- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete and salt. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 04:51, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
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- Okezue Bell (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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Persistent COI/UPE, has been deleted and draftified time and again and constantly recreated/yanked back into mainspace. It's been G11'd twice (it would have been three times, but mine was denied) and for good reason. A raft of references all of which are dubious/suspect/passing/primary are provided to attest to the brilliance of this "inventor, scientist and engineer, and science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) promoter, as well as a social activist." - subject is still at school. Enough is enough. Delete and SALT for the love of Mike... Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:46, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Academics and educators, Nigeria, and United States of America. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:46, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
- Comment For your convenience, the page log! Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:50, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
- See pages like Gitanjali Rao (scientist), who is also still at school. All the sources of the page are validated and there is no conflict of interest, as I, the author of this page have no connection with Okezue Bell. The subject has also raised significant sums of money for startup projects that have been piloted around the globe and his work has already been identified by Google: https://g.co/kgs/T1okTz. He is also on several global forums, including a board with Leonardo DiCaprio: https://perfectday.com/sustainability-council/ (where he also founded the panel of students on the board) and a central feature on the NASDAQ: https://thecenter.nasdaq.org/foe-okezue-bell-fidutam/, among several other international honors, clearly indicating notoriety. There is also an encyclopedic tone used throughout the article, never sounding laudatory and is completely objective...it seems as though your only reasoning for deleting the page is that it the subject is young.
- Also note that previous deletions were due to a non-encyclopedic tone and other issues with the page content, not the subject itself, as you're suggesting. This article should NOT be deleted. 1033307869edits (talk) 05:59, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I'm the admin who declined the CSD G11 deletion. I wasn't aware of the article's history. But when I reviewed the page, it wasn't the typical page that gets tagged as advertising and promotional. I thought it could use a more deliberate review here at AFD where the citations could be examined rather than a quickie page deletion. Liz Read! Talk! 06:07, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
- To be clear, Liz I make no complaint, I agreed with your rationale and held off AfD purely as I consider it a final solution. Every other avenue having been explored, we're here... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:20, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete The only reliable source is Sundiata Post but that is a press release so not independent ("he is described as...."). I also noted the Shiqiperi Gazette cites Sundiata as their source so is a circular source. The Forbes article was written by a contributor rather than staff so not a reliable source, nor is Getting Smart (they are a consulting firm which offers marketing services,). Other sources are brief mentions, blogs which are generally considered unreliable, or interviews or his publications which are not independent. I checked Google News and Proquest but did not find any significant coverage about him. He is accomplished but I do not find he currently meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. S0091 (talk) 14:59, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - then salt so that it must go through AfC if at some point in the future they meet GNG, and to discourage the persistent UPE. Currently, fails WP:GNG.Onel5969 TT me 08:48, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- I agree it should be salted given the history. S0091 (talk) 13:57, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - per nom. SMBMovieFan (talk) 00:52, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV. The source analysis by the nominator is accurate. WP:SALT to prevent future problems as this has been a chronic issue.4meter4 (talk) 01:48, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
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