The Book on Negotiating Real Estate: Expert Strategies for Getting the Best Deals When Buying & Selling Investment Property
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J Scott spent much of his early career in Silicon Valley, where he held management positions at several Fortune 500 companies, including Microsoft and eBay. In 2008, J and his wife Carol decided to quit their corporate jobs, start a family, and focus on real estate investing. In the past ten years, they have bought, built, rehabbed, sold, lent-on and held over $60M in property all around the country. J is also the co-host of The BiggerPockets Business Podcast and the author of four books on real estate investing—including the best-selling pair The Book on Flipping Houses and The Book on Estimating Rehab Costs—which have sold more than 300,000 copies combined and have helped investors from around the world get started with real estate. J currently lives in Sarasota, Florida.
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The Book on Negotiating Real Estate - J Scott
PRAISE FOR
THE BOOK ON NEGOTIATING REAL ESTATE
This is the only book you’ll need to learn the strategies and tactics necessary to ensure you get the BEST deals—and the MOST deals—on your investment property, every time!
—Joe Fairless, Author of Best Ever Apartment Syndication Book
J Scott, Carol Scott, and Mark Ferguson are three of the premier real estate investors in our industry. Their tips and tricks for negotiating great deals are priceless. Read this book and learn from the best.
—Michael Blank, Multifamily Investor, Educator, and Author
Mark Ferguson and the Scotts offer tales from the trenches like no one else in the business, showing investors tips and tricks you could only pick up from years of success. If I had this book starting out, I’d be light-years ahead of where I’m at now. The Book on Negotiating Real Estate is the real deal, and will put you ahead of your, competition saving you money and time in the process.
—Dave Van Horn, Author of Real Estate Note Investing
Another book by J Scott that has had a huge positive impact on my investment business! This book provides clear step-by-step, tactical, and practical systems for negotiating within the real estate industry. J Scott has proven over and over again that he is a master of his craft and his love for sharing with the investor community changes lives for the better, especially mine.
—Tarl Yarber, CEO of Fixated Real Estate
Required reading for all real estate investors! The most important thing in real estate investing is buying and selling properties at prices that will help you lock in a profit—this book will teach you how to do that.
—Jordan Thibodeau, Founder of The Silicon Valley Investors Club
It is refreshing to finally have a blueprint on negotiating real estate from professionals who are out there doing it! J, Mark, and Carol are able to convey their knowledge and experience with ease, and readers will be delighted with the actionable content contained within these pages.
—Jake Stenziano and Gino Barbaro, Founders of Jake & Gino and authors of Wheelbarrow Profits
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The Book on Negotiating Real Estate
J Scott, Mark Ferguson, Carol Scott
Published by BiggerPockets Publishing LLC, Denver, CO
Copyright © 2019 by J Scott
All Rights Reserved.
Publisher’s Cataloging-in-Publication data
Names: Scott, J, 1971-, author. | Ferguson, Mark, 1979-, author. | Scott, Carol, 1971-, author.
Title: The Book on negotiating real estate : expert strategies for getting the best deals when buying investment properties / J. Scott, Mark Ferguson, and Carol Scott.
Description: Denver, CO: BiggerPockets Publishing, 2019.
Identifiers: ISBN 978-1-947200-06-7 (pbk.) | 978-1-947200-07-4 (ebook) | LCCN 2018942992
Subjects: LCSH Real estate investment--United States. | Personal finance. | BISAC BUSINESS & ECONOMICS / Real Estate / General | BUSINESS & ECONOMICS / Real Estate / Buying Selling Homes | BUSINESS & ECONOMICS / Negotiating
Classification: LCC HD1382.5 .S39 2018 | DDC 332.63/24--dc23
Second Edition
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This book is dedicated to the investors and real estate professionals everywhere who spend their days working tirelessly to help solve other people’s problems.
