1] - 11588:35
bar [1] - 11585:7
bargaining [2] 11578:11, 11581:40
barrister [1] 11558:36
based [7] - 11502:7,
11517:21, 11517:25,
11519:14, 11566:42,
11567:40, 11590:23
basis [7] - 11505:39,
11510:24, 11515:12,
11572:28, 11573:29,
11580:7, 11580:14
bear [2] - 11523:6,
11540:25
bearing [1] - 11532:24
bears [1] - 11538:23
became [3] -
11500:38, 11535:15,
11559:38
become [6] 11500:26, 11502:35,
11502:37, 11512:4,
11536:22, 11589:3
becoming [1] 11559:30
beds [1] - 11515:31
beforehand [2] 11517:28, 11576:2
beg [1] - 11557:15
began [1] - 11572:18
begin [1] - 11590:35
beginning [3] 11504:13, 11534:23,
11570:24
behalf [15] - 11511:29,
11514:25, 11517:47,
11523:39, 11526:42,
11544:7, 11555:34,
11556:2, 11556:10,
11559:18, 11570:6,
11572:44, 11573:10,
11576:17, 11578:21
behaviour [1] 11550:28
behind [5] - 11511:22,
11514:19, 11549:3,
11549:44, 11551:10
beings [1] - 11590:24
belittled [1] 11522:19
below [1] - 11556:1
benefit [4] - 11528:5,
11561:9, 11573:4,
11577:35
Bennett [2] 11498:39, 11593:19
BENNETT [37] 11499:3, 11499:7,
11499:9, 11500:7,
11500:14, 11508:13,
11508:17, 11516:6,
11517:11, 11518:16,
11518:21, 11521:43,
11522:37, 11523:36,
11524:15, 11525:7,
11525:21, 11527:26,
11574:13, 11574:16,
11574:18, 11576:12,
11588:11, 11588:20,
11588:33, 11590:44,
11591:29, 11591:35,
11592:4, 11592:9,
11592:24, 11592:35,
11593:1, 11593:13,
11593:21, 11593:25,
11593:32
Bert [10] - 11524:43,
11535:27, 11543:8,
11543:11, 11544:21,
11545:28, 11570:31,
11584:34, 11584:42,
11593:8
best [7] - 11499:20,
11501:47, 11509:45,
11531:14, 11540:40,
11554:31, 11579:17
better [8] - 11530:37,
11543:12, 11573:39,
11585:22, 11586:10,
11586:35, 11586:36,
11586:37
betterment [1] 11511:10
between [16] 11502:27, 11503:31,
11505:46, 11517:8,
11517:45, 11518:12,
11529:4, 11533:7,
11538:41, 11549:38,
11550:25, 11550:30,
11551:1, 11561:13,
11565:16, 11570:47
bhakta [1] - 11501:12
Bhakti [9] - 11525:22,
11548:44, 11552:11,
11552:15, 11552:28,
11554:24, 11560:8,
11584:3, 11584:46
big [5] - 11548:10,
11548:12, 11548:25,
11575:9, 11580:9
Bihar [18] - 11501:9,
11511:43, 11512:9,
11512:15, 11512:21,
11512:25, 11512:30,
11512:38, 11514:1,
11538:31, 11547:37,
11547:38, 11549:10,
11574:35, 11574:39,
11575:38, 11588:45,
11589:34
bit [13] - 11502:16,
11503:24, 11503:29,
11503:42, 11529:1,
11529:45, 11543:15,
11552:34, 11557:35,
11575:11, 11584:35,
11586:19, 11586:34
bits [1] - 11499:34
blame [2] - 11517:40,
11518:24
blinded [1] - 11579:1
blindness [1] 11522:8
blinkers [1] - 11579:1
block [1] - 11520:6
blocked [1] -
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11521:18
blocking [2] 11523:38, 11524:40
blue [1] - 11525:25
blunt [1] - 11546:22
board [7] - 11505:19,
11506:11, 11507:14,
11526:34, 11526:38,
11552:41, 11562:8
boards [4] - 11505:23,
11505:38, 11507:4,
11547:43
body [2] - 11525:31,
11588:15
bono [3] - 11559:6,
11559:14, 11559:17
book [1] - 11508:43
borrowings [1] 11508:34
boss [1] - 11503:27
bottom [9] - 11508:32,
11508:37, 11510:15,
11554:37, 11555:3,
11556:1, 11565:12,
11565:13, 11570:3
boundary [1] 11515:9
box [1] - 11518:4
Brahmin [1] 11530:23
brand [5] - 11537:23,
11538:27, 11574:47,
11575:1, 11575:3
brand" [1] - 11538:29
branding [2] 11575:20, 11575:22
break [2] - 11535:39,
11536:1
Brian [5] - 11504:21,
11505:27, 11583:35,
11592:11, 11593:7
BRIAN [1] - 11592:20
brief [1] - 11588:38
brilliantly [1] 11587:33
bring [2] - 11502:10,
11541:42
broach [1] - 11589:18
broad [2] - 11508:23,
11578:41
broader [3] 11506:34, 11583:26,
11583:27
broadly [4] 11517:41, 11518:25,
11524:2, 11541:2
broken [1] - 11580:4
brought [4] - 11549:1,
11549:43, 11551:10,
11554:30
C
capacity [1] - 11559:3
carelessness [1] 11556:7
carried [3] - 11574:21,
11574:34, 11589:40
carry [4] - 11513:5,
11513:8, 11513:21,
11553:45
case [43] - 11500:29,
11501:30, 11512:40,
11513:22, 11518:41,
11519:21, 11520:25,
11525:7, 11527:2,
11527:10, 11528:28,
11530:27, 11537:33,
11542:45, 11543:30,
11545:3, 11547:27,
11550:18, 11550:40,
11556:47, 11561:16,
11561:24, 11562:37,
11563:34, 11563:42,
11564:34, 11564:38,
11564:45, 11565:2,
11565:44, 11567:10,
11568:1, 11569:25,
11571:10, 11571:16,
11571:20, 11571:22,
11571:26, 11573:29,
11575:15, 11580:45,
11582:36
Case [1] - 11498:17
11535:12
changes [4] 11506:4, 11515:14,
11557:19, 11557:23
channel [1] 11535:24
chanted [1] - 11546:8
chanting [2] 11546:5, 11547:7
chapter [1] - 11519:29
child [25] - 11514:45,
11514:46, 11514:47,
11515:24, 11516:25,
11516:34, 11516:39,
11517:28, 11517:29,
11520:14, 11524:10,
11525:46, 11526:2,
11529:15, 11534:5,
11534:35, 11543:10,
11543:42, 11547:1,
11559:23, 11566:43,
11567:17, 11583:2,
11587:14
CHILD [1] - 11498:13
children [13] 11516:8, 11516:9,
11516:36, 11519:26,
11533:8, 11534:28,
11536:45, 11537:18,
11537:29, 11543:1,
11543:3, 11543:32,
11590:40
choice [2] - 11532:27,
11532:30
chose [2] - 11501:46,
11504:9
Christian [1] 11546:42
chronological [1] 11517:19
chronology [2] 11563:30, 11565:3
circles [1] - 11574:43
circulated [1] 11565:4
circumstances [2] 11541:38, 11579:10
civil [1] - 11573:32
claim [6] - 11579:21,
11580:3, 11580:4,
11580:9, 11580:35,
11581:3
claimant [1] - 11579:9
claimants [3] 11579:19, 11580:24,
11581:36
claims [2] - 11519:20,
11519:21
clarified [1] 11593:19
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11551:40, 11563:6
comment [7] 11525:10, 11527:46,
11557:47, 11558:6,
11563:11, 11563:35,
11580:9
comments [5] 11521:10, 11521:19,
11557:43, 11558:3,
11558:22
commercial [11] 11513:22, 11513:24,
11565:16, 11565:17,
11574:20, 11574:22,
11574:30, 11574:34,
11575:3, 11575:4,
11576:7
COMMISSION [2] 11498:12, 11593:34
Commission [79] 11499:12, 11505:22,
11507:29, 11507:32,
11509:34, 11509:40,
11510:10, 11510:39,
11512:45, 11514:29,
11514:34, 11515:38,
11517:5, 11519:10,
11519:13, 11519:17,
11523:33, 11524:8,
11525:2, 11526:41,
11534:31, 11536:16,
11540:32, 11540:42,
11543:16, 11546:35,
11549:31, 11549:37,
11551:2, 11553:10,
11553:27, 11556:19,
11559:39, 11562:28,
11562:33, 11562:38,
11562:41, 11562:45,
11563:2, 11563:26,
11563:30, 11564:24,
11564:42, 11565:3,
11565:33, 11565:37,
11565:41, 11568:1,
11568:3, 11568:17,
11568:43, 11569:9,
11569:18, 11569:34,
11570:16, 11571:21,
11578:22, 11578:30,
11578:42, 11579:41,
11580:14, 11582:35,
11583:21, 11584:8,
11585:5, 11585:18,
11585:27, 11589:1,
11589:5, 11589:9,
11589:23, 11589:34,
11590:33, 11590:37,
11591:3, 11591:4,
11591:8, 11591:12,
11593:1
.10/12/2014 (110)
11576:6
contributed [1] 11524:9
contribution [1] 11524:11
contributor [2] 11524:18, 11524:19
control [8] - 11502:27,
11503:28, 11503:37,
11503:40, 11503:43,
11530:8, 11538:27,
11538:29
conversation [1] 11588:28
conversations [1] 11551:4
conversely [1] 11572:10
convey [1] - 11549:36
convinced [1] 11575:28
copied [1] - 11550:6
copies [1] - 11572:32
copy [5] - 11510:5,
11559:46, 11564:31,
11569:9, 11590:46
copyright [1] 11512:24
core [2] - 11513:36,
11538:37
corporate [10] 11536:11, 11539:18,
11539:25, 11539:33,
11539:42, 11539:46,
11540:3, 11540:12,
11561:35, 11561:39
correct [23] 11499:19, 11508:17,
11510:30, 11517:19,
11530:32, 11536:27,
11539:43, 11551:36,
11552:40, 11553:16,
11553:28, 11554:15,
11554:27, 11557:12,
11557:20, 11557:24,
11559:37, 11562:11,
11562:31, 11563:14,
11568:44, 11577:24,
11582:28
corrected [3] 11540:33, 11563:36,
11564:4
corrections [2] 11499:21, 11500:4
correctly [1] 11587:41
correspondence [3] 11539:27, 11560:12,
11581:18
Counsel [16] -
11498:39, 11515:39,
11515:42, 11517:2,
11528:20, 11537:44,
11538:1, 11540:47,
11549:5, 11556:19,
11557:5, 11572:33,
11572:34, 11588:28,
11591:3, 11591:9
counsel [4] 11504:19, 11504:34,
11554:9, 11559:21
counselling [4] 11524:29, 11553:11,
11566:16, 11568:11
counsellors [8] 11552:32, 11552:42,
11552:43, 11552:45,
11552:46, 11553:2,
11553:5, 11553:11
countries [1] 11512:7
couple [9] - 11499:21,
11521:2, 11521:3,
11522:27, 11522:41,
11553:1, 11563:37,
11575:21, 11584:20
couples [1] 11529:37
courage [1] 11589:25
course [24] 11500:23, 11501:45,
11502:35, 11514:37,
11515:36, 11517:6,
11521:46, 11522:23,
11539:41, 11543:8,
11543:15, 11544:11,
11562:23, 11567:5,
11567:33, 11568:28,
11568:31, 11573:26,
11576:45, 11577:38,
11578:23, 11581:1,
11585:6
courses [11] 11502:5, 11502:9,
11502:31, 11502:32,
11502:33, 11502:43,
11502:44, 11502:45,
11504:42, 11504:47,
11513:29
court [3] - 11579:8,
11579:11, 11580:6
CPD [1] - 11502:32
Craig [2] - 11558:36,
11558:44
create [2] - 11574:42,
11574:44
created [2] 11541:34, 11576:3
criminal [2] -
11531:47, 11590:8
criticism [3] 11563:10, 11563:13,
11578:28
cross [4] - 11523:30,
11523:41, 11544:47,
11557:2
cross-examination [1]
- 11557:2
cross-examine [1] 11544:47
cross-examining [1] 11523:41
cross-purposes [1] 11523:30
cultural [2] 11540:21, 11540:23
current [16] 11500:14, 11507:23,
11507:33, 11507:36,
11507:39, 11508:1,
11508:6, 11508:24,
11514:45, 11515:26,
11515:44, 11516:4,
11516:6, 11516:7,
11527:23, 11531:29
CUSHING [2] 11592:21, 11592:43
Cushing [3] 11592:12, 11592:27,
11593:7
cut [1] - 11522:19
D
damages [9] 11577:30, 11579:9,
11579:16, 11579:20,
11579:23, 11579:27,
11579:28, 11579:39
dare [2] - 11511:28,
11514:24
database [1] 11567:12
date [5] - 11513:7,
11515:27, 11535:16,
11535:29, 11580:38
DATED [1] - 11574:4
dated [5] - 11499:13,
11510:2, 11549:2,
11562:24, 11572:40
dates [2] - 11513:17,
11591:22
day-to-day [6] 11503:31, 11504:30,
11547:39, 11550:35,
11551:19, 11561:29
Dayasagar [2] 11592:11, 11593:7
DAYASAGAR [1] 11592:20
.10/12/2014 (110)
11505:34, 11506:11,
11562:9, 11583:12,
11583:31
disagree [2] 11551:44, 11561:32
disappointment [1] 11522:11
disastrous [1] 11575:28
discharge [1] 11593:1
disciple [3] - 11530:3,
11530:4, 11537:31
discipline [1] 11562:39
discontinued [1] 11512:18
discuss [3] 11503:33, 11553:37,
11583:12
discussed [7] 11503:44, 11506:5,
11524:44, 11529:26,
11537:11, 11552:33,
11583:29
discussing [2] 11553:25, 11553:45
discussion [14] 11532:28, 11536:44,
11542:19, 11542:20,
11542:33, 11542:41,
11542:46, 11553:23,
11560:29, 11573:33,
11573:35, 11576:32,
11583:26, 11583:27
discussions [3] 11530:47, 11586:1,
11586:3
disgraceful [1] 11519:29
