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The result of the discussion was: procedural keep. This needs a mass nomination (I'm happy to help if needed). (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:08, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:1913 Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association football season (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: There's only a page and the template in here. I've added the main page to the 1913 football season category. Mason (talk) 23:55, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• This should be nominated together with its siblings. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:58, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep; part of a well-established, highly-structured categorization scheme. Jweiss11 (talk) 03:52, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Delete per nom. Others in similar situation should also be nominated. Let'srun (talk) 15:52, 11 February 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• This is one of thousands like it; I do not understand why we want to stray from order to disorder, rather than stay orderly and organized. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:27, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:08, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:Fascists by ethnicity to Category:Fascists

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category is a redudant layer. Mason (talk) 23:51, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:59, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 17:22, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:08, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Brooklyn Hills football seasons (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Only 2 pages in category. Let'srun (talk) 23:09, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, I have added a "see also" note directly in the article text. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:02, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:08, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Staten Island Cricket Club football seasons (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Only two pages in category Let'srun (talk) 22:50, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, I have added a "see also" note directly in the article text. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:05, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. WP:SMALLCAT is no longer a valid policy. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:12, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:12th-century Christian universalists to Category:Medieval Christian universalists
• Propose merging Category:15th-century Christian universalists to Category:Medieval Christian universalists (added 19:37, 10 February 2024 (UTC))

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in this category, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 22:02, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep WP:SMALLCAT and the fact that it diffuses multiple navigation schemes. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:05, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Small cat is no longer wikipedia policy. What navigation schemes does it diffuse? Mason (talk) 23:56, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge, isolated single-article category. The 15th-century sibling should be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Added 15th century @Koavf and Marcocapelle: per Marco.

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:16, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose renaming Category:Breton historians to Category:Historians of Brittany

Nominator's rationale: Per C2C: Norm is to use Historians of SUBJECT, I'm not sure if this can be speedied because the main page is called List of Breton historians. But as named it could be historians who are ethnically Bretons Mason (talk) 21:30, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Rename per nom. This is clearly less ambiguous. The list may be renamed too. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Rename per nom. Breton categories are often filled with people based on their link with the region rather than reliable information on their ethnicity anyway. Place Clichy (talk) 17:24, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:16, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:6th-century Indian non-fiction writers to Category:6th-century Indian writers
• Propose merging Category:5th-century Indian non-fiction writers to Category:5th-century Indian writers
• Propose merging Category:4th-century Indian non-fiction writers to Category:4th-century Indian writers
• Propose merging Category:3rd-century Indian non-fiction writers to Category:3rd-century Indian writers
• Propose merging Category:2nd-century Indian non-fiction writers to Category:2nd-century Indian writers

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Redudant category layer. Each only has FOOian-century Indian scholars in it Mason (talk) 21:20, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom. More siblings may be added. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:17, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:21st-century Vietnamese calligraphers (0) to Category:Vietnamese calligraphers and Category:21st-century calligraphers and Category:21st-century Vietnamese artists
• Propose merging Category:20th-century Vietnamese calligraphers (0) to Category:Vietnamese calligraphers and Category:20th-century calligraphers and Category:20th-century Vietnamese artists
• Propose merging Category:19th-century Vietnamese calligraphers (0) to Category:Vietnamese calligraphers and Category:19th-century calligraphers and Category:19th-century Vietnamese people

Nominator's rationale: There are only 4 unique people across these three categories. Upmerge for now Mason (talk) 21:06, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge for now, without objection to recreate these categories when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:19, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:17, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:21st-century Korean calligraphers (0) to Category:Korean calligraphers and Category:21st-century calligraphers and Category:21st-century Korean artists
• Propose merging Category:20th-century Korean calligraphers (5) to Category:Korean calligraphers and Category:20th-century calligraphers and Category:20th-century Korean artists
• Propose merging Category:13th-century Korean calligraphers (0) to Category:Korean calligraphers and Category:13th-century calligraphers and Category:13th-century Korean artists
• Propose merging Category:12th-century Korean calligraphers (0) to Category:Korean calligraphers and Category:12th-century calligraphers and Category:12th-century Korean artists
• Propose merging Category:11th-century Korean calligraphers (0) to Category:Korean calligraphers and Category:11th-century calligraphers and Category:11th-century Korean artists
• Propose merging Category:10th-century Korean calligraphers (0) to Category:Korean calligraphers and Category:10th-century calligraphers and Category:10th-century Korean artists
• Propose merging Category:9th-century Korean calligraphers (0) to Category:Korean calligraphers and Category:9th-century calligraphers and Category:9th-century Korean artists