TABLE OF CONTENTS
Preface
Introduction
CHAPTER 1 | Introduction to Negotiation
CHAPTER 2 | Principles of Negotiation
CHAPTER 3 | The Power of Information
CHAPTER 4 | Psychology of Rapport
CHAPTER 5 | Seller Motivation & Leverage
CHAPTER 6 | Opening Bid Considerations
CHAPTER 7 | Your Opening Bid Price
CHAPTER 8 | Terms & Contingencies
CHAPTER 9 | Delivering Your Offer
CHAPTER 10 | Negotiating Tactics
CHAPTER 11 | Concessions Strategies
CHAPTER 12 | Defense & Counter Tactics
CHAPTER 13 | Renegotiation Principles
CHAPTER 14 | Renegotiation Scenarios
CHAPTER 15 | Negotiating the Sale
CHAPTER 16 | Buying from Institutions
Final Thoughts
PREFACE
In the summer of 2015, I was asked to give a presentation at a large real estate meetup in New York City, run by my good friend, Darren Sager. I happily accepted—my kids had never been to NYC, my wife loves the city, and we figured we’d make a vacation out of it.
A few days before the presentation, I still hadn’t decided what I’d talk about. To help generate some ideas, I asked Darren to send an email to his group, asking if there were any topics in particular they’d be interested in hearing about.
The first response I received was, I’d love to learn how to be a better negotiator.
Why hadn’t I thought of that? I had spent more than a dozen years working for some of the biggest companies in the world doing large scale negotiations and this was a topic I knew a good bit about; it was also a topic that was highly relevant to real estate investing. But, other than an article here or there, I had spent a tremendously small amount of time writing about and discussing negotiation.
So, I put together a presentation I called, Ten Things You Can Do Today to Become a Better Real Estate Negotiator.
The goal of that presentation was to provide a short list of basic negotiating strategies that, in about two hours, could turn a novice negotiator into someone who was better than 95 percent of the general public. Given how little the average person knows about negotiating and how little time they spend practicing their negotiating skills, I knew that by implementing some very basic tips, almost anyone could considerably improve their ability to negotiate.
I created my presentation on the train ride up to the city—I have a bad habit of waiting until the last minute for these things—and just sort of winged it
to the group of over 200 investors who had packed the WeWork coworking space where the meeting was being held.
The response was completely unexpected. For several days after the presentation, I received email after email thanking me for delving into a topic that in our business is so important, but is often overlooked or minimized. Even my last-minute PowerPoint slides and unrehearsed talking points apparently didn’t detract from the value of the presentation.
In fact, among the responses were several investors who suggested that I write a book on how to negotiate real estate. So I decided to do just that. But this was a topic that was so broad that I didn’t feel I could tackle it myself. After following the writing and experiences of my investing colleague, Mark Ferguson, for several years, I knew that I wanted him to help me with the book. I also enlisted the help of my wife, Carol Scott— the one person I know who can consistently out-negotiate me.
Between Mark, Carol, and myself, we have completed nearly 1,000 real estate transactions. Mark is both an investor and licensed real estate agent who has flipped over 100 properties, owns more than a dozen rental units, and manages a team of real estate agents who help their clients buy and sell hundreds of properties per year.
Carol and I spent many years in management positions at Silicon Valley tech companies, where negotiating was a staple of the job. In the real estate space, we’ve completed over 250 deals, including buying, selling, building, partnering, and lending on projects across the country.
The three of us credit much of our success in the business world and in real estate to the negotiating skills we’ve acquired over the years, and our goal with this book is to transfer some of that foundational knowledge to the rest of the real estate investor community. If you have any more questions, please find us hanging out in the BiggerPockets.com forums or read any of our blog posts on the site. We hope that all who read this book will achieve greater business success from it!
J Scott
INTRODUCTION
Ask most people to define negotiation,
and the typical response you’ll receive is that negotiation is a haggling between parties—each making their case, listening to the other side present theirs, and both sides trying to eventually reach an agreement.
While that back-and-forth part of the negotiation process is most certainly important, good negotiators realize that it’s actually the culmination of a lot of upfront work and preparation. And not only upfront work—real estate deals can be unusual in the sense that negotiations often get revisited after an agreement is reached, when something goes wrong, like a bad inspection or appraisal.
