Over 8 years of waiting for this, what a disappointment. Thrice Upon a Time feels more like a fanfic or parody than the "culmination" of Evangelion (that culmination came in 1997 with The End of Evangelion). I really thought it couldn't get any worse than the previous movie, but Thrice somehow managed it, no wonder it had a troubled production (production was a disjointed clusterfuck as seen in the documentary 'Hideaki Anno: The Final Challenge of Evangelion'). This was Anno's last opportunity to fix all the problems of the previous Rebuild films, especially after 3.0 left so many important questions unanswered. Why was the Near
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Third Impact so destructive? (at the end of 2.0 Kaworu stopped it just in time) How did Gendo and Fuyutsuki manage all NERV on their own when it seems that absolutely all the NERV staff betrayed them to form WILLE? What happened to Kaji? Why did SEELE disappear? What's the in-world explanation for the Eva's curse? Who is Mari? This movie either ignores or provides very unsatisfactory answers to these questions. Anno not only didn't fix any of the plot holes and inconsistencies, he made them worse, it's so bad it retroactively makes 3.0 even worse. Some may say "That's ok, Evangelion's focal point is its philosophical message and the characters' psyches, the post-apocalyptic narrative and robots are just dressing", that might be true but just because "the robots" end up taking a backseat to the introspection sequences doesn't mean bad writing should be given a pass (this movie fails at being a psychological exploration of its characters anyway).
Thrice runtime is 2 hours and 35 minutes long, it's the third longest animated movie ever made. Two and a half hours of bad exposition/info dumps, asspulls, contradictions, unconvincing character development, in-your-face/condescending meta-narrative and mindless CG action. The only good part of the movie is when they are in the village. This segment is the only part where the writing and character interactions felt natural (even though character development felt extremely rushed and unbelievable). It’s also visually impressive, the 2D animation, background art and cinematography really shines, unfortunately this doesn't last long and the rest of the movie mainly consists of bombastic action. It wouldn't be so bad if at least the action was good, but sadly long gone is the quality of action scenes like Asuka vs the Mass Production Evas from EoE; elegantly choreographed and accompanied with well thought out composition and camera movement, the amazing 2D animation of this scene looks just as good today as it did 24 years ago. Now we have ugly CG Evas (that already look outdated) with unnecessarily convoluted designs, stiff animation and a camera that cannot be still for a second (the constant camera spinning was absolutely nauseating). It's not just that they look bad, there's also no tension or anything at stake since Asuka and Mari can easily defeat thousands of Evas by simply shooting them with their guns (what good are their AT fields?).
The plot is very straightforward but full of unfamiliar terminology and lore exposition since the worldbuilding continues to be incredibly sparse compared to NGE. This has been a problem with the Rebuild films since 2.0 and it only got worse with each subsequent entry thanks to the timeskip. NGE had excellent lore and worldbuilding, it never gave you all the answers, but it gave you enough information to make sense of what was going on, while remaining consistent and believable whitin itself. Rebuild is a complete failure in this regard, and in Thrice everything feels more contrived, nonsensical and excessive than ever. Anyway, this movie gets so ridiculously meta none of this ends up mattering, so let's move on.
[ Beware of spoilers from now on. ]
What about the characters? They were always the strong suit of Evangelion. In NGE it took a realistically long time for Rei to behave like a human being in front of anyone that wasn't Gendo, in Thrice she's suddenly a cute baby full of curiosity, even though not long ago she was an emotionless doll, colder than ever during the events of the previous movie. Her character arc and relationship with Shinji are ruined with the awesome revelation that Rei was programmed to like Shinji à la Mikasa and is not choosing him over Gendo out of her own free will. I have to admit it was nice seeing Rei farming and hanging out with the old ladies, but this is the 2nd time we're seeing her humanization in these movies, it feels very redundant. Shinji starts out very depressed because of the death of Kaworu then Rei (after winning his affection) dies in front of him and instead of falling further into depression he suddenly becomes a stoic chad who is unfazed when someone points a gun at him. He transforms into an overly optimistic character, absolutely motivated to play the hero completely out of nowhere and of course everyone keeps telling him how much he has grown up, "Wow Shinji you have grown, you're a generic shonen protagonist now". Such is his mental fortitude and gravitas that he can talk Cyclops Gendo (a literal god and 4D chess master) into submission, not bad for someone that a few days ago suffered from severe depression and PTSD (he was borderline suicidal). Asuka continues to exist only for blatant fanservice (she spends most of her screen time half naked for no reason) and to tsunderely have a crush on Shinji, we hardly see anything from her past that makes us sympathize with her or a justification for her toxic behavior and instead we get a last minute asspull revelation: Asuka was a clone the whole time, because that's what Evangelion needed, more clones. Mari always felt like an unwanted guest on Evangelion, a Mary Sue whose dialogue consists almost entirely of one liners and only appears during combat/fanservice scenes, never having any meaningful interaction with any of the other characters. I've always hated Mari because RoE already had simplified versions of the original cast, with far fewer scenes to develop as characters than they had in NGE and she was stealing precious screen time from them. "No matter where you are, I'll come get you, Puppy Boy", yeah, yeah, shut up Anno's wife self-insert. This is the final movie and we do not see another facet of Mari or an interesting origin story relevant to the plot, no, she is still the same one-dimensional character singing and fooling around during critical moments, her existence in these movies is never justified. Worst of all, out of all the movies, this one gives her the most screen time while far better characters like Misato and Ritsuko were put aside. Yes, Misato is once again relegated to a very minor role, most of her dialogue is just poor exposition about what happened to Kaji (Gendo and Ritsuko were also reduced to exposition spouting robots).