disgust [1] - 11511:44
dispatch [1] 11512:17
disputing [1] 11545:41
dissent [3] 11561:32, 11583:42,
11584:38
distinction [2] 11505:46, 11565:16
distress [2] 11519:18, 11590:18
distressed [2] 11525:37, 11533:44
distressing [2] 11541:31, 11545:29
distribute [1] 11512:20
disturbed [1] 11585:1
11558:23, 11558:33,
11563:5, 11565:13,
11569:4, 11570:2,
11571:12, 11577:39,
11580:4, 11584:19,
11587:29
Dr [3] - 11498:39,
11504:21, 11593:19
DR [37] - 11499:3,
11499:7, 11499:9,
11500:7, 11500:14,
11508:13, 11508:17,
11516:6, 11517:11,
11518:16, 11518:21,
11521:43, 11522:37,
11523:36, 11524:15,
11525:7, 11525:21,
11527:26, 11574:13,
11574:16, 11574:18,
11576:12, 11588:11,
11588:20, 11588:33,
11590:44, 11591:29,
11591:35, 11592:4,
11592:9, 11592:24,
11592:35, 11593:1,
11593:13, 11593:21,
11593:25, 11593:32
draft [2] - 11564:23,
11565:2
drafted [2] - 11550:24,
11578:25
drafting [1] - 11550:17
draw [2] - 11517:8,
11565:16
due [3] - 11541:37,
11586:44, 11589:25
during [12] 11531:47, 11532:11,
11532:19, 11536:34,
11552:47, 11562:23,
11569:17, 11576:41,
11578:23, 11585:40,
11585:42, 11589:33
E
early [4] - 11519:37,
11519:47, 11525:41,
11569:41
earth [1] - 11546:27
Easter [4] - 11520:13,
11541:40, 11552:47,
11553:4
Eastman [3] 11558:1, 11558:8,
11558:29
educating [1] 11506:33
education [7] 11502:7, 11502:31,
11503:42, 11504:40,
11506:38, 11506:44,
11575:19
educational [3] 11575:6, 11575:13,
11575:25
effect [6] - 11515:47,
11518:42, 11528:15,
11544:37, 11590:13,
11593:15
effective [2] - 11512:4,
11540:44
effectively [2] 11505:35, 11563:20
effort [3] - 11570:21,
11572:2, 11579:16
efforts [2] - 11519:5,
11519:38
either [8] - 11509:29,
11510:30, 11515:4,
11526:6, 11533:4,
11554:10, 11570:46,
11583:38
elder [1] - 11528:47
Elly [3] - 11591:39,
11592:9, 11593:6
elsewhere [3] 11501:8, 11550:28,
11561:21
ELY [1] - 11592:20
Ely [2] - 11592:11,
11593:8
email [43] - 11510:2,
11510:5, 11510:7,
11510:10, 11510:36,
11511:1, 11511:7,
11512:32, 11513:4,
11513:17, 11513:18,
11514:3, 11514:13,
11537:44, 11538:28,
11538:34, 11540:13,
11546:18, 11546:20,
11547:38, 11549:2,
11549:13, 11549:37,
11549:45, 11550:5,
11550:11, 11550:13,
11550:26, 11551:3,
11551:11, 11551:15,
11562:22, 11562:24,
11562:27, 11562:31,
11563:39, 11564:18,
11564:44, 11565:7,
11565:12, 11565:45,
11574:18
emailed [1] - 11564:31
emails [4] - 11564:42,
11564:46, 11568:31,
11575:40
embryonic [1] 11586:13
emerged [1] -
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11533:20
emotional [7] 11525:26, 11533:26,
11544:39, 11547:19,
11560:6, 11585:2,
11590:26
emotionally [1] 11541:32
encompasses [1] 11501:11
encouragement [1] 11511:19
end [8] - 11500:37,
11503:17, 11508:41,
11509:41, 11522:42,
11524:16, 11570:23,
11572:3
endeavour [2] 11539:42, 11589:15
endeavoured [1] 11540:47
engage [6] 11527:10, 11547:26,
11566:15, 11571:30,
11571:45, 11573:35
engaged [5] 11512:36, 11544:43,
11546:13, 11552:41,
11576:44
engagement [4] 11570:26, 11571:32,
11571:37, 11577:8
enhance [2] 11506:26, 11506:47
enormous [3] 11513:22, 11513:25,
11513:30
enquired [1] 11570:36
enquiring [1] 11536:16
ensure [2] - 11511:47,
11590:39
entering [1] 11541:40
entirely [4] 11503:13, 11566:41,
11570:46, 11579:40
entities [10] 11502:28, 11503:2,
11509:23, 11555:7,
11555:39, 11555:42,
11561:41, 11583:12,
11583:15, 11586:8
entity [1] - 11509:12
entries [2] - 11552:24,
11552:28
entry [2] - 11552:31,
11589:5
enunciated [1] -
11565:21
episode [1] 11525:30
equipment [1] 11508:27
equity [2] - 11508:38,
11508:40
equivalent [1] 11546:45
errors [6] - 11519:4,
11519:46, 11523:17,
11585:9, 11585:17,
11585:28
escalated [1] 11515:5
escaped [1] 11518:10
especially [3] 11570:37, 11585:1,
11586:39
essence [1] 11562:14
essentially [1] 11569:12
established [3] 11506:24, 11509:35,
11531:26
establishment [1] 11513:33
estate [1] - 11555:16
estimate [2] - 11508:7,
11509:5
etcetera [3] 11512:32, 11535:26,
11575:40
Ethics [1] - 11510:43
eve [1] - 11578:25
event [4] - 11538:33,
11543:5, 11543:46,
11580:29
events [9] - 11511:39,
11511:47, 11518:27,
11520:4, 11520:13,
11520:31, 11534:3,
11566:46, 11589:21
evidence [49] 11515:27, 11516:38,
11516:43, 11517:3,
11517:9, 11517:15,
11517:28, 11523:2,
11523:16, 11523:33,
11524:2, 11527:4,
11527:47, 11528:15,
11528:38, 11530:10,
11534:13, 11538:5,
11538:13, 11541:8,
11544:16, 11544:37,
11545:9, 11545:15,
11545:33, 11548:47,
11551:18, 11556:21,
11562:24, 11562:44,
11563:44, 11566:25,
11568:27, 11568:47,
11569:21, 11570:11,
11573:37, 11576:18,
11578:22, 11578:23,
11578:26, 11585:5,
11585:10, 11585:16,
11587:13, 11587:37,
11589:33, 11590:34,
11591:39
evident [1] - 11516:43
evil [1] - 11554:6
evolve [1] - 11576:9
evolved [1] - 11559:34
exactly [6] - 11507:16,
11532:42, 11550:11,
11550:13, 11586:42,
11588:3
EXAMINATION [6] 11499:7, 11527:43,
11548:41, 11561:7,
11574:16, 11576:24
examination [2] 11557:2, 11560:46
examine [2] 11544:47, 11576:15
examining [1] 11523:41
example [17] 11502:30, 11503:15,
11503:40, 11513:26,
11514:3, 11514:7,
11521:32, 11528:22,
11529:42, 11530:34,
11535:25, 11549:15,
11549:23, 11554:31,
11557:38, 11574:35,
11582:4
exchange [1] 11593:30
excuse [2] - 11582:24,
11593:11
excused [1] 11588:14
exhibit [2] - 11591:44,
11592:1
Exhibit [2] - 11500:10,
11592:17
EXHIBIT [4] 11500:12, 11574:4,
11592:19, 11592:41
existence [5] 11531:28, 11536:16,
11561:13, 11568:3,
11569:34
existing [1] 11561:21
exists [2] - 11513:40,
11555:32
11541:31, 11547:11
eyes [2] - 11532:33,
11548:4
F
face [1] - 11587:3
Facebook [38] 11520:3, 11520:7,
11521:19, 11522:12,
11523:39, 11524:23,
11524:39, 11524:40,
11525:16, 11525:23,
11534:19, 11534:21,
11537:5, 11548:13,
11552:24, 11552:25,
11552:28, 11552:31,
11552:33, 11552:37,
11553:6, 11553:9,
11553:16, 11553:20,
11557:44, 11558:23,
11567:10, 11568:28,
11568:32, 11569:8,
11569:16, 11570:17,
11571:11, 11571:36,
11571:44, 11572:2,
11572:18, 11584:21
facilitating [1] 11536:18
facility [1] - 11561:32
fact [21] - 11505:15,
11508:47, 11512:47,
11513:5, 11514:4,
11518:28, 11520:45,
11521:6, 11530:22,
11534:20, 11538:14,
11540:34, 11547:38,
11549:15, 11554:27,
11562:45, 11563:44,
11567:6, 11574:34,
11585:16, 11586:23
factor [1] - 11524:3
failed [2] - 11590:27,
11590:28
failing [5] - 11518:35,
11525:17, 11534:15,
11534:16, 11537:15
failures [2] 11517:34, 11518:43
fair [5] - 11517:7,
11536:43, 11548:29,
11564:46, 11586:32
fairly [1] - 11505:3
fairness [1] - 11557:1
faith [1] - 11590:1
fall [2] - 11533:21,
11587:29
fallen [1] - 11532:33
falling [1] - 11584:27
falls [1] - 11527:4
familiar [7] -
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11516:26, 11517:15,
11528:45, 11529:28,
11536:22, 11581:29,
11581:32
familiarise [1] 11536:11
families [2] 11518:37, 11590:15
far [5] - 11513:47,
11521:12, 11531:11,
11549:9, 11551:8
farm [1] - 11509:31
Farrer [1] - 11498:22
February [2] 11569:41, 11569:45
feedback [1] 11520:44
feelings [9] - 11521:5,
11521:44, 11521:46,
11522:22, 11522:37,
11525:15, 11541:1,
11545:39, 11570:22
feet [1] - 11517:44
fellow [1] - 11531:37
Fellowship [2] 11555:13, 11555:38
felt [14] - 11509:44,
11521:28, 11524:24,
11524:28, 11525:37,
11532:36, 11540:39,
11541:32, 11541:40,
11541:41, 11543:11,
11544:4, 11545:29,
11586:17
few [8] - 11508:8,
11526:43, 11560:13,
11579:2, 11582:23,
11585:17, 11588:35,
11589:6
figure [6] - 11508:37,
11526:30, 11578:38,
11579:32, 11579:36,
11583:13
figures [2] - 11579:24,
11580:35
fill [1] - 11503:18
final [3] - 11506:2,
11508:37, 11527:14
finally [2] - 11537:23,
11565:44
finance [1] - 11503:40
finances [1] 11507:20
financial [9] 11507:23, 11507:33,
11507:36, 11507:39,
11547:17, 11547:24,
11547:29, 11547:47,
11582:3
financially [1] -
11565:26
findings [1] 11590:36
fine [1] - 11521:16
finish [1] - 11556:9
fire [12] - 11546:1,
11546:3, 11546:7,
11546:13, 11546:19,
11546:22, 11546:28,
11546:30, 11547:7,
11547:12, 11547:15
firm [2] - 11554:16,
11554:44
first [37] - 11500:23,
11504:3, 11504:14,
11506:6, 11507:34,
11510:35, 11510:38,
11510:40, 11511:2,
11519:34, 11519:42,
11519:47, 11521:7,
11521:9, 11525:18,
11525:41, 11526:46,
11527:45, 11531:26,
11531:33, 11537:10,
11540:30, 11550:1,
11550:12, 11554:37,
11554:42, 11558:18,
11562:27, 11562:44,
11562:45, 11569:5,
11569:34, 11572:47,
11575:44, 11590:45,
11591:39
firstly [8] - 11582:24,
11582:34, 11585:7,
11585:27, 11588:47,
11590:46, 11591:2
fit [2] - 11509:15,
11585:36
flat [2] - 11527:47,
11563:43
flatline [3] - 11528:10,
11528:43, 11530:31
flawed [4] - 11519:37,
11531:12, 11531:13,
11531:18
flaws [2] - 11531:20,
11531:22
flows [1] - 11537:10
focus [3] - 11509:46,
11540:41
focuses [1] - 11586:6
focusing [1] 11540:45
follow [4] - 11526:10,
11527:4, 11553:36,
11587:12
followed [1] 11514:46
following [4] 11512:4, 11516:46,
11555:7, 11569:3
footage [1] - 11512:22
footnote [2] 11554:47, 11555:3
forceful [4] 11514:10, 11538:2,
11538:34, 11547:37
foreseeable [1] 11547:25
forgive [1] - 11542:8
forgiven [2] 11537:21, 11537:26
form [10] - 11501:10,
11516:42, 11519:12,
11519:35, 11523:32,
11566:16, 11568:8,
11572:17, 11584:26,
11592:36
formal [8] - 11503:18,
11505:39, 11507:13,
11557:29, 11557:45,
11558:8, 11559:3,
11564:38
formalised [1] 11585:47
formally [3] - 11512:9,
11560:25, 11574:35
formation [2] 11534:30, 11535:15
formed [4] - 11534:9,
11534:10, 11582:46,
11584:9
former [1] - 11566:43
forms [1] - 11524:11
formulating [1] 11531:1
formulation [1] 11531:34
forth [1] - 11584:35
fortitude [1] 11537:16
forward [4] 11519:13, 11537:11,
11571:40, 11589:27
foundation [1] 11590:22
fountain [1] 11529:29
four [6] - 11503:32,
11553:27, 11553:31,
11553:34, 11583:30,
11591:8
fractured [1] 11533:12
frame [1] - 11558:39
frankly [1] - 11559:24
Franzen [22] 11524:43, 11524:45,
11535:27, 11543:8,
11543:15, 11543:38,
11544:13, 11544:18,
11544:26, 11544:28,
11544:33, 11550:6,
11554:14, 11554:19,
11554:24, 11555:19,
11556:20, 11556:24,
11557:2, 11570:31,
11593:8
free [2] - 11524:29,
11553:11
frequently [1] 11564:44
Friday [2] - 11572:44,
11573:11
friend [5] - 11508:11,
11515:46, 11517:7,
11521:37, 11544:47
FROM [1] - 11592:19
front [1] - 11565:13