It’s when you can successfully navigate each piece of a negotiation— the upfront preparation, the haggling between parties, and then keeping the deal together when it hits a last-minute snag—that you can call yourself an expert real estate negotiator.
The goal of this book is to get you there.
To give you an idea of how we’ve organized this book, let’s take a look at how a real estate negotiation typically flows:
Because each of these parts of the process is so important to the overall success of a negotiation, we’ve attempted to present our information in an order that replicates the flow you see above.
Planning, Preparation, & Research
The real estate negotiation process typically begins long before an offer is made or the haggling starts. In fact, it often begins before you even meet or talk to the other party in the transaction. This is the time when you’ll be gathering all of the external information you’ll need to achieve a successful negotiating outcome.
Diligent negotiators will use this time to try to get as much information about the property, the neighborhood, the local market, the other party, any agents/appraisers/lenders involved in the transaction, etc. It’s often said that whichever party comes into the negotiation most prepared is the party likely to get the best result.
This can’t be overstated. While knowing lots of strategies and tactics to persuade and influence the other party may give you an advantage in a negotiation, even a novice negotiator should be able to outmaneuver their opponent
if they are better prepared and have more information about the transaction being negotiated.
We’ll talk a lot more about planning, preparation, and research in Chapter 3.
Building Rapport & Determining Motivation
When it comes to preparation for your negotiation, there is one source of information that is more valuable than all the others combined—the other party himself. (For the sake of expediency, in this book we’ll randomly assign gender.) At this stage, your goal is to build trust and rapport with the person you’ll be negotiating with, and to use that budding relationship to gather information about his motivations and needs. This information will form the foundation of your negotiating path.
There is a deep psychology behind bonding with other people to build trust and rapport, and anyone can do it if they learn the basic skills and techniques. Once you learn these skills and put them to use early and often in your negotiating communication, you’ll find that you can gain the information you’ll need to ensure a successful negotiation outcome for both sides.
We’ll spend Chapter 4 discussing the techniques behind building rapport and how to do it most effectively, and then in Chapter 5 we’ll reveal how to put those techniques into practice to start getting important information from the other party.
Making an Initial Offer
Once you have all the data you need to make and support your side of the negotiation, it’s time to put together an offer. This is where you will organize the information you’ve gathered, solidify your goals, and assemble a first proposal that will lay the groundwork for the bargaining period.
At the same time, the other party will likely be defining their goals for the transaction—though they may not be doing it in the same organized and systematic fashion you are. Part of your challenge is to determine what they are thinking (assuming they are thinking) and how they might react to your first offer.
We’ll spend Chapters 6 through 9 exploring the strategic aspects behind creating your initial offer and the best practices for making and communicating that offer to the other party.
Bargaining
Once an offer is made, the actual haggling begins. This is the back-andforth discussion that—hopefully—allows both sides to move toward a successful compromise. During this time, the parties will be making offers and counteroffers, trading concessions (we’ll talk about those soon), revising their strategy based on what they are learning from the other party, dealing with hiccups (stalls
) in the discussion, and trying to keep momentum toward the goal of a mutually agreeable deal.
Depending on the circumstances, this process may take place face-to-face or by using real estate agents as intermediaries. The whole discussion may take just a few minutes, start to finish, or, it may take several days, weeks, or even months. The process may even start and stop several times should either or both parties not feel that a reasonable outcome is possible.
In Chapters 10 and 11, we’ll discuss the strategies and tactics you—as the buyer—should be using to get the bargaining started and how to keep it moving forward. We’ll discuss the techniques you can, and should, be using to control the negotiations and ensure your interests are best served, while also maintaining a balance of power that will allow the other party to walk away satisfied as well. And, in Chapter 12, we’ll review how to defend against tactics that might be used against you.
In Chapter 15, we’ll explore strategies and tactics you should be using when you’re the seller in the transaction. In Chapter 16, we’ll talk about how to achieve these same results when buying from an institutional seller, like the government or a bank.
Renegotiating
The next phase of many real estate transactions involves "renegotiation." This part of the process is somewhat unique to real estate deals, and results from any contingencies that are likely part of the initial agreement.
