14 reviews
I watched this film with a particular perspective on the subject and I have to admit I very much liked the treatment of the story. One viewer comments that this film is supposed to be a true story. I can say that it absolutely is true. The young man in the story is my first cousin and his family is my family. The setting was changed, but the events were actually very faithfully represented. I will commend Ms. Lucci for not playing the character as a parody, but playing the role with as much depth as she did. It might otherwise have cheapened the struggles that family had faced prior to, during, and after those terrible events.
- dramateacherworship
- Feb 17, 2005
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The main story revolves around Patrick Van Horn ("Swingers") (although
his career never took off like Jon Favreau). He is very sympathetic as
the young man who gets in over his head and has an affair with the
local society matron, Susan Lucci. Lucci looks lovely as ever, and it
is hard to believe she hasn't really gotten the chance at any similar
roles in legitimate film, at least in the 80's and 90's, when she was
at the height of her career.
Even if you are not a major soap fan, you may enjoy this movie. Susan Lucci as the bored wife of Barry Bostwick (he has played many of these roles) becomes involved with Van Horn, and then unceremoniously dumps him at the end of the summer. She gets a restraining order against him, and he begins to become obsessive.
This is another based on truth Lifetime feature. Truth really is stranger than fiction. 7/10
Even if you are not a major soap fan, you may enjoy this movie. Susan Lucci as the bored wife of Barry Bostwick (he has played many of these roles) becomes involved with Van Horn, and then unceremoniously dumps him at the end of the summer. She gets a restraining order against him, and he begins to become obsessive.
This is another based on truth Lifetime feature. Truth really is stranger than fiction. 7/10
- MarieGabrielle
- Oct 17, 2006
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This is Susan Lucci at her very best - a rich, bored wife of a philanderer who amuses herself by seducing the young men at the country club, one boy toy per summer. The problem is, this guy takes her seriously. This is one of those fun TV movies that borders on high camp, the kind of film made often in the '80s and done too rarely today! But Lucci lends herself to this kind of thing so when you see her name on a TV movie, you can bet it's going to be watchable and entertaining. In this film, the object of her affections is a sympathetic character. I found myself taking his side during certain points in the film. The ending is over the top, but I understand this is a true story. Lesson: you're dealing with out of control hormones, anything can happen.
I remember watching this movie in my twenties, it was awesome it really makes you think. Usually roles like this, it'll be a man playing with the minds of young girls. It was really different to see the roles reversed, to have a woman taking advantage of this young man. When one man falls seriously in love with her, she realizes she played with the wrong guy! And things are really get ugly!
Susan Lucci seems to specialise in playing cougars. (To avoid confusion I should perhaps point out that I am using that word in its metaphorical sense, not its literal zoological one. La Lucci has a rather limited range as an actress, and impersonating an individual of the species Puma concolor probably does not lie within it). In the last of her films which I saw, "Seduced and Betrayed", she plays a wealthy older woman who seduces a handsome, much younger man. And in "Between Love and Hate", made two years earlier, she also plays a wealthy older woman who seduces a handsome, much younger man.
The main difference between the two films is that in "Seduced and Betrayed" it is the young lover, a married man, who wants to break off the affair, whereupon Lucci's character Victoria turns nasty. In "Between Love and Hate" it is Lucci's character Vivian, a married woman, who breaks off the affair under pressure from her husband, even though he himself has frequently honoured his marriage vows more in the breach than the observance. (The husband is played by Barry Bostwick, like Lucci an actor who seems to turn up in every TV movie). Not that Vivian does not have previous form herself. She makes a habit of seducing, then dumping, a new toyboy every summer. The problem is that on this occasion the young man, a college student named Matt, refuses to take no for an answer.
In "Seduced and Betrayed" I felt that the moral boundaries were too sharply drawn. Victoria was so obviously selfish and manipulative, using her wealth, beauty and influence to snare her victim Dan, that it was impossible to feel any sympathy for her. In "Between Love and Hate" things are, or should be, more nuanced. Although Vivian is just as selfish and manipulative as Victoria, it is she who becomes the victim and Matt the perpetrator of violence. It should, therefore, be possible to sympathise to some extent with both parties, with Matt as a young man driven to extremes by Vivian's thoughtless emotional cruelty and with Vivian as a woman who suffers far more than she deserves as a result of that thoughtlessness.
The trouble is that a storyline like that demands higher standards of acting than those normally found in run-of-the-mill TV movies. Lucci, admittedly, is better here than she was in "Seduced and Betrayed", largely because in that film she had to convey violent emotions which seemed beyond her range. In "Between Love and Hate", Vivian is an entirely shallow character to whom strong emotions of any sort, whether of love or hatred, appear entirely foreign, so Lucci copes much better with the task of playing her. Patrick van Horne as Matt, however, seems so wet and spineless that it is hard to imagine him suddenly transformed by raging passion into a violently unstable individual. Although van Horne was 24 when the film was made, his character is only supposed to be 19 and he comes across as younger still, more like a wet-behind-the-ears schoolboy than a college undergrad. (David Charvet, who played Dan in "Seduced and Betrayed", was 23 at the time but looked rather older).
