Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manolis Kapelonis

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:46, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Manolis Kapelonis

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Both this Article and Giorgos Fountoulis should be placed under an article concerning their murder. Individual articles do not seem useful or give these men notability. Tco03displays (talk) 02:45, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, the article seems like a stub right now and you guys are kind of revert warring it. I was going to request page protection until I saw the AfD (really like 9 unconstructive edits since it was created today?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NDKilla (talk • contribs) 02:56, 3 December 2013 (UTC) My bad for not signing. Whoops.[reply]

I was very skeptical of the articles due to the nature of the topic - both of them contained clear language indicating that the article was sympathetic to the far right, unsupported assertions, lack of referencing etc. Due to the sensitivity of the topic I watched it closely and tagged it early. However the topic is noticeable and should be included. If the two articles are merged into a single one regarding the murder of these two Golden Dawn members, we may be able to reach a neutral point of view through the editing process. But by having two semi-biographical articles we will not cover the notability of the topic. --Tco03displays (talk) 03:06, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I and the people WORLDWIDE are not stand by the TERRORISTS. What is this? Support to a far-right? We have two Victims so please do me a favor... --Katcheic (talk) 03:32, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've told you repeatedly. Read the guidelenines and rules of how t write and article and how to use appropriate sources. You seem to ignore me every singe time, and the minor corrections I make are reverted again and again. This is Wikipedia. if the article tends to look biased, have a tone that is inappropriate and the sources are unreliable it has to be fixed as soon as possible. Do not the sensitivity card against me. Here we have an article that is indeed sensitive, two people have recently died, a whole society was shocked, and the subject is so close historically that is still controversial. And you pop up, creating two semi-biographical articles on wikipedia with questionable primary sources, for the sake of describing the murders. I create a page for the murders combining your information because I considered the subject notable, and you keep on making edits that have no neutral point of view, use inappropriate words such as "etc" and revert my edits when I explain in every edit what the mistake/reasoning was. If you think the subject is sensitive, try treating the article with a bit of respect.--Tco03displays (talk) 16:26, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

n regards to the article for deletion, all the relevant material has been moved to Terrorist attrack to Neo Iraklio Golden Down office which is at the moment mostly edited by me and Katcheic, in a rather heated way. --Tco03displays (talk) 16:13, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 13:15, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 13:15, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 13:16, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:16, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete They are just not notable for even one event Perhaps one or two lines on a general terrorism article, such as Terrorism in Greece. Wikipedia is not a memorial, and this does not improve the encyclopedia. Dloh cierekim 16:24, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that the article has been redirected (more than once, but lastly) to Terrorist attrack to Neo Iraklio Golden Down office.(sic) I proposed that article be merged to Terrorism in Greece. Dloh cierekim 16:39, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a bad idea. We could include Terrorist attrack to Neo Iraklio Golden Down office within Terrorism in Greece and delete the individual articles for the victims and the article Terrorist attrack to Neo Iraklio Golden Down office. I was not aware of the article. If the section becomes too long it could become a separate article but I doubt it. --Tco03displays (talk) 22:13, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Since someone thought them significant enough to create the article, someone might come looking for them by name. Would leave originals as R to wherever the info winds up. Dloh cierekim 22:25, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note apparently now at Murder of Manolis Fountoulis and Giorgos Kapelonis to Neo Iraklio Golden Down officesic. Dloh cierekim 22:34, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note A significant discussion that affects this article as well is taking place at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Giorgos Fountoulis.

I propose to make both articles about Giorgos Fountoulis and Manolis Kapelonis a simple redirection to the main article Murder of Manolis Fountoulis and Giorgos Kapelonis to Neo Iraklio Golden Down office... But first we have to take a decision about the main article itself...-- Montjoie-Saint-Denis !!! ^talk 02:48, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please delete both this article and Giorgos Fountoulis. Subject matter is covered in Attack at Golden Dawn Office on 1 November, 2013 --Tco03displays (talk) 09:07, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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