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Hello, please can you help us to mark this page ?

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiLinguila/reports

CapitainAfrika (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:35, 25 July 2024 (UTC).Reply

Done Please ping me if some tweaks are needed. -- Pols12 (talk) 14:42, 8 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello, our club name has changed to Istanbul Bilgi University Wiki Student Club, but I cannot move the Meta page. Is anyone can help to me? Kurmanbek ^💬 19:36, 13 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Done by @Pppery _signed, Aafi ^(talk) 03:50, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Pppery:, thank you very much for your efforts. After the renaming I also need the following updates. Can you help me with this?

English

• Istanbul Bilgi University Wikipedia Student Club/Activities to Istanbul Bilgi University Wiki Student Club/Activities
• Istanbul Bilgi University Wikipedia Student Club/Members to Istanbul Bilgi University Wiki Student Club/Members
• Istanbul Bilgi University Wikipedia Student Club/News to Istanbul Bilgi University Wiki Student Club/News
• Istanbul Bilgi University Wikipedia Student Club/Reports to Istanbul Bilgi University Wiki Student Club/Reports

Kurmanbek ^💬 12:10, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Kurmanbek: Moving English-version would by-default move everything alongside. I have logged in moving of Istanbul Bilgi University Wikipedia Student Club/Activities for now. _signed, Aafi ^(talk) 16:46, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Kurmanbek Done. Let me know if there is any thing else that you need help with. _signed, Aafi ^(talk) 16:49, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you Aafi, I just have question. I changed the logo on Template:BilgiViki/header this template but I can't see on real page. What should I do? Kurmanbek ^💬 17:01, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Kurmanbek: The pending change was not marked for translation, and as such not reflecting. It should do now. _signed, Aafi ^(talk) 17:12, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Kurmanbek: I hope you won't disagree with me removing the unneeded and irrelevant portion from your edit. _signed, Aafi ^(talk) 17:18, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

It doesn't matter if you find it appropriate. Thank you very much for your help! :) Kurmanbek ^💬 17:21, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Greetings,

Translatable pages allow contents such as project documentation on Mediawiki.org to be multilingual. Currently a flat list with all languages in which the content is available is listed above the page contents. As the content is translated into more languages, this makes it hard for users to find the content in their language (they have to scan a long list or rely on the browser search), clutters the page, and pushes the content down.

To address this issue, the Language and Product Localization team is implementing a change to use the Language selector from ULS for language selection on Vector 2022. This aims to ensure consistency with the way languages are selected on other projects, such as Wikipedia.

Specifically, the configuration option ($wgPageTranslationLanguageList = 'sidebar-only';) that we are planning to use would display languages as interlanguage links only and ignore the tag even if present on the page. You can see this in action on translatewiki.net:

1. Vector 2022: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Project:About?useskin=vector-2022
2. Timeless: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Project:About?useskin=timeless
3. Vector legacy: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Project:About?useskin=vector  

We’re planning to enable this on Test Wikipedia first, and then roll-out on all wikis where Translate extension is enabled based on community feedback. Feel free to leave your feedback here, or on the Phabricator task.

Q: Why are we making this change?

A: Currently a flat list of all languages to which the page is translated is displayed at the top of page contents. As the content is translated into more languages, this makes it hard for users to find the content in their language (they have to scan a long list or rely on the browser search), clutters the page, and pushes the content down. Using the Language selector from ULS, makes the available language list searchable and clears up the top of the page to display the actual content. It also brings uniformity to how content language selection is done across our sites.

Q: Will I still be able to see the translation progress for each language?

A: Yes, translation statistics for each language will be displayed within circles in the same manner that it is displayed currently. The special page Special:MessageGroupStats can also be used to view per language translation statistics.

Q: Where can I see this in action?

A: This change is already active on translatewiki.net. You can see it in action there:

1. Vector 2022: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Project:About?useskin=vector-2022
2. Timeless: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Project:About?useskin=timeless
3. Vector legacy: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Project:About?useskin=vector

Q: How will this change affect the ULS for other projects like Wikipedia? Currently, the ULS in Wikipedia shows and links to Wikipedias that have the translated version of the same article in other languages. How will this new workflow affect the Wikipedia User Interface?

A: This change will not have any impact on projects that do not use the Translate extension and as such Wikipedia and its sister sites will not be impacted.

Q: This new ULS menu design shows 20 languages before scrolling. Does it mean I have to scroll and skim through maybe 90 languages to access my language if it is the last on the list?

