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I'm shocked at how few people have seen this film and voted on it. I agree completely with Leonard Maltin's 4-star summary. It's not only a documentary on the lives of two of gospel's founders, Willie Mae Ford Smith and Thomas Dorsey, but it follows them and their families, along with other gospel singers, in the present day.

In some ways, it reminds me of HOOP DREAMS. In one scene, Zella Jackson Price is feeling insecure, talking over serious family issues in the kitchen. And then she's in church, belting out "I'm happy just to know that I'm His child", one of the most powerful, and moving gospel renditions I've heard. And I'm not religious.

As I write this, 2500 people have voted for HOWARD THE DUCK, only 10 for SAY AMEN, SOMEBODY. Something's definitely wrong here.

This film is a surprise and keeps the viewer interested! I rented this out of "professional" curiosity as wanting to check out documentaries. Also the fact that it is now 20 years old made me wonder how it would fly now. Well, time has not dented this film at all. The music is uplifting and the dynamics portrayed between not only family members but the some of the central people profiled (Willie Mae Ford Smith, Thomas A. Dorsey & Sallie Martin) are compelling, if not at times (in the light of human nature), somewhat humorous. As far as bringing gospel music into churches, Ms. Smith and Mr. Dorsey were definitely pioneers. Their struggle was unique, but they kept going and nurtured others who wanted to go this same route.

I first saw this movie on Bravo or A&E and was instantly captivated. I found it a year or so later on VHS and almost wore the tape out. I showed it to as many of my friends and family who would watch it. I am elated to finally see it released on DVD with bonus material and an accompanying soundtrack CD. This is my favorite movie/documentary of all time, bar none. It inspires me, and moves me. People don't sing like that anymore. Mother Willie May Ford Smith is absolutely a joy to listen to and watch. All of the persons featured are amazing. I just wish I could have heard Mother Smith in her prime. Mr. Dorsey is the Father of Gospel and I loved watching him sing and talk. This is Gospel 101. Everyone who aspires to be a Gospel singer should watch this. Everyone who loves history/music should watch this. It is a Master's Class in performance. Enjoy.

Features outstanding performances by Willie May Ford Smith, Thomas A. Dorsey, Sallie Martin, the Barrett Sisters, Edward and Edgar O'Neal and Zella Jackson Price. For anyone interested in real Gospel and not some choreographed Hollywood version, look no further.

This film is simply a celebration of Gospel music as sung by child choirs, as sung by its youngest rising stars and its oldest pioneers, as sung in churches and in kitchens, with musical accompaniment as well as a capella. The careers of Willie May Ford Smith and Thomas Dorsey provide background to explore the development of Gospel through the 20th Century.

We are so lucky to have this record of Thomas A. Dorsey (July 1, 1899 - January 23, 1993) on film. It shows the Father of Gospel Music to be a commanding choir director even at 83 years of age.

A sincere, exuberant experience.

Never have I responded so thoroughly to people in a documentary. I initially became curious about it because of Roger Ebert who rated it so highly.

Now I have it in my collection and whenever I am feeling down, I watch it. In addition to Willie Mae Ford Smith and Thomas A. Dorsey, I love all of the other singers too. In an era when it is possible to feel numb about life, this film and its vivid people help you to process pain and sadness. What survivors! How I would like to meet all of these people. Some of these people are not conventionally pretty, but, oh my! they help you feel again. It is so moving to hear their reminiscences when many are shown later in their lives.

So sadly, many of them are no longer with us. We are all a little poorer without them. That's why we can be so thankful that this film was able to capture what we might have missed. What a terribly sad end to the life of Sallie Martin!

God bless mother Smith and Thomas Dorsey.

We are all richer for them.

