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Apr 9, 2009 9:58 PM
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Such beautiful pwnage by Mustang; the thing did not even put a scratch on him regardless of what dirty and petty trick was used. Riza gets props as well for holding her own despite only having firearms. next chapter should be intense. though I don't expect Roy too be still hellbent on killing Envy and will listen to his waifu trusted subordinate instead.
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Teeehee, epic chapter is epic. I don't think Riza would shoot Roy, no, she loves him way too much~ Still this part about keeping her promise was great. I just wonder how Riza realized that it was Envy and not Roy... Maybe this trick wasn't really a trick? And yay, there is smexy Havoc~! I missed him. Fight with Envy is amazing, I just hope Arakawa will continue this next month, I don't want to wait two months or so...Roy, listen to Riza and marry her get a hold of yourself!
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I wonder what Ed had in mind with interfering; so much suspense! A totally one-sided battle, but it was entertaining nonetheless. Now for one more month...
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Apr 10, 2009 8:36 AM
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I loved this chapter, it was so awesome. The fight versus Envy was even more epic than I imagined and berserk!Roy was really scary. The relationship between Roy and Riza was so awesome and Riza totally kicked ass. xD The scene where she tricked Envy was really great and when she was pointing her gun at Roy... just awesome.
And I really liked that Ed and Riza were trying to protect berserk!Roy from falling too deep into his revenge and doing a terrible misake.. Somehow those two pwnd Roy at the very end. xD Ed teaming up with Scar... thats some weird thought. xD
Apr 10, 2009 8:47 AM
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I wonder what Ed had in mind with interfering; so much suspense! A totally one-sided battle, but it was entertaining nonetheless. Now for one more month...


I bet its more to keep mustang from going down the path of pure revenge..

Great battle, but it seemed to one sided.. Can't wait for more bigger battles. :)
Apr 10, 2009 8:55 AM
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Wow this really showed how imba Roy's alchemy is, Envy was totally useless in front of it. But this is really a nice twist, I sure did not see ed n riza intervening, wonder how this event will resolve itself
Apr 10, 2009 10:00 AM
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pin-point accurate flame attacks. now thats great. lol.

loved how envy (as mustang) was with riza. give it a vibe that riza was the real envy, but it was the other way around. well it was smart thinking of her to trick envy like that.
Apr 10, 2009 10:05 AM
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Great chapter. Beginning was kinda slow though. I love how Roy didn't really flinch and just kept on attacking. How is Arakawa wrapping this up in the next six at this rate? The dual hand strategy is pretty awesome. One hand for minute and one for large was brilliant. The drawing for Mustang was pretty awesome and he had some great lines like when he burned Envy's tongues. Riza held her own which is more than surprising. Ah delicious revenge.

Next chapter: Fullmetal vs Flame =D
JarmelApr 10, 2009 10:12 AM

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Apr 10, 2009 10:18 AM
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Oh hell yes, this is what I wanted to see; Envy getting blown to pieces. Nice tag teaming by Riza and Roy!
Apr 10, 2009 10:25 AM

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mustang is da shitttt!!!!!!and yea he busted out some sick quotes 2 XP envy doesn't have anything on him!
and riza was pretty awesome 2
royai XP
ahh i can't wait for the next chapter, its going to be intense!
Apr 10, 2009 10:59 AM
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This chapter so made up for the slow/pointless/annoying chapters that came out for the other manga I read this week.

Mustang and Hawkeye live up to their awesomeness. I liked seeing that Mustang could do big blasts AND small precision shots.

It was almost a given that Ed would try to intervene. But I'm a little surprised that Scar came back with him.

Can't wait for the next chapter. Flame vs. Fullmetal! Makes me wonder where Hawkeye is going to side. She's devoted to Mustang, but she was trying to stop him herself so...?
Apr 10, 2009 11:39 AM

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FFFFFF-

Fucking awesome chapter. Mustang's on a rampage and Riza shows us again just how badass she is.