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one (or two) people in each of these categories. Mason (talk) 20:54, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge for now, without objection to recreate these categories when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:20, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:17, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose renaming Category:5th-century Chinese musicians (0) to Category:5th-century musicians (and adding the contents to Category:5th-century Chinese people and Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)
• Propose renaming Category:4th-century Chinese musicians (0) to Category:4th-century musicians (and adding the contents to Category:4th-century Chinese people and Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)
• Propose renaming Category:3rd-century Chinese musicians (0) to Category:3rd-century musicians (and adding the contents to Category:3rd-century Chinese people and Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)
• Propose renaming Category:2nd-century Chinese musicians (0) to Category:2nd-century musicians (and adding the contents to Category:2nd-century Chinese people and Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)
• Propose renaming Category:1st-century Chinese musicians (0) to Category:1st-century musicians (and adding the contents to Category:1st-century Chinese people and Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)
• Propose renaming Category:1st-century BC Chinese musicians (0) to Category:1st-century BC musicians (and adding the contents to Category:1st-century BC Chinese people and Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)
• Propose renaming Category:2nd-century BC Chinese musicians (0) to Category:2nd-century BC musicians (and adding the contents to Category:2nd-century BC Chinese people and Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)
• Propose renaming Category:3rd-century BC Chinese musicians (0) to Category:3rd-century BC musicians (and adding the contents to Category:3rd-century BC Chinese people and Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)
• Propose renaming Category:4th-century BC Chinese musicians (0) to Category:4th-century BC musicians (and adding the contents to Category:4th-century BC Chinese people and Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)
• Propose renaming Category:5th-century BC Chinese musicians (0) to Category:5th-century BC musicians (and adding the contents to Category:5th-century BC Chinese people and Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)
• Propose renaming Category:6th-century BC Chinese musicians (0) to Category:6th-century BC musicians (and adding the contents to Category:6th-century BC Chinese people and Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)

Nominator's rationale: I propose broadening these categories to include musicians of any nationality. Mason (talk) 20:12, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support in principle. I am surprised these categories do not exist yet. The articles should be manually added more specifically to musicians by dynasty categories instead of generally to Category:Ancient Chinese musicians. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:01, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:19, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Wives of Rupert Murdoch (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining category. Already handled at Category:Murdoch family, spouse categories are incredibly rare except for royalty etc. --woodensuperman 13:50, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Categories like these are not only intended for royalty. Dimadick (talk) 14:09, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, articles are already in Category:Murdoch family and perfectly fine there. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:04, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Is this an inherently limited category? It's not like Murdoch will be having 4 or 5 more wives so there is little potential for growth. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:58, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete; as Liz notes, there is little to no potential for growth here. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:11, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Yeah, I'd agree that unlike wives of royalty, this is not defining. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:30, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Mason (talk) 20:23, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nomination and the fact that this is literally an example of a category to not make (i.e. Category:Husbands of Elizabeth Taylor). ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:07, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Delete per nom. Not a defining characteristic and extremely limited. Let'srun (talk) 22:51, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. A larger discussion should be held for renaming "women" categories to "female". (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:23, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:Female soldiers to Category:Women soldiers

Nominator's rationale: A complete WP:OVERLAPCAT. It used to be a redirect, but since User:AHI-3000 thinks it should be its own category, we should probably come to a consensus about whether it should exist. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:47, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom and purge Category:Female child soldiers. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reverse merge. "Female soldiers" sounds grammatically better than "women soldiers", because "female" is an adjective and "women" is actually a plural noun. I also think this should be done for other occupational categories that are erroneously named with "Women" at the beginning of their page titles. AHI-3000 (talk) 20:23, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reverse merge per AHI-3000, and do not purge Category:Female child soldiers (as it fits under the umbrella "female"). If it is regularly-merged, then do purge. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:52, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Reverse merge per discussion above. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:12, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note As Category:Female soldiers is the newer category, in order to preserve history, the merge should still be executed as I proposed, but then the category renamed to "Female soldiers". ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:34, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Procedurally oppose. I think we should not be having a ton of these renaming women to female simultaneously. Mason (talk) 20:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Even if you oppose changing the name, surely you support both categories not existing at the same time, right? I don't understand why you would oppose even that. I have no preference on what name it ends up as, I just deferred to the one that has been stable. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:58, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  That's a good point. I'll support the merge in these circumstaces. Mason (talk) 23:58, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge as nominated with no prejuduice to a rename in a larger discussion. –Aidan721 (talk) 22:34, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:25, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose renaming Category:Articles about multiple people to Category:Groups of people