Like many TV movies, this one is a fictionalised dramatisation of a real-life case. Given the emotions and human drama involved, it should have been possible to have turned the story into an engrossing film. Unfortunately, as with many TV movies, this one appears to have been made by film-makers and actors who imagine that the only skill needed to turn real-life events into a great film is the ability to alter the names, dates and places in an old newspaper cutting. 4/10
The main difference between the two films is that in "Seduced and Betrayed" it is the young lover, a married man, who wants to break off the affair, whereupon Lucci's character Victoria turns nasty. In "Between Love and Hate" it is Lucci's character Vivian, a married woman, who breaks off the affair under pressure from her husband, even though he himself has frequently honoured his marriage vows more in the breach than the observance. (The husband is played by Barry Bostwick, like Lucci an actor who seems to turn up in every TV movie). Not that Vivian does not have previous form herself. She makes a habit of seducing, then dumping, a new toyboy every summer. The problem is that on this occasion the young man, a college student named Matt, refuses to take no for an answer.
In "Seduced and Betrayed" I felt that the moral boundaries were too sharply drawn. Victoria was so obviously selfish and manipulative, using her wealth, beauty and influence to snare her victim Dan, that it was impossible to feel any sympathy for her. In "Between Love and Hate" things are, or should be, more nuanced. Although Vivian is just as selfish and manipulative as Victoria, it is she who becomes the victim and Matt the perpetrator of violence. It should, therefore, be possible to sympathise to some extent with both parties, with Matt as a young man driven to extremes by Vivian's thoughtless emotional cruelty and with Vivian as a woman who suffers far more than she deserves as a result of that thoughtlessness.
The trouble is that a storyline like that demands higher standards of acting than those normally found in run-of-the-mill TV movies. Lucci, admittedly, is better here than she was in "Seduced and Betrayed", largely because in that film she had to convey violent emotions which seemed beyond her range. In "Between Love and Hate", Vivian is an entirely shallow character to whom strong emotions of any sort, whether of love or hatred, appear entirely foreign, so Lucci copes much better with the task of playing her. Patrick van Horne as Matt, however, seems so wet and spineless that it is hard to imagine him suddenly transformed by raging passion into a violently unstable individual. Although van Horne was 24 when the film was made, his character is only supposed to be 19 and he comes across as younger still, more like a wet-behind-the-ears schoolboy than a college undergrad. (David Charvet, who played Dan in "Seduced and Betrayed", was 23 at the time but looked rather older).
Like many TV movies, this one is a fictionalised dramatisation of a real-life case. Given the emotions and human drama involved, it should have been possible to have turned the story into an engrossing film. Unfortunately, as with many TV movies, this one appears to have been made by film-makers and actors who imagine that the only skill needed to turn real-life events into a great film is the ability to alter the names, dates and places in an old newspaper cutting. 4/10
- JamesHitchcock
- Mar 23, 2012
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The main story revolves around Patrick Van Horn ("Swingers") (although his career never took off like Jon Favreau). He is very sympathetic as the young man who gets in over his head and has an affair with the local society matron, Susan Lucci. Lucci looks lovely as ever, and it is hard to believe she hasn't really gotten the chance at any similar roles in legitimate film, at least in the 80's and 90's, when she was at the height of her career.
Even if you are not a major soap fan, you may enjoy this movie. Susan Lucci as the bored wife of Barry Bostwick (he has played many of these roles) becomes involved with Van Horn, and then unceremoniously dumps him at the end of the summer. She gets a restraining order against him, and he begins to become obsessive.
This is another based on truth Lifetime feature. Truth really is stranger than fiction. 7/10
Even if you are not a major soap fan, you may enjoy this movie. Susan Lucci as the bored wife of Barry Bostwick (he has played many of these roles) becomes involved with Van Horn, and then unceremoniously dumps him at the end of the summer. She gets a restraining order against him, and he begins to become obsessive.
This is another based on truth Lifetime feature. Truth really is stranger than fiction. 7/10
- MarieGabrielle
- Oct 17, 2006
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- davidclarke1
- May 16, 2006
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please please please. all i want to know is where can i buy this film. i saw it on TV about 13 yrs ago. recorded it on to a video tape but changed to a DVD player. OK I've managed to get this far and now have got to manage ten lines to edit my views. its a great age gap love lust film and i really do want to buy this. have spent no end of time searching everywhere but can i actually find it for sale ..no nowhere. whats the good of telling us who stared in this film,the year it came out and the producers name but no information as to where it can be bought.mmmm think of more to say 9th line now! believe me I've looked on ebay.amazon,everywhere,all that keeps coming up is the fine line between love and hate.. oh good managed the 10th line. hope someone will reply to me now!
What more can you say with regards to Susan Lucci...
Isn't She the epitomy of seduction, class and loveliness...
Whatever role Susan plays or is a cast member; she makes shine. All her movies are watchable with no worries with regards to profanity or smut!
Oh, and the other reviewers that slate her performances, could you do better?
Keep the lights burning Susan!!
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
- carmenjulianna
- Feb 13, 2021
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If you enjoy seeing Susan Lucci camp it up weekdays on "All My Children" then you simply must catch this film on one of its fairly regular airings on the Lifetime Channel. Watch as over-the-top drama-queen Lucci delivers such wonderfully delicious lines as "...you're tearing yourself apart over something that can never be..." to an obsessed teenager she's recently had an affair with. Scandalous!!!
- josephbrando
- Apr 7, 2001
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This is a role Susan Lucci has patented. She comes off as being very seductive, but turns out to be a tease to a young guy that thinks he's in love. It turns out, that she's bitten off more than she can chew. (No pun intended!) ** out of ****
- snowdog071
- Apr 11, 2001
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- agbakpenree
- Oct 15, 2022
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