Contingencies are actions that generally must occur before the transaction is finalized—for example, an inspection of the property. In many cases, the outcome of the contingency will require renegotiation of the contract, such as when an inspection turns up something troubling.
Contingencies can put deals at risk, and good negotiators will have a plan for handling this renegotiation process should a contingency issue arise. We devote the entirety of Chapters 13 and 14 to discussing all aspects of renegotiation, including how to ensure that it doesn’t sink your deal, and even how—when necessary—to use renegotiation to get more out of the deal than you had originally negotiated.
Settlement
The settlement is the culmination of a real estate deal, where final papers are signed and the transaction is finalized. Typically, by this point, both sides are satisfied with the terms of the agreement and things conclude quickly and smoothly. But, occasionally, issues will arise at the conclusion of the transaction.
By the time you have completed this book, you should have an arsenal of tactics and strategies at your disposal to attack any last-minute issues head-on.
CHAPTER 1
INTRODUCTION TO NEGOTIATION
Negotiation.
It’s a simple word that, in many people, elicits a strong emotional response. For some, it strikes a chord of terror and anxiety; for others, it produces a gleeful sense of anticipation. For many people, the idea of negotiating is something that only takes place at UN Security Council meetings and in corporate boardrooms among high-powered businessmen—though some of these people are reluctantly willing to embrace the idea of negotiating every few years by asking for a raise at work or buying a new car, if they really have to.
While negotiation does encompass all of these major life activities, in reality, we all engage in a variety of negotiations every day across all aspects of life—like trying to get the kids to eat their broccoli, convincing the faceless customer service person on the other side of the phone to send us a refund for the defective product we received, or coming to consensus with your spouse on a paint color for the dining room. And while negotiation may be most associated with big-ticket items—homes, cars, international peace treaties—developing your negotiating skills will serve you well in all walks of life.
After all, every transaction boils down to one simple fact:
When you’re meeting another party at the negotiation table—whether that table
is literally a boardroom table, a seller’s kitchen table, or the paint aisle at Lowe’s—both sides want something, and the goal is to reach a compromise that allows each side to walk away satisfied.
The big question is, How can we best accomplish this?
And that’s the real goal of negotiation.
What We Mean by Negotiation
In an ideal world, after a negotiation concludes, each party is happy with the outcome and each feels he got everything he wanted… or at the very least, everything he needed.
But we don’t live in an ideal world, and in most negotiations both parties aren’t going to walk away feeling like they got exactly what they wanted. In the real world of negotiations, oftentimes the best we can strive for is to get everything we want or need, while giving the other party just enough to satisfy them. Obviously, we’d love for the other party to be thrilled about the outcome as well—especially if we expect that we’ll have to negotiate with them again in the future—but, at the very least, we want them to walk away without any lingering animosity or regret.
In any negotiating situation, there are going to be some things that both parties really want. And there will be other things one side finds important but the other side doesn’t particularly care about. A fair solution, generally speaking, is more than each party simply getting an equal amount out of the agreement.
This is where perception becomes important: In most cases, the parties won’t consider the compromise to be a good one unless they also felt involved and empowered during the negotiation. If the other side felt humiliated or steamrolled during the negotiation, they won’t be satisfied no matter how much they got.
In other words, negotiation is not just about the outcome, it’s about the process.
A Simple Example
Consider, for example, two siblings fighting over the last piece of chocolate cake. Any wise parent knows that, while cutting the cake in half and giving a piece to each child may seem like the most reasonable solution, each child will inevitably end up complaining that the other one got a bigger piece, or more frosting, or less frosting, or... well, you get the idea.
As a parent, how can you negotiate an agreement where both children walk away from this situation satisfied and focused on stuffing their faces with delicious chocolaty goodness, rather than feeling slighted in some way?
Simple: You ask one child to cut the cake into two pieces, while the other child gets the first choice of these pieces. Knowing that his sibling will selfishly take the biggest piece, it’s in the first child’s best interest to divide the cake as equally as possible; the second child will feel empowered as well, as he is able to select whichever piece he deems the best. In the end, even if the pieces of cake aren’t exactly the same, the kids are likely to be more agreeable to the outcome simply because they both actively participated in the outcome.