frustration [1] 11544:10
fuelled [1] - 11522:6
fulfilment [1] 11576:40
full [7] - 11499:9,
11509:44, 11511:46,
11512:47, 11540:29,
11540:39, 11580:44
fulsome [2] 11583:45, 11585:8
function [1] 11513:33
functions [2] 11506:43, 11561:35
fund [1] - 11532:5
Fund [1] - 11532:5
fundamental [3] 11513:43, 11565:15,
11590:29
funding [1] - 11508:1
furtherance [1] 11504:20
future [2] - 11515:22,
11547:25
G
general [4] 11551:33, 11559:13,
11579:27, 11584:14
generally [1] 11529:36
generic [1] - 11564:19
genuine [2] 11570:17, 11582:1
girls [2] - 11515:31,
11515:33
given [26] - 11511:19,
11517:4, 11517:22,
11523:2, 11529:37,
11530:17, 11531:5,
11534:27, 11534:38,
11543:16, 11543:28,
11553:19, 11553:43,
11556:24, 11561:36,
11577:11, 11578:22,
11580:7, 11580:13,
11581:21, 11582:44,
11584:7, 11585:5,
11585:15, 11586:7,
11592:1
Gosford [3] 11499:25, 11509:9,
11509:28
Governor [1] 11498:21
gravity [1] - 11514:35
great [6] - 11519:10,
11523:12, 11531:10,
11531:17, 11541:17,
11590:18
greater [1] - 11570:13
grief [1] - 11516:35
grievance [3] 11534:34, 11535:25,
11583:2
grossly [2] 11521:13, 11590:21
ground [1] - 11588:3
group [25] - 11503:26,
11505:7, 11507:5,
11507:12, 11510:36,
11526:18, 11534:32,
11536:19, 11542:35,
11553:23, 11553:28,
11553:34, 11555:26,
11556:35, 11564:44,
11565:7, 11582:29,
11582:30, 11582:46,
11583:8, 11583:19,
11584:9, 11584:38,
11585:28
Group [1] - 11554:10
groups [1] - 11583:38
guardian [1] 11516:12
guardians [1] 11516:11
guess [3] - 11502:42,
11508:9, 11553:45
guise [1] - 11590:3
guru [21] - 11501:16,
11501:22, 11501:23,
11501:26, 11501:31,
11501:33, 11501:36,
11501:38, 11501:40,
11530:10, 11538:14,
11538:17, 11538:26,
11538:38, 11538:42,
11539:11, 11540:8,
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11561:13, 11561:17,
11561:25, 11561:29
Guru [1] - 11512:33
guru's [3] - 11511:11,
11511:22, 11514:19
Gurubhakta [5] 11504:40, 11505:33,
11516:21, 11526:3,
11526:12
gut [1] - 11586:16
H
half [3] - 11501:39,
11510:32, 11568:24
hall [1] - 11527:28
HALL [1] - 11527:31
hand [9] - 11539:10,
11539:17, 11569:17,
11574:27, 11575:44,
11576:16, 11587:33,
11590:46, 11592:35
handed [1] - 11531:30
handle [1] - 11586:8
handled [3] 11509:41, 11510:42,
11512:45
handover [2] 11543:35, 11543:44
hands [1] - 11536:45
happy [5] - 11510:38,
11511:22, 11514:19,
11518:21, 11544:15
hard [2] - 11538:44,
11577:18
Haribodh [2] 11531:38, 11533:15
harm [4] - 11518:38,
11518:44, 11589:43,
11590:12
hastily [2] - 11534:9,
11534:10
havan [5] - 11545:47,
11546:1, 11546:13,
11546:28, 11547:2
HAVAN [1] - 11545:47
havans [2] - 11546:39
Hayley [1] - 11498:39
hazy [1] - 11552:34
head [9] - 11504:40,
11504:41, 11504:42,
11505:25, 11505:36,
11509:36, 11516:18,
11516:20, 11552:8
heads [1] - 11579:20
healing [7] 11521:12, 11546:40,
11546:44, 11547:8,
11551:24, 11551:39,
11552:41
10
I
ID [3] - 11504:1,
11507:27, 11510:6
idea [6] - 11533:33,
11535:6, 11558:3,
11558:30, 11574:26,
11587:4
ideally [1] - 11534:4
identification [1] 11506:17
identified [3] 11540:32, 11571:40,
11576:27
identify [3] - 11528:4,
11585:28, 11588:41
image [2] - 11537:39,
11537:40
imagine [4] 11504:32, 11529:16,
11533:27, 11536:15
immediate [1] 11512:39
immediately [2] 11512:4, 11512:26
impact [20] 11520:41, 11521:34,
11565:16, 11565:17,
11574:23, 11574:27,
11574:30, 11574:34,
11574:46, 11575:8,
11575:9, 11575:23,
11575:28, 11575:31,
11575:32, 11575:42,
11576:8, 11587:4,
11590:14
impacting [1] 11576:7
implementation [2] 11516:16, 11587:30
important [8] 11506:3, 11509:46,
11522:29, 11524:8,
11532:38, 11540:45,
11547:14, 11547:18
importantly [1] 11539:31
impossible [2] 11577:29, 11577:45
improvements [1] 11590:37
impulse [1] 11586:20
impulsive [1] 11586:27
IN [1] - 11592:42
in-house [1] - 11554:9
inappropriate [2] 11518:31, 11523:22
inappropriateness [1]
- 11523:17
incarceration [1] 11590:9
include [5] - 11506:3,
11509:3, 11542:41,
11555:7, 11584:30
included [2] 11542:37, 11543:41
including [7] 11508:33, 11512:22,
11516:39, 11517:29,
11524:33, 11550:6,
11561:30
income [3] 11509:24, 11509:25,
11580:25
Incorporated [1] 11562:4
incorporated [2] 11562:5, 11562:10
incorrect [3] 11510:28, 11564:3,
11584:33
incredulity [1] 11522:7
indeed [1] - 11590:15
independent [2] 11503:14, 11570:45
index [1] - 11592:35
India [40] - 11501:9,
11509:39, 11509:45,
11510:11, 11510:12,
11512:44, 11513:21,
11514:28, 11514:39,
11514:40, 11537:44,
11538:26, 11538:31,
11539:27, 11539:28,
11540:40, 11540:43,
11548:16, 11549:2,
11549:39, 11550:2,
11550:21, 11550:35,
11550:44, 11551:1,
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11562:23, 11564:1,
11564:8, 11564:18,
11564:19, 11564:31,
11565:21, 11565:26,
11565:29, 11565:32,
11565:40, 11574:21,
11574:34, 11589:4
Indian [3] - 11540:23,
11549:29, 11565:38
indicate [1] 11510:27
indicated [3] 11561:28, 11568:15,
11572:26
indicating [1] 11560:44
individual [5] 11501:26, 11510:42,
11529:11, 11563:1,
11580:45
individually [3] 11501:22, 11515:33,
11515:34
individuals [4] 11518:24, 11547:26,
11570:47, 11589:4
induction [2] 11567:24, 11567:27
inept [1] - 11544:33
inexperienced [1] 11522:33
inflicted [1] 11516:35
influence [1] 11503:14
inform [1] - 11570:44
information [15] 11510:39, 11512:5,
11540:30, 11541:18,
11541:21, 11553:15,
11553:20, 11565:8,
11565:37, 11565:41,
11567:5, 11567:45,
11568:8, 11569:9,
11581:17
informed [5] 11512:3, 11551:21,
11557:47, 11570:35,
11572:34
infuriates [1] 11521:21
initial [3] - 11540:25,
11557:19, 11564:23
injuries [2] 11580:24, 11580:25
insensitive [2] 11518:31, 11521:14
insensitivity [1] 11522:9
inside [1] - 11583:26
11
11580:47, 11581:3
intended [2] 11539:32, 11566:15
intense [1] - 11525:30
intention [4] 11520:19, 11520:22,
11521:25, 11522:23
intentions [1] 11531:14
intents [1] - 11538:26
interacts [1] 11564:44
interested [3] 11500:38, 11528:9,
11578:42
interests [2] 11554:44, 11590:10
internal [2] 11552:45, 11553:5
International [2] 11555:12, 11555:38
internet [1] - 11567:40
internet-based [1] 11567:40
interpretation [1] 11504:27
interrupt [4] 11525:1, 11531:27,
11586:5, 11589:18
interview [1] 11559:40
interviews [1] 11562:32
intimate [1] 11524:44
INTO [1] - 11498:12
introduced [1] 11546:16
investigated [1] 11514:36
investigation [3] 11511:26, 11514:22,
11514:30
investigations [1] 11589:10
investigative [1] 11562:34
invitation [2] 11576:40, 11584:29
invited [3] - 11576:31,
11576:32, 11576:34
involve [7] - 11511:25,
11514:22, 11546:3,
11546:4, 11563:44,
11570:43, 11582:46
involved [26] 11500:20, 11500:26,
11504:46, 11510:37,
11511:18, 11530:47,
11531:34, 11531:35,
11531:46, 11532:3,
11532:46, 11533:2,
11533:15, 11533:17,
11542:11, 11542:15,
11542:24, 11542:26,
11550:21, 11550:47,
11551:18, 11557:19,
11559:38, 11565:36,
11565:40, 11571:27
involvement [11] 11504:31, 11514:2,
11514:4, 11549:11,
11549:17, 11549:30,
11549:34, 11550:21,
11550:34, 11584:19,
11584:22
involving [2] 11562:39, 11567:6
isolation [1] 11589:39
issue [19] - 11514:39,
11515:40, 11518:43,
11520:2, 11526:32,
11526:33, 11529:15,
11539:28, 11545:13,
11545:20, 11562:45,
11562:47, 11564:2,
11566:42, 11578:21,
11578:41, 11588:23,
11588:28
issued [7] - 11558:39,
11562:28, 11564:1,
11566:3, 11569:16,
11571:10, 11578:24
issues [14] 11520:14, 11523:38,
11524:44, 11534:3,
11551:1, 11552:33,
11552:37, 11571:6,
11572:2, 11572:4,
11574:14, 11583:7,
11588:33, 11590:44
issuing [2] 11520:10, 11520:18
itself [7] - 11502:41,
11517:42, 11518:25,
11533:12, 11537:16,
11578:6, 11580:4
J
January [3] 11500:27, 11500:34,
11591:5
Jayatma [1] 11582:40
Jennifer [1] 11498:33
judging [1] - 11559:31
judgment [4] 11519:4, 11519:43,
11527:3, 11533:35
Julia [1] - 11499:10
July [1] - 11550:18
June [2] - 11508:42,
11560:18
justice [2] - 11590:8,
11590:10
Justice [1] - 11498:33
justify [1] - 11520:26
Jyoti [5] - 11521:9,
11521:39, 11521:41,
11581:16, 11592:27
JYOTI [1] - 11592:43
K
karma [1] - 11501:12
Karmayogini [1] 11505:31
Kate [2] - 11558:1,
11558:29
keep [2] - 11515:15,
11570:3
kept [2] - 11551:7,
11551:21
KERNAGHAN [39] 11508:11, 11508:15,
11515:38, 11516:42,
11517:2, 11521:37,
11522:35, 11522:46,
11523:9, 11523:25,
11525:1, 11527:37,
11528:4, 11539:22,
11544:46, 11556:13,
11556:18, 11556:45,
11560:40, 11561:5,
11561:7, 11561:9,
11564:11, 11564:16,
11573:47, 11574:5,
11574:8, 11577:1,
11577:7, 11577:35,
11578:1, 11578:19,
11579:38, 11580:28,
11581:6, 11581:21,
11582:21, 11588:27,
11591:24
Kernaghan [29] 11516:23, 11516:47,
11517:46, 11518:7,
11519:9, 11519:25,
11519:33, 11523:6,
11523:45, 11526:42,
11526:43, 11527:11,
11556:24, 11560:38,
11561:3, 11561:10,
11564:7, 11574:14,
11574:26, 11577:5,
11578:9, 11578:15,
11578:36, 11582:19,
11582:35, 11583:5,
11583:22, 11585:8,
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11588:23
Kernaghan's [1] 11560:44
kind [5] - 11505:2,
11529:46, 11550:19,
11550:30, 11583:11
kit [2] - 11544:14,
11544:38
knowing [1] 11587:25
knowledge [18] 11499:20, 11529:15,
11529:29, 11529:38,
11530:37, 11532:36,
11532:40, 11533:4,
11534:3, 11537:8,
11542:19, 11542:23,
11543:22, 11543:34,
11567:22, 11569:26,
11571:42, 11582:45
known [5] - 11505:26,
11505:27, 11519:21,
11526:22, 11552:2
knows [3] - 11524:9,
11526:26, 11588:3
L
labelled [1] - 11531:5
lady [1] - 11582:40
land [1] - 11508:28
landed [1] - 11586:36
language [1] 11546:23
large [1] - 11564:45
larger [1] - 11563:35
last [21] - 11499:38,
11500:43, 11507:44,
11510:32, 11517:6,
11526:29, 11527:37,
11535:22, 11537:1,
11544:16, 11548:45,
11552:19, 11560:2,
11568:23, 11572:3,
11572:44, 11573:11,
11576:18, 11578:24,
11587:3, 11588:21
lastly [2] - 11527:14,
11593:13
late [2] - 11527:2,
11529:24
laws [1] - 11530:35
lawyer [10] 11512:36, 11554:17,
11554:20, 11576:31,
11576:34, 11576:35,
11576:36, 11576:45,
11577:9, 11579:42
lawyers [5] - 11554:6,
11559:12, 11581:18,
11583:11, 11583:20
12
11584:42, 11593:19
Leggat [2] - 11558:36,
11558:45
legitimacy [1] 11525:42
legitimate [5] 11521:5, 11521:44,
11521:46, 11522:38,
11524:17
length [2] - 11519:10,
11529:39
lengthy [1] - 11539:42
less [2] - 11508:41,
11576:30
LETTER [1] - 11574:4
letter [43] - 11510:2,
11520:10, 11525:37,
