11 reviews
- grewelgrewel
- Oct 31, 2009
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I got the impression from comments here and articles elsewhere that this documentary would be another expose on the alleged New World Order and related subjects. But that's not what this is at all.
This film isn't about conspiracy theories; instead it's an intimate look into the lives and mindsets of people who honestly believe in them. It's fairly objective and relatively nonjudgmental -- so much so it might even come off as a sympathetic review of what they have to say if you're already a believer.
However, if you previously dismissed people like Alex Jones as kooks, you might gain a very different kind of sympathy here, and it becomes more difficult to call those "911 was an inside job" demonstrators stupid. While misguided, all the people featured in this film are depicted as victims of obsessions that have targeted each of their specific vulnerabilities. This documentary doesn't support their positions but instead demonstrates how such ideas can take hold in otherwise rational people.
Again, this is not done in a mocking tone. It's actually hard to come away from this film without feeling sorry for all the people involved. By their own actions, admissions, and candid comments, those featured here reveal that they're the ones actually wearing the blinders they're committed to telling everyone else to take off. On some level Alex Jones even seems to understand this, but his occupation forces him to stay trapped inside his obsessions. For others not so invested, time might be a simple cure if they can get away from the cult-like reinforcement their obsessions have encouraged them to seek.
This film isn't about conspiracy theories; instead it's an intimate look into the lives and mindsets of people who honestly believe in them. It's fairly objective and relatively nonjudgmental -- so much so it might even come off as a sympathetic review of what they have to say if you're already a believer.
However, if you previously dismissed people like Alex Jones as kooks, you might gain a very different kind of sympathy here, and it becomes more difficult to call those "911 was an inside job" demonstrators stupid. While misguided, all the people featured in this film are depicted as victims of obsessions that have targeted each of their specific vulnerabilities. This documentary doesn't support their positions but instead demonstrates how such ideas can take hold in otherwise rational people.
Again, this is not done in a mocking tone. It's actually hard to come away from this film without feeling sorry for all the people involved. By their own actions, admissions, and candid comments, those featured here reveal that they're the ones actually wearing the blinders they're committed to telling everyone else to take off. On some level Alex Jones even seems to understand this, but his occupation forces him to stay trapped inside his obsessions. For others not so invested, time might be a simple cure if they can get away from the cult-like reinforcement their obsessions have encouraged them to seek.
- The_Secret_Skull
- Apr 21, 2009
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New World Order is a disappointing, incoherent conglomerate of footage, mostly that of egomaniac and alleged CIA shill Alex Jones doing his notorious and anti-climactic ranting and raving pertaining to the common belief that there is a sinister and malevolent conspiracy being perpetrated against our world by the global elite to create a centralized one world government. While there is overwhelming evidence to suggest that leaders of various governments are involved in such a plan, this film is not even remotely an effective vehicle to communicate and effectively support such an idea.
What begins with an amateurish analysis of the Kennedy assassination turns to weak and sparse information regarding the 911 Truth movement as communicated by a handful of mostly unknowns. Aside from Jones' laughable "performance", the other activists featured appear to be well-meaning and passionate about their cause and dissemination of their beliefs, albeit in an apparently poorly organized fashion.
Jones, however, steals any value to the cause by pointing at every other vehicle traveling behind him or person walking in his direction accusing them of being Secret Service or some CIA "spook". When he is not being an embarrassment to himself and the cause he "claims" to support with a bullhorn, he's seen followed by his bewildered entourage going here and there polluting each event he takes part in. At one point he is seen arrested in NYC at a 911 rally. What a shame that they didn't keep him in jail.
New World Order does nothing but damage the credibility of a pertinent and intelligent movement to get the word out. It portrays activists as Conspiracy theorists indirectly by featuring footage that is more damning than helpful. Please don't base your opinions on the possible existence of a NWO conspiracy on this film. Do your own research and trust your gut to determine the truth. Don't give this film 10 stars just because you agree with its premise or they will continue to create sub-par ineffective films.
The ending, I thought by the way, was very effective at portraying the despair a lot of us feel about this war on our rights. I applaud the activists in this film for their passion. I hope they will wake up and dump Jones as their leader.
New World Order's intent is confused. What appears to be the director's intent is to make a film about conspiracy theorists. However what emerges is a hodgepodge of puzzle pieces belonging to different puzzles. Essentially, New World Order does not know what it wants to be when it grows up.