This time around the Human Instrumentality is much more direct thanks to Gendo constantly explaining everything with unnecessary info dumps, "This is the world of your memories. Our senses can't perceive the anti-universe. Therefore the LCL has created a virtual environment we can perceive", it's all dumbed down so even the dumbest normie can understand. It's as if during the sandbox sequence from EoE there was some know-it-all character explaining the meaning behind all the symbolism and metaphors, ruining the atmosphere and leaving no place for interpretation. The Human Instrumentality should offer viewers more space for imagination and self-reflection. Fourth Impact, Another Impact, Additional Impact or whatever the fuck it's called, basically consists of bad CG, superficial visual callbacks to EoE, Gendo's backstory/introspection (admittedly this part wasn't so bad) and happy send-offs to all the main characters that felt rushed and unearned. Yeah, Shinji is such a Gary Stu now he doesn't even need psychotherapy through Instrumentality anymore, instead he is the fucking psychotherapist fixing everyone's problems. Our protagonist was reduced to a plot device.
3.0+1.0 also went way too far with its 4th wall breaking elements. Once again EoE did it so much better, it just works better when it's done subtlety (e.g., the death threats/fan mail flashed on screen at the end of the live action sequence). Shinji saying "Neon Genesis", bad CG on purpose (Unit-01 vs Unit-13 fight in Tokyo-3) and uncanny valley giant Rei were just too much, instead of leaving me in awe or perplexed I was laughing and unimmersed.
Even the message of the movie feels wrong. The message of NGE was: "You are worthy of love, especially from yourself. Social interaction can be painful but you need to connect with other people in order to be happy, don't be afraid/don't run away". The message of this movie is: "Say bye-bye to Evangelion, it's time to grow up. Stop being a loser (otaku), go outside and touch grass. Get some pussy like I (Hideaki Anno) did". It's very meta but also very condescending, hypocritical and redundant. This meta-message felt so much more sincere and empathetic the way it was delivered during the live action sequence in EoE ("You were avoiding the truth by escaping into a fictional world"), mainly because there wasn't a "gorgeous gal with big boobs" representation of Anno's wife lusting over Shinji/Anno, and because 'The END of Evangelion' was supposed to be the end of Evangelion, but no, Anno had to make 4 more multi-million dollar movies in the span of 14 years just to tell us once again to move on from Evangelion, not content with that he's also judging us as immature while simultaneously putting more butt shots in this movie than the entirety of the previous Rebuild movies and NGE combined. Meta-narrative aside Shinji literally ran away from HIS real world and all its problems, this is escapism at its worst. In both EoE and NGE Shinji rejects Instrumentality and decides to return to the real world even though that means being hurt, basically he decides to stop running away from reality and start facing it, this movie is the complete opposite. The realistically optimistic EoE: "Anywhere can be paradise as long as you have the will to live". The overly optimistic and delusional 3.0+1.0: "Erase your reality and get yourself isekai'd to a different reality". World resets are such cop-out endings, they don't belong in Evangelion, they are incompatible with its anti-escapism message. And of course Shinji ends up with Mari, even though story-wise it doesn't make sense since they hardly ever interacted with each other (plus Mari is really a 50-something year old woman making moves on a minor, that's fucked up), but that's just how it had to be because Shinji is Anno's self-insert and Mari is Anno's wife self-insert in this condescending allegory of growing up.