11538:42, 11540:23,
11540:27, 11554:23,
11554:34, 11555:20,
11555:34, 11557:8,
11557:20, 11557:24,
11560:5, 11560:8,
11560:16, 11560:22,
11560:26, 11562:37,
11562:46, 11570:16,
11572:40, 11572:43,
11576:16, 11576:27,
11576:30, 11576:39,
11577:16, 11577:25,
11578:8, 11578:15,
11578:25, 11578:29,
11579:8, 11581:33,
11584:1, 11584:2,
11584:10, 11584:35,
11584:39, 11584:46,
11585:11
letters [1] - 11512:40
letting [1] - 11586:19
level [13] - 11503:11,
11505:45, 11506:6,
11508:23, 11513:44,
11525:26, 11526:35,
11530:32, 11537:7,
11553:24, 11575:3,
11587:21, 11588:3
Level [1] - 11498:21
levels [3] - 11575:42,
11575:43, 11587:45
liabilities [2] 11508:41, 11508:42
liaising [1] - 11583:5
libelous [1] 11557:46
licences [1] 11555:45
life [9] - 11500:45,
11504:19, 11504:23,
11506:26, 11511:9,
11554:7, 11561:30,
11590:4, 11590:22
life's [1] - 11546:44
lifestyle [4] 11501:13, 11502:44,
11504:41, 11506:34
lifetime [1] - 11511:42
light [2] - 11537:23,
11576:16
likely [3] - 11510:18,
11515:2, 11582:11
limit [2] - 11517:40,
11518:24
limited [2] - 11519:36,
11530:22
Limited [2] - 11555:8,
11561:42
line [8] - 11499:28,
11499:38, 11550:1,
11563:11, 11563:13,
11563:17, 11569:5,
11573:1
lines [4] - 11540:39,
11550:14, 11564:31,
11569:35
link [2] - 11518:12,
11539:33
links [2] - 11512:13,
11574:37
list [3] - 11591:42,
11592:4, 11593:4
listed [3] - 11506:43,
11513:8, 11524:35
listen [1] - 11523:15
listened [1] 11589:13
listening [1] - 11528:5
live [1] - 11500:44
lives [1] - 11590:28
living [5] - 11516:8,
11516:10, 11531:42,
11567:44, 11590:24
loans [1] - 11508:33
locally [1] - 11539:27
location [1] 11550:31
look [15] - 11507:20,
11530:9, 11530:11,
11530:12, 11530:13,
11537:16, 11538:46,
11547:26, 11549:44,
11554:32, 11562:46,
11572:3, 11582:4,
11583:1, 11586:8
looked [2] - 11529:28,
11551:2
looking [6] 11522:30, 11534:33,
11568:4, 11574:33,
11582:3, 11587:13
looks [1] - 11554:40
M
Macquarie [2] 11498:21, 11554:10
magazines [1] 11512:17
magnitude [1] 11580:2
main [6] - 11500:16,
11503:2, 11532:31,
11583:17, 11586:5,
11586:6
maintainable [1] 11577:31
maintains [1] 11567:18
majority [2] 11507:45, 11508:28
Makris [2] - 11592:12,
11593:8
MAKRIS [1] 11592:21
maligned [1] 11590:21
man [2] - 11538:26,
11538:42
manage [1] - 11584:27
management [29] 11500:17, 11502:20,
11503:21, 11505:5,
11505:8, 11505:14,
11506:5, 11514:2,
11514:5, 11522:32,
11529:8, 11531:1,
11532:39, 11538:45,
11538:46, 11541:37,
11544:30, 11547:40,
11548:26, 11548:29,
11549:12, 11549:17,
11563:19, 11563:42,
11582:29, 11582:37,
11583:29, 11584:13,
11584:28
managerial [1] 11529:10
managing [1] 11505:3
Mangrove [24] 11500:15, 11500:22,
11501:35, 11501:46,
11502:30, 11502:40,
11502:42, 11505:29,
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11505:30, 11505:32,
11509:4, 11509:31,
11511:3, 11511:13,
11513:26, 11513:35,
11514:7, 11549:24,
11555:8, 11562:4,
11562:14, 11570:6,
11589:12, 11589:30
Mangrove's [1] 11569:33
Manly [1] - 11509:4
manner [1] - 11537:12
Manning [11] 11525:22, 11548:44,
11552:12, 11552:15,
11552:28, 11552:37,
11554:24, 11554:34,
11560:8, 11560:21,
11584:3
Manning's [2] 11560:11, 11584:46
mantras [2] - 11546:6,
11546:8
March [6] - 11551:12,
11557:41, 11569:45,
11591:18, 11593:28
MARCH [1] - 11593:35
Maree [1] - 11592:13
MAREE [1] - 11592:22
mark [1] - 11592:38
marked [1] - 11592:16
marketplace [2] 11578:10, 11581:39
married [1] - 11529:36
Mary [5] - 11505:26,
11528:34, 11529:6,
11583:35, 11592:10
MARY [1] - 11592:19
material [4] 11512:21, 11512:32,
11536:18, 11575:39
materials [2] 11512:24, 11536:34
Math [2] - 11555:12,
11555:31
matrix [2] - 11563:19,
11563:42
matter [27] - 11509:40,
11509:44, 11510:41,
11510:43, 11517:4,
11518:13, 11526:3,
11532:22, 11540:44,
11545:25, 11550:19,
11550:23, 11550:24,
11556:21, 11557:1,
11557:5, 11562:39,
11580:5, 11580:6,
11580:22, 11580:26,
11584:15, 11586:8,
11586:43, 11588:1,
11590:7, 11590:18
matters [12] - 11506:3,
11506:13, 11509:47,
11510:37, 11516:26,
11529:12, 11540:41,
11540:43, 11580:31,
11582:23, 11583:3,
11583:9
May-June [1] 11560:18
McGlinchey [7] 11517:5, 11517:44,
11518:4, 11518:6,
11518:12, 11527:33,
11527:35
McKenzie [2] 11548:35, 11548:37
mean [23] - 11500:40,
11503:25, 11507:40,
11508:2, 11510:11,
11520:19, 11522:46,
11528:1, 11530:10,
11532:40, 11540:25,
11540:38, 11541:30,
11545:43, 11551:33,
11556:16, 11556:29,
11559:40, 11566:26,
11571:11, 11575:25,
11576:9, 11586:42
meaning [5] 11508:20, 11522:32,
11524:16, 11549:36,
11550:43
meaningful [1] 11573:33
meaningless [1] 11547:4
means [6] - 11501:9,
11502:24, 11504:33,
11529:30, 11539:23,
11559:9
meant [1] - 11544:6
media [1] - 11522:15
meditation [1] 11502:45
medium [1] 11568:40
meet [3] - 11505:38,
11505:39, 11505:41
meeting [3] 11507:14, 11537:6,
11566:42
meetings [5] 11536:27, 11536:35,
11536:39, 11544:22,
11568:6
member [8] 11500:17, 11515:2,
11532:27, 11541:36,
11558:32, 11575:20,
13
11583:38, 11587:27
Member [1] 11498:33
MEMBER [72] 11499:1, 11500:10,
11516:3, 11516:46,
11518:3, 11518:9,
11518:19, 11521:41,
11523:5, 11523:15,
11524:13, 11525:12,
11527:28, 11527:33,
11527:39, 11535:34,
11535:39, 11535:44,
11539:30, 11545:13,
11547:34, 11548:35,
11548:39, 11556:23,
11556:28, 11556:34,
11556:42, 11557:5,
11560:38, 11560:43,
11561:3, 11564:7,
11564:14, 11574:2,
11574:11, 11576:20,
11577:4, 11577:11,
11577:43, 11578:8,
11578:17, 11578:45,
11579:4, 11579:46,
11580:12, 11581:8,
11581:27, 11581:38,
11581:46, 11582:10,
11582:17, 11582:23,
11587:9, 11587:36,
11588:8, 11588:13,
11588:23, 11588:31,
11588:40, 11591:21,
11591:26, 11591:33,
11591:46, 11592:7,
11592:16, 11592:32,
11592:38, 11592:45,
11593:11, 11593:17,
11593:23, 11593:27
members [9] 11505:22, 11505:35,
11517:13, 11526:14,
11562:33, 11565:7,
11566:19, 11582:37,
11584:13
memorandum [1] 11503:46
memory [3] 11552:34, 11552:36,
11557:28
mental [1] - 11522:13
mention [1] 11552:16
mentioned [3] 11538:30, 11556:40,
11587:12
mentions [1] 11522:26
messages [1] -
11544:23
met [2] - 11519:18,
11544:19
Michael [1] - 11548:43
Michele [1] - 11592:13
MICHELE [1] 11592:22
mid [2] - 11535:39,
11536:1
mid-morning [2] 11535:39, 11536:1
middle [1] - 11514:15
might [32] - 11501:30,
11505:1, 11505:7,
11505:45, 11507:34,
11526:2, 11528:39,
11529:16, 11529:42,
11529:45, 11529:47,
11532:18, 11537:21,
11537:38, 11538:6,
11542:29, 11544:33,
11545:36, 11547:3,
11553:43, 11556:21,
11561:30, 11567:16,
11567:23, 11570:34,
11573:25, 11574:22,
11576:6, 11579:9,
11585:35, 11586:21,
11588:34
million [4] - 11507:45,
11508:38, 11508:43,
11573:12
Milroy [2] - 11498:34,
11572:34
MILROY [1] 11587:11
mind [2] - 11532:24,
11540:26
minds [1] - 11534:31
minors [1] - 11516:11
minute [2] - 11503:25,
11575:20
minuted [3] 11536:35, 11537:10,
11537:13
minutes [6] - 11523:3,
11523:26, 11536:27,
11536:36, 11536:39,
11560:41
misapprehension [1]
- 11590:7
misses [2] - 11579:39,
11579:40
mission [2] 11511:11, 11590:3
mistake [3] 11540:33, 11555:36,
11556:3
mistakes [10] 11519:4, 11519:46,
11523:17, 11556:5,
11559:44, 11585:9,
11585:11, 11585:16,
11585:29, 11585:31
mistreatment [1] 11519:26
misunderstood [1] 11539:38
misused [1] 11590:21
mixture [1] - 11502:11
Mm-hmm" [1] 11523:32
mmm-hmm [1] 11579:34
modalities [1] 11502:10
moderation [1] 11579:17
modern [1] - 11570:35
modified [1] 11570:12
moment [11] 11523:16, 11526:27,
11565:3, 11572:32,
11573:23, 11585:33,
11586:13, 11586:24,
11586:39, 11587:29,
11587:34
monetary [2] 11573:39, 11579:24
money [4] - 11505:1,
11507:40, 11508:3,
11508:32
monies [1] - 11508:26
monitor [1] - 11512:37
monitoring [1] 11516:16
month [1] - 11552:19
months [4] 11526:29, 11563:39,
11572:3, 11585:17
morning [6] - 11499:1,
11535:39, 11536:1,
11538:13, 11549:1,
11584:12
most [7] - 11501:35,
11502:4, 11502:6,
11515:2, 11519:29,
11540:43, 11562:10
mostly [1] - 11505:39
Mountain [7] 11502:41, 11505:29,
11511:13, 11555:8,
11562:4, 11589:12,
11589:30
move [2] - 11514:13,
11551:23
Movement [2] 11555:13, 11555:38
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N
name [23] - 11499:9,
11501:3, 11502:41,
11504:6, 11504:9,
11510:16, 11512:29,
11513:32, 11513:40,
11531:37, 11538:23,
11538:30, 11543:28,
11547:36, 11548:43,
11555:46, 11561:10,
11563:6, 11575:12,
11575:14, 11575:18,
11575:27, 11575:37
name's [2] - 11528:7,
11588:44
named [2] - 11539:7,
11572:47
names [14] 11505:36, 11511:29,
11512:37, 11514:25,
11518:17, 11531:5,
11532:42, 11532:46,
11533:1, 11557:42,
11591:42, 11592:4,
11593:4, 11593:14
naturally [1] 11546:27
nature [8] - 11505:44,
11515:3, 11519:36,
11540:23, 11561:12,
11577:8, 11583:45,
11589:38
near [1] - 11547:8
necessarily [8] 11508:29, 11508:31,
11508:44, 11519:37,
11530:46, 11540:14,
11551:20, 11576:10
necessary [1] 11554:6
need [7] - 11499:21,
11515:14, 11535:17,
11557:28, 11573:5,
11583:3, 11584:25
14
O
O'Brien [22] 11527:39, 11528:4,
11528:7, 11535:35,
11535:44, 11539:22,
11539:24, 11539:34,
11545:14, 11572:25,
11572:44, 11573:9,
11577:36, 11577:44,
11578:3, 11578:11,
11578:20, 11578:29,
11579:47, 11581:8,
11581:27, 11583:7
O'BRIEN [32] 11527:41, 11527:43,
11527:45, 11528:7,
11535:37, 11535:46,
11539:36, 11539:41,
11545:7, 11545:22,
11547:32, 11574:5,
11576:14, 11576:22,
11576:24, 11576:26,
11577:16, 11577:41,
11578:5, 11578:14,
11578:35, 11578:47,
11579:6, 11580:2,
11580:19, 11580:31,
11581:13, 11581:25,
11581:32, 11581:42,
11582:1, 11582:15
O'Brien's [1] 11572:1
o'clock [3] - 11573:16,
11580:40, 11581:1
O'Connell [2] 11552:40, 11593:8
obey [1] - 11561:25
object [12] - 11516:42,
11525:1, 11539:22,
11539:24, 11544:46,
11556:13, 11577:1,
11579:38, 11580:28,
11581:6, 11581:21,
11589:19
objection [4] 11556:18, 11556:28,
11556:46, 11578:9
objections [1] 11556:46
objects [4] - 11504:21,
11506:15, 11506:20,
11506:23
objects" [1] 11506:19
obligations [1] 11593:2
observation [1] 11586:32
observations [1] 11585:26
observed [2] 11563:10, 11581:22
obtained [1] 11557:33
obviously [11] 11502:6, 11520:21,
11532:29, 11534:13,
11535:21, 11540:33,
11546:35, 11565:21,
11572:7, 11578:42,
11593:17
occasion [3] 11549:40, 11550:10,
11561:36
occur [2] - 11517:30,
11556:5
