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So despite the awful acting, weirdly convoluted plot, oddball accents, and overabundance of running gunfights, this movie is charming and watchable. It takes a bit of lots of other movies, but makes something knock off Cyberpunk and fun. Not a good movie by any means, but not the worst POS on the planet either.

"Nemesis" is a mixture of incoherent plotting (with rehashed bits from "Robocop" and "Terminator"), brainless action sequences, distracting accents and sarcastic wisecracks spouted by leading man Olivier Gruner, who comes off as a cut-rate version of Van Damme. By all means, it should be a pretty bad film, and maybe it is, but it's nevertheless always watchable and never outright boring. The pacing is continuously fast and the energy level high. (**)

Footnote: If you watch the film, look out for Merle Kennedy who plays Max, the hero's sidekick in the last 20 minutes or so. I loved the athleticism she brings into her small role. What an incredible body! Why hasn't anyone else mentioned her presence??

Albert Pyun really likes making movies about cyborgs. His entire career as director owes everything to THE TERMINATOR and ROBOCOP, as he seems obsessed by throwing in as many special effects of half-human half-robot creations as possible into his movies. This post-apocalypse action outing is no different, as it sees Olivier Gruner (the poor man's Van Damme) battling an endless succession of cyborgs who seem to have it in for him. The plot of this film is somewhat ridiculous, and the running time seems to entirely consist of robotic people being shot at or blown up.

Still, something stopped me turning it off, and towards the end I realised something odd: I was actually enjoying this movie. It may be the fast-pacing or the cheesy earnestness of the special effects, but I think this may be Pyun's best movie yet; at least it's one you can sit through without succumbing to boredom. The low rent effects are cheap and dated looking, but I got a real kick out of seeing them and especially the effort (if not originality) having gone into their creation. Take, for instance, the preposterous, ambitious climax, in which our hero battles a robotic skeleton hanging off the back of a plane. It's an obvious attempt to recreate and outdo the climax of The Terminator that fails on every level, but it's still hugely entertaining.

Although Gruner is never more than a solid block of wood as this film's hero, Pyun has assembled quite the supporting cast of B-movie players. There's Tim Thomerson, voraciously chewing the scenery as a corporate bigwig, and an oddly underused Brion James struggling with an appalling German accent. Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa is there as another sneering example of brutality and even RETURN OF THE LIVING DEAD's Thom Mathews makes a brief showing as a robotic assassin. Yes, the film may be trite, ill-conceived, ludicrous and a rip-off, but it actually has style – and I found it more entertaining than Richard Stanley's much-talked-about HARDWARE.

Celebrate Oliver Gruner's heyday by watching the B-movie masterpiece "Nemesis". It's really pretty good. Gruner may be the poor man's Peter Weller, but he plays his 85% android character with an effective stone face and only shreds of humanity. Tight direction and good special effects also keep it fast moving and fun.

Gruner plays Alex, an undercover cop/cyborg hunter. He becomes involved in a dangerous (and at times confusing) plot that sends him fleeing through an industrial wasteland in search for answers. I was tickled pink by a story that doesn't count on cheesy, cop-out twists to maintain its excitement, but simultaneously delivers the goods of a sci-fi and action movie. It lovingly references the movies it takes from, also- which include "Terminator", "Robocop", and "Blade Runner" which keep it on the respectable side of generic. Director Albert Pyun creates a slick neo-noir atmosphere which extenuates the story.

And the action scenes. Oh, the action scenes. Hit and miss Pyun is in top form- using high-tech, but refreshingly not over the top, weaponry and beautiful urban sets. The shoot-outs are imaginative and never redundant or trite. Don't miss the apartment shoot-'em-up where Gruner shoots at the floor spiraling as to create a hole for him to drop down, which he continues to do for two more floors. As if this wasn't cool enough, Pyun uses a Raimi-esquire shot that stays on Gruner's head as he drops through the building. Yes, 10 years later "Underworld" implemented this idea in a more popular film, but I hardly think it did so in better form. There are great stunts, focused direction and good acting to keep it unrelentingly fun.

"Nemesis" does need work, don't get me wrong. As Pyun demonstrated in his 1997 disaster "Mean Guns", he has a hard time tapping into his characters and material which makes things seem distant, confusing and at times impenetrable. He has a difficulty capturing transitions adequately, which obscures some of the action scenes.