In the 90s Anno was struggling with depression and Evangelion was a way of therapy for him. So Eva has always been a deeply personal reflection of its creator, but its themes were universal and relatable, knowledge of Anno's personal life was never necessary to understand and appreciate NGE. Unfortunately that's not the case anymore. Shinji is suddenly a completely different person, he's full of confidence and optimism, why? Because Anno is a different person now, he's no longer in a dark state of mind. The only justification for Mari being a complete non-character is that she's a representation of Anno's wife, coming into his life to make it better. You need to know a lot about Anno's personal life to justify Shinji acting so out of character, him and Mari ending up as a couple, Mari's role, and the forced overly optimistic/happy ending (Shinji getting his choker removed is obviously a metaphor for Anno breaking free from the burden of Evangelion, specifically the burden of "Rebuilding" Eva, a burden he took upon himself when he didn't have to). Having an underlying meaning behind all the in-world nonsense doesn't make a story good, good writing does. There's only one thing worse than knowing Anno ruined RoE's narrative and characters for the sake of an extremely personal and overindulgent meta-narrative, and that's being completely in the dark about all of this, which is the case for many new fans and casual viewers, and let's not forget RoE main target was to attract those people.
On a side note this movie has one of the worst cases of unwanted fanservice during a serious moment I've ever seen, yeah I'm talking about the butt shots of Toji's sister during that dramatic scene. Evangelion has always had lots of fanservice, but unlike this movie it was always used at the right times.
TLDR: Thrice Upon a Time does not give a satisfactory answer to the many unaswered questions left by its predecessor, Anno no longer treats his audience with respect and now feels the need to explain everything with bad exposition, character development is unconvincing or lacking because most of the runtime is wasted on awful CG action scenes (those first 10 minutes in Paris were so incredibly unecessary), the meta-narrative/4th wall breaking elements felt too intrusive and the message is condescending, hypocritical and redundant.
No one ever believed that the Rebuild films could possibly leave a legacy comparable to that of NGE and EoE, but I think I speak for many Eva fans when I say that we didn't think Anno would disappoint us so badly either. In its advertising this film has been announced as "The end of Evangelion" ("Bye-bye, all of Evangelion"), but for me this is only the end of Rebuild of Evangelion. I don't care about endless cycles, time loops and multiverses, for me the real end of Evangelion happened in 1997 and that's the way it should have stayed.
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Synonyms: Evangelion: 4.0, Rebuild of Evangelion, Shin Evangelion Gekijouban𝄇, Rebuild of Evangelion: Final
Japanese: シン・エヴァンゲリオン劇場版𝄇
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Your Feelings Categories Aug 12, 2021
Over 8 years of waiting for this, what a disappointment. Thrice Upon a Time feels more like a fanfic or parody than the "culmination" of Evangelion (that culmination came in 1997 with The End of Evangelion). I really thought it couldn't get any worse than the previous movie, but Thrice somehow managed it, no wonder it had a troubled production (production was a disjointed clusterfuck as seen in the documentary 'Hideaki Anno: The Final Challenge of Evangelion'). This was Anno's last opportunity to fix all the problems of the previous Rebuild films, especially after 3.0 left so many important questions unanswered. Why was the Near
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Mar 7, 2021
What's Evangelion to you? For me it's both a touchstone and an uncomprehending able vision created by "Hideaki Anno" ~ double as enthralling as the mecha anime genre show it is and as distressing in the exploration of despair, making for a whole different level of an epic tale about angels and inner demons. Arguable as one of those shows that have numerous hidden messages in itself as the show has been going on, while some argue that it only plays up to a definite fatuous philosophy of the world. Whatever the case may be, NGE has established itself as one of the hot topics
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Mar 26, 2021
After watching this movie 2 times and the documentary i can say that this is just a "more worthwhile experience" for the non-thinker a movie for the "fan of movies and entertainment".
you just can sit and gobble your popcorns and candys without the arduous task of thinking, don't be objective don't think that is for pretentious people just give this movie a 10 or 9. This is just the equivalent of a marvel movie aesthetically stunning but hollow. is trying to do what his 20 years old counterpart did 10 times better. But that doesn't mean that it has no value on its own. Art is ... Mar 8, 2021
Thank you, Mr. Anno. Thank you for delivering the finale we all been waiting for since 2013. Thank you for not disappointing. It is and will remain a very satysfying ending for the beloved franchise.