occurred [12] 11507:15, 11510:27,
11510:29, 11515:18,
11516:40, 11517:29,
11518:27, 11518:39,
11521:15, 11534:42,
11540:26, 11589:5
occurring [1] 11511:40
occurs [2] - 11550:31,
11553:44
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11512:2, 11512:5,
11549:2, 11549:14,
11549:37, 11550:26,
11562:24, 11574:19
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11592:42
offended [1] 11524:39
offending [1] 11529:34
offer [6] - 11547:23,
11569:38, 11573:15,
11575:26, 11577:17,
11581:4
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11524:29
offering [1] - 11546:7
offers [1] - 11547:29
officer [1] - 11505:32
official [3] - 11512:15,
11550:45, 11574:38
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11519:4, 11559:13,
11559:14, 11561:42,
11564:44
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11514:23, 11514:30,
11546:8
older [1] - 11501:37
Omdhyanam [1] 11505:30
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11532:33, 11550:7,
11552:1, 11558:36,
11574:18
Once [1] - 11555:30
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11503:36, 11505:8,
11509:4, 11509:28,
11510:38, 11510:40,
11511:3, 11511:38,
11515:3, 11516:8,
11526:1, 11526:6,
11528:18, 11532:11,
11532:30, 11533:21,
11536:19, 11536:34,
11536:43, 11536:44,
11537:11, 11538:44,
11539:6, 11539:10,
11546:34, 11546:40,
11547:3, 11547:15,
11549:14, 11549:40,
11550:31, 11551:3,
11552:29, 11552:36,
11554:13, 11555:39,
11555:41, 11555:42,
.10/12/2014 (110)
11556:3, 11557:13,
11557:16, 11557:25,
11561:18, 11561:25,
11561:41, 11566:28,
11568:35, 11574:13,
11574:27, 11575:19,
11575:43, 11581:8,
11581:27, 11582:37,
11583:17, 11584:18,
11585:2, 11585:11,
11586:5, 11586:6,
11586:14, 11586:47,
11587:2, 11587:3,
11587:11, 11587:30,
11591:39, 11591:43
ones [2] - 11501:38,
11587:47
ongoing [5] 11516:16, 11518:42,
11535:26, 11570:40,
11590:13
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11573:16
opened [1] - 11578:21
opening [3] 11563:10, 11563:11,
11583:23
operate [1] - 11575:43
operates [1] 11575:42
operating [1] 11540:29
operation [3] 11505:3, 11530:9,
11562:18
operations [6] 11503:13, 11503:29,
11503:30, 11503:31,
11550:22, 11550:35
opinion [2] 11532:22, 11545:18
opportunity [8] 11500:44, 11525:18,
11541:7, 11559:40,
11571:44, 11577:11,
11580:13, 11591:16
opposed [1] 11583:39
oral [3] - 11591:16,
11591:39, 11593:28
orally [2] - 11507:8,
11507:20
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11573:11
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11591:2, 11593:15,
11593:18
ordination [6] 11505:7, 11505:11,
11507:5, 11507:12,
11534:32, 11582:30
organisation [77] 11502:26, 11503:20,
11507:37, 11508:6,
11510:45, 11518:27,
11518:30, 11518:45,
11526:7, 11527:17,
11528:1, 11528:17,
11528:23, 11528:28,
11528:43, 11529:33,
11533:7, 11533:19,
11534:33, 11536:12,
11536:35, 11537:5,
11537:15, 11537:27,
11537:31, 11538:20,
11538:43, 11539:18,
11539:33, 11540:4,
11540:11, 11542:8,
11542:12, 11543:24,
11543:28, 11544:7,
11544:44, 11546:19,
11547:12, 11547:24,
11548:5, 11548:8,
11549:29, 11550:22,
11550:36, 11551:19,
11553:16, 11554:45,
11555:6, 11555:23,
11555:27, 11556:6,
11556:16, 11557:34,
11559:18, 11559:25,
11560:21, 11560:25,
11561:10, 11561:40,
11561:46, 11562:3,
11562:9, 11562:40,
11564:8, 11571:11,
11572:2, 11572:14,
11575:13, 11580:39,
11582:25, 11583:2,
11585:38, 11587:15,
11587:18, 11587:27,
11590:16
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11537:39, 11559:22
organisational [5] 11509:14, 11517:14,
11528:10, 11548:7,
11565:23
organisations [4] 11502:22, 11507:24,
11513:39, 11559:14
original [4] 11518:38, 11518:44,
11565:2, 11592:32
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15
11581:36
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outset [1] - 11589:8
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11551:35, 11576:46
outstanding [2] 11591:37, 11593:3
outweighed [1] 11508:42
overarching [3] 11502:26, 11503:11,
11575:12
overhead [1] 11573:7
overriding [3] 11527:17, 11584:40,
11585:33
overseas [3] 11509:25, 11537:1,
11540:26
oversee [1] - 11536:19
overseen [1] 11536:17
overview [1] 11502:21
owe [1] - 11508:33
owed [1] - 11508:26
own [14] - 11499:25,
11509:8, 11509:9,
11511:28, 11514:25,
11533:4, 11533:25,
11537:39, 11545:3,
11547:27, 11561:29,
11570:13, 11592:36
owned [3] - 11503:7,
11509:11, 11509:29
ownership [1] 11502:27
owns [4] - 11502:30,
11508:47, 11509:28,
11509:31
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11521:29, 11524:28,
11524:35, 11548:20
page [20] - 11504:2,
11506:19, 11507:35,
11507:43, 11508:11,
11508:13, 11508:37,
11516:31, 11521:19,
11554:38, 11554:42,
11555:3, 11557:39,
11557:44, 11558:3,
11558:33, 11560:2,
11570:2, 11570:3
paid [1] - 11559:3
11505:41, 11507:37,
11518:36, 11519:26,
11528:14, 11529:32,
11530:40, 11530:44,
11531:22, 11534:20,
11537:36, 11538:27,
11542:30, 11546:19,
11557:1, 11561:41,
11563:17, 11576:15
particularise [1] 11577:18
particularly [5] 11514:44, 11530:19,
11533:6, 11533:33,
11587:26
parties [2] - 11512:6,
11593:14
partly [1] - 11587:12
parts [2] - 11507:32,
11523:41
party [2] - 11558:7,
11558:29
pass [1] - 11525:7
passed [1] - 11558:6
past [10] - 11515:11,
11515:18, 11529:2,
11529:25, 11537:17,
11585:9, 11585:12,
11585:17, 11585:29,
11586:9
path [1] - 11545:27
pathetic [2] 11519:42, 11527:1
patron [7] - 11504:17,
11504:18, 11504:22,
11504:23, 11504:25,
11504:28, 11548:8
patronising [1] 11521:29
pay [1] - 11583:13
PDF [1] - 11508:13
people [79] 11501:35, 11502:46,
11505:7, 11510:36,
11511:17, 11513:25,
11515:7, 11517:14,
11517:35, 11517:42,
11518:26, 11520:6,
11522:27, 11526:7,
11526:17, 11526:19,
11526:21, 11527:6,
11528:8, 11528:21,
11529:45, 11530:9,
11530:11, 11530:12,
11531:31, 11532:11,
11532:13, 11532:31,
11533:2, 11533:39,
11534:4, 11535:23,
11536:20, 11537:21,
11537:24, 11537:26,
.10/12/2014 (110)
11537:32, 11541:43,
11546:6, 11546:42,
11547:7, 11550:6,
11551:31, 11551:32,
11551:33, 11551:35,
11551:36, 11553:6,
11553:10, 11553:28,
11556:11, 11557:13,
11557:16, 11566:27,
11566:31, 11567:28,
11567:31, 11567:34,
11570:20, 11570:40,
11571:22, 11571:30,
11571:33, 11573:34,
11576:27, 11577:23,
11582:6, 11583:4,
11583:19, 11583:22,
11583:33, 11584:26,
11584:29, 11584:45,
11585:3, 11587:5,
11587:24, 11593:3
people's [1] 11567:21
perceived [3] 11514:6, 11549:22,
11549:28
perception [1] 11566:35
perfect [1] - 11520:21
performed [1] 11546:15
perhaps [21] 11499:40, 11503:43,
11504:33, 11508:11,
11508:19, 11515:39,
11521:38, 11522:43,
11528:4, 11528:27,
11529:1, 11541:33,
11548:9, 11549:38,
11559:13, 11586:47,
11587:27, 11588:34,
11588:40, 11592:5,
11593:3
period [5] - 11532:25,
11533:26, 11541:37,
11552:12, 11567:34
permission [1] 11512:20
permitted [2] 11512:29, 11575:36
perpetrated [2] 11589:30, 11590:25
perpetrator [1] 11590:10
persevere [1] 11580:20
person [19] 11501:27, 11503:36,
11515:33, 11516:15,
11528:18, 11528:34,
11529:4, 11543:25,
11544:1, 11544:13,
11545:11, 11551:18,
11551:47, 11552:7,
11560:20, 11562:39,
11568:12, 11584:18,
11584:43
person's [2] 11529:32, 11582:42
personal [9] 11501:28, 11524:44,
11529:42, 11533:25,
11538:41, 11538:47,
11541:18, 11556:40,
11570:13
personally [6] 11518:29, 11524:39,
11536:47, 11541:46,
11557:23, 11558:19
persons [6] 11562:32, 11569:8,
11572:47, 11573:4,
11573:9, 11593:11
perspective [3] 11511:36, 11514:33,
11517:20
Peter [3] - 11592:9,
11592:27, 11593:6
PETER [1] - 11592:42
phase [1] - 11541:41
Phil [3] - 11592:9,
11592:10, 11593:6
PHIL [1] - 11592:19
philosophical [1] 11501:13
philosophies [1] 11548:28
phone [3] - 11544:19,
11544:22, 11553:11
photos [1] - 11512:23
phrased [1] 11586:35
physical [4] - 11508:9,
11547:20, 11579:28,
11590:25
picked [1] - 11515:33
picking [1] - 11544:19
pictures [1] 11512:33
piece [1] - 11548:47
Place [1] - 11498:22
place [12] - 11501:47,
11502:1, 11507:17,
11514:44, 11515:26,
11515:35, 11531:33,
11534:46, 11535:17,
11536:2, 11541:3,
11587:19
placed [8] - 11529:17,
11531:38, 11531:45,
16
11543:12, 11567:16,
11569:3, 11573:7,
11592:1
plan [1] - 11515:21
plans [1] - 11515:12
plant [1] - 11508:27
plural [1] - 11556:29
plus [1] - 11582:37
poet [1] - 11529:30
point [25] - 11517:16,
11534:28, 11536:40,
11538:45, 11538:47,
11540:24, 11540:31,
11545:1, 11548:7,
11549:7, 11550:26,
11557:3, 11562:44,
11562:46, 11563:5,
11566:12, 11566:25,
11566:28, 11566:30,
11569:41, 11575:17,
11575:34, 11579:39,
11579:40
points [3] - 11510:47,
11565:14, 11565:15
policies [26] 11514:43, 11515:26,
11515:47, 11516:4,
11516:6, 11516:7,
11516:17, 11525:47,
11526:10, 11534:34,
11534:35, 11534:45,
11535:12, 11535:17,
11535:23, 11535:28,
11536:2, 11543:11,
11543:26, 11543:31,
11567:17, 11567:37,
11587:14, 11587:16,
11587:23, 11587:28
policy [4] - 11505:46,
11506:4, 11531:1,
11588:5
policy-type [1] 11505:46
poor [7] - 11532:27,
11532:30, 11533:34,
11533:36, 11550:41,
11552:1, 11555:30
population [3] 11515:13, 11515:45,
11526:26
portions [1] - 11523:1
posit [1] - 11590:37
posited [1] - 11515:42
position [26] 11500:14, 11503:18,
11507:23, 11507:34,
11507:36, 11507:39,
11508:2, 11523:47,
11524:3, 11524:5,
11524:9, 11524:19,
11527:23, 11530:7,
11530:18, 11530:34,
11542:3, 11542:20,
11544:28, 11544:33,
11545:11, 11545:36,
11547:1, 11550:45,
11570:12, 11573:23
positions [3] 11547:43, 11569:29,
11587:47
positive [1] - 11575:17
possible [3] 11542:5, 11551:45,
11579:17
possibly [3] 11520:47, 11525:16,
11586:29
post [2] - 11537:5,
11553:17
posted [3] - 11534:24,
11537:5, 11553:10
posting [1] - 11553:6
postings [2] 11553:9, 11568:32
posts [5] - 11520:7,
11524:40, 11557:46,
11571:36, 11572:17
potential [1] 11593:28
potentially [1] 11566:37
power [1] - 11503:37
practical [2] 11504:28, 11509:20
practice [5] 11501:35, 11503:20,
11503:26, 11515:45,
11561:21
practices [5] 11516:4, 11530:14,
11534:45, 11535:12,
11536:2
practises [1] 11562:18
pray [2] - 11546:43
preceded [1] 11516:43
preface [1] - 11515:40
prejudice [1] 11580:7
premises [1] 11562:17
preparation [1] 11572:27
prepared [1] 11511:38
preparedness [1] 11572:27
present [1] - 11517:36
presentation [2] -