Nominator's rationale: The current title isn't really defining, as it refers to the article rather than the article subject. The rename would remedy that by making it clear it's talking about the subjects of each article. A move to this name failed in 2011, but for an odd reason - they claimed that 2 people were not a "group". Merriam-Webster defines group as "two or more", so this is flat-out wrong. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Rename per nom. Without context it is a somewhat odd title, but it is a container category so it won't lead to confusion for editors of articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:26, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose renaming Category:People from the New York metropolitan area by city to Category:People from the New York metropolitan area by populated place

Nominator's rationale: There are towns, townships, cities, and more in this category. Rename accordingly. See related: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_October_4#Category:American_people_by_city_and_occupation –Aidan721 (talk) 14:46, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom Mason (talk) 20:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Rename per precedent. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:26, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose renaming Category:Lists of American people by city to Category:Lists of American people by populated place

Nominator's rationale: Not all places are cities in this category. Rename per prior precedents including Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_October_4#Category:American_people_by_city_and_occupation. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:45, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom Mason (talk) 20:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Rename per precedent. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:09, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:32, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:Speeches by Bahram Beyzai to Category:Works by Bahram Beyzai
• Propose merging Category:Speeches by Harold Macmillan to Category:Speeches by Conservative Party (UK)
• Propose merging Category:Speeches by Nelson Mandela to Category:South Africa presidential speeches
• Propose merging Category:Speeches by Thabo Mbeki to Category:South Africa presidential speeches
• Propose merging Category:Speeches by Yasser Arafat to Category:Yasser Arafat

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one speech in each, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 05:21, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Dual merge if applicable, also to Category:Harold Macmillan, Category:Works by Nelson Mandela, and Category:Thabo Mbeki respectively. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:01, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:30, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose splitting Category:Pride parades in Nevada to Category:Pride parades in the United States and Category:LGBT events in Nevada

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in here, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 04:31, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:12, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 15:35, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:GA-Class Nazi Germany articles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:FA-Class Nazi Germany articles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: These articles should not be manually added, but added through WikiProject banner templates. These (as far as I can tell) are not connected to any task force or WikiProject. WP:WikiProject Nazi Germany redirects to Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany but Template:WikiProject Germany does not have a task force for it. Also while Wikipedia:Nazi affiliation task force exists, there isn't a main category for that task force. Gonnym (talk) 13:32, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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These deletions seems reasonable. I don't have strong opinions. Has anyone asked the Wikiproject what they'd like to do with it? Mason (talk) 02:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: I am going to relist this and drop a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Germany.
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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:30, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Translators of Agatha Christie (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:OCASSOC --woodensuperman 10:00, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:13, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:24, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:Humor and wit characters to Category:Comedy characters

Nominator's rationale: Seems like a complete overlap; humor and wit is by definition comedy. Category was also made by a blocked user. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:29, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Question about the target: does "comedy" include folklore tales? Because that is what a number of articles are about. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:17, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  If the characters aren't explicitly comedic, they should probably just be purged. Calling a non-comedic character humorous or not, is personal opinion. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:15, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • It is a bit of a grey area though. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:30, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose renaming Category:Stand-up comedy concert films to Category:Stand-up comedy specials and films

