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Latest comment: 11 days ago by Picard's Facepalm in topic October 2024

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Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:15, 2 May 2005 (UTC)Reply

Theo RFA

Thank you for supporting my candidacy.—Theo (Talk) 17:36, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Links to commercial sites, especially if they provide no information about the subject, are not appropriate for Wikipedia. This is an encyclopedia, not a fan site, and especially not a site to promote stuff for sale. Tverbeek 6 July 2005 12:46 (UTC)

It's also considered rude to delete messages from your Talk page, especially without responding to them. Deleting only critical comments is particuarly inappropriate. Tverbeek 6 July 2005 17:08 (UTC)


I didn't think there was a need to respond. I won't do it again - I was more concerned with the actual fact -that people make these fake buttons - than with that specific site, and using the site as an example. I thought I had the commercial site rule covered by having it as a source/reference/proof/example, whatever you want to call it. But if it's not ok, than it's that fine. I'll delete them from the other pages they're still on too, also because the links were not only commercial, but dead. I

I delete the comments, those that address a certain issue, once I have "dealt" with them. I leave the neutral ones because I usually don't have to "deal" with them in any way. If I had the time to figure out how to do it, I would probably have it all in an archive, like other people do, but I just don't right now. And of course, it's all still in the history, so anyone can check anything there. --newsjunkie 6 July 2005 19:30 (UTC)

Same Newsjunkie?

Just wondering, are you the same "Newsjunkie" who runs The West Wing News Blog? - Scm83x 02:55, 22 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Peer review for The West Wing

I have started a peer review of The West Wing at Wikipedia:Peer review/The West Wing (television) and I inviite you to take part in the discussion and help make the necessary changes as the community as a whole reviews the work that we have all done together on this article. Thank you very much for your work on the article! -Scm83x 06:59, 24 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

TWW The Debate

Did The West Wing live debate broadcast two episodes, one for the East and one for the West, or did they rebroadcast the East Coast feed as I had seen talk of on the TWOP? Thanks! -Scm83x 05:30, 10 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

FAC for The West Wing (television)

I have put The West Wing article up as a candidate for featured article status. I appreciate your help in this article's peer review. Your input and support in the FAC located here would be appreciated! Thanks! -Scm83x 08:55, 5 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

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What was your reasoning for removing the courtesy blank on Nicole Santos Facebook Hack? Inks.LWC (talk) 08:39, 12 May 2011 (UTC) I felt it was significant because it seemed unusual and something people could use info about. But I guess, we'll see how how much play it gets in the news tomorrow....--newsjunkie (talk) 09:11, 12 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Blue Bloods

Thank you for your help. I tried to fix the problem, but couldn't see what it was until after you fixed it. 209.226.247.8 (talk) 02:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for adding rest of the writers, I admit I was a little too lazy to do it myself. newsjunkie (talk) 02:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

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The West Wing

I applaud your efforts with adding content to West Wing-related articles, but could you please be more aware of how you add the content, and to do it to adhere to Wikipedia MOS formatting. I see you've been here for almost 20 years, you should be aware of formatting a citation using Template:Cite web. I've cleaned-up your entries over 20 times now and it's getting fairly tiresome. I've noted in my edit summaries of your issues, but you've yet to rectify any of these ongoing problems. You continually put commas after the ref tags (such as here which I fixed). You also put spaces before closing ref tags as I noticed in recent edits to The West Wing season 1, which is incorrect. With your recent edits to the season articles, you use the same reference almost a dozen times; you need to use ref names to avoid duplicate citations. Also, realistically, all that award information should just be in the Accolades subsection, because the ShortSummary parameter is just meant for a plot synopsis. If you feel you can merge that content into the Accolades subsection, that'd be great. I'll happily collaborate with you, I'm just looking for some cooperation in terms of your formatting issues. Thank you so much. Drovethrughosts (talk) 12:40, 19 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