11565:36, 11565:41
presented [1] 11589:33
President [1] 11505:30
president [1] 11505:31
Presiding [1] 11498:33
PRESIDING [72] 11499:1, 11500:10,
11516:3, 11516:46,
11518:3, 11518:9,
11518:19, 11521:41,
11523:5, 11523:15,
11524:13, 11525:12,
11527:28, 11527:33,
11527:39, 11535:34,
11535:39, 11535:44,
11539:30, 11545:13,
11547:34, 11548:35,
11548:39, 11556:23,
11556:28, 11556:34,
11556:42, 11557:5,
11560:38, 11560:43,
11561:3, 11564:7,
11564:14, 11574:2,
11574:11, 11576:20,
11577:4, 11577:11,
11577:43, 11578:8,
11578:17, 11578:45,
11579:4, 11579:46,
11580:12, 11581:8,
11581:27, 11581:38,
11581:46, 11582:10,
11582:17, 11582:23,
11587:9, 11587:36,
11588:8, 11588:13,
11588:23, 11588:31,
11588:40, 11591:21,
11591:26, 11591:33,
11591:46, 11592:7,
11592:16, 11592:32,
11592:38, 11592:45,
11593:11, 11593:17,
11593:23, 11593:27
press [2] - 11568:16,
11581:25
pressure [2] 11584:45, 11586:42
pretty [2] - 11546:22,
11584:11
preventing [1] 11532:34
previous [2] 11557:41, 11558:19
previously [3] 11519:20, 11519:21,
11584:20
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.10/12/2014 (110)
11520:32, 11590:38
produce [2] 11565:45, 11578:15
produced [3] 11536:23, 11536:26,
11536:34
production [2] 11536:17, 11536:18
products [1] - 11502:5
professes [1] 11529:14
Professional [1] 11502:32
professional [3] 11502:9, 11554:7,
11561:30
professionally [1] 11500:26
Professor [1] 11498:34
profit [1] - 11507:46
profound [1] 11516:35
programs [2] 11575:13, 11575:16
progress [1] - 11583:3
projecting [1] 11556:10
projects [1] - 11505:1
promising [1] 11547:18
promote [1] 11512:20
promoting [1] 11506:33
pronunciation [3] 11550:41, 11552:2,
11555:31
properly [1] 11586:20
properties [9] 11499:24, 11499:25,
11508:47, 11509:3,
11509:5, 11509:9,
11509:10, 11509:28,
11509:29
property [5] 11502:30, 11502:43,
11503:9, 11508:27,
11509:31
proportions [1] 11580:10
propose [1] - 11500:7
prosecution [1] 11532:47
prospects [1] 11571:17
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protecting [1] 11537:39
17
11580:3, 11580:35,
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11544:28, 11545:2,
11545:8, 11577:17,
11577:38
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qualifications [8] 11533:47, 11542:5,
11542:29, 11542:34,
11542:38, 11542:47,
11543:20, 11566:7
qualified [2] 11542:2, 11553:1
quality [2] - 11506:26,
11590:29
quantify [1] 11579:16
questioned [1] 11552:31
questions [33] 11517:20, 11526:2,
11527:26, 11527:31,
11527:35, 11528:20,
11528:39, 11529:10,
11535:31, 11541:1,
11543:10, 11545:2,
11547:32, 11548:45,
11549:6, 11559:21,
11560:45, 11561:12,
11561:39, 11566:7,
11566:35, 11566:38,
11567:17, 11567:21,
11568:20, 11572:1,
11576:12, 11579:2,
11580:13, 11580:16,
11584:6, 11585:6,
11588:9
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11586:17
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11586:18
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quite [21] - 11525:16,
11526:26, 11530:46,
11532:30, 11539:42,
11541:32, 11544:23,
11545:19, 11545:22,
11546:45, 11559:24,
11560:8, 11562:40,
11563:1, 11563:37,
11574:42, 11576:41,
11584:17, 11585:2,
11586:12, 11586:16
quote [3] - 11514:29,
11526:43, 11578:1
quoted [1] - 11563:25
quoting [1] - 11577:43
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raise [2] - 11526:32,
11591:47
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11529:24, 11537:6,
11537:12, 11545:20,
11550:26, 11550:29,
11563:14, 11574:14,
11574:26, 11580:6,
11583:7, 11583:9,
11588:23
raising [1] - 11552:37
rang [1] - 11584:25
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11503:34, 11514:10,
11531:29, 11535:15,
11540:41, 11541:12,
11548:28, 11559:3,
11573:32
Ratnashakti [3] 11550:40, 11550:44,
11551:15
re [5] - 11544:43,
11545:30, 11545:37,
11560:46, 11576:15
RE [2] - 11574:16,
11576:24
re-examination [1] 11560:46
RE-EXAMINATION [2]
- 11574:16,
11576:24
re-examine [1] 11576:15
re-traumatised [3] 11544:43, 11545:30,
11545:37
reaction [1] 11540:25
reactions [1] 11586:16
read [26] - 11499:16,
11504:3, 11504:14,
11506:20, 11510:33,
11511:7, 11512:46,
11514:14, 11514:15,
11516:24, 11517:14,
11520:34, 11520:36,
11521:39, 11522:41,
11523:11, 11524:15,
11528:34, 11541:12,
11545:24, 11546:18,
11555:4, 11568:22,
11572:22, 11588:38,
11591:43
reading [2] - 11523:1,
11523:31
real [3] - 11509:21,
11519:34, 11541:35
.10/12/2014 (110)
18
11514:34, 11528:47,
11529:47, 11536:28,
11536:36, 11536:39,
11539:27, 11539:28,
11540:30, 11550:10,
11551:47, 11562:45,
11562:47
refers [8] - 11508:37,
11519:46, 11522:11,
11522:13, 11524:23,
11524:27, 11524:44,
11569:33
reflect [7] - 11508:39,
11508:44, 11537:36,
11559:41, 11579:17,
11585:39, 11585:46
reflected [3] 11519:10, 11519:25,
11577:25
reflecting [1] 11586:32
reflection [3] 11508:30, 11586:23,
11586:38
reflects [1] - 11517:3
reframe [1] - 11518:16
refresh [1] - 11557:28
regard [5] - 11512:46,
11517:26, 11526:17,
11542:42, 11573:28
regarded [1] 11529:30
regarding [2] 11587:26, 11589:3
regardless [1] 11518:28
regards [1] - 11573:23
registered [3] 11503:19, 11587:15,
11587:18
regular [2] - 11514:1,
11549:11
regulations [2] 11530:36, 11534:37
related [3] - 11516:26,
11517:9, 11562:47
relates [1] - 11587:36
relating [1] - 11515:24
relation [23] 11501:43, 11504:10,
11511:5, 11516:25,
11522:3, 11523:37,
11523:38, 11525:2,
11525:5, 11525:14,
11528:16, 11545:25,
11545:43, 11549:30,
11550:19, 11550:24,
11551:1, 11560:21,
11561:12, 11561:28,
11572:25, 11590:45,
11591:2
relationship [5] 11501:28, 11541:22,
11561:13, 11561:29,
11561:31
relatively [1] 11532:39
released [2] - 11567:7,
11568:8
releases [1] 11568:16
relevant [7] - 11503:2,
11534:35, 11563:13,
11578:30, 11579:41,
11583:3, 11583:15
religion [1] - 11546:42
reliving [1] - 11525:31
relying [1] - 11584:42
remain [2] - 11527:23,
11593:15
remained [1] 11589:21
remains [1] 11573:16
remember [22] 11505:36, 11542:25,
11542:31, 11542:33,
11542:35, 11542:43,
11543:2, 11544:41,
11545:33, 11546:24,
11546:25, 11547:14,
11549:2, 11550:11,
11550:13, 11551:41,
11551:45, 11552:22,
11552:29, 11553:21,
11553:25, 11566:38
remind [1] - 11546:20
reminder [1] 11593:13
removal [2] 11550:27, 11576:3
remove [1] - 11575:44
removed [10] 11499:26, 11499:34,
11499:46, 11510:42,
11512:14, 11512:34,
11522:15, 11545:4,
11574:38, 11576:1
removing [3] 11499:36, 11499:42,
11500:1
renounce [1] 11512:10
renounced [1] 11574:36
rents [3] - 11502:43,
11503:9, 11562:17
repeat [2] - 11528:9,
11550:34
repeatedly [1] -
11517:5
repeating [1] 11523:33
repercussion [2] 11513:23, 11513:24
repetitiously [1] 11521:33
reply [3] - 11549:38,
11591:7, 11591:11
report [2] - 11529:7,
11589:28
reported [3] - 11515:4,
11557:47, 11588:2
reportedly [1] 11558:10
reporting [1] 11587:26
reports [1] - 11519:11
represent [6] 11547:36, 11561:10,
11576:26, 11577:35,
11588:42, 11588:44
representation [2] 11554:15, 11582:25
representative [1] 11519:9
represented [1] 11519:29
representing [1] 11583:20
represents [2] 11514:35, 11554:44
reprimand [1] 11539:10
reprimanding [1] 11539:3
reputation [2] 11511:27, 11514:24
request [4] 11573:10, 11573:24,
11578:35, 11589:1
requests [1] 11573:24
required [6] 11503:19, 11569:21,
11573:15, 11588:34,
11591:18, 11591:38
requiring [1] 11573:22
research [4] 11506:40, 11506:44,
11510:44, 11530:22
resident [3] 11500:29, 11505:30,
11505:31
residential [1] 11500:24
residents [9] 11501:37, 11501:39,
11515:14, 11526:27,
.10/12/2014 (110)
11526:29, 11553:1,
11567:32, 11568:2,
11587:24
resolve [1] - 11573:33
resolved [2] 11588:29, 11590:8
resource [2] 11534:2, 11541:35
resources [3] 11506:31, 11506:44,
11543:17
respect [12] 11511:18, 11521:41,
11523:12, 11527:7,
11530:33, 11556:28,
11581:9, 11583:9,
11583:28, 11589:22,
11593:30
respectful [1] 11545:5
respects [1] - 11530:6
respond [11] 11518:35, 11534:33,
11538:45, 11541:39,
11543:12, 11566:13,
11573:15, 11578:35,
11580:39, 11580:43,
11586:17
responded [9] 11510:24, 11514:40,
11518:45, 11540:31,
11540:43, 11550:12,
11562:27, 11585:19,
11587:6
responding [3] 11540:42, 11541:41,
11584:23
response [36] 11511:31, 11518:31,
11521:27, 11523:5,
11523:10, 11523:13,
11523:18, 11523:23,
11524:10, 11524:18,
11525:36, 11540:18,
11540:20, 11540:21,
11540:37, 11541:2,
11544:19, 11545:11,
11547:12, 11559:22,
11560:6, 11562:38,
11564:1, 11565:2,
11570:10, 11570:11,
11570:30, 11573:22,
11578:31, 11579:42,
11582:8, 11583:2,
11584:27, 11586:28,
11586:37
Response [2] 11582:47, 11586:7
RESPONSES [1] 11498:13
19
11583:35
Rishis [2] - 11529:35,
11531:4
risk [1] - 11529:34
ritual [1] - 11547:3
robust [1] - 11530:46
Rocklyn [8] - 11503:7,
11503:13, 11505:25,
11509:3, 11513:26,
11555:14, 11555:15,
11584:19
role [12] - 11500:16,
11503:26, 11504:25,
11504:28, 11529:32,
11536:7, 11538:43,
11538:44, 11547:39,
11548:4, 11548:6,
11582:42
room [2] - 11572:22,
11588:16
round [2] - 11503:34,
11563:3
Royal [52] - 11509:40,
11510:39, 11512:45,
11514:29, 11514:34,
11534:31, 11536:16,
11540:31, 11540:42,
11546:35, 11549:31,
11549:37, 11551:2,
11553:10, 11553:27,
11556:18, 11559:39,
11562:28, 11562:33,
11562:38, 11562:41,
11562:45, 11563:2,
11563:26, 11563:30,
11564:24, 11564:42,
11565:3, 11565:33,
11565:37, 11565:41,
11568:1, 11568:3,
11568:17, 11568:43,
11569:9, 11569:18,
11569:34, 11570:16,
11571:21, 11578:22,
11582:35, 11584:7,
11585:18, 11585:26,
11588:47, 11590:33,
11591:3, 11591:4,
11591:8, 11591:12,
11593:1
ROYAL [1] - 11498:12
RTO [1] - 11535:15
Rules [1] - 11499:34
run [5] - 11502:33,
11503:1, 11504:47,
11529:2, 11563:19
running [10] 11503:34, 11504:30,
11504:46, 11542:12,
11550:35, 11550:38,
11551:19, 11551:20,
11563:31, 11575:11
runs [2] - 11502:43,
11562:14
S
saddened [1] 11589:46
sadness [1] 11590:19
safety [1] - 11590:39
sage [2] - 11529:31,
11529:33
saint [3] - 11529:31,
11529:33, 11529:35
SALZER [1] 11592:21
Salzer [2] - 11592:12,
11593:9
Samhita [1] 11504:42
sanctity [1] - 11590:39
Sannyas [1] 11555:11
Sannyasin [1] 11509:18
Sarah [2] - 11499:3,
11499:10
SARAH [2] - 11499:5,
11500:12
SARASWATI [1] 11592:20
Saraswati [9] 11504:16, 11505:24,
11528:9, 11536:46,
11537:37, 11555:16,