Nominator's rationale: There are no separate Categories for non-concert films of stand-up comedy, so the disambiguation is unneeded. The Category was created in the early year of 2006. Recorded, edited and released long-form stand-up comedy acts are ubiquitously referred to as "specials". Separately, Wikipedia defines a concert as being a live musical performance in front of an audience. DA1 (talk) 09:24, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum: The Primetime Emmy Awards nominates comedy specials under the category Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Variety Special (Pre-Recorded), and the Golden Globe Awards began in 2024 the Best Performance in Stand-Up Comedy on Television. DA1 (talk) 15:26, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Keep. If there are individual categories that should be renamed, they should be nominated individually. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:23, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose renaming Category:Women academics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female academics
• Propose renaming Category:Women accountants (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female accountants
• Propose renaming Category:Women activists (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female activists
• Propose renaming Category:Women art collectors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female art collectors
• Propose renaming Category:Women artisans (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female artisans
• Propose renaming Category:Women arts administrators (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female arts administrators
• Propose renaming Category:Women astronauts (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female astronauts
• Propose renaming Category:Women audio engineers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female audio engineers
• Propose renaming Category:Women aviators (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female aviators
• Propose renaming Category:Women chefs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female chefs
• Propose renaming Category:Women collectors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female collectors
• Propose renaming Category:Women conductors (music) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female conductors (music)
• Propose renaming Category:Women conservationists (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female conservationists
• Propose renaming Category:Women diplomats (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female diplomats
• Propose renaming Category:Women directors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female directors
• Propose renaming Category:Women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female editors
• Propose renaming Category:Women educational personnel (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female educational personnel
• Propose renaming Category:Women educational theorists (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female educational theorists
• Propose renaming Category:Women educators (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female educators
• Propose renaming Category:Women engineers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female engineers
• Propose renaming Category:Women entertainers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female entertainers
• Propose renaming Category:Women evangelists (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female evangelists
• Propose renaming Category:Women farmers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female farmers
• Propose renaming Category:Women financial analysts (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female financial analysts
• Propose renaming Category:Women folklorists (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female folklorists
• Propose renaming Category:Women jurists (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female jurists
• Propose renaming Category:Women trade union leaders (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female trade union leaders
• Propose renaming Category:Women landowners (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female landowners
• Propose renaming Category:Women lawyers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female lawyers
• Propose renaming Category:Women legislators (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female legislators
• Propose renaming Category:Women lighthouse keepers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female lighthouse keepers
• Propose renaming Category:Women motivational speakers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female motivational speakers
• Propose renaming Category:Women music promoters (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female music promoters
• Propose renaming Category:Women mystics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female mystics
• Propose renaming Category:Women philatelists (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female philatelists
• Propose renaming Category:Women philosophers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female philosophers
• Propose renaming Category:Women physicians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female physicians
• Propose renaming Category:Women podcasters (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female podcasters
• Propose renaming Category:Women police officers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female police officers
• Propose renaming Category:Women politicians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female politicians
• Propose renaming Category:Women presidents of organizations (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female presidents of organizations
• Propose renaming Category:Women printers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female printers
• Propose renaming Category:Women referees and umpires (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female referees and umpires
• Propose renaming Category:Women restaurateurs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female restaurateurs
• Propose renaming Category:Women rulers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female rulers
• Propose renaming Category:Women scholars and academics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female scholars and academics
• Propose renaming Category:Women scientists (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female scientists
• Propose renaming Category:Women sheriffs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female sheriffs
• Propose renaming Category:Women slaves (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female slaves
• Propose renaming Category:Women slave owners (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female slave owners
• Propose renaming Category:Women spies (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female spies
• Propose renaming Category:Women stamp designers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female stamp designers
• Propose renaming Category:Women stock traders (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female stock traders
• Propose renaming Category:Women theatre managers and producers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female theatre managers and producers
• Propose renaming Category:Women theologians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female theologians
• Propose renaming Category:Women urban planners (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female urban planners
• Propose renaming Category:Women video game developers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female video game developers
• Propose renaming Category:Women video game producers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female video game producers
• Propose renaming Category:Women video game programmers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female video game programmers
• Propose renaming Category:Women writers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female writers
• Propose renaming Category:Women yogis (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female yogis
• Propose renaming Category:Indian women newspaper editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Indian newspaper editors
• Propose renaming Category:Women print editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female print editors
• Propose renaming Category:Women magazine editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female magazine editors
• Propose renaming Category:Women newspaper editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female newspaper editors
• Propose renaming Category:Women sound editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female sound editors
• Propose renaming Category:American women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female American editors
• Propose renaming Category:Argentine women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Argentine editors
• Propose renaming Category:Australian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Australian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Austrian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Austrian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Bolivian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Bolivian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Brazilian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Brazilian editors
• Propose renaming Category:British women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female British editors
• Propose renaming Category:Bulgarian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Bulgarian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Canadian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Canadian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Chilean women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Chilean editors
• Propose renaming Category:Chinese women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Chinese editors
• Propose renaming Category:Czech women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Czech editors
• Propose renaming Category:Danish women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Danish editors
• Propose renaming Category:Egyptian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Egyptian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Estonian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Estonian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Finnish women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Finnish editors
• Propose renaming Category:French women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female French editors
• Propose renaming Category:German women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female German editors
• Propose renaming Category:Ghanaian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Ghanaian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Greek women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Greek editors
• Propose renaming Category:Hungarian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Hungarian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Icelandic women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Icelandic editors
• Propose renaming Category:Indian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Indian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Iranian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Iranian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Irish women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Irish editors
• Propose renaming Category:Israeli women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Israeli editors
• Propose renaming Category:Italian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Italian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Japanese women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Japanese editors
• Propose renaming Category:Kuwaiti women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Kuwaiti editors
• Propose renaming Category:Mexican women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Mexican editors
• Propose renaming Category:New Zealand women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female New Zealand editors
• Propose renaming Category:Norwegian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Norwegian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Peruvian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Peruvian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Polish women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Polish editors
• Propose renaming Category:Romanian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Romanian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Russian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Russian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Saudi Arabian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Saudi Arabian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Serbian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Serbian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Slovenian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Slovenian editors
• Propose renaming Category:South African women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female South African editors
• Propose renaming Category:Spanish women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Spanish editors
• Propose renaming Category:Sudanese women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Sudanese editors
• Propose renaming Category:Swedish women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Swedish editors
• Propose renaming Category:Swiss women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Swiss editors
• Propose renaming Category:Taiwanese women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Taiwanese editors
• Propose renaming Category:Tunisian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Tunisian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Turkish women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Turkish editors
• Propose renaming Category:Ukrainian women editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Ukrainian editors
• Propose renaming Category:Spanish women film editors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female Spanish film editors‎