Is is, in fact, an end of all Evangelion. Hopefully no one will come up with milking it no more. Before starting the entirety let's all of u ask yourself, how much u love Evangelion, what it's mean for you? This finale is pretty much definition of love letter, not only for the fans, but as well Anno himself from himself. At last we are bound to strict and smooth ... Mar 7, 2021
I just came back from watching this in the theatre. A tl;dr: The most satisfying ending to Evangelion with some caveats.
I should say off the bat that I only recently sat down and watched the original series and remake movies, and honestly I was kinda iffy about them. This review is coming not from an Eva super-fan, but a fan of movies and entertainment. What I found satisfying might ultimately not be what someone who has stuck with and loved the series for so long is after. That being said, let me start with what I know best: Animation and art direction. Animation/Art: 8 This movie is ... Aug 13, 2021
World-building (and World-Destroying) of Evangelion - 1.01+2.22+3.333+(3.0+1.01): This is the Suspension, Beyond Belief
Warning: Spoilers Compared to 3.0, which was notoriously reticent to explain the whys and hows of its newfangled setting, Thrice is dedicated to filling in old underlines. But the delay has colored the viewing experience a shade, making it hard not to feel palpable elation or dread as minute one begins, having over the years remained in suspense to find out what it was we watched a decade ago--no one could say if 3.0 (and Rebuild as a whole) checked out or not, even if they felt more or less sure about their ... Aug 14, 2021
Any critique of the film based in convention would rate the film Evangelion: 3.0 + 1.0 rather low. For those who have not followed the over two decade in-the-making franchise, Evangelion: 3.0 + 1.0 would seem to be a bizarre mess of technobabble, epileptic visual effects, strange sound decisions, questionable pacing, gratuitous amounts of fan service and more. Even for fans of the franchise, complaints about previous Rebuild films remain unaddressed, while many (and I mean many) plot holes and character backstories remain unresolved.
Cinematically, the film is certainly far from perfect - it could almost be called disastrous. And yet Evangelion: 3.0 + 1.0 ... Aug 14, 2021
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I have consumed at least some of nearly every non-game Evangelion property, and I can confidently say that this is the singular worst property. Yes, worse than Rebuild 3.0. Yes, worse that ANIMA. YES worse than Campus Apocalypse. The sheer audacity of this movie; to spit in the face of the audience, insult their intelligence, ignore the lore & continuity of the previous movies and series, and produce a mediocre product created for absolutely no worthwhile reason. Let's go in order here. First up, Story: I give this a 1. The first ~50 minutes of this movie are really quite well done. Art is ... Aug 23, 2021
Could content made by the original creator still be classified as fan fiction? Well, technically no, but leave it to Hideaki Anno to make the impossible, possible.
The Evangelion Rebuild films aren't so much about telling their own story or introducing new audiences to the world of Anno's Evangelion as it is about Evangelion itself. Not Evangelion the original series and film mind you, but what it's come to represent in the collective minds of all those who've ran away with romantic notions of its placement as a bedrock of their youth. If there's anything "existential" here it's in a generation's obsession with iconography, the hive-minded ... Aug 12, 2021
I can not express how much feelings I have for Evangelion
as I watch the ending of a beautiful series, the satisfaction I got, the feeling of you want it to end but also you don't, It has been a beautiful journey through ups and downs, as I watch all of the series, seeing all the characters grow as it grow with me, what it feels and what it takes to be, human, through the tears and joy, the feelings we all share together, from the original series to the rebuild movies ... Mar 29, 2021
Well, here we are. After almost 14 years since the beginning of this tetralogy and over 25 since the television series original run, it seems Evangelion has come to a definitive ending...and what a journey it’s been. The television series, which changed the entire landscape of anime, forever leaving its mark on the industry and creating one of the biggest franchises to date. The film End of Evangelion, which has gone down as one of the most jarring, surreal and greatest anime films of all time. And finally, the Rebuild films series, which sought to recreate the iconic series in 4 parts...but to what end?