Most in the audience will be pleased by the film's unlimited sex appeal. The movie creates a fascinatingly erotic connection between the near future and wangled, unrestrained sexuality. Deboarah Shelton is endlessly sexy and gives the movie a raw energy that almost compensates for its distant connection to the material.

I loved "Nemesis". It has a wonderfully distributed blend of science fiction and action. While there may be a brick wall between the audience and any hope of an emotional connection, it is sexy and fun enough to remain a great time.

Don't be fooled by the box art that promises a gritty urban cyberpunk experience. Most of the film's running time takes place in Hawaii - standing in for a low tech, low life Javanese town called Shang Loo - so it looks a little too bright and airy to be cyberpunk to anyone familiar with William Gibson's 'Sprawl'. There are science fiction elements essential to the plot but science fiction fans looking for a tech thriller will be disappointed. This is a generic late 80's / early 90's actioner of a type which has thankfully gone out of style. Lots of explosions, karate fights and expended shell casings strung around a thin, mostly incoherent plot about intrigue in the cyborg population that takes the entire first half of the film to get going. The only compensation seems to be an abundance of stunning women in the cast. The producers must have been owed a favor by a modeling agency or something. Features a rare nude appearance by 1970 Miss USA Deborah Shelton, still looking very hot in her mid-40s, as Julian, a cyborg who has changed sides.

Director Albert Pyun is responsible for some of the most inept movies in the history of cinema. Never mind the action scenes - Even simple dialogue scenes can be mangled and made unbearable with his magic touch. Therefore, it comes as a surprise that "Nemesis" is so eminently watchable. Nice visuals, interesting ideas, evocative cyberpunk mood, good pacing, and a rather shocking grasp of effective action camerawork and editing. I suspect that another director did most of the work on this one, but I've never been able to confirm. All I know is that there are action scenes in here that are genuinely good, to the point where you might think you were seeing the work of a young but talented action stylist. There's even a "shoot through the floor gag" that was ripped off wholesale recently for the Kate Beckinsale vampire/werewolf film, "Underworld".

Of course, keep in my mind that this is a B-film. It's lower budget and the acting isn't that great. But among B-films, it's quite good. As I said, the action is way above average in energy and style. As well, the locations are varied, and it was one of the earliest films to achieve a William-Gibson-esque cyberpunk feel. If that sounds interesting to you, then give Nemesis a rent. BEWARE: Do NOT rent any of the sequels. Pyun regained his usual golden touch for the sequels, producing what may be the most hate-inducing cinema known to man.

Olivier Gruner stars as Alex Rain, a cyborg who has lost all his faith in humanity after barely walking away with his life after a gun fight with terrorists, However his former employers want him back and they want him to get rid of a renegade agent and to insure that he does this deed, they implant a bomb in his heart, not impressed by his former employer's antics Rain goes AWOL and joins the rebels. There are many similarities between this and Pyun's other movie Cyborg. Although where as I remember everyone in Cyborg laughing at the antics on screen, I remember everyone walking out of this one saying how good it was. I however was no fan. I thought the narrative was a bit hard to follow and while the action sequences were well staged, I often found myself distracted by the circumstances surrounding them. (Same thing with Cyborg.) However Nemesis is better than Cyborg, there is more depth in the script however there isn't enough exploring of the depth that could have made this thing great. Indeed there are some very good moments to be found here but had Pyun explored these (Mainly the relationship between Gruner and the renegade agent Jared(Played well by Marjorie Monaghan) as well as Gruner's dilemma to being a cyborg) Nemesis might have really been something. Nemesis has it's fans and I can see why, I just was often bored with the corporate clichés and confused narrative.

Ed note:However it's still way better than any of the sequels, so if you must watch one from this prolific series, see only this one.