A: No, you won't have to scroll all the way. You can type the two or three letters of your language in the Universal Language Selector for the search to fetch your language translation.

In addition, the Universal Language Selector uses different techniques to determine which languages will be most relevant to you, and displays those at the top.

Q: What is the roll-out plan?

A: We’re planning to enable this on Test Wikipedia first, followed by MediaWiki.org and then roll-out on all wikis where the Translate extension is enabled.

Thanks! APatro (WMF) (talk) 13:14, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi @APatro (WMF) thanks for the change, sounds great!

How will the language selection deal with pages, which exists locally in many different translations, but currently also link to versions of this page on other projects?

Example: There are many translations of No open proxies (e.g. No open proxies/de), but the VE2022 language selection currently links to Wikipedia versions of that page (e.g. de:WP:Keine offenen Proxys). Johannnes89 (talk) 14:06, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your feedback, Johannes.

I was not aware of this use case. This will have to be handled differently, not something that I had considered. I'll check with team.

Regards, APatro (WMF) (talk) 09:46, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I think we may remove Meta-Wiki from Wikipedia “pool”: English Wikipedia is already linked in “In other projects” section from Tools menu. As an improvement, we can link French Wikipedia in the same place when we are reading French translation (e.g. No_open_proxies/fr), and so on.

The current design (both ULS for Wikipedia links and language bar for local translations) do has been confusing anyway. Let’s go ahead removing that dubious feature. Pols12 (talk) 23:38, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello, thanks for your work! Perhaps adding a notice at the top of the page to remind users of this UI change (similar to the Vector 2022 one) would be helpful? SCP-2000 15:29, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

That's a good idea! Regards, APatro (WMF) (talk) 09:42, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Could you please mark for translation Event:Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium/2024 ? Thanks --Geert Van Pamel (WMBE) 21:15, 24 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Done. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 01:38, 25 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have no idea if I've broken something or not...but I was trying to null-edit Translations:Wikimedia Bangladesh/Responsibilities/4/sv, and ended up doing this instead. When I then undid that edit (assuming it was a mistake, as I'd only intended to null-edit the page), it seems I also caused this to happen.

At this point I don't want to do anything more in case I accidentally break anything further, so I'd greatly appreciate it if someone with more knowledge about translations than me could take a look and fix anything that I might have broken. All the best, and apologies for causing problems! ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 21:41, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Inserting !!FUZZY!! on a translation page [1] causes the translated text to appear in a wrapper [2], marking it as not fully translated – which is correct in this Swedish translation, because some of the links are wrong and all of them are labelled as members, instead of mentioning roles like president etc. Johannnes89 (talk) 06:38, 27 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi,

Can someone please mark Movement Charter/Drafting Committee/Updates/Recommendations for next steps from the MCDC, and Farewell for translation for me, and activate the new addition in Movement Charter/Drafting Committee/Updates/MCDC process & ratification reflections? Thanks! Ciell (talk) 11:22, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Ciell Done. _signed, Aafi ^(talk) 16:02, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Could you please mark for translation, once again, the following pages:

• Event:Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium/2024
• Event:Wiki Loves Heritage Belgium/2024

We believe it should be the last update? Thanks a lot! --Geert Van Pamel (WMBE) 17:20, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Done. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 20:09, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello, please can you help us to mark this page ?

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiLinguila/reports

CapitainAfrika (talk) 14:54, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Done (duplicate). -- Pols12 (talk) 14:43, 8 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello fellow T-admins, I am attending the upcoming Wikimedia Technology Summit in Hyderbad, scheduled to take place in the first week of October. I have submitted a basic/medium workshop proposal around Translation administration which is available at WTS 2024/Submissions/Multiple languages & Internationalisation: Translation Administration on Wikimedia projects. I would appreciate any suggestions/opinions. Kind regards. _signed, Aafi ^(talk) 13:01, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Aafi: you're very welcome to get inspired from and reuse the materials for the workshop I gave at Wikimania 2024! You'll find the Google slides here (you can duplicate the doc or download a local version to edit as you please). Good luck with the workshop and thanks for spreading information about the translate extension! Auregann (talk) 07:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Can you mark the page Meta:Translation administrators for translation? ToadetteEdit (talk) 14:30, 6 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Done. Cookai🍪 _(💬talk) 14:52, 6 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

This is currently the oldest page pending marking for translation, with changes from June not marked. Could someone please deal with it appropriately? Thanks. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 20:46, 8 September 2024 (UTC)Reply