Well, I think Ed, Scar and Riza together will be enough to stop him. I don't think that there'll be too much fighting involved either, especially since Scar is there.Together they'll be able to pull back Mustang for sure.
Apr 10, 2009 11:50 AM

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Loved it, just loved it. Mustang being badass was enough, Hawkeye showing how awesome she is only made it better, and Envy getting owned left, right & center, was the perfect finisher. 10/10!
Apr 10, 2009 12:21 PM

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Th beggining was cool, showing how Mustang's group manipulated the media and the infromation to their advantage soe they would be recognized as the good guys (I loved the "justice" dialog, so accurate with things politicians try to make people believe); but the second part owned hard. Mustang and Hawkeye where really awesome as said before, yet Envy once again escapes anhiliation.
Apr 10, 2009 2:24 PM

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Another epic chapter from FMA XD

It's awesome how Mustang gets so much support (in one way or another).

Not only Mustang, but Hawkeye tanked envy. Guns do work do things these days
Apr 10, 2009 2:39 PM

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EPIC!

nothing less than epic is what this chapter was! it was so great to get to see hughesy again (even if it was greed -it also makes me happy cuz thanks to fma2, i've seen him twice now xD!-)! anyways! it was a kick-ass chapter with so much.... and they're right about roy... it should be someone else that kills greed. i hope it's scar =o! another long wait D=
Apr 10, 2009 2:41 PM

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It's not like they have tanks!

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They even brought a -ARGH!!

Awesome last words
Apr 10, 2009 3:50 PM

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FMA, you are epic. So, my thoughts during this chapter:

i. Don't touch Arakawa-sensei scar.
ii. OMG, Olivier made a spread. Hell yes.
iii. Propaganda, got to love the fact that Roy is abusing it.
iv. hahahaha, they don't need guns aimed at them. reporters and journalists everywhere, gotta love them
v. oh shooooot, he recognizes her voice. must be true love <3
vi. "It's not like they have tanks." "They even brought a-" fufufufufu. ilu fma ❤
vii. "we'll manage." EPIC SHIP IS EPIC.
viii. FRAK
ix. OMG
x. PLEASE DON'T DIE
xi. IF SHE DIES BECAUSE OF YOU
xii. OH HELL NO
xiii. 3:39 PM
xiv. MY FAV CHARACTER
xv. hehehehe, pwned
xvi. Riza, you're my hero.
xvii. Don't touch Riza, bitch. Just don't.
xviii. lololol, told you.
xix. I'm on Riza's side. Always. So....
xx. EDWARD ❤❤❤❤❤❤
xxi. I MEAN, uh, Edward. Thanks for that. *cough*

Roy gets major points for being so awesome, but he needs to chill a bit at the end.
adamantineApr 10, 2009 3:54 PM

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Apr 10, 2009 5:46 PM

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Mustang is such a MOTHERFUCKING BADASS!!! HIS RAGE IS ALL CONSUMING, INFECTIOUS!!! I WANT TO RAGE WITH HIM!!!!!
Apr 10, 2009 6:10 PM

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Best chapter ever. If I could give it 100/5 it wouldn't be enough... Epic! From the first to the last page.
Roy ♥
Ed ♥
And Riza was sooo awesome. Poor Envy though, "damn it not again!" lol...
Apr 10, 2009 8:50 PM

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"I don't have a choice sir! We've all been taken hostage, they're practically shoving guns down our throats..."

That was absolutely brilliant, the humour fit in quite nicely in between the action scenes. The chapter was pretty long too. Can't wait for next month's release!


Apr 10, 2009 11:58 PM
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Jeez Roy, why so WRATHful?
Apr 11, 2009 4:13 AM

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eez Roy, why so WRATHful?
Are you hinting something? Hmm, if Bradley dies, Mustang could really become new wrath...
btw. this chapter was epic, Arakawa-sensei never dissapoints me
Apr 11, 2009 7:04 AM

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Awesome chapter. Good to see Mustang finally having his revenge against Envy. Nice to see Hawkeye pretty much holding her own against him too. I'm afraid there'll be pretty much bullshit next chapter though, now that Ed's interfering.

