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Monarchy of Ceylon (1948–1972)

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WP:CONTENTFORK. A previous RfC at Talk:Monarchy of Ceylon#RfC: Merge and disambiguate found that this topic is the same as Dominion of Ceylon. DrKay (talk) 07:23, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History and Sri Lanka. DrKay (talk) 07:23, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep: This article is about the institution of the monarchy, not the dominion or the country. Not to mention that almost all realms, former and current, have their respective monarchy/queen pages. As sourced in the article, British monarchs were acclaimed monarchs of Ceylon as successors of sovereigns of the ancient Sinhalese kingdom. Native monarchs are covered at Sinhalese monarchy. The discussion at Talk:Monarchy of Ceylon reflected that the term "Monarchy of Ceylon" may also refer to pre-colonial monarchs of Ceylon, and hence parenthetical disambiguation is used for Monarchy of Ceylon (1948–1972), similar to the situation at Monarchy of Nigeria (1960–1963). Peter Ormond 💬 07:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose any merge: A merger with the dominion article would make all the content of this comprehensive article restricted to a paragraph or two under WP:WEIGHT, as there were other events and aspects to the Dominion of Ceylon, such as the 1953 Ceylonese Hartal, the Bandaranaike–Chelvanayakam Pact, the 1962 Ceylonese coup attempt, the 1966 alleged Ceylonese coup attempt, and the 1971 JVP insurrection. Peter Ormond 💬 07:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The RFC was in 2015 and consisted of one nomination and one agree vote. It's hardly a landslide. The content in this new article, Monarchy of Ceylon, (BTW, a very well researched, structured and written article IMHO) is substantively different to that in Dominion of Ceylon AFAICS. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 08:00, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Royalty and nobility-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 11:50, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but consider changing the article title ~~or merge to Dominion of Ceylon~~. Applying WP:CONTENTFORK. This article has different content and sources to Dominion of Ceylon and I haven't come across evidence of disputed POV content leading to a fork; thus, I'm ruling out delete. However, it seems to cover the same period/topic as an existing article and the nominator made a fair case in the 2015 talk page RfC for a merge because of ambiguous title. Eventhough, this article is well written, sourced and more comprehensive than the existing article, the new content could conceivably have been added to the existing article. DrKay are you advocating for a merge rather than deletion? Rupples (talk) 23:04, 8 November 2024 (UTC) Updated. Rupples (talk) 06:50, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. For example, there's a history section and a list of monarchs at both articles. There's also a history section at History of Sri Lanka (1948–present)#Dominion (1948–1972) and a list of monarchs at List of heads of state of Sri Lanka#Monarch (1948–1972). I don't see why we have all this content triplicated. DrKay (talk) 09:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
List of monarchs has been removed from Dominion of Ceylon and List of heads of state of Sri Lanka. The content in the history section at History of Sri Lanka (1948–present)#Dominion (1948–1972) covers only the important events of that period, and is different from Monarchy of Ceylon (1948–1972)#History which focuses on the development of shared monarchy within the Commonwealth. Peter Ormond 💬 09:35, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Given that some of the duplication has now been removed, a full merge of this article would unbalance the Dominion one, so this can be retained as a separate article. However, should the title of this article be changed? DrKay's "wikipedia neologism" argument in the RfC is compelling. Perhaps change to British Monarchy of Ceylon (1948-1972)? To me, Monarchy of Ceylon implies an indigenous King or Queen. Rupples (talk) 06:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article title is consistent with those of other Dominion monarchy pages. Parenthetical disambiguation already distinguishes this topic from native monarchs; Monarchy of Ceylon has existed as a disambiguation page since 2015. Also, "British" monarchy in Ceylon ended with Ceylonese independence in 1948. See Commonwealth realm#Crown's role. Peter Ormond 💬 06:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as per Peter Ormond's comments, in that this is clearly distinctive article, which isn't replicated in either of the other two articles. Dan arndt (talk) 02:47, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]