11555:17, 11592:11,
11593:7
Saraswati's [2] 11547:19, 11582:7
sat [2] - 11568:43,
11586:34
SAT [2] - 11509:18,
11509:31
satisfy [1] - 11509:45
Satyananda [48] 11500:39, 11501:2,
11501:3, 11501:7,
11501:9, 11501:38,
11501:45, 11501:47,
11502:4, 11502:7,
11502:25, 11504:6,
11504:9, 11504:17,
11506:28, 11506:46,
11509:11, 11509:17,
11509:19, 11509:20,
11511:10, 11511:13,
11512:30, 11512:38,
11513:27, 11513:32,
11513:40, 11530:3,
11538:23, 11538:30,
11554:45, 11555:6,
11555:9, 11555:10,
11555:15, 11555:17,
11555:46, 11558:31,
11561:21, 11561:41,
11574:47, 11575:12,
11575:14, 11575:18,
11575:37, 11584:47
Save [1] - 11532:5
saw [3] - 11513:4,
11554:23, 11557:8
SC [1] - 11558:1
scales [1] - 11532:33
scandalous [1] 11579:38
scandals [3] 11511:27, 11514:23,
11514:30
school [1] - 11548:16
School [16] 11511:43, 11512:9,
11512:15, 11512:21,
11512:25, 11512:30,
11512:38, 11514:1,
11547:37, 11547:38,
11549:10, 11574:35,
11574:39, 11575:38,
11588:45, 11589:34
scientific [1] 11506:40
screen [11] - 11504:1,
11506:17, 11510:6,
11537:43, 11549:15,
11549:43, 11554:30,
11562:21, 11565:12,
11567:16, 11569:3
scroll [6] - 11507:35,
11510:15, 11554:32,
11563:5, 11569:4,
11570:2
scrolling [4] 11504:2, 11506:18,
11508:19, 11510:32
seat [2] - 11579:46,
11588:15
second [10] 11499:28, 11499:38,
11510:32, 11510:40,
11550:25, 11556:1,
11563:12, 11570:2,
11575:47, 11591:40
second-last [1] 11499:38
secondhand [2] 11535:21, 11540:27
secondly [1] 11574:37
sections [1] 11557:28
see [22] - 11501:3,
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11503:36, 11508:32,
11512:47, 11529:35,
11548:6, 11548:9,
11550:1, 11552:24,
11552:28, 11563:5,
11563:25, 11564:9,
11564:27, 11567:22,
11569:33, 11570:3,
11573:9, 11573:15,
11579:24, 11581:43,
11585:34
seeing [1] - 11552:29
seek [5] - 11500:4,
11504:33, 11576:14,
11590:45, 11591:29
seeking [3] 11557:29, 11557:32,
11571:41
seeks [1] - 11568:12
seem [1] - 11526:47
self [1] - 11516:43
self-evident [1] 11516:43
sell [1] - 11512:21
send [4] - 11555:19,
11555:21, 11584:34,
11584:39
sending [1] 11555:34
sends [1] - 11544:13
senior [12] - 11515:2,
11522:32, 11526:7,
11526:14, 11526:17,
11528:29, 11528:31,
11529:36, 11530:4,
11530:13, 11587:27,
11587:46
seniority [1] 11530:32
sense [8] - 11506:8,
11506:10, 11529:6,
11529:44, 11536:22,
11564:19, 11575:16,
11584:9
sensitively [1] 11522:30
sent [27] - 11510:36,
11512:6, 11546:18,
11547:37, 11549:45,
11550:5, 11550:11,
11550:13, 11550:24,
11551:3, 11554:23,
11554:24, 11554:34,
11557:8, 11557:24,
11560:7, 11560:17,
11567:12, 11569:6,
11569:8, 11569:12,
11569:25, 11584:2,
11584:10, 11584:29
sentence [4] -
11499:47, 11500:43,
11554:42, 11558:18
separate [4] 11505:5, 11509:32,
11510:45, 11545:19
September [1] 11502:17
serious [3] - 11533:7,
11539:10, 11586:43
seriously [3] 11533:12, 11539:3,
11578:38
seriousness [2] 11514:35, 11586:44
serve [1] - 11500:46
SERVED [1] - 11574:4
served [8] - 11517:4,
11525:4, 11565:45,
11572:43, 11586:31,
11590:11, 11591:9,
11591:14
services [2] 11524:34, 11553:12
session [7] 11551:24, 11551:30,
11551:39, 11552:41,
11566:42, 11567:5,
11567:6
set [13] - 11501:42,
11502:20, 11510:47,
11513:17, 11519:11,
11520:31, 11527:11,
11540:36, 11548:45,
11554:1, 11579:21,
11579:23, 11580:31
sets [4] - 11524:42,
11525:36, 11577:16,
11579:8
setting [5] - 11524:34,
11532:3, 11532:4,
11548:17, 11570:45
several [4] - 11544:22,
11546:13, 11563:39,
11568:6
severity [1] - 11589:38
sex [4] - 11511:26,
11514:23, 11514:30,
11529:15
sexual [15] 11514:47, 11515:8,
11516:26, 11516:39,
11517:29, 11520:15,
11524:10, 11534:5,
11547:20, 11553:11,
11559:23, 11579:28,
11589:10, 11589:29,
11590:25
SEXUAL [1] 11498:13
shaky [1] - 11525:37
20
11573:19, 11576:14,
11577:12, 11586:5
sort [18] - 11501:4,
11505:45, 11506:5,
11529:31, 11533:47,
11544:34, 11553:19,
11557:32, 11567:31,
11573:38, 11576:7,
11580:16, 11581:15,
11581:16, 11581:33,
11582:3, 11583:11,
11588:5
sought [6] - 11504:19,
11558:8, 11565:32,
11570:26, 11571:32,
11591:2
sounding [1] 11500:46
source [1] - 11506:30
spanned [1] - 11536:3
speaking [1] 11535:21
speaks [1] - 11578:6
specialist [1] 11543:17
specific [4] 11539:23, 11548:47,
11557:35, 11565:44
specifically [4] 11511:5, 11523:38,
11546:39, 11568:21
speed [1] - 11515:15
spell [1] - 11550:40
spelt [2] - 11524:4
spend [3] - 11505:1,
11506:4, 11523:40
spent [2] - 11508:29,
11523:25
spiritual [8] 11506:34, 11528:27,
11528:44, 11529:46,
11531:5, 11540:8,
11552:8, 11590:4
spiritually [1] 11539:14
split [4] - 11533:7,
11533:16, 11533:17,
11533:19
spoken [2] - 11533:5,
11568:16
spontaneously [1] 11586:19
spot [1] - 11515:11
squarely [1] 11574:33
SRI [2] - 11510:44,
11511:45
Sri [1] - 11512:23
staff [2] - 11515:2,
11587:24
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11517:15, 11519:12,
11519:17, 11520:34,
11520:36, 11520:39,
11521:2, 11521:7,
11522:41, 11523:1,
11547:47, 11578:43,
11589:19, 11591:38,
11592:16, 11592:26,
11592:29
states [10] - 11516:30,
11517:13, 11517:32,
11519:1, 11521:28,
11522:27, 11524:28,
11524:32, 11524:45,
11525:23
stating [3] - 11508:41,
11516:38, 11517:27
stay [4] - 11516:10,
11516:11, 11567:34
staying [1] - 11516:9
step [1] - 11582:47
steps [9] - 11519:34,
11519:36, 11519:42,
11519:47, 11520:1,
11525:41, 11526:46,
11545:4
sticking [1] 11575:30
still [7] - 11531:27,
11537:30, 11542:11,
11570:41, 11575:26,
11582:44, 11589:16
stir [3] - 11574:42,
11574:44, 11576:3
stood [1] - 11541:27
stop [2] - 11571:16,
11573:43
stories [4] - 11589:14,
11589:37, 11589:42,
11589:47
straight [1] - 11540:36
strands [2] 11501:12, 11501:13
strengths [1] 11575:4
strife [1] - 11511:12
structural [1] 11548:25
structure [11] 11502:20, 11502:23,
11509:15, 11509:16,
11527:46, 11527:47,
11528:11, 11530:31,
11561:40, 11563:19,
11563:43
student [1] - 11561:13
students [1] 11502:34
studies [1] - 11506:41
Study [1] - 11498:17
21
11565:44, 11565:47,
11566:3, 11593:2
summonses [2] 11536:30, 11536:31
sundry [1] - 11568:17
supervision [1] 11538:47
SUPPLEMENTARY
[1] - 11592:41
supplementary [2] 11592:10, 11592:46
support [9] 11511:18, 11511:42,
11511:45, 11520:18,
11520:25, 11524:27,
11531:46, 11584:25,
11589:9
Support [1] - 11532:5
supported [4] 11511:12, 11532:25,
11533:8, 11533:9
supporter [1] 11532:18
supporter's [1] 11548:20
supporting [4] 11506:33, 11506:40,
11531:47, 11541:38
suppose [7] 11502:26, 11503:2,
11537:13, 11545:13,
11556:7, 11559:2,
11585:20
surely [2] - 11538:28,
11580:6
surprise [1] 11532:17
surprised [2] 11546:11, 11546:14
surrounding [1] 11568:1
survived [1] 11573:34
survivor [9] 11520:18, 11521:29,
11524:18, 11524:27,
11524:35, 11544:14,
11544:38, 11548:20,
11571:40
survivors [14] 11515:27, 11516:39,
11520:35, 11520:40,
11521:14, 11521:34,
11524:3, 11527:8,
11531:12, 11566:13,
11568:36, 11570:36,
11589:26, 11589:41
suspects [1] 11514:46
suspicion [1] -
11515:1
Swami [29] - 11501:3,
11501:20, 11501:37,
11501:39, 11504:16,
11510:16, 11510:21,
11511:9, 11511:43,
11512:23, 11512:29,
11512:30, 11512:37,
11512:38, 11538:46,
11547:39, 11548:8,
11548:13, 11550:44,
11550:45, 11555:16,
11555:17, 11556:1,
11563:7, 11563:20,
11563:44, 11575:37,
11588:45
Swamiji [2] 11512:23, 11532:5
Swamis [1] - 11529:36
sworn [1] - 11499:5
SYA [28] - 11499:24,
11500:17, 11502:15,
11502:23, 11502:30,
11502:33, 11502:37,
11502:42, 11503:1,
11503:4, 11503:7,
11503:9, 11503:19,
11503:47, 11505:18,
11505:24, 11507:3,
11507:20, 11507:46,
11508:47, 11509:8,
11526:38, 11527:46,
11536:7, 11561:43,
11562:18, 11583:17,
11583:31
SYA's [1] - 11502:25
SYA.0003 [1] 11554:31
SYA.0003.001.0037_
R [1] - 11551:11
SYA.0003.001.0549_
R [1] - 11549:44
SYA.0006.004.0070
[1] - 11507:28
SYAA [1] - 11511:45
Sydney [2] 11498:22, 11591:18
symbolic [1] 11546:46
syndrome' [2] 11511:24, 11514:20
synonymous [1] 11507:9
system [9] - 11503:36,
11511:47, 11513:1,
11515:34, 11530:18,
11530:19, 11567:40,
11567:41, 11590:9
SYT [1] - 11509:18
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T
tab [5] - 11537:43,
11549:3, 11549:44,
11551:10, 11554:31
table [2] - 11585:7,
11588:35
talks [2] - 11525:22,
11528:43
tarnish [2] - 11511:27,
11514:23
tarred [1] - 11575:16
task [6] - 11541:26,
11541:27, 11541:31,
11542:16, 11542:30,
11591:37
Taskforce [2] 11582:47, 11586:7
taskforce [25] 11524:43, 11531:9,
11531:26, 11531:27,
11531:33, 11531:38,
11531:41, 11532:27,
11533:33, 11533:41,
11534:1, 11534:10,
11534:19, 11541:33,
11541:34, 11541:38,
11543:5, 11543:9,
11548:17, 11566:8,
11566:11, 11566:12,
11566:15, 11583:4,
11584:26
tax [1] - 11547:47
Taylor [2] - 11548:39,
11584:6
TAYLOR [8] 11548:41, 11548:43,
11556:16, 11556:26,
11556:32, 11556:40,
11557:8, 11560:35
Taylor's [2] 11548:43, 11584:2
teacher [8] 11500:23, 11501:45,
11509:23, 11530:13,
11530:17, 11550:27,
11575:26
Teachers [2] 11558:31, 11584:47
teachers [5] 11502:35, 11509:24,
11528:29, 11528:31,
11584:47
teaching [1] 11506:45
teachings [2] 11506:27, 11529:38
team [43] - 11500:17,
11503:21, 11503:25,
11503:32, 11503:44,
11504:37, 11504:38,
11504:39, 11504:45,
11505:5, 11505:6,
11505:7, 11505:8,
11505:11, 11505:14,
11506:6, 11506:9,
11506:10, 11507:5,
11507:12, 11515:3,
11526:19, 11526:21,
11526:22, 11531:2,
11531:30, 11532:39,
11541:37, 11544:30,
11557:42, 11558:20,
11562:34, 11568:22,
11582:37, 11583:29,
11583:30, 11584:13,
11593:19
tend [1] - 11529:36
TENDER [1] 11592:41
tender [5] - 11500:7,
11573:47, 11576:18,
11592:33, 11592:46
tendered [7] 11545:24, 11576:18,
11580:3, 11580:8,
11580:15, 11581:43,
11592:25
tendering [3] 11560:21, 11576:16,
11591:37
term [11] - 11506:9,
11529:28, 11530:17,
11549:29, 11552:8,
11556:29, 11556:30,
11559:6, 11562:8,
11564:19, 11566:25
terms [38] - 11501:2,
11503:11, 11503:39,
11504:30, 11505:44,
11507:14, 11508:6,
11508:8, 11508:43,
11509:14, 11509:20,
11509:29, 11513:44,
11515:26, 11516:27,
11517:13, 11519:15,
11521:5, 11523:18,
11526:17, 11529:21,
11529:23, 11530:32,
11535:12, 11538:2,
11540:22, 11542:19,
11543:26, 11547:27,
11547:29, 11550:37,
11561:28, 11565:22,
11568:37, 11569:12,
11583:28, 11590:44,
11591:27
Terracini [5] 11547:34, 11548:46,
11588:35, 11588:41,