I think the awards information should also be tied to the episode information if it was episode-specific, because a lot of people are just going to be looking at the specific episode information and by putting it by the episode, it shows to viewers immediately which episodes/performances received particular recognition all tied together in multiple categories, rather than an isolated way, especially since there aren't episode pages for most episodes or if they are interested in watching particular episodes that got recognition. And I only did the Emmys for now in this case, but there are individual episodes that got other awards as well, and I think that information is most helpful when tied to a specific episode so people reading about a particular episode can immediately see that it also won/was submitted as part of a nomination and don't have to scroll back up and down and can also see performance win/nominations in the context of plot summary. newsjunkie (talk) 16:20, 19 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I think I've probably added most of the information I felt was missing for now and other than incorporating this week's White House event if nobody else does it I probably won't have too much to add for a while unless there a lot more developments/appearances. newsjunkie (talk) 16:37, 19 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I understand where you're coming from, even though I disagree; the ShortSummary parameter is for a plot synopsis, not production or other information. It's why there's a section for accolades, etc. It's actually more efficient to have all the information in one section, as opposed to the lengthy episode table where you'd have to constantly scroll up and down and you could possibly miss one of the "notes" because they're tacked onto the episode summary. However, I'm not going to dispute this further, as we're talking about a 25-year old TV show. But, I noticed you completely glossed over my main concerns about your editing habits (bare URL refs, incorrect formatting, etc.), which is troubling. Another editor below has also commented on it. I hope going forward you can recognize the mistakes and fix them; all you have to do is look any of the edits I made and see what I've corrected. Thanks again. Drovethrughosts (talk) 12:52, 20 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I understand the concern about the commas and I will try to copy that more, but the guidelines on bare URLs do also say "Adding a bare URL reference to Wikipedia is much more helpful than no reference. If you only have the time and inclination to copy the reference URL you found, that is a helpful first step, and we thank you for your contribution!". And while I think it's fine to summarize accolades at the bottom, I think it's also really additionally informative to display the information by episode if there is a specific episode reference because it helps people see which were the significant episodes in a way that would not necessarily become as clear if only enumerated separately at the bottom. (And I think it's more likely people would just look at the episodes part if they are watching/looking up a specific one and not bother to look at the accolades section at all.) newsjunkie (talk) 16:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Bare URL references / citing methodology

Greetings, I notice that when editing and adding references you add what is known as a Bare URL. Simply putting a URL in between <ref> and </ref> tags is not the appropriate or complete method for citing published or web news sources. It results in other editors having to come in behind your additions and complete the remainder of the tags and clean up the references you have added. This is somewhat disruptive and unless other active and proficient editors are watching all those articles and the edits you make - some of those references may not end up having been completed afterwards.

To help avoid both situations, there are features in the editor to aid you in properly completing the cite fields - you can see a drop-down menu above the editor, labelled "Cite". Please make sure you thoroughly review the Bare URL link above, WP:CITE and Help:Citation_Style_1#Online_sources and use the available aids and tools to help you properly fill in and complete the necessary citation fields. This also helps preventing the need for other editors to come in behind you and clean up the references, while also improving your proficiency as a regular WP editor.

If you have any questions or need further assistance to begin providing complete citations - please feel free to reach out to me. Thanks --Picard's Facepalm Made It So Engage! 13:58, 19 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hey! Hate to pile on – glad that you're showing an interest in The West Wing, I love that show – but i should point out that the scribd external links probably run afoul of WP:COPYLINK, as I doubt those are authorized-for-publishing versions of the script. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 04:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

I feel like scripts are in more of a grey area than actual episode footage, since scripts are often sold on ebay for example and so people get them legitimately second-hand and don't seem to be under restrictions on what they can do with them. And I've never heard of any legal action against original movie or TV scripts posted online for already released content (versus legal action against actual TV/movie footage/filesharing etc) newsjunkie (talk) 05:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Also I think there is some precedent in allowing them to be available for educational purposes. newsjunkie (talk) 05:17, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

September 2024

Information icon  Hello, I'm Picard's Facepalm. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Blue Bloods (TV series), but you didn't provide a reliable source. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. I have previously advised above as to properly filling out the references. Simply adding a bare URL is not the correct method. Please refer to the previous notice to avoid future notifications and warnings. --Picard's Facepalm Made It So Engage! 15:29, 26 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

