Steward requests/Checkuser/2023-06

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•  Confirmed Turpd and Maccomcre
• Unrelated Kalin8111

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 09:23, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

@Sotiale: May I ask that whether their IPs locate in different cities or not? Sanmosa _Outdia 12:07, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

I can't seem to reveal anything other than that their ranges are completely different (at the time of investigation). --Sotiale (talk) 14:40, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

•  Confirmed Vedyashvar, Veeryasen, Radhe Singh Tomar, Ripunjayanath, Indrajitvarman
• Unrelated Narayana-Narayana, Kamalydv, Surendarsingh17

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• This means that all accounts you request are technically distinct users.
• Confirmed users appear to be other socks active on commonswiki. Additional accounts may exist.

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 14:49, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

@Sotiale Thank you. --SM7^--talk-- 17:42, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Clump. It's not about finding hidden accounts, it's about asking for something to be done to prevent further abuse from them, right? --Sotiale (talk) 14:57, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi Sotiale. Yes, just want to stop the stream of new accounts. --Clump (talk) 15:01, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Add mw:User:Fuck this level. That's all that shows in CU because of the age. -- Amanda (she/her) 23:43, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

•  Confirmed Malaysia China, Soon UAE Ci, No have some thing, 谢谢你那些命运给的惩罚, BagedaChina, Hee Keat, Michael Jackson singer, The Star is a better, Joseph stalin corruption, Is my life Is my life

From a technical point of view. My fear is that without Google's changes or improvements to our tools we won't be able to find this guy. --Sotiale (talk) 07:36, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

• Unrelated ChengYnagChe and Jimmy.hg

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 07:30, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

•  Confirmed 漫畫小迷弟 and Hui WS

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 07:38, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

•  Confirmed Eduhk92012504, 03625411stbc, Plhks03625411, Eduhk0365411, Ruby03625411, Hkbu03625411, Stbc92012504

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• They are using the devices and ranges of public facilities.

From a technical point of view. I personally think all of these ranges should be at least anon-blocked with account creation disabled, but I'm afraid this has serious impact for zhwiki users. These ranges are very often abused. I will consider the appropriate action. --Sotiale (talk) 07:46, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

•  Confirmed MichelleDockery and Diortautou

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• Comparison with previous data was judged to be meaningless.
• They are using VPNs or proxies.

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 07:50, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

• Unlikely 卡卡絲 and GULai
• Unrelated Chantell11

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 07:53, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

•  Confirmed Lennon Esc and Z17332096
• Inconclusive Pingcgangxian, LUNDUNPOIUYS
• Stale VALORANTK, Logitech 960, Lhjh9622, Bamenjiufang

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• They are using VPNs or proxies.

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 08:08, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

 Confirmed Xumare.Huseynova, Vasif275, AnarMamedbayli, GulnarKelbecerli, ResulAzeroqlu, Kamranr2078, Aygun2005, GunelZaman

-- Amanda (she/her) 05:23, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

IP range blocks are not possible at this time. -- Amanda (she/her) 05:36, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

I will ask for additional mitigations to be done, though it will likely take several times to get it right fully, if it can be done at all. -- Amanda (she/her) 05:52, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Quick note in support - we've had a fairly hideous time with Libraryclerk0191's sockpuppets on Wikiquote, and he just keeps coming back. Also, this goes to the right place for your first ("FYI") link. Antandrus (talk) 16:54, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

There is nothing to compare with - every account linked on that page is stale for accounts, and I can't advise you if the IP address matches. I have taken a look though and see no immediate socks. -- Amanda (she/her) 05:46, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

@AmandaNP, the most recent sock is Perez-fidel-vladimir (talk · contribs), is it still stale? Lemonaka (talk) 07:36, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

That account is not registered on enwikiquote. But if you mean through LWCU, yes. It is stale because the registration was Back in March. I of course don't have access to meta CU data. -- Amanda (she/her) 13:20, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

義務教育学校及び高等学校学習指導要領 is possibly related to Honooo and has been locked. Possible すじにくカレー, Stale 日本人3. -- Amanda (she/her) 05:59, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

@AmandaNP,Thank you for investigating. I agree with the result that 義務教育学校及び高等学校学習指導要領 (hereafter abbreviated as "GIMU") and すじにくカレー are most likely the same users. However, I am very puzzled and confused by the other result, and to be honest, I find it hard to believe. This is because Honooo (who is globally blocked) and GIMU have had a relatively intense adversarial relationship on jabooks, and we have seen several edit wars between them. However, it is also true that after Honooo was globally blocked, GIMU began to show defensive posting activity concerning Honooo. I wonder if this means that GIMU and Honooo were the same, using a Sock Puppet. It seems to me that proper handling of this matter is very difficult.--Tomzo (talk) 10:23, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

I went off the basis that there was another sock listed as blocked on jawiki for being Honooo that I found to be a technical match. I'm happy to have local admins review as I don't have an once of knowledge of Japanese. -- Amanda (she/her) 13:17, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Doing... --Sotiale (talk) 05:23, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

•  Confirmed Pingu210 and Lovesugarmama
• Unrelated Joanna15821

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 05:25, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

•  Confirmed 徐鑫00123, Liujuan818913, Shangjinge999, 陈晓佳

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 05:40, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

•  Confirmed Tugac888, Tihana.kovac1, Borisozren, Healthzagreb, Fredaw3, KarlaSud6, Lesggs, W1eer, Croxxq, Bornaww, Presturc, Vedranabig, Grgurbb, Velimir6, Editord11, DijabetesLjubljana, Yuued, StimparA
• Likely Hrvoje134