What begins with an amateurish analysis of the Kennedy assassination turns to weak and sparse information regarding the 911 Truth movement as communicated by a handful of mostly unknowns. Aside from Jones' laughable "performance", the other activists featured appear to be well-meaning and passionate about their cause and dissemination of their beliefs, albeit in an apparently poorly organized fashion.
Jones, however, steals any value to the cause by pointing at every other vehicle traveling behind him or person walking in his direction accusing them of being Secret Service or some CIA "spook". When he is not being an embarrassment to himself and the cause he "claims" to support with a bullhorn, he's seen followed by his bewildered entourage going here and there polluting each event he takes part in. At one point he is seen arrested in NYC at a 911 rally. What a shame that they didn't keep him in jail.
New World Order does nothing but damage the credibility of a pertinent and intelligent movement to get the word out. It portrays activists as Conspiracy theorists indirectly by featuring footage that is more damning than helpful. Please don't base your opinions on the possible existence of a NWO conspiracy on this film. Do your own research and trust your gut to determine the truth. Don't give this film 10 stars just because you agree with its premise or they will continue to create sub-par ineffective films.
The ending, I thought by the way, was very effective at portraying the despair a lot of us feel about this war on our rights. I applaud the activists in this film for their passion. I hope they will wake up and dump Jones as their leader.
New World Order's intent is confused. What appears to be the director's intent is to make a film about conspiracy theorists. However what emerges is a hodgepodge of puzzle pieces belonging to different puzzles. Essentially, New World Order does not know what it wants to be when it grows up.
- Kashmirgrey
- Oct 29, 2009
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There's one of two ways to look at movies like this. From the mindset of an objective viewer...preferably someone who knows little to nothing about who these people really are. Then there's people who will watch it having already reached a conclusion and want something to "support" their views. The objective viewer will likely come away feeling sorry for the film's participants. The other type will scream and yell "I told you!!" as the film gets twisted up in their own warped sense of reality. People can believe whatever they want and that's just fine by me so I'm certainly not knocking anyone, but how can you call a movie a documentary when (at least) half of it's audience has already drawn their own conclusions before even popping it in?
To make myself perfectly clear: do conspiracy theories exist? Almost certainly. Is Alex Jones the best guy to get your info from concerning them? Absolutely not. The guy's been shown time and again to be an absolute nutjob who will do and say anything in the name of sensationalism. Hell, he even managed to pull Charlie Sheen down with him. Plus Jones, much like Jeff Rense, has a whole league of followers just waiting to call you ignorant or oblivious if you disagree, but will blindly accept about 90% of what these guys say as fact. But oh well...all is not lost. If you never wind up with a significant amount of power you'll probably never hear of these guys. If you do gain said power, they will attempt to tear you down regardless of your political affiliations or belief system about virtually anything. They will go over every minute detail of your life and claim you are NWO/Illuminati/Freemason/Knights Templar/Bilderberg/Trilateral Commision/Mastercard preferred customer until some idiot believes it. That, or they'll just flat out lie. And someone decided to make these idiots the subject of a "documentary"? Don't waste your time unless you're already a follower or unless you like to watch people unwittingly humiliate themselves. So, in a sense, this film is not unlike an episode of cops. A bunch of people acting like morons and unable to figure out what anyone else sees wrong with it.
To make myself perfectly clear: do conspiracy theories exist? Almost certainly. Is Alex Jones the best guy to get your info from concerning them? Absolutely not. The guy's been shown time and again to be an absolute nutjob who will do and say anything in the name of sensationalism. Hell, he even managed to pull Charlie Sheen down with him. Plus Jones, much like Jeff Rense, has a whole league of followers just waiting to call you ignorant or oblivious if you disagree, but will blindly accept about 90% of what these guys say as fact. But oh well...all is not lost. If you never wind up with a significant amount of power you'll probably never hear of these guys. If you do gain said power, they will attempt to tear you down regardless of your political affiliations or belief system about virtually anything. They will go over every minute detail of your life and claim you are NWO/Illuminati/Freemason/Knights Templar/Bilderberg/Trilateral Commision/Mastercard preferred customer until some idiot believes it. That, or they'll just flat out lie. And someone decided to make these idiots the subject of a "documentary"? Don't waste your time unless you're already a follower or unless you like to watch people unwittingly humiliate themselves. So, in a sense, this film is not unlike an episode of cops. A bunch of people acting like morons and unable to figure out what anyone else sees wrong with it.