All the sources I added were reliable and no source was removed as far as far as I can tell. As the page on "bare URL" itself states. "Adding a bare URL reference to Wikipedia is much more helpful than no reference. If you only have the time and inclination to copy the reference URL you found, that is a helpful first step, and we thank you for your contribution!" newsjunkie (talk) 16:19, 26 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I have fixed the previous notification, as indeed there was nothing removed. My apologies for that oversight on my part when I first posted the notification.
While you did quote part of the guideline from the Bare URL link above - you missed the 2nd half of the guideline, and the totality of the scope of the guideline as a result:
"[...] please note that a bare URL reference is also much less helpful than a fully formatted citation. Please help readers and editors by using full citations instead."
It is clear that you certainly have ample time as evidenced by your visiting the reference source in the first place, compounded by the sheer number of edits you are conducting. Please ensure you are following the totality of the guideline, while also seizing the opportunity to notably improve your proficiency as a contributor by completing full citations to the articles you add them to. With the Cite editing tool at the top of the editor window - it takes approximately 15-20 seconds to do, using the information already provided on the source page you are referencing from. It can easily be done utilizing the same copy-paste method you use now for adding the bare URLs. Thanks. --Picard's Facepalm Made It So Engage! 14:44, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Greetings, you are continuing to add bare URLs as references. Please refer to the discussion above as well as the full context of WP:BAREURL to ensure the proper addition of references. Thanks. --Picard's Facepalm Made It So Engage! 01:51, 13 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Newsroom

It seems to me your edit summary here, suggesting Sadoski's comment "speaks to widespread critical/mocking reception of series not yet mentioned anywhere else" is your perspective of the meaningfulness of his off-hand remark. How is that not WP:OR? Whether the actor is surprised of the existence of a meme is trivia. If there was a RS that covered the presence and impact of the meme or relfected on the "widespread critical/mocking reception" you suggest, then that's a different story... --ZimZalaBim talk 19:19, 6 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

To me the article is itself a "reliable source" covering the "presence and impact of the meme". Why would they ask him about it otherwise (especially 10 years later!)? newsjunkie (talk) 19:22, 6 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
It's not an "off-hand remark" they asked him about it specifically and wrote a whole article about it newsjunkie (talk) 19:24, 6 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Malory Towers

BUYtv is the OFFICIAL USA channel and co-producer of the series, so their airdates SHOULD count. –ACase0000 (talk) 23:48, 6 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Maybe it should be a talk page discussion but just for consistency in that table it seemed to make sense to stick with the BBC airing (as the country where it's from originally and where it's based). Somebody else has added the U.S. air dates for the new episodes in the other table below. newsjunkie (talk) 00:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

October 2024

Information icon  Please do not add or change content, as you did at Blue Bloods (TV series), without properly citing reliable sources. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and Wikipedia:BAREURL and take the opportunity to properly add references to the article. Please make sure you also review WP:CITE and Help:Citation_Style_1#Online_sources and use the available aids and tools to help you quickly and properly fill in and complete the necessary citation fields. This also helps preventing the need for other editors to come in behind you and clean up the references, while also improving your proficiency as a regular WP editor.Thank you. --Picard's Facepalm Made It So Engage! 23:43, 16 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

All the sources were reliable: Newsday and TVLine. newsjunkie (talk) 23:44, 16 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
As explained repeatedly above - they were not properly cited. --Picard's Facepalm Made It So Engage! 23:46, 16 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
The beauty of Wikipedia is that anyone can contribute with as much or as little time as they feel able to dedicate. newsjunkie (talk) 02:20, 17 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
It is clear that you certainly have ample time as evidenced by your visiting the reference source in the first place, compounded by the sheer number of edits you are conducting. Please ensure you are following the totality of the guideline, while also seizing the opportunity to notably improve your proficiency as a contributor by completing full citations to the articles you add them to. With the Cite editing tool at the top of the editor window - it takes approximately 15-20 seconds to do, using the information already provided on the source page you are referencing from. It can easily be done utilizing the same copy-paste method you use now for adding the bare URLs. Thanks. --Picard's Facepalm Made It So Engage! 14:24, 17 October 2024 (UTC)Reply


Information icon  Please do not add or change content, as you did at Blue Bloods (TV series), without properly citing reliable sources. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and Wikipedia:BAREURL and take the opportunity to properly add references to the article. Please make sure you also review WP:CITE and Help:Citation_Style_1#Online_sources and use the available aids and tools to help you quickly and properly fill in and complete the necessary citation fields. This also helps preventing the need for other editors to come in behind you and clean up the references, while also improving your proficiency as a regular WP editor.

Additionally, please be sure not to include tracking & metadata portions of the URLs that you use for references. The raw, shortened URL, ending in ".html" to the exact, cited source is what is necessary - none of the ancillary tracking & meta info which leads back to the original site which held the link you may have clicked on. This information may possibly be used to attain Personally Identifiable Information (PII) about you and your browsing when publicly viewable, so it is in your best interest to ensure this information is trimmed from your reference URLs. Thanks. --Picard's Facepalm Made It So Engage! 01:30, 20 October 2024 (UTC)Reply