22
11588:44
TERRACINI [4] 11547:36, 11548:33,
11588:38, 11588:44
Terracini's [1] 11547:36
Terry [5] - 11567:6,
11570:27, 11570:34,
11571:26, 11593:8
Tetlow [23] - 11499:3,
11499:10, 11500:14,
11506:21, 11508:19,
11523:36, 11524:15,
11525:46, 11535:40,
11537:43, 11539:32,
11547:17, 11556:37,
11560:44, 11561:11,
11572:37, 11577:13,
11582:18, 11582:23,
11587:11, 11588:13,
11588:21, 11592:27
TETLOW [3] 11499:5, 11500:12,
11592:42
Tetlow's [2] 11567:15, 11582:10
text [1] - 11569:6
THE [78] - 11499:1,
11500:10, 11516:3,
11516:46, 11518:3,
11518:9, 11518:19,
11521:41, 11523:5,
11523:15, 11524:13,
11525:10, 11525:12,
11525:14, 11527:28,
11527:33, 11527:39,
11535:34, 11535:39,
11535:44, 11539:30,
11539:38, 11545:13,
11547:34, 11548:35,
11548:39, 11556:23,
11556:28, 11556:34,
11556:42, 11557:5,
11560:38, 11560:43,
11561:3, 11564:7,
11564:14, 11574:2,
11574:11, 11576:20,
11577:4, 11577:11,
11577:43, 11578:8,
11578:17, 11578:45,
11579:4, 11579:46,
11580:12, 11581:8,
11581:27, 11581:38,
11581:46, 11582:10,
11582:17, 11582:23,
11587:9, 11587:36,
11588:8, 11588:13,
11588:18, 11588:23,
11588:31, 11588:40,
11591:21, 11591:26,
11591:33, 11591:46,
11592:7, 11592:16,
11592:32, 11592:38,
11592:42, 11592:45,
11593:11, 11593:17,
11593:23, 11593:27,
11593:34
themselves [2] 11519:34, 11537:29
they've [5] - 11513:18,
11521:27, 11529:40,
11547:13, 11582:2
thinking [4] 11537:22, 11537:24,
11537:26, 11537:41
third [9] - 11504:2,
11510:43, 11511:3,
11558:7, 11558:29,
11563:12, 11565:47,
11566:3, 11582:42
THOMSON [2] 11592:19, 11592:20
Thomson [10] 11504:21, 11505:26,
11505:27, 11528:34,
11529:6, 11583:35,
11583:36, 11592:11,
11593:7
thoughts [1] 11532:18
thousands [1] 11546:8
threat [2] - 11513:6,
11573:32
threatened [1] 11513:16
threatening [1] 11558:32
three [18] - 11510:37,
11512:47, 11513:6,
11533:2, 11536:20,
11536:28, 11536:32,
11536:34, 11553:32,
11556:5, 11581:34,
11582:39, 11583:4,
11583:19, 11583:22,
11583:27, 11583:31,
11583:33
throughout [4] 11517:6, 11517:36,
11557:27, 11585:6
ties [2] - 11512:10,
11574:36
Tim [18] - 11524:42,
11525:3, 11534:20,
11537:4, 11541:1,
11541:7, 11542:3,
11543:8, 11543:10,
11543:29, 11543:31,
11543:46, 11544:14,
11544:18, 11544:23,
11544:32, 11571:46,
11581:16
Tim's [1] - 11544:37
timeframe [4] 11581:15, 11581:17,
11581:33, 11582:3
timetable [1] 11590:45
timing [1] - 11541:30
title [4] - 11503:18,
11503:30, 11529:37,
11562:4
TO [3] - 11498:13,
11592:42, 11593:35
today [11] - 11515:45,
11515:47, 11519:19,
11520:25, 11537:36,
11562:24, 11567:18,
11573:17, 11573:19,
11578:3, 11589:16
together [2] 11536:20, 11582:12
token [1] - 11524:23
toll [1] - 11541:32
tomorrow [1] 11573:16
took [4] - 11502:1,
11513:38, 11525:4,
11541:32
top [5] - 11505:36,
11509:36, 11530:23,
11549:45, 11569:5
topic [3] - 11515:23,
11515:39, 11551:23
topics [1] - 11535:34
total [2] - 11508:38,
11508:40
touch [5] - 11541:13,
11544:21, 11576:35,
11587:31
touching [1] 11582:24
towards [1] 11519:34
Tower [1] - 11498:21
trademarks [1] 11555:45
trading [2] - 11502:41,
11555:14
tradition [12] 11500:39, 11500:40,
11500:44, 11501:3,
11501:4, 11501:7,
11501:47, 11502:4,
11502:8, 11513:28,
11529:35, 11529:40
traditional [2] 11501:12, 11503:27
traditions [1] -
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11501:11
trained [1] - 11542:3
training [22] 11500:23, 11501:43,
11501:45, 11502:1,
11503:20, 11515:7,
11515:11, 11515:12,
11515:19, 11542:41,
11542:42, 11542:46,
11575:26, 11587:15,
11587:18, 11587:22,
11587:23, 11587:29,
11587:32, 11587:38,
11587:46
transcript [2] 11516:31, 11523:31
transformed [1] 11532:21
transpired [1] 11533:5
trauma [8] - 11525:31,
11543:21, 11544:34,
11544:40, 11545:18,
11545:19, 11547:13,
11589:15
traumatised [4] 11544:43, 11545:30,
11545:37, 11577:23
travel [1] - 11509:24
travelling [2] 11500:38, 11509:23
traverse [1] 11556:20
traversing [1] 11545:7
treasurer [1] 11505:32
treat [1] - 11586:43
treated [1] - 11577:23
tremendously [2] 11533:24, 11533:26
trial [5] - 11531:47,
11532:12, 11532:19,
11532:26
tried [2] - 11546:31,
11571:26
tries [2] - 11544:18,
11579:43
trigger [2] - 11534:18,
11534:19
triggered [1] 11525:32
trite [1] - 11500:46
trivial [2] - 11519:42,
11527:1
troubled [1] 11529:45
true [2] - 11499:19,
11556:14
Trust [5] - 11509:11,
11509:17, 11509:18,
11555:10, 11555:11
trust [3] - 11509:15,
11541:22, 11590:1
trustee [2] - 11509:22,
11555:11
trustees [2] 11509:19, 11555:10
trusts [5] - 11509:17,
11509:26, 11509:28,
11509:30, 11509:34
truth [1] - 11589:29
truths [1] - 11589:27
try [1] - 11500:46
trying [6] - 11544:21,
11546:32, 11571:16,
11571:22, 11571:28,
11571:29
TUESDAY [1] 11593:35
turf [1] - 11521:15
turn [1] - 11578:10
turned [1] - 11581:39
two [20] - 11499:25,
11502:38, 11503:1,
11503:6, 11509:17,
11509:19, 11509:23,
11509:26, 11509:28,
11511:2, 11523:41,
11532:30, 11572:33,
11575:42, 11575:43,
11581:34, 11582:5,
11582:36, 11587:45,
11591:12
two/two [1] - 11553:40
type [12] - 11505:46,
11515:9, 11524:18,
11529:14, 11534:2,
11534:14, 11557:33,
11557:36, 11558:15,
11579:9, 11580:19,
11580:25
types [7] - 11501:6,
11504:45, 11529:11,
11537:29, 11579:23,
11580:23, 11580:24
U
ultimately [1] 11559:24
unabridged [1] 11509:45
unacceptable [1] 11579:44
unaccompanied [1] 11516:11
unauthorised [1] 11512:41
under [8] - 11564:34,
11569:16, 11576:16,
23
11586:42, 11590:3,
11590:6, 11593:2
undergone [1] 11501:43
underneath [1] 11522:18
underpin [1] - 11502:4
underpins [1] 11502:6
understandably [2] 11544:24, 11585:1
understood [7] 11539:31, 11539:32,
11554:14, 11566:37,
11577:43, 11587:41,
11588:24
underway [1] 11586:24
unfold [1] - 11581:30
unfortunate [1] 11578:29
unfortunately [3] 11541:2, 11544:26,
11578:15
unheard [1] 11519:20
uninformed [1] 11522:33
uniquely [1] 11529:17
unless [3] - 11511:46,
11515:45, 11591:46
unnecessarily [1] 11544:5
unofficial [2] 11558:38, 11559:1
unreasonable [1] 11522:43
up [34] - 11508:25,
11508:27, 11514:39,
11515:15, 11515:27,
11517:15, 11524:34,
11526:34, 11529:29,
11531:31, 11532:3,
11532:4, 11532:12,
11535:29, 11544:19,
11548:17, 11548:45,
11549:1, 11549:43,
11551:10, 11554:30,
11558:3, 11558:30,
11571:29, 11574:13,
11578:21, 11578:47,
11584:18, 11585:17,
11585:35, 11585:42,
11587:12, 11590:46,
11592:35
up-to-date [2] 11515:27, 11535:29
update [2] - 11549:41,
11551:4
V
valid [1] - 11522:24
validity [1] - 11522:22
value [6] - 11508:3,
11508:28, 11508:43,
11508:44, 11509:5
valued [1] - 11509:6
various [10] 11523:22, 11549:5,
11557:28, 11559:23,
11562:32, 11570:21,
11580:4, 11584:26,
11585:5, 11587:16
variously [1] 11505:6
vast [1] - 11507:45
Vedic [1] - 11546:9
ventilate [1] - 11572:4
venue [1] - 11502:46
veracity [1] - 11523:26
via [7] - 11520:2,
11522:12, 11524:39,
11525:16, 11558:28,
11558:31, 11570:16
viability [1] - 11576:7
vice [1] - 11505:31
vice-president [1] 11505:31
victim [3] - 11537:37,
11543:29, 11547:1
victims [26] 11518:37, 11518:46,
11520:21, 11521:23,
11522:31, 11525:15,
11529:16, 11531:11,
11532:42, 11532:46,
11537:11, 11541:39,
11543:21, 11545:39,
11546:24, 11546:29,
11547:19, 11571:13,
11580:44, 11582:6,
11587:2, 11589:14,
11589:20, 11589:47,
11590:15, 11590:35
victims' [1] - 11544:14
Victoria [2] - 11503:8,
11555:14
video [1] - 11512:22
view [10] - 11501:47,
11522:15, 11538:45,
11538:47, 11540:24,
11541:45, 11548:7,
11559:13, 11575:17
viewpoint [1] 11548:7
violations [1] 11515:9
violence [2] 11590:24, 11590:26
vis--vis [1] 11568:21
visit [1] - 11513:26
visited [1] - 11500:22
Vivekananda [2] 11505:27, 11583:35
voicing [1] - 11589:26
volunteer [2] 11502:46, 11502:47
volunteers [1] 11522:33
vote [2] - 11553:38,
11553:40
vulnerable [1] 11516:36
W
wait [1] - 11522:42
Wakeman [3] 11592:9, 11592:27,
11593:6
WAKEMAN [1] 11592:43
Walk [1] - 11592:13
WALK [1] - 11592:22
wall [1] - 11568:32
wants [1] - 11521:23
WAS [1] - 11593:34
waste [1] - 11546:23
ways [5] - 11515:5,
11520:19, 11568:5,
11585:6, 11586:33
websites [4] 11512:15, 11512:32,
11574:38, 11575:39
Wednesday [1] 11498:27
week [8] - 11517:6,
11544:16, 11546:41,
11567:34, 11568:23,
11578:24, 11582:5,
11587:3
week-long [1] 11567:34
weekend [7] 11502:33, 11502:44,
11520:13, 11541:40,
11552:47, 11553:4,
11567:33
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Y
YAM.0001.001.1877
[1] - 11506:18
YAM.0001.001.1899_
R [1] - 11504:2
YAM.0004.001.0001_
R [1] - 11562:22
YAM.001.001.1407_R
[1] - 11569:4
YAMM [12] - 11499:34,
11499:43, 11502:23,
11502:40, 11502:42,
11503:1, 11505:18,
11506:16, 11507:3,
11507:20, 11511:45,
11562:3
YAMM.0004.001.
0001_R [1] - 11510:6
YAV [2] - 11503:7,
11503:14
Year [1] - 11515:13
year [25] - 11500:27,
11500:34, 11504:32,
11507:44, 11507:47,
11511:26, 11514:7,
24
11514:23, 11514:30,
11515:10, 11519:33,
11519:47, 11520:4,
11523:18, 11531:12,
11535:22, 11536:4,
11546:31, 11549:24,
11559:22, 11562:24,
11569:42, 11569:46,
11572:3
year-old [2] 11514:23, 11514:30
years [14] - 11507:16,
11507:17, 11508:8,
11524:29, 11535:13,
11535:14, 11536:3,
11546:8, 11546:13,
11575:21, 11581:34,
11581:35, 11587:14,
11589:41
yesterday [1] 11583:34
Yoga [40] - 11501:45,
11502:40, 11502:42,
11503:8, 11504:6,
11505:29, 11509:11,
11509:17, 11511:43,
11512:9, 11512:15,
11512:21, 11512:25,
11512:31, 11512:39,
11513:35, 11514:1,
11547:37, 11547:38,
11549:10, 11550:2,
11550:5, 11555:7,
11555:9, 11555:10,
11555:13, 11555:15,
11555:38, 11558:31,
11561:41, 11562:3,
11570:6, 11574:35,
11574:39, 11575:38,
11584:47, 11588:45,
11589:34
yoga [32] - 11500:39,
11501:2, 11501:5,
11501:6, 11501:7,
11501:9, 11501:10,
11501:12, 11501:13,
11501:14, 11501:43,
11501:44, 11502:1,
11502:7, 11502:45,
11506:41, 11511:10,
11511:13, 11511:37,
11513:28, 11530:14,
11538:30, 11538:31,
11561:21, 11574:42,
11575:20, 11589:13,
11590:3, 11590:27
YOGASANDHAN [2] 11592:22, 11592:43
Yogasandhan [8] 11503:42, 11504:40,
11558:44, 11569:17,
11570:10, 11582:40,
11592:14, 11592:28
yogic [5] - 11506:27,
11506:37, 11506:45,
11590:19, 11590:22
you" [1] - 11556:14
younger [1] 11501:38
yourself [5] 11505:10, 11526:6,
11536:11, 11550:7,
11588:41
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