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Tech Talk: MediaWiki for third parties
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From T153063

For March, the next question in the list would be

What is the priority of making MediaWiki useful for 3rd parties, relative to other WMF goals and investments?

For a proposed June Tech Talk pertaining to 3rd parties I identified these unanswered questions from T153063: Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product Q&A

  1. What is the priority of making MediaWiki useful for 3rd parties, relative to other WMF goals and investments?
  1. How can volunteers bring ideas and influence the WMF annual plans and quarterly goals? (currently when plans are published it's too late)
  1. What vision do you see for MediaWiki and volunteer developers 5 years from now?

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CKoerner_WMF created this task.Feb 10 2017, 5:09 PM
Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. · View Herald TranscriptFeb 10 2017, 5:09 PM
Aklapper added a comment.Feb 10 2017, 7:23 PM

Hi @CKoerner_WMF. Please associate at least one project with this task to allow others to find this task when searching in the corresponding project(s). Thanks!

CKoerner_WMF added a project: Community-Relations-Support (Jan-Mar 2017).Feb 10 2017, 8:12 PM
CKoerner_WMF moved this task from Backlog to March on the Community-Relations-Support (Jan-Mar 2017) board.Feb 13 2017, 3:43 PM
CKoerner_WMF triaged this task as Low priority.Feb 28 2017, 5:00 PM
CKoerner_WMF moved this task from Jan-Mar 2017 to Apr-Jun 2017 on the Community-Relations-Support board.Apr 3 2017, 4:26 PM
CKoerner_WMF edited projects, added Community-Relations-Support (Apr-Jun 2017); removed Community-Relations-Support (Jan-Mar 2017).
CKoerner_WMF moved this task from Backlog to April on the Community-Relations-Support (Apr-Jun 2017) board.Apr 5 2017, 9:38 PM
CKoerner_WMF mentioned this in T163441: Technical Collaboration quarterly check in for April - June 2017.Apr 24 2017, 8:20 PM
Qgil added a parent task: T153063: Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product Q&A.Apr 27 2017, 9:03 AM
Qgil edited projects, added MediaWiki-Platform-Team-Archived, Developer-Advocacy (Apr-Jun 2017); removed Community-Relations-Support (Apr-Jun 2017).Apr 27 2017, 9:09 AM
Qgil added subscribers: srishakatux, Qgil.

@srishakatux is planning to organize T155481: Tech Talk: Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product Q&A (continued) on May. Therefore, this Tech Talk should be scheduled in June.

Which could be packaged with other questions relative to MediaWiki for third parties.

@CKoerner_WMF, can you add 2-3 of these questions in the description, taking them from the prioritized list of questions, please?

Qgil moved this task from Backlog to June on the Developer-Advocacy (Apr-Jun 2017) board.Apr 27 2017, 9:09 AM
Qgil added a comment.Jun 13 2017, 10:25 AM

Ping?

CKoerner_WMF added a comment.Jun 14 2017, 9:17 PM

Sorry, I prioritized other work over this and it fell off my radar. Thank you for the ping. :)

CKoerner_WMF updated the task description. (Show Details)Jun 14 2017, 9:20 PM

@Qgil OK, what's next? :)

Qgil added a subscriber: • Rfarrand.Jun 15 2017, 4:19 PM

@Rfarrand can help you organizing a Tech Talk.

• Rfarrand added a comment.Jun 16 2017, 7:31 PM

Yes - please have the speaker add the following information to this task:

  • their name
  • name of their talk
  • short summary of their talk for publishing
  • length of their talk (45 min with 15 min for questions or 20 min with 10 min for questions)
  • ideal date range
  • ideal time of day
Qgil edited projects, added Developer-Advocacy (Jul-Sep 2017); removed Developer-Advocacy (Apr-Jun 2017).Jul 3 2017, 5:48 AM
Qgil mentioned this in T169739: Technical Collaboration quarterly check in for July - September 2017.Jul 5 2017, 12:37 PM
Qgil moved this task from Backlog to Ready to Go on the Developer-Advocacy (Jul-Sep 2017) board.Jul 6 2017, 9:17 AM
cicalese subscribed.Aug 10 2017, 2:47 PM
CCicalese_WMF subscribed.Aug 10 2017, 7:18 PM
CKoerner_WMF added a comment.Aug 22 2017, 3:24 PM

Cindy Cicalese, the new Product Manager for MediaWiki, will be in the San Francisco offices sometime in September. While dates are yet to be determined, the plan is to host a Tech Talk with Cindy and Victoria to discuss this topic. More information to follow.

Qgil added a comment.EditedSep 5 2017, 9:11 AM

It's September now. :) Can the date of the talk be defined?

CKoerner_WMF reassigned this task from CKoerner_WMF to CCicalese_WMF.Sep 6 2017, 8:55 PM
Qgil mentioned this in T153063: Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product Q&A.Sep 12 2017, 12:53 PM
Qgil added a comment.Sep 19 2017, 9:29 AM

@CCicalese_WMF do you have any updates to share?

CCicalese_WMF added a comment.Sep 20 2017, 2:38 PM

@Qgil My current plan is to schedule this in November.