* * out of 4-(Fair)

Low-rent "Blade Runner" cyberpunk wannabe is actually better than you'd expect. Olivier Gruner plays a cyborg cop who has to hunt down a former partner before he can give top secret intel to a terrorist group. One of the members of that terrorist group is "Blade Runner" replicant Brion James and another is Tim Thomerson, who himself starred in the very fun "Blade Runner" influenced "Trancers." Director Albert Pyun (who worked with Thomerson again on "Dollman") is a rather talented low budget journeyman director, having made some memorable if not classic genre films including "Vicious Lips," "Sword and the Sorcerer," "Cyborg," and the underrated post-apocalyptic detective film satire "Radioactive Dreams." On the flip side, he's also responsible for the hilariously awful 1990 "Captain America" adaptation. Compared to other prolific schlocky low budget directors, such as Jim Wynorski or Fred Olen Ray, Pyun does have a modicum of flair that makes his direct-to-video flicks a tad more watchable than most. Although his productions are typically hampered by low budgets, actors of limited ability, and sub-par scripts, he reliably manages to make his film visually interesting and compulsively watchable. I wouldn't go as far to say any of his films are great, though "Nemesis" and "Dollman" are close, but they're consistently fun in a cheesy sort of way. With "Nemisis" he's created a fun grungy Hong Kong style version of ""Blade Runner" or "The Terminator," and has a better script and actors than he usually gets, which also includes Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa ("Rising Sun" "Nash Bridges" "Mortal Kombat") and look fast for a young Thomas Jane ("The Punisher" "Boogie Nights") in a small role as Billy. Overall, "Nemesis" is worth watching if you want a fun cheesy low-budget sci-fi outing. FUN FACT! "Nemesis" features a character shooting the floor out from under them in a circle in order to escape his enemies 11 years before it was copied by mainstream vampire/werewolf action flick "Underworld."

Remember the Jean Claude Van Damme movie Cyborg? Well it turned into a franchise that was merged with a series of films called Nemesis.

This technically is the second movie in the series and I can confidently say that I don't understand how the movies are connected at all.

Nemesis unlike Cyborg is not set in a post apocalyptic world, it's just set in a future filled with cyborgs and non-sensical plot lines.

To its credit it does have quite the cast, we have industry veteran Tim Thomerson, Thom "Friday 13th" Mathews, Cary-Hiroyuki "Mortal Kombat" Tagawa, the late great Brion James and a small role for current star Thomas Jane.

Notice I didn't mention lead star Olivier Gruner? That's because he is truly awful.

Surrounded by people considerably more talented than him didn't do him or his character any favours. To make matters worse the plot is a mess and the action though thick and fast is seven shades of crap.

This is a decent length franchise and I do hope they get better than this.

The Good:

Decent cast

The Bad:

Awful accents

Weirdly constructed

Olivier Gruner is just lifeless

Things I Learnt From This Movie:

Second film, I can already tell I'm not going to enjoy this franchise

Giving a Japanese character a (What I can only assume is...) Hawaiian accent is baffling

Olivier Gruner stars as Alex, a cop in the year 2027 who has had many body parts replaced with robotics after assorted scrapes. After retiring from the force, he's assigned by his old boss, Farnsworth (Tim Thomerson) to apprehend a former partner, Jared (Marjorie Monaghan) who's smuggling data to a terrorist group. However, he will learn that things aren't as they seem; he'll come to not only question his identity but wonder where his loyalties lie.

Compared to the other B movies of director Albert Pyun, this does deliver the goods when it comes to the action aspect. It gets down to business in record time, and soon enough there's plenty of gunfire and plenty of explosions. The special effects are for the most part pretty good. Only towards the end do they get rather laughable. Both the production design and the location shooting are excellent. Pyun and company really do create the sense of a world that's gone to hell.

There's a strong accent on sex appeal, with many hot women in the cast (Deborah Shelton is particularly ravishing as Julian) and female *and* male nudity. This has also got one hell of a fun B movie cast, with a couple of familiar faces, some of them Pyun regulars. Some of the acting (and dialogue) are highly stylized, so enjoyment of both is likely to be a matter of taste. Gruner is likeable in the lead, while Merle Kennedy, playing a character named Max Impact, does her best Lori Petty imitation. Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa plays "terrorist" leader Angie- Liv, Yuji Okumoto is a hotel proprietor, Nicholas Guest and a hilariously accented Brion James are Thomersons' colleagues, and Vincent Klyn and Thom Mathews play other baddies. Look for a young Thomas Jane (he's the provider of the male nudity) in a small part and Jackie Earle Haley in a cameo near the end as a technician.

The main problem is the screenplay, by Rebecca Charles, which is rather muddled and Pyun has to work overtime to keep the audience interested in the characters and scenario. Thankfully, the movie does get better as it goes along and it culminates in one hell of a very funny and lively finish.

