Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dave Roberts (English footballer)

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The result was keep. Beyond NFOOTY, for a footballer playing almost 100 years ago, sufficient sources have been provided to indicate GNG, even going back that far. Fenix down (talk) 13:35, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dave Roberts (English footballer)

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Fails WP:NFOOTBALL having never played outside whatever the Republic of Ireland was called then or a senior international game. Fails WP:GNG also. Dougal18 (talk) 21:30, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete a non-notable footballer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:37, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I haven't found any sources of my own since I don't have paid access to Irish historical newspapers, but I struggle to believe the League of Ireland top scorer and someone who scored the winning goal in an Irish cup final would fail WP:GNG. Per WP:NEXIST, typing "Dave Roberts" into www.irishnewsarchive.com and limiting the results to 1923-1926 brought up a couple results. SportingFlyer T·C 23:47, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I wonder if the fact that he played for the League of Ireland XI at a time when its games were seen as highly significant (and almost as internationals) in the Republic of Ireland gives him enough notability? Dunarc (talk) 20:31, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As the article now suggests he played in Football League I think there is definitely a strong case for Keep. Dunarc (talk) 20:50, 27 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comments: I am almost persuaded to agree with User:SportingFlyer. I will surmise the subject is not alive so not a BLP. The sources are a bit sketchy on birth and possible death dates but with all the totally non-notable live players having articles I could see this as historical. Otr500 (talk) 06:16, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Passes WP:NFOOTBALL because he played in the English Football League for Walsall before going to Ireland. Added to his achivements already mentioned: top-scoring in the LoI while playing for the title-winners, scoring for the winning side in the Cup Final, and 3 appearances for the League of Ireland XI, and some individual coverage which I've added to the article, there's enough to suggest a GNG pass. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:36, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep Struway2 updates certainly help, if that's right he passes WP:NFOOTBALL for playing when Div 3 was divided into North and South. Govvy (talk) 15:23, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - per Struway2. Giant Snowman 15:56, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - per Struway2. If he played in the English Football League at a time when it was the top level league in England, that should be enough pass WP:NFOOTBALL on its own; his career in Ireland also seems notable. GirthSummit _(blether) 10:11, 27 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as above. Played in the English Football League. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:23, 27 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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