- Heislegend
- Oct 26, 2009
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I've been reading the board for this documentary, and I really think a lot of people have it wrong.
To me, this is a great documentary. People who are trying to argue one side or the other of the conspiracy theory, using this film as justification, are just plain looking at it the wrong way. This is about people. It's not meant to enlighten the viewer on the details of any of these theories. In fact, one thing I noticed quite a bit was how details of the actual beliefs of these people are mostly left out. Of course we hear them yell at protests, and talk about their beliefs, but this is more about understanding the person.
We get the stories of several different people: how they started with their current beliefs, how it's changed their lives, how their daily lives are occupied with this stuff. In the end, it all ties together.
At the end of it all, I personally see this as a film showing us how these are all real people who, while possibly misguided, are not genuinely crazy (the exception possibly being Jones, even though you end up feeling bad for him in a way). These are just people who ended up on the path they're on for one reason or another, like we all do.
I think that anyone who can watch this objectively will enjoy it. Don't let yourself get caught up in whether or not 9/11 was a conspiracy or how evil the Bildergerg Group is. This is a study of people... of a very particular culture of people, but people nonetheless.
To me, this is a great documentary. People who are trying to argue one side or the other of the conspiracy theory, using this film as justification, are just plain looking at it the wrong way. This is about people. It's not meant to enlighten the viewer on the details of any of these theories. In fact, one thing I noticed quite a bit was how details of the actual beliefs of these people are mostly left out. Of course we hear them yell at protests, and talk about their beliefs, but this is more about understanding the person.
We get the stories of several different people: how they started with their current beliefs, how it's changed their lives, how their daily lives are occupied with this stuff. In the end, it all ties together.
At the end of it all, I personally see this as a film showing us how these are all real people who, while possibly misguided, are not genuinely crazy (the exception possibly being Jones, even though you end up feeling bad for him in a way). These are just people who ended up on the path they're on for one reason or another, like we all do.
I think that anyone who can watch this objectively will enjoy it. Don't let yourself get caught up in whether or not 9/11 was a conspiracy or how evil the Bildergerg Group is. This is a study of people... of a very particular culture of people, but people nonetheless.
- johnbrophy81
- Oct 29, 2009
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Alex Jones is just one of many conservatives in America that are funded and promoted by the Koch brothers, just like the Tea Party movement, Libertarians and many Republicans. Alex Jones' task is to defend the interests of the monopolist Kochs, which means supporting cuts to health care and social security, badmouthing the Soviet Union, and distracting people from the problems of monopoly capitalism in America. You don't get to appear on The View if you're against the establishment. The Kochs are not the only elite group in the USA, but they're definitely one of the most important and influential. They do have one redeeming value though - they seem to be against big wars. Alex Jones is a vile lying character.
- khanbaliq2
- Apr 18, 2014
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The idea of "The New World Order" is nothing new. Conspiracy theorists have been shouting about "One-World Government" for a long time. There are a lot of people who really believe that the UN or some organization like it will control the World one day.
We have heard about the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, or the Bilderberg Group. The so-called "mainstream media" has ignored the "threat" according to the theorists, but with the Internet we now have an opportunity to pass the word along.
The constant wars, the current economic crisis, and the quest for oil has just fanned the flames of the theorists. Did our government cause 9/11? Did they kill Kennedy? Is the Washington Monument a Masonic power source? Waco? Katrina? Ruby Ridge? Are they all part of some conspiracy? But, this documentary is not about the theories, but about the people who spend their time promoting them. You can dismiss them as crackpots, but they are real people. What drives them to do this? Is it the same as those that ring your doorbell with bibles or religious tracts? Is it any different than those of us who scream that you gotta see this movie? The people in this film seem sincere. Are they just dupes of an angry Austin radio talk show host (Alex Jones)? As much as they try to make these characters real, it is still hard not to laugh at them, especially when they start telling their followers to buy guns and ammunition.
It was very informative and no matter which side of the fence you are on, it is worth knowing about.
We have heard about the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, or the Bilderberg Group. The so-called "mainstream media" has ignored the "threat" according to the theorists, but with the Internet we now have an opportunity to pass the word along.
