Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 10

November 10

Category:Supermarkets of Algeria

Propose merging Category:Supermarkets of Algeria to Category:Supermarkets by country

Nominator's rationale: Category containing only a list article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 19:34, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dual merge, also to Category:Food retailers of Algeria. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:53, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Internet memes from China

Propose renaming Category:Internet memes from China to Category:Internet memes introduced from China

Nominator's rationale: To match the naming convention in Category:Internet memes by country. Iostn (talk) 17:33, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per WP:C2C, this could have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:54, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Football-stub

Propose deleting Template:Football-stub (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Template:Gridironfootball-stub (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Both depreciated and no longer used anywhere on articles. Both stub templates have been replaced with more specific stub templates for the various types of football articles. The Football-stub was being used on one article which I removed it from and replaced it with a more relevant one. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Organisations based in Latvia by city

Propose merging Category:Organisations based in Latvia by city to Category:Organisations based in Latvia and Category:Organizations by city
Propose merging Category:Companies of Latvia by city to Category:Companies of Latvia and Category:Companies by city

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer, only contains the capital Riga. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:12, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Film scores by composer

Propose renaming Category:Film scores by composer to Category:Films scored by composer
Propose renaming Category:Film scores by composer nationality to Category:Films scored by composer nationality
Propose renaming Category:Film scores by women composers to Category:Films scored by women composers

Nominator's rationale: The current name does not reflect the category’s content. It includes articles about films only, not about scores or soundtracks. The current state also creates issues with transitivity. Solidest (talk) 10:55, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename, aligning with the format of all subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:51, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom. Tijd-jp (talk) 14:51, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per above. Thanks. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 17:27, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Gardening books

Propose renaming Category:Gardening books to Category:Books about gardening

Nominator's rationale: I suggest renaming to use 'about', per parent Category:Works about gardening. This variant is more clear. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:47, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Alcohol-related deaths in the Kingdom of Tahiti

Propose merging Category:Alcohol-related deaths in the Kingdom of Tahiti to Category:Alcohol-related deaths

Nominator's rationale: merge, only two articles in the category, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:04, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. ^SMason_Garrison 22:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:1954–55 Montreal Canadiens season

Propose deleting Category:1954–55 Montreal Canadiens season (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: I could not find any other example of a professional sports team season getting its own category in any of the Northern American major leagues. There seems to be no other examples of a category being made for this even under similar circumstances (e.g. the Vancouver Canucks where all three of their finals appearances have the loosely-related articles of Towel Power (1982), 1994 Stanley Cup riot, and 2011 Stanley Cup riot). It is inconsistent and seems to fail WP:OVERCAT. RedBlueGreen93 08:01, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Translators of the Quran into Somali

Propose splitting Category:Translators of the Quran into Somali to Category:Quran translators and Category:Translators to Somali

Nominator's rationale: underpopulated category. 2x merge for now ^SMason_Garrison 02:57, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just delete, I don't see anything about translation in the article. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:54, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm fine with deletion. For the record, the creator @QalasQalas has made comments on their talk page about the category.^SMason_Garrison 22:16, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle Please don't delete it because in a draft biographies page translated from Wikipedia Arabic to link this category, @Smasongarrison thanks. QalasQalas (talk) 22:50, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's not a reason to keep a category. ^SMason_Garrison 23:12, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:January 2005 events in Puntland

Propose renaming Category:January 2005 events in Puntland to Category:January 2005 events in Somalia

Nominator's rationale: Convert into the broader country rather than the state ^SMason_Garrison 02:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Category:January 2005 events in Africa, which is also very underpopulated. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:56, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Even better. ^SMason_Garrison 22:16, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Death in Mogadishu

Propose deleting Category:Death in Mogadishu (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia:Overcategorization#Intersection by location. Also, there is only one page here, which isn't helpful for navigation. ^SMason_Garrison 02:33, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nominator.Lost in Quebec (talk) 14:46, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, we do not put articles directly in death by location categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:58, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Mogadishu Central Prison

Propose deleting Category:Mogadishu Central Prison (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: There is one page about an event here; there is not even an eponymous page Mogadishu Central Prison ^SMason_Garrison 02:29, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:59, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination and also delete Category:Prisons in Somalia, the parent category, which only has the nominated category as a member. Gedrose (talk) 19:53, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Astronomy research agencies in the Antarctic

