Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brendan Townsend

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The result was delete. If anyone wants the page userfied to them please let me know. J04n(talk page) 10:48, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Brendan Townsend

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This one's marginal because he's not a nobody, but I suspect he falls just the wrong side of the notability line and would welcome more experienced eyes on it. He's the kind of guy who gets quoted in the newspapers when promoting his orchestra's concerts but he doesn't seem to be famous enough to get articles about him. The only edit of User:Btlpo1 was to start this article on Brendan Townsend of the Laredo Philharmonic Orchestra so I think it's safe to say we're dealing with an autobiography. Le Deluge (talk) 22:50, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Neutral I suspect that the many descriptions of his concerts and performances in the local news would pass WP:ARTIST, but they're behind a paywall (the Laredo Morning Times). In any case, the current biography is effectively unsourced. The link doesn't point where it claims to, so WP:BLPPROD may apply. Ray^Talk 15:40, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's starting to sound like many descriptions of a local pizza restaurant in local newspapers, I know WP:ORGDEPTH doesn't apply to people but in this case I don't get much sense of his notability independent of the orchestra, it's not like we're dealing with a Daniel Barenboim or Simon Rattle who have significant notability in their own right. So that suggests to me that at best we're looking at merging a bit about Townsend into the article on the Laredo Philharmonic Orchestra - the fact that noone has bothered to create such an article, in combination with the big whiff of WP:COI, was what pushed me over the edge on the side of deletion.Le Deluge (talk) 17:34, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: A single ASCAP award (which while important isn't too difficult to achieve) is not enough. The list of soloists worked with or orchestras conducted does not contain sufficiently prominent names to suggest that he is being sought after by top musicians. One does not need to be Barenboim or Rattle to have a WP biography as a conductor, but not all conductors make the bar. No refs, so BLPPROD could have been done instead, but as long as we're here... -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 02:36, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - He is mentioned or quoted but I'm not seeing significant coverage about him. This article from the Topeka Capital-Journal is teh best coverage I could find, and it is an interview with a good chunk of the article quoting him directly making this amarginal source. -- Whpq (talk) 16:22, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
userify What is needed for an article like this is reviews of performances or recordings. There are quite a number of local reviews in GNews Archive, and being behind a paywall is no treason not to get them and use them. However, that they are entirely regional is roughly equivalent to the minor leagues in baseball. We usually put the cutoff above this. DGG ( talk ) 05:53, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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