While this is obviously a very simplified negotiating situation, it’s a perfect example of how negotiation can be used to allow both parties to feel they’ve received a fair deal and feel that they were empowered throughout the process.
Negotiation Outcomes
In negotiation-speak, such an outcome is known as a win-win,
as both parties receive a benefit. But, not all negotiations result in a win-win outcome. As you have probably seen in real life, there are several other possible results of a negotiation:
Win-Lose: Only one party perceives the result of the negotiation as positive. This is how many people feel after negotiating with a car dealer or other high-pressured sales situation. It typically results in the party who feels they have lost in choosing not to negotiate with the winning
party in the future.
Lose-Lose: All parties are worse off after the negotiation. We typically refer to this as a failed negotiation.
Unfortunately, sometimes a negotiation is destined to achieve this result. For example, imagine a divorce or custody battle, where both parties end up in a worse position than when they started. In fact, in these types of negotiations, sometimes the optimal outcome is to ensure that both sides sustain equal loss—in other words, the most successful outcome is equal unhappiness.
Win-Plus: An outcome in which each party feels as they’ve gained more than they expected. While not all negotiations have the ability to achieve this result—especially when both parties want the exact same thing—this can happen more than you may imagine.
Here’s an example of a win-plus negotiation:
A couple years ago, I received a call from a seller who had responded to one of my direct-mail letters. She was selling her father’s house, as he had recently moved into a nursing home. I asked her the address of the property, and because we had recently renovated two other houses in that little subdivision, I immediately knew which house it was.
Without even seeing the property, I had a pretty good idea of what it would cost to renovate. The house was 21 years old, which meant it almost certainly needed a new roof, new HVAC system, and a full cosmetic upgrade. Given the age, the electrical and plumbing were likely fine, and since I was familiar with the exterior of the house (I had driven past it dozens of times), I knew that there were no major issues with location or the exterior of the property.
It sounded like the house had a very similar layout as the other two I had done in that neighborhood. Based on my back-of-the-envelope rehab estimate and what I was fairly certain I could resell the property for, I was pretty certain that I could pay up to about $95,000 for the property—though I’d be more comfortable with a purchase price closer to $90,000.
The woman and I chatted a bit on the phone. Ultimately, she divulged that she would sell the house for $100,000 and not a penny less. Apparently, her father had picked this nice round number as his absolute lowest selling price, and she believed there was no way he’d go any lower than that. I believed her, and I didn’t see any reason to argue or to try to convince her to go against her father’s wishes.
Then I said to her:
Me: "I’ve purchased several houses in your neighborhood. I bought [property address] in April for $86,000. And I bought [property address] last year for $93,000. You can look those sales up in the public records if you want to verify that.
I don’t believe any other investor would be willing to pay $100,000 for your house. It’s just not worth that amount.
But, if your dad is anything like mine, I’m guessing he won’t budge once he gets a price set in his mind. And I can respect that—I’d probably be the same way. This is what I’m willing to do…
I will give you the $100,000 for the property—full asking price—and I can have my attorney complete all the paperwork in the next ten days. You won’t have to make another phone call, you won’t have to clean out the house, you won’t have to do anything.
But, if I’m going to pay a premium on this property, I need something in return to make this work for me—instead of paying you for the house the day I purchase it, I plan to renovate it and resell it and I will pay you the day I resell it. Probably in the next three to six months, but no longer than 12 months from now.
If I’m willing to pay the premium price you ask, are you willing to wait a few months to get your cash?"
Why was I willing to go $5,000 above my highest purchase price?
I knew that if I were to buy the property, I’d probably get a loan from a local bank to cover much of the purchase price. I’d put down 35 percent as a down payment, and I’d be paying about $2,000 in upfront loan costs, plus about $4,000 in interest and other fees on the loan, for a total of about $6,000 in loan costs.
If the woman chose to accept my offer, my down payment would go away (less cash I needed to spend out of my pocket), and I’d be able to eliminate the $6,000 in loan costs. With $6,000 in costs gone,