Oh well, 5/5 for this chapter. ^^;
Apr 11, 2009 8:01 AM

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Incredible chapter. This manga is... tooo epic. and too good.

Don't think that next chapter can top Mustang/Envy, but somehow, it probably will.
Apr 11, 2009 8:53 AM

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Mustang raped Envy. Then Riza raped envy and then Mustang raped Envy again. Rape upon rape upon rape.
Dem clubcards are big..

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Apr 11, 2009 8:58 AM

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Hawkeye is so smart!! I love her ♥ I wish she wasn't joking ;D
ahhh Roy is crazy, how delicious~ and Ed was also cool at the end... really loved this chapter, though it ended too soon. is it May yet??
Apr 11, 2009 10:51 AM

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That was epicness smeared on whole wheat bread.
What is with them and stopping Mustang though? LET HIM KILL THE FUCKER!
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Apr 11, 2009 11:03 AM

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So, exactly why can't Mustang just kill Envy and get it over with? Granted, he is tripping hard on rage right now but, that because he's finally face to face with the one who killed Hughes! But everyone's gotta be like "NOOO!! Don't give into revenge! You'll end up being like Scar used to be!" To me, it seems that Mustang's revenge coincides with their ultimate goal of taking out the original Homunculus so, what's the point of stopping him?

On a side note, is it me or in every military-based anime/manga when there is a big battle against a small, underdog army and a big army, there's always at least one high rank officer with a thin mustache who says something like "There's no way they'll be able to break this fortress' defenses." or "There's no way they'll have artillery strong enough to defeat our men" only to get shot, stabbed, or blown up by the opposing army's artillery.

on another side note, GO Freedom of the press!!!
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NoBadsign said:
So, exactly why can't Mustang just kill Envy and get it over with? Granted, he is tripping hard on rage right now but, that because he's finally face to face with the one who killed Hughes! But everyone's gotta be like "NOOO!! Don't give into revenge! You'll end up being like Scar used to be!" To me, it seems that Mustang's revenge coincides with their ultimate goal of taking out the original Homunculus so, what's the point of stopping him?

Apparently to teach viewers a wonderful lesson about the 7 sins. Notice how the fuhrer of the contry is Wrath? Roy Mustang is giving into his own wrath right now too.
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Apr 11, 2009 4:37 PM
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this chapter was aaa-a-a-a-a-a-amazing. very epic fight, although super one-sided. now kill envy >:3
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NoBadsign said:
So, exactly why can't Mustang just kill Envy and get it over with? Granted, he is tripping hard on rage right now but, that because he's finally face to face with the one who killed Hughes! But everyone's gotta be like "NOOO!! Don't give into revenge! You'll end up being like Scar used to be!" To me, it seems that Mustang's revenge coincides with their ultimate goal of taking out the original Homunculus so, what's the point of stopping him?

Apparently to teach viewers a wonderful lesson about the 7 sins. Notice how the fuhrer of the contry is Wrath? Roy Mustang is giving into his own wrath right now too.


To me, a better example of Wrath would be the old Scar, who indiscriminately killed anyone who was involved with the military, regardless of whether or not they fought in Ishval. Roy's different since he didn't just go around blasting away anyone who works with the Homunculi so, doesn't he deserve the chance to exact justice on Envy?
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Haha oh, wow. Mustang went Guts Berserk for a moment :D
Apr 11, 2009 9:07 PM

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Mustang went all out this chapter his facial expressions were whack O_O but it seems he will be brought back from the edge.
Apr 11, 2009 10:04 PM

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Great chapter nonetheless, however I want to see the fight between Hohenheim and Father. Should be interesting to watch. :D
Apr 13, 2009 1:54 AM

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I was just sining while reading the chapter " The roof , the roof , the roof is on fire , we don't need no water let this homonculus burn , BURN MF BURN
Apr 13, 2009 3:47 AM

