Meta:Requests for bot status/Millbot
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- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a closed Meta-Wiki request. Please do not modify it.
I realized that I need some bot activity here, on Meta. It should be strictly related to its own subpages and pages with explicit purpose of its activity. While I don't think that more then 50 edits per day would be usually needed (which would mean that bot flag wouldn't be necessary), it is possible that it will need to change 100+ pages at once, for which bot flag is necessary. --Millosh 19:25, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Millbot is multilingual bot which main purpose is keeping up to date multilingual content (like Template:Statistics on Wikinews is (which, for example, may be used for all WM projects). --Millosh 19:25, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Could you clarify exactly what pages this will be editing and for what purpose. Thanks. Adambro 19:49, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- As I already wrote, it will change pages under its name space, depending of design of my contemporary and future bots. For example, pages under User:Millbot/Localization are the part of such pages. --Millosh 20:47, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- And one personal ask for you, Adambro. If you are not able to make anything useful, please don't make life harder to people who are making something useful. This is not the place for being pain in the ass. --Millosh 20:47, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Whilst we may have disagreed on an issue in the past, don't misinterpret this query as an attempt to "make life harder", rather I am asking a question that if I didn't ask then someone else would. It worries me that someone who has just been made a steward cannot recognise this and instead starts making such daft comments not assuming good faith on the part of other contributors. Instead of making this into some kind of dispute where there is none, please try to explain what exactly these 100 edits would be. Adambro 21:38, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry, but I didn't see any constructive input from your side. All of my time spent in talk with you was wasted. I would really like to see you as a constructive member of the community, but this tautological question is just proving that you are still not constructive, again. Calling someone to have good faith without having good faith is hypocrisy. --Millosh 03:22, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Please Millosh, remain mellow... assume good faith, address the topic not the person, and be willing to explain when asked. I think Adambro is asking a reasonable question here. I read through what you've proposed and I don't quite understand what exactly the tasks your bot will be carrying out are either. ++Lar: t/c 14:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Hm. I really have to say sorry to Adambro. The most important thing in our bad relations was misunderstanding... Other things will go to his user talk page. (BTW, I realized that now, when I tried to explain why did I think that he has bad faith. After analyzing the whole thing again, I realized that both of us didn't understand each other. Firstly, I didn't understand him, then he thought that I am ignoring him, which was "just proving to me" that he has bad faith...) --Millosh 19:22, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Please Millosh, remain mellow... assume good faith, address the topic not the person, and be willing to explain when asked. I think Adambro is asking a reasonable question here. I read through what you've proposed and I don't quite understand what exactly the tasks your bot will be carrying out are either. ++Lar: t/c 14:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry, but I didn't see any constructive input from your side. All of my time spent in talk with you was wasted. I would really like to see you as a constructive member of the community, but this tautological question is just proving that you are still not constructive, again. Calling someone to have good faith without having good faith is hypocrisy. --Millosh 03:22, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Whilst we may have disagreed on an issue in the past, don't misinterpret this query as an attempt to "make life harder", rather I am asking a question that if I didn't ask then someone else would. It worries me that someone who has just been made a steward cannot recognise this and instead starts making such daft comments not assuming good faith on the part of other contributors. Instead of making this into some kind of dispute where there is none, please try to explain what exactly these 100 edits would be. Adambro 21:38, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- And answer related to the pages: I am not able to list now pages which would be changed by bot. Old page was User:Millbot/translations.py, I am moving pages under User:Millbot/Localization and its subpages; maybe in the future there will be another page maintained by more then one person and out of Millbot's name space. --Millosh 19:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- As noted above, your description of the bot's purpose is a little vague. How, exactly, will it be updating "multilingual content"? How many languages do you project it will be able to "speak", as such, and how far into the translative process are you? Thanks. --Anonymous DissidentTalk 04:36, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- You may see User:Millbot/translations.py. Currently it "speaks" (more or less) all Wikinews languages. I realized that I need community permission when I wanted to reorganize this file into something more user friendly (started at User:Millbot/Localization/language_names). For any other action in organizing localizations, I need automatic adding of config files/pages. Primary goal for the localizations of the bot are Wikinews languages. However, I am building framework for all Wikimedian languages, including easy way to add new languages. (Using only Wikinews languages is a good enough set of languages for testing, too.) You may see inside of the particular files how much of localization is done. However, my ultimate goal is to move bot (and not only my) localization to betawiki/translatewiki. Also, it should be noted that all periodical tasks from Millbot are run from Toolserver. ... I hope that I gave all needed answers. Of course, if you are interested in development of multilingual bot, I am more then interested to see other developers; as well as I am very interested in all kinds of constructive input. --Millosh 05:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Millosh, Can you show a few diffs or perform a supervised run (either with your own account or with the bot account, I don't care) on a handful of pages on meta? That would illustrate its utility, and help everybody understand if it needs the flag. Hillgentleman 22:46, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll add language names in the next couple of days. --Millosh 21:52, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Where do we stand on this? I don't see consensus yet... ++Lar: t/c 04:12, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I should show what the bot will work. However, I have an exam this Friday. I thought that I would be able to make it a couple of days earlier, but Talk:Wikicouncil took me a lot of time... --Millosh 07:18, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Any new activity or progress on this request or on showing what's intended? Thanks! ++Lar: t/c 03:49, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Still wondering about the status... perhaps an archive as stale is called for at some point. ++Lar: t/c 12:38, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Any new activity or progress on this request or on showing what's intended? Thanks! ++Lar: t/c 03:49, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, I see no reason not to grant bot-flag if the bot will work only in its own user namespace. --MiCkEdb 16:50, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have time now for programming a particular bot for showing what it should do. So, I am withdrawing my request for now. If I would still need a bot here (i.e., if I don't find some other place as a central one for my bot), I'll ask it here again. --Millosh 08:08, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]