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 05:50, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Eldarado. If they have already been confirmed on commonswiki, you don't need to additionally request the result of running checkuser on localwiki. Is there a reason you don't trust commonswiki's results? I'd like to ask you this as there's no reason to investigate if the commonswiki checkuser has already confirmed them. --Sotiale (talk) 05:22, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi Sotiale, Appealed because allegations in Commons are false. A meta check is a must to be sure. — Xeyal ^talk 10:26, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately, given the same verdict on enwiki, that's not very convincing. I trust the checkuser's investigation based on the data on commonswiki and enwiki, and I still see no reason to investigate again. --Sotiale (talk) 13:45, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Sotiale, some time ago they thought I was a puppet account of another user. That is why meta was applied (see: Steward requests/Checkuser/2022-05#Lavici@az.wikipedia). And now by what verification do you call us the same account? We are not the same person as user Onyeddi, as many people on the home wiki know. Could you please check again? As a result, we have been banned from the home wiki indefinitely. — Xeyal ^talk 18:05, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

@Sotiale I am waiting for your decision, I insist, please check us. Onyeddi (talk) 20:13, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Sotiale, I got you. Thank you for your support. --eldarado (talk | contributions | meta page) 17:13, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Sotiale If you check user, you will know that we are separate users. I can not accept this decision. - Onyeddi (talk) 19:23, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Perhaps you believe that if I get results that you are unrelated to each other based on data from azwiki, it can overturn or negate the results from commonswiki or enwiki checkusers. But since it's already been confirmed in two places, it's hard to do that. Even if you get a result that contradicts the results in two places here, it has no meaning. A reasonable way possible for you is to appeal on commonswiki or enwiki, rather than getting contradictory results here. I am closing this request as the requester has withdrawn and there is no interest in conducting this investigation. --Sotiale (talk) 20:40, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

@Sotiale Your call Onyeddi and me the same account, but there is no check user result. Please prove it to me. the user who started the discussion is engaged in biased activities on the home wiki, has created a monopoly on administration on the home wiki. Therefore, he refuses to participate in discussions. I think it will take you a few days to check the results in check user. This is very important for us. — Xeyal ^talk 21:22, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi there. This request is originally intended for Japanese Wikivoyage. But there are so many deficiencies that I would like to withdraw this request; furthermore, three accounts except Chqaz have been blocked. Thank you--Tmv (talk) 01:05, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

(additional note about this)See here for discussion on Japanese Wikivoyage. Chqaz (talk) 02:35, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

こにしかめやも2 was global locked as a sock puppet --Tmv (talk) 22:40, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Given the filling user is now locked and the request appears withdrawn, I'm going to  Declined for now. -- Amanda (she/her) 13:52, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Why are you requesting exactly what I checked last time? -- Amanda (she/her) 23:49, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

The account at 平安少年@ja.wikibooks was created after 義務教育学校及び高等学校学習指導要領(GIMU) was globally blocked. The name "平安少年(Heian Shonen)" is an imitation of "令和少年(Reiwa Shonen)". Reiwa Shonen used to be active in ja.wikibooks, but perhaps because of his youth, he had a poor editorial attitude that often caused conflicts with other editors.Several accounts named after Reiwa Shonen have been created, and none of them have been edited in a favorable manner.　In this case, I suspect that GIMU, which was globally blocked, created this account.--Tomzo (talk) 04:38, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

I understand now. Please make sure to include ALL users in the template.

•  Confirmed 弥生少年, 平安少年
• Likely すじにくカレー
• Possible 義務教育学校及び高等学校学習指導要領

-- Amanda (she/her) 14:01, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your cooperation--Tomzo (talk) 02:36, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

I have already explained that the results of this request will not stand in your favor(Steward requests/Checkuser/2023-06#Xeyal@az.wikipedia). This is because even if you are declared 'unrelated' based on azwiki's data at this point, it cannot invalidate the results of commonswiki and enwiki. --Sotiale (talk) 07:41, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Sotiale, I believe it will be positive for us if you check again. The results will be useful for azwiki, even if they are not in our favor on other wikis. This is very important for us to be blocked in Azwiki. — Xeyal ^talk 08:17, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

HakanIST, rica etsem sizde yeniden baka bilirmisiniz bu konuya? — Xeyal ^talk 08:26, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Turkmen, şəffaflıq üçün sizi də bu müzakirəyə dəvət edirəm. — Xeyal ^talk 08:37, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

• I have checked this on the basis that Onyeddi was not confirmed on enwiki to Xeyal, making it only the commons CU confirming the connection.
•  Confirmed Mr.157, WTW7, Xeyal
• As Sotiale previously noted, I don't see any likely connection between Xeyal et. al. and Onyeddi. I have reviewed the CU logs of 4 wikis and do not find anything definitive to link the two users.
• To be clear, this does not rule out behavioural evidence that is being used. CheckUser can not prove a negative. I also don't have access to the data that Elcobbola viewed when executing the block on commons. We can't go back in time. The relevant wikis may do what they wish with this information, but I will remind CU can't prove a negative. -- Amanda (she/her) 09:00, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

AmandaNP, Is Onyeddi and I connected on Azwiki? Other multiple accounts are not related to azwiki, I will explain about them later. — Xeyal ^talk 10:49, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

AmandaNP,In addition, it is not known what commons checks against. — Xeyal ^talk 10:55, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

I already answered that. Checkuser can't prove a negative. I don't see anything that makes me think you are related though on any wiki. But what you are asking is like asking me to prove an animal is extinct. I can't prove that. So if you are looking for a straight up yes or no, you aren't going to get one. That's the nature of checkuser. Also please only ping me once and wait for my response. -- Amanda (she/her) 13:48, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

thank you for your attention. — Xeyal ^talk 14:01, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

• Likely from a technical point of view: same ISP, of which there are few other users, and computer data. No other accounts found. --Mykola 13:08, 30 June 2023 (UTC)