The constant wars, the current economic crisis, and the quest for oil has just fanned the flames of the theorists. Did our government cause 9/11? Did they kill Kennedy? Is the Washington Monument a Masonic power source? Waco? Katrina? Ruby Ridge? Are they all part of some conspiracy? But, this documentary is not about the theories, but about the people who spend their time promoting them. You can dismiss them as crackpots, but they are real people. What drives them to do this? Is it the same as those that ring your doorbell with bibles or religious tracts? Is it any different than those of us who scream that you gotta see this movie? The people in this film seem sincere. Are they just dupes of an angry Austin radio talk show host (Alex Jones)? As much as they try to make these characters real, it is still hard not to laugh at them, especially when they start telling their followers to buy guns and ammunition.
It was very informative and no matter which side of the fence you are on, it is worth knowing about.
- lastliberal
- Apr 16, 2009
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To be completely honest, I love these conspiracy theory documentaries. Loose Change, Zeitgeist etc are great movies. They really make you think and have lot's of facts that follow all the crazy accusations.
This movie on the other hand is just stupid. All the silly stereotypes about conspiracy theorists run rampant in this movie. A bunch of wacky lunatics yelling at people and accusing them of nonsense. The head nutbar, Alex Jones, is just mind boggling to listen to. I couldn't believe the turds that were coming out of his mouth. There are way better ways of getting your point across then acting arrogant and offensive. Here's a few ideas i came up with all by myself: Intelligence, Factual knowledge, Politeness, Not acting psychotic.
There were a few points in the movie where i was starting to wonder who the film makers side was on. As the guys doing the "enlightening" were getting enlightened themselves... with logic... from regular people.
To sum this thing up, this movie highlights everything that is wrong with conspiracy theorists, uneducated wackos spouting off about crazy theories and providing ZERO factual evidence. A massive step back... way back, from any kind of legitimacy for any of the topics brought up.
This movie on the other hand is just stupid. All the silly stereotypes about conspiracy theorists run rampant in this movie. A bunch of wacky lunatics yelling at people and accusing them of nonsense. The head nutbar, Alex Jones, is just mind boggling to listen to. I couldn't believe the turds that were coming out of his mouth. There are way better ways of getting your point across then acting arrogant and offensive. Here's a few ideas i came up with all by myself: Intelligence, Factual knowledge, Politeness, Not acting psychotic.
There were a few points in the movie where i was starting to wonder who the film makers side was on. As the guys doing the "enlightening" were getting enlightened themselves... with logic... from regular people.
To sum this thing up, this movie highlights everything that is wrong with conspiracy theorists, uneducated wackos spouting off about crazy theories and providing ZERO factual evidence. A massive step back... way back, from any kind of legitimacy for any of the topics brought up.
- StabKickPunch
- Nov 3, 2009
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Just finished watching this after finding out about it searching for some films to download on a DVD info site. Immediately piqued my interest. This author started being obsessive with all kinds of conspiracy theories about a year ago, and now starting to cool off a bit. Because of the chaotic nature of the sheer volume of information, I've not been active in the slightest, except sometimes in conversation. Previously I was completely ignorant - I didn't watch TV, I wasn't really aware of the 'alternative media' or conspiracy theories. I've never been a reader of newspapers. I heard some of my friends talking about David Icke YEARS ago, not in a positive way, had no idea who he was nor did I bother finding out. The same friend had mentioned about some book about the NASA moon landing being a hoax but then it didn't really interest me. Due to not taking notice of history or current affairs I wasn't aware of much, that's a consequence of my personal development, or lack of. I was super socialised, like most of the people in my place of Birth, England, and the UK. In 2007 I met a guy at the 'Sunrise' Festival, he was talking about money and banking - he gave me his myspace (called 'what is money and where does it come from') It had all the classic stuff, Aaron Russo, Gordon Maxwell. A few months later a slightly down-and-out and under confident Russian man in London gave me a DVD of Alex Jones (ENDGAME), and I another who had shown me early 911 documentaries. They didn't mean much. However Jones' film caught my attention and I started reading about eugenics - I got Edwin Black's seminal book 'War Against the Weak' in fact. I'd also come across his video for his book 'IBM and the Holocaust' in 2003 on guerrilla news network (.com). Eventually I threw myself into almost 24/7 reading on the internet, ordering books, watching videos, reading all kind of wacky websites - we all know they are all out there. Then eventually things started to gel and patterns started to emerge. I went to see Icke talk in Brixton in May 2008, and I pretty much fell for his spiel. I don't like him anymore but I OVERSTAND what it's about due to that process of investigation. We humans are very susceptible to suggestion, especially if we are looking for answers. In hindsight, I'm glad I went through those early stages, and later stages, and now, my knowledge is starting to galvanise, to crystallise. Icke is for sure right about some of the historical stuff he talks about, on a basic level, but the new age and paranormal can be a bit much for this material plane. So after a week or so of Icke - still utterly convinced that there were crazy unseen forces controlling humanity from within, I moved onto Alan Watt - he would be interesting to make a film about. I listened to hundreds of his podcasts over many many months and ended up extremely lacklustre, paranoid and obsessive. That guy (the best description I found on some forum was 'the thinking man's David Icke'.) is amazing in his endless knowledge and information. However he is profoundly manipulative with his conclusions. I believed it. I saw that he was using similar techniques to cult or new age religious leaders. However, some of the details he talks about, using unique language not like other 'truthers' are DEMONSTRABLY true, as he cites UN and other think tank and NGO documents, and papers and books by history's greatest movers and shakers in the Anglo American establishment. As a consequence I now have an enormous interest in history, the occult, psychology, political science and economics - and I know a great deal about them from a non-conventional perspective which I would never have had, had I not gone through this phase as a 'conspiracy theorist'.