Just wanted to say this movie/documentary was on last Sunday, April 20, 2008 and I had not seen it in years. Oh! what a joy it was to see it again. Mother Willie Mae Ford Smith is absolutely wonderful and her performances speaks for it self. What a lady she was & what a voice. The movie @ times is very funny especially the scenes with old "crusty" Sallie Martin & Mother Smith discussing when the 1st convention was and the look Mother Smith gives is to funny. The scenes in St. Louis, Mo are so familiar to me since I was born and raised in St. Louis. The scenes at the old Union Station (I remember when it was run down and dilapidated like that) and I later worked there after they remodeled it @ the Omni/Hyatt Hotel, and I also visited the church where they had the tribute to Mother Smith. My favorite parts are Delois Barret Campbell and her sisters singing and the scene with her selfish husband, Mother Smith @ the nursing home singing (her daughter Bertha could really belt out the tunes on that old piano), Mother Smith singing with her children "I'll Never Turn Back" and the scene at the end is the most poignant of all when Mother Smith sings the finale. Oh! overtone I hear her singing that song talking about being moved, the holy spirit gets in me and the tears flow and flow and I get so happy. I recommend that if you ever are feeling low, sad or lonely, buy or rent this movie and I am sure you will feel 100% better.

March 30, 1983 "Say Amen, Somebody" Four stars

Movies / Roger Ebert "Say Amen, Somebody" is the most joyful movie I've seen in a very long time. It is also one of the best musicals and one of the most interesting documentaries. And it's also a terrific good time. The movie is about gospel music, and it's filled with gospel music. It's sung by some of the pioneers of modern gospel, who are now in their 70s and 80s, and it's sung by some of the rising younger stars, and it's sung by choirs of kids. It's sung in churches and around the dining room table; with orchestras and a capella; by an old man named Thomas A. Dorsey in front of thousands of people, and by Dorsey standing all by himself in his own backyard. The music in "Say Amen, Somebody" is as exciting and uplifting as any music I've ever heard on film. The people in this movie are something, too. The filmmaker, a young New Yorker named George T. Nierenberg, starts by introducing us to two pioneers of modern gospel: Mother Willie May Ford Smith, who is 79, and Professor Dorsey, who is 83. She was one of the first gospel soloists; he is known as the Father of Gospel Music. The film opens at tributes to the two of them - Mother Smith in a St. Louis church, Dorsey at a Houston convention - and then Nierenberg cuts back and forth between their memories, their families, their music and the music sung in tribute to them by younger performers. That keeps the movie from seeming too much like the wrong kind of documentary - the kind that feels like an educational film and is filled with boring lists of dates and places. "Say Amen, Somebody" never stops moving, and even the dates and places are open to controversy (there's a hilarious sequence in which Dorsey and Mother Smith disagree very pointedly over exactly which of them convened the first gospel convention). What's amazing in all of the musical sequences is the quality of the sound. A lot of documentaries use "available sound," picked up by microphones more appropriate for the television news. This movie's concerts are miked by up to eight microphones, and the Dolby system is used to produce full stereo sound that really rocks the theater. One of the phenomenons during screenings of this film is the tendency of the audience to get into the act. Willie May Ford Smith comes across in this movie as an extraordinary woman, spiritual, filled with love and power. Dorsey and his longtime business manager, Sallie Martin, come across at first as a little crusty, but then there's a remarkable scene where they sing along, softly, with one of Dorsey's old records. By the end of the film, when the ailing Dorsey insists on walking under his own steam to the front of the gospel convention in Houston, and leading the delegates in a hymn, we have come to see his strength and humanity. Just in case Smith and Dorsey seem too noble, the film uses a lot of mighty soul music as counterpoint, particularly in the scenes shot during a tribute to Mother Smith at a St. Louis Baptist church. We see Delois Barrett Campbell and the Barrett Sisters, a Chicago-based trio who have enormous musical energy; the O'Neal Twins, Edward and Edgar, whose "Jesus Dropped the Charges" is a show-stopper; Zella Jackson Price, a younger singer who turns to Mother Smith for advice; the Interfaith Choir, and lots of other singers. "Say Amen, Somebody" is the kind of movie that isn't made very often, because it takes an unusual combination of skills. The filmmaker has to be able to identify and find his subjects, win their confidence, follow them around, and then also find the technical skill to really capture what makes them special. Nierenberg's achievement here is a masterpiece of research, diligence and direction. But his work would be meaningless if the movie didn't convey the spirit of the people in it, and "Say Amen, Somebody" does that with great and mighty joy. This is a great experience.

Say Amen Somebody caught my attention when I found film critic Roger Ebert's 4/4 star review of it. Not only did he give it his highest rating, but he also called it the 8th best movie of 1983.

