Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Loh Teo Kwong

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The result was delete. Mkdw ^talk 02:46, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Loh Teo Kwong

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Doesn't meet WP:MANOTE and lacks the significant independent coverage required by WP:GNG. A high rank is not enough to show notability.Mdtemp (talk) 17:24, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep: The fact that he is the youngest person (and first non-Korean) to receive a 9th dan and as a twice European champion from the WTF certainly seems to indicate some degree of notability. Might as well go delete since I can't find anymore sources. YoungIreland (talk) 21:58, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above points, properly referenced, should be added to the article.Peter Rehse (talk) 22:03, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, have added another neutral reference relating to him being the first non-Korean. YoungIreland(talk) 22:36, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How about one for twice European champion.Peter Rehse (talk) 22:32, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Getting a neutral source on that will be a bit more difficult and will take time. YoungIreland(talk) 22:08, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Even without references I would put that information along with the years into the article.Peter Rehse (talk) 22:43, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done.YoungIreland(talk) 22:45, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment The claim of winning back to back European titles needs to be sourced or removed. I have some issues with the sources currently in the article because they aren't enough to meet WP:GNG and his rank is irrelevant for notability purposes. Here are my comments on the 6 sources:

1. He's not mentioned on the web page that's linked to.

2. Passing mention as running his organization's tournament.

3. His bio at his club's website.

4. Passing mention that he visited a particular club.

5. Blog where anyone can post.

6. Brief interview with local paper. Papaursa (talk) 21:20, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails MANOTE and sources aren't enough to meet GNG.204.126.132.231 (talk) 19:22, 13 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 00:22, 16 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

* Keep There are good sources. Ashbeckjonathan (talk) 19:33, 16 December 2013 (UTC) I'll just go for delete then if there are no good reliable sources. Ashbeckjonathan (talk) 15:15, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Would you please tell me what those good sources are? The ones mentioned in the article certainly don't qualify as significant independent coverage. Papaursa (talk) 00:11, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There's a lack of significant coverage and there's nothing to support claims of back-to-back European championships. If he did win some titles in 1979 and 1980, they weren't from the WTF. The WTF didn't hold a European championship in 1979 and he's not even listed as a medalist in the 1980 results [1]. Papaursa (talk) 04:10, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete European Champion twice in 1979 and 1980: would be notable but there are no reliable references. jmcw (talk) 15:05, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I agree with Jmcw37--fails GNG and MANOTE.Mdtemp (talk) 16:47, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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