The undemanding fan of low budget genre efforts such as this should find "Nemesis" agreeable if not remarkable or memorable.

Six out of 10.

Why is Tim Thomerson's presence in the film the "1980's-1990's b-movie" equivelant to the good house keeping seal?

The beginning of this film stinks. It gets worse. It never recovers.

The laserdisk included the "Making Of" which didn't answer the top question: WHY DID THEY BOTHER?!?!?

Ultimately the behind-the-scenes film mentions that this film has it all. When they mentioned Drama they showed a scene from the film with the lead quoting "I can not feel anything anymore."

This is brain-numbing stupidity at it's purest. It's so bad, it's bad.

Oh, man. This one definitely gets me into the way back machine. It was about ten years ago and I was in college. Being a SF fan, I was told by a bud and SF mega-geek (Hey, Reuben) about this movie. So we either popped it into the VCR or saw it on cable. I think it was the VCR - and boom. Nemesis is set in a near future where humanity and machine have begun to merge. Some add on machine parts to make them stronger, faster, or capable of carrying data. And some machines have taken on human appearance, and become human-like androids - cyborgs - further blurring the line between human and machine. Olivier Gruner is Rain, an enhanced cop, watching out for all kinds of new generation criminals, and using his enhancements to try to stay ahead - or at least on par - with the shifting enemies. But then of course he stumbles on something even more sinister than the usual, and it's look out. There are mega over the top gunfights, done in more wild detail because of the low budget, and very little computer generated effects. (Except one scene that others have noted.) Most of it is squibs, sparks and good old fashioned stunt work. Once this one kicks in it ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT let up. Ever. This is one smaller-budget production where the acting, directing, script and frenetic pace combine to make a movie more entertaining and thought provoking that many mega budget SF pics. On top of the action, the script and atmosphere so perfectly evoke a dark, flawed future that other filmmakers should take note. The guy who said it evoked William Gibson's type of dark cyberpunk future was right on the money. It was darn close and had great twists and setting. One reason I took to it was that at the time I was something of a gamer - mostly the Shadowrun series of dark, cyberpunk future. This might have biased me a bit, but I believe that it increased my appreciation of the movie instead. People who dig the newer cyberpunk stuff should check this one out. It does more convincing stuff with less budget and without any obviously fakey CGI. (There is one stop motion shot some have complained about, but at least no one flies around like superman or gets digitally reproduced 1000 times) From the over the top shootouts to good acting by SF legend Tim Thomerson, the ultra cool Merle Kennedy, Deborah Shelton, Gruner himself (with an ultra cool smooth delivery) and a cast that absolutely fits perfectly into their roles and their interactions with each other. This is a movie which achieves a sum greater than the parts, and overachieves from start to finish. People have argued about the later part, but believe me the ending is so cool character wise, that makes up for any other worries. Just a non stop awesome movie that creates atmosphere, features white knuckle action sequences, and creates characters that are believable, bad ass and also people that you end up caring about. If you are a SF buff or even a good movie buff, check it out and you'll be surprised by how well this one hits on all cylinders. Oh, and if you are a cyberpunk fan and dig that stuff, prepare for an awesome depiction of an atmosphere that many other films and other works have tried and failed to capture. Two thumbs way up for this movie, which combines action and character with great settings, overachieves from the get go, and endures as one hell of a fun movie!

'Nemesis' is director Albert Pyun's best film and happens to be the first title I saw from him. It established audiences to Olivier Gruner and features established faces Tim Thomerson, Brion James & Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa. Delivering a mix of sci-fi and action comparable to the original 'Terminator' with similar special fx. Shades of 'Blade Runner' too, but be wary of any scene requiring people to talk.

Alex (Gruner) is an LAPD officer in the year 2027 when humans are at war with cyborg terrorists. On a mission doing battle against them, he's gravely wounded and wakes up to find himself rehabilitated but less than the 86.5% human he once was. He gets his revenge on the person who left him this way, retires, but finds himself down and out once again. Offered a mission by Commissioner Farnsworth (Thomerson) to track down his former cyborg boss and lover Jared (Marjorie Monaghan) who's stolen security plans, he's given an extra incentive to say yes as a bomb has been attached to his heart which is scheduled to detonate in three days time.