Christian based movies are my favorite genre of film (The Prince of Egypt and The Apostle are included, Noah and God's Not Dead are NOT), so the acclaim and the subject matter intrigued me.

However, it wasn't available on Amazon for a long time and in most places online it was expensive to get on DVD, due to its rarity. However, the channel TCM (Turner Classic Movies) played it today at Noon Michigan Time as a celebration of Juneteenth. And to TCM, I owe a huge amount of gratitude. This is now one of my favorite documentaries and one of the best religious films I have ever seen.

Say Amen Somebody is a documentary about black Gospel singers (in fact if there WERE any white people in this film, they were in the background), and the focus is mainly on 2 big names in Gospel, Thomas A. Dorsey and Willie May Ford Smith. We hear much of their beautiful music and hear stories about their lives.

One powerful aspect of SAS is the music. In fact, the movie is at its best when the Gospel Singers are performing. Dorsey at one point tells us how he was inspired to write Take My Hand, Precious Lord and how often Gospel music churches sing that now. (On a related note, Elvis made that song quite popular as well.) Near the end, the congregation sings Jesus Loves Me.

My upbringing with church music is more traditional and modern worship, but Gospel music...not so much. As a result, most of these songs were new to me. I'd have to listen to the music more for it to be stuck in my head, but I did enjoy many of the songs, such as Jesus Dropped The Charges and I'm His Child.

When there isn't any singing- something you would expect MORE of in a music documentary, we hear the life stories of Dorsey and Smith, and a few other Gospel singers. Especially near the end, when Dorsey needs a walker and his health deteriorates and must decide if he is going to be able to attend a Gospel convention. SAS is proof that documentaries can be as much of an effective drama as a movie with a narrative.

SAS is also well paced, and time flies. It's only 100 minutes long, but it seemed to be only an hour or so. I was so invested that time wasn't an issue in any way.

The film is also very joyous and uplifting. Ebert even began his written review by calling it "The most joyous movie I've seen in a long time." The singing and conclusion are such a delight that I even wanted to stand up with my hands in the air. Non-Christians could possibly see this movie and praise God due to how infectious the mood of the film is.

Say Amen Somebody is therefore a joyous and uplifting documentary that needs more attention. Even if you are not a Christian, I still highly recommend it, because as long as you have emotions, religious belief is not required to thoroughly enjoy and be moved by this movie.

TCM- please play this more (on Easter would be awesome), and I hope it sells more on Amazon. Simply put, see this movie, somebody!

Certain reviews (not on this website) misled me about this film and so I was expecting a great concert of up-tempo Gospel music. That's what I got it for - the music. The advertisement said, "jubilant, revitalizing musical."

Well, there are songs in here but they don't last long. Mostly, this is a documentary on Willie Mae Ford Smith and Tomas A. Dorsey, pioneers in black gospel music. They are wonderful people - solid Christians - but the documentary, quite frankly, is boring.

If one is a big fan of these two, it might be a jewel, but to fans who simply want a concert of gospel music, this isn't it.

Documentaries really don't get much better than this. It's a look behind the scenes at a world few (particularly white) viewers get to see unless it appears on a religious TV show if you like in a town with a black population. We see the lives and performances of two gospel greats, Willie May Ford Smith and Thomas Dorsey. The documentary follows their lives from the early days and leads up to a big conference when the two dynamic subjects share an auditorium. The documentary shows the joy of gospel music in an age of cynicism. We feel the purity of expression here and see very little of the commercial trappings we see in so much of organized religion. People are singing because it feels good! People are responding to these singers because it feels good! People are saying amen because it feels good! Recommended as an antidote to the blahs.

What a beautiful, enjoyable film! This movie is a great surprise - inspirational, uplifting, spiritual and very, very real. Here we see the lives of dedicated gospel singers, their talents dedicated to their great faith. No screenwriter could have captured this, and the film not only holds your interest, it captivates you with dazzling footage and revelations.

This is no documentary, this is a solid view of amazing people. And the music get you moving! It isn't "churchy", and if the soundtrack doesn't have you shouting "hallelujah", you're probably not alive!