This film here is mainly focusing on Jones, who I am constantly in two minds about but eventually, I think he's genuine.The interviews are sensitively done and are quite intimate. It's easy to see how a viewer could be drawn toward pity on their behalf. It's a shame because realistically, once one goes through the obsession of a 'theorist', some of the things you learn are completely and demonstrably true. It becomes obvious and this is a little worrying. Conversely also, the 'dominant reality' to which we subscribe is largely contrived. However the overall behaviour and tactics and psychology of the 'truther' are not compatible with those of us who live in the 'dominant reality'. I have TRULY discovered the meaning of Orwell's term 'doublethink' because I now DO it for the first time, on the daily. Does that make me schizophrenic? Not necessarily *phew* Explaining how I think is not easy at all, I've not learned to articulate the perpetual irreconcilability. All I can do is advise you, the reader to develop critical thinking and to not subscribe to the toxicity of the dominant reality nor to become a religious devotee of unsubstantiated paranoid delusions. It's a fine line. Great film, lets see more like it. Start learning and kNOWING instead of having your convictions inculcated into you through osmosis (mass media). Other information on these subjects can be found on a podcast debunking conspiracy theories available on iTunes/audio podcasts/history/'the conspiracy sceptic' and I also listened to an short LSE lecture (LSE website) by David Aaronovich about his book 'Voodo Histories'. I do recommend a few listens to Alan Watt at Cutting Through the Matrix (.com) - it's an amazing source of history but be careful with it. It's up to the individual and their philosophy if they have one whether the events are utterly manipulated, inevitable, chaotic, or a combination of all of them. For those who care and are smart they will develop a process of individuation, a philosophy and begin to see with eyes unclouded.
This film here is mainly focusing on Jones, who I am constantly in two minds about but eventually, I think he's genuine.The interviews are sensitively done and are quite intimate. It's easy to see how a viewer could be drawn toward pity on their behalf. It's a shame because realistically, once one goes through the obsession of a 'theorist', some of the things you learn are completely and demonstrably true. It becomes obvious and this is a little worrying. Conversely also, the 'dominant reality' to which we subscribe is largely contrived. However the overall behaviour and tactics and psychology of the 'truther' are not compatible with those of us who live in the 'dominant reality'. I have TRULY discovered the meaning of Orwell's term 'doublethink' because I now DO it for the first time, on the daily. Does that make me schizophrenic? Not necessarily *phew* Explaining how I think is not easy at all, I've not learned to articulate the perpetual irreconcilability. All I can do is advise you, the reader to develop critical thinking and to not subscribe to the toxicity of the dominant reality nor to become a religious devotee of unsubstantiated paranoid delusions. It's a fine line. Great film, lets see more like it. Start learning and kNOWING instead of having your convictions inculcated into you through osmosis (mass media). Other information on these subjects can be found on a podcast debunking conspiracy theories available on iTunes/audio podcasts/history/'the conspiracy sceptic' and I also listened to an short LSE lecture (LSE website) by David Aaronovich about his book 'Voodo Histories'. I do recommend a few listens to Alan Watt at Cutting Through the Matrix (.com) - it's an amazing source of history but be careful with it. It's up to the individual and their philosophy if they have one whether the events are utterly manipulated, inevitable, chaotic, or a combination of all of them. For those who care and are smart they will develop a process of individuation, a philosophy and begin to see with eyes unclouded.
- slanderer12
- Jun 1, 2009
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