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Apr 6, 2021
The second coming of Christ is here boys and girls. Anno has delivered yet again something that will have you saying,”what the fuck did I just watch?” For years to come! If you loved End of Eva for the vegetative like state it put your mind in then you’ll love this! Just imagine and follow me here. End of Evangelion, but in reverse. Did you have one, two or maybe a few hundred questions after 3.0? Some that even a psychologist couldn’t answer? Because God himself has answered some prayers. We did it. After a decade we FINALLY get some plot holes patched! Now how
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Aug 19, 2021
Contains some spoilers. (4/10 means I didn’t like it but it definitely isn’t bad. I thought it’s especially important to note for this review.)
Evangelion 3.0+1.0 (4.0) is difficult to completely hate. It's not amazing, yet possesses a given charm that makes it as irresistible as it is flawed. Well that is unless you’re one of those of ill-reputation intolerant OG Eva fans who recoil in apprehension at the sight of changes and unforgivingly deem a rebuild, of which serves a completely different purpose, already pointless from the get-go; or you somehow believe the anime is persuading you to touch grass and get pussies (unironically one ... Aug 13, 2021
I know this is not the best score to give to such a praised piece of art, but here I am, telling you all just how I feel, and how the Rebuilds achieved Hideaki Anno's dream of turning Evangelion into just another generic mecha series.
We need to begin from Neon Genesis Evangelion. An absolute masterpiece. Its animation style might be old, but it achieves to show SO MUCH in a spectacular way. It deals with profound topics and themes, like loneliness, depression and trauma in a fascinating world with the main idea of anti-escapism. And Hideaki called it a generic Mecha show. It's an exploration of the mind, ... Feb 11, 2023
Hideaki Anno has completely ruined Neon Genesis Evangelion by utterly disregarding the fans hopes and expectations. It was such a long journey from the first movie in 2007 to this final movie in 2021 just to metaphorically slap all the fans in the face by this disaster of a film. The worst thing about this movie is the message they're sending out to every single fan of anime and that is "to grow up and move on with our lives." and specifically, moving on from anime and becoming a productive member of society. I vehemently despise that message. You never have to grow up if
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Aug 12, 2021
Evangelion: 3.0+1.0 Thrice Upon a Time is the culmination of the Rebuild series, and much like the other movies, it's pretty mediocre overall.
This movie spends too much of its runtime on CGI fight scenes with no discernable stakes and confusing goals hidden behind a veil of nonsensical esoteric lore that doesn't really matter to the overall theme of the movie. While yes, the original Eva was confusing as hell, the lore was just decoration, as the main appeal of the anime was the characters and their interactions and growth. This is the biggest problem with the movie (and its predecessor, 3.0): the character interactions ... Aug 13, 2021
“Part of the journey is the end”
For 25 long years, we have waited for a satisfactory conclusion to what I deem the greatest anime series of all time, Evangelion. It’s been equally criticised and praised for its existential themes and religious imagery. Each time we’ve got to supposedly “the end” of Evangelion, we’ve been left with more questions than answers. Finally, after two decades, Shin Eva provides the much needed conclusion to this masterpiece of a series and I am so glad I got to experience it. The most difficult thing about ending an extremely popular franchise is writing a satisfactory ending that ties up ... Feb 5, 2022
This is currently rated higher than the original end of evangellion. If you ever wanted more proof the average MAL user has brain worms.
The rebuilds were built out of pure hatred Anno has for his audience. Imagine making an anime that is explicitly about how shit anime is. Every character in Eva is a direct refutation of all the shit tropes. Asuke is the red haired Tsundere. But in Eva it asks the question of how a person could become so unable to genuinley express themselves, it shows the pain and horror of being unable to show affection. Rei is the Kuudere and in ... Aug 16, 2021
in the beginning of 2018, i finished NGE and watched End of Evangelion for the first time.
it was the lowest point in my life. i was out of rehab for an amphetamine addiction, was recovering from a mental breakdown, my grandfather who i adored had just passed away, my father was deported and i had to relocate to a new state, my mother lost her job and now i live beneath the poverty line, i am thousands in debt, i was severely underweight, i had pneumonia that would ravage my body for over half a year, i had to drop out of college, the girl ... Aug 13, 2021
this film was not great
Story: 5/10 The story is the worst part, which sucks because it is the most important part. It's unconnected nonsense, it doesn't explain, justify, or forecast the important things that happen. This, unfortunately, means you (cannot) feel any anticipation or expectation (or have those expectations broken) as you watch the film because the things that happen happen as unexpectedly and reasonlessly as the things that don't happen. They manifest a new (most important object imaginable) near the end as the means to do what they just said couldn't be done. There is not a single person who after watching the movie could tell you how or ... |