The plot is slightly disjointed, but that's made up for by plenty of big guns, big explosions and decent special effects. Gruner gets to wear a bad wig, be burnt out & emotionally despondent while spouting philosophical dialog with his heavy accent. Not to be outdone, Brion James cops some horrible accent as well. Albert Pyun puts some fine locations to good use and provides atmosphere with certain camera shots, setups.

At the end of the day, 'Nemesis' survives on fun action pieces and there's quite a few of them. Working with a decent budget, Pyun gets to showcase some style here and it works out pretty well. I could tell you the movie has been recut in a few alterative versions and it was followed by a bunch of dtv sequels (without Gruner), but that doesn't change the fact that this is the directors pinnacle. It made it to theaters and made a splash on home video and is a decent watch for action fans.

Great opening sequence, full of action, in unusual settings.

Owes a lot to Blade Runner but is all in sunshine in the open air (LA, Rio, Hawaii.)

Some pretty bad acting but a strong central idea, and some of the actors, notably Deborah Shelton and Merle Kennedy (and a guy who plays a Dutch/German baddy whose name I can't find -- help!) overcome the limitations of the script.

Deborah, by the way, has a full frontal nudity scene and she's really toned -- not bad for someone who was born in the same year as me! Definitely a MILF!

I seem to remember her in "Dallas" but this doesn't appear in her filmography. Is this early onset Alzheimers, or has she deleted this from her history?

The director, Albert Pyun, has some interesting ideas, notably shooting down narrowing perspectives. He's Hawaiian himself, and uses some spectacular locations, but it seems to me that with films in this genre you should start with the Big Outdoors and end up in urban landscapes, otherwise it looks cheap.

I couldn't really recommend this film, but if it ends up in your DVD player, don't eject it!

I had never heard of this movie when I first saw it in the store, but the cover looked cool, and the story sounded neat (well, actually I was more interested in the word "Cyborg" on the cover) so I rented it. I really liked it! Lots of action and CYBORGS!! The plot is a bit confusing, and you never really get a hang of it since they never fully explain it in the movie, but after several viewings I think the plot goes something like this:

LAPD Cop Alex Rain is half-human, half-cyborg (don't expect a mean killing machine àlà RoboCop, though) and he has to stop the Cyborgs before they complete their mission to kill all humans one by one and replace them with Cyborg duplicates. Well, Alex Rain goes to some "low tech, s**t hole called Shang Loo" (quote from the movie) and does a bit of killing and shooting. Well actually he does loads of killing and shooting.

Lots of action, and that's always good. The acting is poor, but Oliver Gruner does a good job as our man, Alex Rain! Poor effects, and a better soundtrack wouldn't hurt. But overall its a pretty good movie! 7 out of 10.

Olivier Gruner stars as Alex Rain a cyborg who battles corparate thugs out to control the world, who are also cyborgs, in this over complicated and overall tedious clash of good and evil. Olivier Gruner seems to have been recruited from Jean-Claude Van Damme school, and overall the movie is just plain dull. The actionscenes are also ruined by Albert Pyun's overkill camera movements.

Yes, the movie is cheesy with little plot, but I like it!

Continuous action, naked breasts, monotonous dialogue, guns, kung fu, cheesy special effect...

It has everything expected from a cheesy sci-fi movie, but it manages to pull it off... not bad at all

This is defenitly a B-Movie with a BIG B. Poor acting and strange special effects (pump shotgun who has the behaviour of a Tiger tanks???). Olivier Gruner who plays the leading role, reminds me of a bad Jean Claude Van Damme look a like.When I thought that nothing about this film could get even worse, I saw the scene in the end where we get to see a Terminator look alike cyborg, and that scene made my blood freeze. The makers of Terminator would have laughed to death if they saw that scene, and Terminator was made in 1984. Nemesis is from 1993!!!!!!!!! Although it was not my kind of movie I respect other peoples opinion, but I could'nt help noticing that 20% of the people who has voted for this movie gave it a 10???????? I strongly suggest to avoid this movie if you like good movies :-)

Action? there was precious little action in this piece of crap. Frankly the best damn action in the movie was granny pulling the hand gun out of her shopping bag and blowing away 2 or more of the 'droids'.

It's yet another example of why governments should be careful about writing tax laws. Because it was done simply to make an investment in for tax purposes.