Qgil edited projects, added Developer-Advocacy (Oct-Dec 2017); removed Developer-Advocacy (Jul-Sep 2017).Sep 21 2017, 4:46 PM
Qgil moved this task from Backlog to November on the Developer-Advocacy (Oct-Dec 2017) board.
CCicalese_WMF moved this task from Inbox to MWPT-Q2-Oct-Dec-2017 on the MediaWiki-Platform-Team-Archived board.Oct 13 2017, 8:09 PM
CCicalese_WMF edited projects, added MediaWiki-Platform-Team-Archived (MWPT-Q2-Oct-Dec-2017); removed MediaWiki-Platform-Team-Archived.
• Rfarrand added a comment.Nov 6 2017, 8:35 PM

Hi @CCicalese_WMF - I am happy to start the scheduling and announcing process for this talk. Are you still interested and able to hold this in November? If yes - we can get started! :)

CCicalese_WMF edited projects, added MediaWiki-Platform-Team-Archived; removed MediaWiki-Platform-Team-Archived (MWPT-Q2-Oct-Dec-2017).Dec 21 2017, 4:10 PM
CCicalese_WMF moved this task from Inbox to MWPT-Q3-Jan-Mar-2018 on the MediaWiki-Platform-Team-Archived board.
CCicalese_WMF edited projects, added MediaWiki-Platform-Team-Archived (MWPT-Q3-Jan-Mar-2018); removed MediaWiki-Platform-Team-Archived.
Qgil moved this task from Oct-Dec 2017 to To triage on the Developer-Advocacy board.Jan 9 2018, 2:44 PM
Qgil edited projects, added Developer-Advocacy; removed Developer-Advocacy (Oct-Dec 2017).
CCicalese_WMF edited projects, added MediaWiki-Platform-Team-Archived (MWPT-Q4-Apr-Jun-2018); removed MediaWiki-Platform-Team-Archived (MWPT-Q3-Jan-Mar-2018).Apr 4 2018, 7:04 PM
CCicalese_WMF edited projects, added Core-Platform-Team-Old; removed MediaWiki-Platform-Team-Archived (MWPT-Q4-Apr-Jun-2018).Jul 11 2018, 10:52 PM
CCicalese_WMF moved this task from Inbox to Backlog on the Core-Platform-Team-Old board.
Aklapper raised the priority of this task from Low to Medium.Jul 27 2018, 2:17 PM
Aklapper moved this task from To triage to Team radar on the Developer-Advocacy board.
CCicalese_WMF added a project: Platform Team Legacy (Later).Oct 1 2018, 11:38 PM
CCicalese_WMF edited projects, added Core Platform Team Goals (MCR: Uncategorized); removed Core-Platform-Team-Old.Oct 2 2018, 12:34 AM
CCicalese_WMF edited projects, added Platform Engineering; removed Core Platform Team Goals (MCR: Uncategorized).Oct 2 2018, 2:33 AM
CCicalese_WMF moved this task from Inbox to Triage Meeting Inbox on the Platform Engineering board.Oct 2 2018, 2:39 AM
CCicalese_WMF removed a project: Platform Team Legacy (Later).Jul 14 2019, 3:44 PM
CCicalese_WMF removed CCicalese_WMF as the assignee of this task.Jul 30 2019, 7:33 PM
CCicalese_WMF edited projects, added MediaWiki-Stakeholders-Group; removed Platform Engineering.
cicalese raised the priority of this task from Medium to High.Jul 31 2019, 12:21 AM
cicalese moved this task from Needs Discussion to Needs Volunteer (Development) on the MediaWiki-Stakeholders-Group board.
CKoerner_WMF unsubscribed.Dec 12 2019, 4:16 PM
Samwilson subscribed.Feb 4 2020, 11:23 PM
Aklapper lowered the priority of this task from High to Low.Mar 3 2020, 6:34 AM

cicalese raised the priority of this task from Medium to High.

@cicalese: That does not seem to be the case for the last months, so I'm resetting the priority. :)

Aklapper added a parent task: T239255: Wikimedia Tech Talks and Learnings 2020.Mar 3 2020, 6:35 AM
Qgil unsubscribed.Mar 3 2020, 12:56 PM
• srodlund changed the task status from Open to Stalled.Jun 8 2020, 4:25 PM
• srodlund subscribed.

Changing status to stalled b/c there has not been any movement on this in the last two quarters.

Aklapper changed the task status from Stalled to Open.Jun 8 2020, 4:38 PM

@srodlund: The previous comments don't explain who or what exactly this task is stalled on ("If a report is waiting for further input (e.g. from its reporter or a third party) and can currently not be acted on"). Hence resetting task status.

(Smallprint, as general orientation for task management: If you wanted to express that nobody is currently working on this task, then the assignee should be removed and/or priority could be lowered instead. If work on this task is blocked by another task, then that other task should be added via Edit Related Tasks... → Edit Subtasks. If this task requires info from the task reporter, then there should be instructions which info is needed. If this task needs retesting, then the TestMe tag should be added. If this task is out of scope and nobody should ever work on this, then this task should have the "Declined" status.)

• srodlund removed a parent task: T239255: Wikimedia Tech Talks and Learnings 2020.Jun 8 2020, 4:50 PM
• srodlund added a comment.Jun 8 2020, 5:08 PM

To be clear, I would not decline this task, as it seems to be something folks want to do. Rather, it seems stalled because there is no plan for who will do it and when.

For now, I have removed the parent task of Tech Talk 2020, since this task was opened 3 years ago, and there are no concrete plans to do it this year.

Akuckartz subscribed.Jun 14 2020, 4:16 PM
Akuckartz moved this task from Needs Volunteer (Development) to Needs Volunteer (Organisational) on the MediaWiki-Stakeholders-Group board.Jun 20 2020, 7:20 PM
Aklapper lowered the priority of this task from Low to Lowest.Jul 30 2020, 8:48 AM
Akuckartz awarded a token.Jul 31 2020, 8:08 PM
Aklapper closed this task as Declined.Nov 23 2021, 9:59 AM
Aklapper edited projects, added Wikimedia-Tech-Talks; removed Developer-Advocacy.

It looks like nobody plans to do this.

When/if someone plans to do this, please reopen this task and set yourself as assignee - thanks a lot!

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