"Say Amen Somebody", deals with almost all the problems you can expect in life, and how these real people took care of their business. Every song makes you think about how real they are in your life. If you are feeling down, and want to "have church" in your own home, the get full of the spirit, with this movie. I try to reach for this movie anytime I need a reason to think about how blessed I am. I sing along with the singers and I leave this world, with all of its troubles. I feel I am out in space somewhere, and it is just God's party! In this movie, God gives a great party, and all you have to do is rent or buy the movie and have the best time of your life. The singers/saints will live forever, and this movie has some very comical moments, yet still makes you reflect on your own life. "Say Amen Somebody."

It's an idiosyncratic portrait of the history and state of gospel music, centered in interviews with Willie May Ford Smith, her family, and those around her. She speaks of Thomas Dorsey, one of the founders of gospel,

Speaking as someone with no religious feeling at all, I found it a telling and moving film about. People with belief. It's so carefully edited and shot you can see the points where they reshoot: an obvious argument about Mrs. Smith's proposed international tour is toned way down into a reasonable discussion, and a dispute about where the first gospel convention took place turns into a calm statement of positions. However, the music is great, and the final sequence, in which Mrs. Smith leads the chorus, shows an outbreak of Dionysian ecstasy that should be the model for the word 'Dionysian'.

My review was written in October 1982 after a New York Film Festival screening.

"Say Amen, Somebody" is a superb documentary feature about the key progenitors of gospel music. Directed by George T. Nierenberg and his team of collaborators have fashioned a model of emotional communications in the non-fiction feature realm, deserving of the widest possible exposure in all media.

In contradistinction to 20th Century Fox''s "Gospel", a well-regarded performance film also headed for the marketplace, "Say Amen" emphasizes the people who sing (and live) the gospel, with the music itself featured amidst footage of their home life and recollections.

Two towering figures are at the film's core: "Mother" Willie Mae Ford Smith (with her family) and Thomas A. Dorsey. Both were instrumental five decades or so ago in bringing the rhythmic "ragtime" form of secular music called gospel into the spiritual church environment, over the resistance of religious figures. Important for the film, both are natural spellbinders in conversation (and in song), communicating colloquially to the camera with an uncanny mixture of humor and emotional fervor.

Nierenberg minimizes his reliance upon still photos and vintage footage, including a performance of the late Mahalia Jackson for historical purposes. Dorsey expounds on the tough early days of his music, his career as a popular blues singer and his writing of standard gospel songs. In a delightful scene, he is upstaged by Smith and his 87-year-old singer/accompanist Sallie Martin, as the women argue over whether the first gospel choir convention originated in Chicago or St. Louis.

Also revealing and moving are scenes of Smith and her family, recalling the old days and pointing up the deep religious faith of gospel practitioners. Despite the proselytizing of the lyrics, the film does not make a sales pitch but wisely stresses the emotional content over the religious.

Performance footage in churches and at a convention spotlights Dorsey, Smith and especially two younger groups. The Barrett Sisters deliver upper-register close harmonies. Sure to rouse any audience, while the O'Neal twin brothers display a rhythmic style closer to popular music (and discuss in bull sessions the need to "come down the middle" to reach the younger people with their music).

Nierenberg has enough coverage (using a 22:1 shooting ratio) to not only keep the film free of filler but to create pointed inserts to listeners with separate sound sources to match. This expertly underlines the basic call-and-response nature of the music, and the viewer of the film is engaged actively in the proceedings by use of surrogate, on-screen interplay. For example, whether listening to a song or a speaker, Mother Smith invariably will interject a pointed comment or verbal endorsement, with her uncanny timing matched by a camera and mic there to record it. Film's title comes from this responsiveness, as Dorsey in the midst of one of his passionate monologues declares: "Say amen, somebody" to the silent film crew. Despite this call, Nierenberg wisely lets his subjects do the talking, fulfilling his role as chronicler and organizer.

Among the top-notch technical credits, editor Fred Barnes deserves singling out for brilliant execution of the director's concepts. Particularly good is a perfectly-matched cut from Mother Smith privately chanting Dorsey's lyric: "Remember me, not just for me but for the work I've done" to her continuing the song in church as the picture's stirring finale. Still awaiting a pickup deal for domestic release, "Say Amen" should sustain a blowup to 35mm and is a clear frontrunner for Academy Award consideration as best documentary.