It has no story You don't give a damn about the characters, It was created to lose money in a controlled fashion pure and simple. With this 'loss' to offset things on the investors income taxes it makes it possible for them to keep more money then if they never 'threw it away' in the first place.

Sorry for the poorly writing comment but frankly don't waste your time on this at all.

Alex (Olivier Gruner) is a cyborg working for the police against terrorists - he thinks. When he is told it actually is a fight of robots against human beings, he starts looking for proof. „Nemesis" apparently was successful enough to "inspire" three sequels, all directed by Albert Pyun, too, but starring Sue Price instead of Gruner. That doesn't mean it had a new recipe, though. „Nemesis" takes familiar elements from hits like „Terminator", „Robocop", „Escape From New York" (the time bomb!) etc. (all movies which spawned sequels themselves already) and thus creates an hour and a half of breathless action - in the first ten minutes, they spent as much ammo and fireworks as other movies during the whole running time. Simple, but it works. To be fair, there are tries to add a bit of depth when Alex wonders if he still can feel anything, whether he is able to decide what's wrong and what's right... and one wonderful joke scene when grandma takes a gun to shoot a cyborg and complains an old woman can't safely walk across the street anymore. But that's the occasional slowdowns you require for an action movie before you start the next gunfight. Action is what it is all about, I mean: what do you expect when the leading lady is named Max Impact (Merle Kennedy)? The special effects are much better than in the sequels. I watched the 4 Nemesis movies (which I watched first in the 1990s) again now in chronological order for my reviews and voted 7/7/5/5.

Nice locations. Horrific acting, sketchy sound, pretty awesome for a B scifi flick.

Some of the effects looked very cheesy.

The plot was kinda neat though.

'Nemesis' remains one of the more relentlessly exciting, visually stimulating cyber-punk action-fests of its era, as low budget movie magician, Albert Pyun's ceaselessly combative, Dystopian mind-blower has a searing kinetic quality that the passage of time resolutely cannot mute. This is a ferociously exciting, cinematically trailblazing, audaciously pyrotechnical, blissfully balletic bullet-fest, a kaleidoscopic, galloping gonzo, head-spinning, William Gibson-esque Sci-fi extravaganza which demonstratively celebrates, Pyun's masterful command of the camera and his bravura facility for perpetrating some wickedly righteous, eye-boggling Gun-Fu on a mother-trucker's ass!

Set in the not altogether distant future of 2027, our heroically handsome, fight fatigued, morally disillusioned, sharp-shooting, part-Cyborg cop, Alex (Olivier Gruner) finally loses his taste for hunting down renegade, antisocial automatons. During an especially violent confrontation which annihilates yet more of his barely remaining humanity, Alex decides to quit the force, and after a lengthy, painful convalescence he avidly craves the elusive solace of retirement his altogether duplicitous, black-suited boss, Farnsworth (Tim Thomerson) has absolutely no intention of granting him!

Ostensibly coerced into a desperate suicide mission on the notorious outlaw island of Shang Loo where the sinisterly seething volcano is his least volatile adversary! Alex's frantic descent into the nakedly murderous, internecine power struggles between man and machine provides plentiful examples of, Pyun's exhilaratingly inventive filmmaking prowess, with some of the outrageously flamboyant action sequences having a uniquely jaw-dropping, serotonin-enriched quality of a John Woo or Ringo Lam in full flight!

Technical aspects of this preternaturally dynamic actioner are consistently outstanding, making much of the cookie-cutter action schmaltz of today look like the myopic, palsied fumblings of a diabetic dotard! There is an uncommonly vivid vitality to the performances and an illicit, hyperbolic charge to the brilliantly mounted action that acts like an intravenous shot of alien adrenalin directly into the boggling optics, and Oliver Gruner's snake belly cool cybercop remains one of cult cinema's finest anti-heroes. Look up 'most underrated dude' on Wiki and you will, sadly, see the sublime visage of, Olivier Gruner. Look up '5 of the most righteous action movies of the 90s', and if it doesn't include 'Nemesis' then you are in the errant company of egregious imbeciles. Hell!!! If your boyfriend/girlfriend/special furry Llama friend doesn't dig 'Nemesis' as much as you do, leave 'em, as they don't deserve your enlightened ass!