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NoBadsign said:
So, exactly why can't Mustang just kill Envy and get it over with? Granted, he is tripping hard on rage right now but, that because he's finally face to face with the one who killed Hughes! But everyone's gotta be like "NOOO!! Don't give into revenge! You'll end up being like Scar used to be!" To me, it seems that Mustang's revenge coincides with their ultimate goal of taking out the original Homunculus so, what's the point of stopping him?
on another side note, GO Freedom of the press!!!

second this. I'm already pissed off about this revenge issue popping up in every second manga, but in this case it just doesn't make any sense. come on, I want Roy to blow the shit out of Envy, cause this bastard will definitely find the way to get his body back again.
and that radio trick was awesome, purely awesome. media is the main tool of all revolutions.
Apr 14, 2009 10:58 PM

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This chapter made a clear difference in power. Sure, ed is a prodigy, but mustan is just way to strong compared to him. He didn't get one scratch from Envy, while Ed almost died.
Apr 15, 2009 12:01 AM

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Simply Awesome!

Apr 15, 2009 11:51 AM

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This chapter was brilliant, as many have mentioned before. (:
I was tricked by Envy, actually, haha. Also, Roy and Riza's relationship is amazing.
Apr 16, 2009 9:36 PM

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Needs more pissedoff!Roy!
Apr 20, 2009 5:17 AM

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Roy&Riza = LOVE. They're adorable AND they kick ass! Seriously, Riza is surpassingly awesome, and as people above have pointed out, she does all this with just bullets, which aren't worth much these days...

Vengeance has been a big theme in this manga. It's interesting because you'd think the big theme would be something Ed and Al would be close to in their personal situation, but vengeance keeps coming up for others. Ed was always soft-hearted like that though, killing is wrong and not to be taken lightly, etc. etc... for those who watched the anime, remember when Greed died in that version?

Mustang is amaaaazing with those flames, he may be sweet and a softy in his own way, but when he gets into battle mode he's a dangerous man, ne? No wonder Ishbal feared him. And as always his subordinates are doing a good job of helping him take over the country. Cracks me up how everyone now wants to defeat the homunculus forces "for the Fuhrer!"
Apr 28, 2009 11:32 PM
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Why did they stop Mustang? By allowing Envy to live, they only created more problems for themselves. Haven't these guys learned that given the chance the villain ALWAYS comes back to haunt them? They should have just let Mustang do his job. Idiots...
May 5, 2009 4:43 PM

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Man, why can't Envy just die. Just get it over with already.
May 7, 2009 10:41 AM

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Why did they stop Mustang? By allowing Envy to live, they only created more problems for themselves. Haven't these guys learned that given the chance the villain ALWAYS comes back to haunt them? They should have just let Mustang do his job..


The point is not Envy living or dying.

The point is Mustang killing Envy or not killing him. With how the situation progressed and with what feelings Mustang has, had he killed Envy, it would have completely destroyed him as person and individual.

He would be "consumed by his anger" forever feeling the emptiness of his soul.

So yes, its not about saving envy, its about saving Roy.
May 8, 2009 8:30 PM

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I never thought that I would ever find Mustang to be cool even for a second. I guess I'm glad to be proven wrong.
Nov 21, 2009 6:15 AM

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Mustang = BADASS.

Dec 5, 2009 11:47 AM

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Don't worry Roy, because of this chapter, I believe you'll be first in the next character contest ^^

Anyway, too awesome chapter. I thought Envy would change into Riza to fool Roy.
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So the colonel lost it? Anyways not sure why just getting his revenge would mean much of anything ... I mean he already has killed people so that can't be the reason.
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Envy got owned!!! fuck yeah, you don't mess with the Flame Alchemist, and you definitely don't touch his friends or subordinates. Lust learnt it the hard way and so did Envy. Berserker Roy dominated this chapter but the first few pages showing Mustang's men using the First Lady as a means for gathering the public support was excellently done as well. next chapter, here I come!
... I wonder how I would have felt if I had read the manga before watching the anime... would have probably gone insane waiting one month for the next chapter.
Ah! the joys of anime. :)
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