Propose splitting Category:Astronomy research agencies in the Antarctic to Category:Antarctica research agencies and Category:Astronomy in the Antarctic

Nominator's rationale: Merge for now. Narrow underpopulated category. ^SMason_Garrison 02:18, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly merge to Category:Antarctica research agencies, per nom. I wonder if the article belongs in the second merge target though. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:01, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My thinking is that the subject being studied by these agencies etc would be about Astronomy in the Antarctic ^SMason_Garrison 22:18, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Deaths in the French colonial empire

Propose deleting Category:Deaths in the French colonial empire (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer ^SMason_Garrison 02:00, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Merging is not needed, the subcategory is already part of Category:Deaths by former country. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:07, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Animal deaths in Ohio

Propose merging Category:Animal deaths in Ohio to Category:Animal deaths in the United States

Nominator's rationale: Isolated category. There's only one state like this, it's not helpful for navigation ^SMason_Garrison 01:58, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:07, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Suicides in the United States by location

Propose merging Category:Suicides in the United States by location to Category:Suicides in the United States

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. These categories would be more helpful in the parent category ^SMason_Garrison 01:56, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:08, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:State urban development authorities of India

Propose renaming Category:State urban development authorities of India to Category:Urban development authorities in India

Nominator's rationale: Of the 64 articles in the category, only 7 are state authorities. The rest are a mixture of city, town and metropolitan area authorities. It would make the category name more accurate by removing the "State" identifier Gedrose (talk) 01:19, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom. Also re-parent to Category:Government agencies of India instead of state agencies. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:10, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American slave trade

Propose merging Category:American slave trade to Category:Slavery in the Americas

Nominator's rationale: Seems to cover the same scope BaduFerreira (talk) 20:41, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is about slave trade so it is more specific than slavery. However it is questionable if diffusion by continent makes a lot of sense, see the content of Category:African slave trade. I would rather propose to merge all continent categories to Category:Slave trade. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:57, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk • he/they) 00:28, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lean oppose. Per Marco Procedurally, the merge target is too broad. ^SMason_Garrison 02:01, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Important Cultural Properties of Obama City

Propose merging Category:Important Cultural Properties of Obama City to Category:Important Cultural Properties of Fukui Prefecture

Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation. There's not a Obama City parent category ^SMason_Garrison 14:26, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative: repurpose to Category:Buildings and structures in Obama, Fukui, there are quite a few articles in Category:Obama, Fukui that could also be moved into a buildings category. If merged, dual merge also to Category:Obama, Fukui. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:15, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's suggestions?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk • he/they) 00:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like a good solution to me ^SMason_Garrison 02:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Kenton, Devon

Propose merging Category:Kenton, Devon to Category:East Devon District

Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article and an article about a historic property, better categorised in the district category. AusLondonder (talk) 17:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge ~~per nom~~ to Category:Teignbridge per below. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:00, 2 November 2024 (UTC) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:13, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It may have scope for expansion as its quite a large parish but it may be better to wait until we have more articles. Note that the target should be Category:Teignbridge not Category:East Devon District as Kenton is in Teignbridge district[1]. I made an error back in 2018. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Crouch, Swale's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk • he/they) 00:04, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Whitnash

Propose deleting Category:Whitnash (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article and a biography, both are already appropriately categorised. Unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 17:57, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:59, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep I've added 2 more articles and it now has a sub category and given its a town it probably is appropriate to have a category for it. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:09, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Crouch, Swale's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk • he/they) 00:04, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The biography does not belong here, per WP:COPSEP, it is appropriately in Category:Clergy from Warwickshire. The football club (article and subcategory) is likely to move away from Whitnash soon, it is barely a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: perhaps we need more guidance on the number of pages a topic category or other categories should contain/could contain given SMALLCAT was deprecated. Whitnash parish had a population of 10,489 in 2021 but Stanhope had only 4,436 but Category:Stanhope, County Durham has 56 pages and a sub category. I'm not of the mind that we should keep all categories except those like Category:Churches in Kenton, Devon for example that would probably only even contain 1 page as most villages only have 1 or 2 churches but most villages/parishes like Kenton would probably be able to have a list of listed buildings and several would probably be clearly notable even if we assumed not every listed building was notable per WP:GEOFEAT and there would probably be one or 2 other things in the parish or something else associated with the village so add to a category. Consider Category:Grassington which until recently had only 2 articles other than the main article but now has a total of 10 articles. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]