Nominator's rationale: "Women" is a noun, "female" is an adjective. There are probably many categories I missed, but this is a good start. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:44, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: The above listing is far from complete. There are hundreds more, for example those under Category:Women writers by nationality, Category:Women artists by nationality, Category:Women photographers by nationality, etc.--Ipigott (talk) 12:23, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I've started to think about this some more as the nom has been coming up. (I personally prefer being called a women, than being described as female).

1) These renames are going to wreck havoc on a ton of pre-existing templates, which just makes more work. Going from FOO female/woman to female/women FOO occupation splits the occupation category.

2) I do not want to see this trickle down into categories called Fooian females, because there are numerous undertones. I would like the previsions discussions related to these renames to be linked here.

3) I would really like some feedback from more women focused wikipedia groups.

4) I think women makes it clearer that being a women in the occupation is a defining feature, rather than someone who is female. Mason (talk) 03:05, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose as "women" refers to gender, while "female" refers to sex. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 03:13, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• That is also a good point. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support selected moves. Women does go in front of nouns. A recent phenomenon is to put "female" in front instead of women, which has only been happening in the past few decades. The thing about this change is that some fields still have "women" as more common.

Here is a listing on Google Ngrams to consider the most common:

• "Female editors" is more common.
• "Women scientists" is more common
• "Women writers" is more common
• "Women lawyers" is more common
• "Women academics" is more common
• "Female politicians" is more common
• "Women artists" is more common

An issue is that "women" applies only to adults whereas "female" is inclusive to children (girls). We had this issue on the List of female monarchs, which previously used "women monarchs" and was moved to "female".

To reply to The ed17's mention that "female" refers to sex and "women" gender, that point does not follow consensus on Women, where "female" refers to both gender and sex. —Panamitsu (talk) 03:46, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose: As an 80-year-old Brit, my initial inclination was to use "female" as a qualifier, in both articles and categories on Wikipedia, but as a result of discussions with experts in the field such as SusunW I now frequently use "women" as a pseudo-adjective. For most sports though, "female" is widely used internationally and is generally more appropriate for Wikipedia categories, see Category:Sportswomen by sport. I would not support these being changed to "women", e.g. women baseball players. The many existing categories including "women" and "female" function well and are widely used. I strongly suggest they should be maintained.--Ipigott (talk) 07:09, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose: as noun modifiers are so commonplace in informal writing, formal writing, and our category tree that the rationale is wrong. If there are other reasons to prefer "female", I'd love to her them. The Ngram analysis is nice, but we shouldn't choose one form over the other if the Ngrams show that they're close and there are other reasons (e.g. consistency) to stick with the slightly less common version. I would feel differently if one form were vastly more common than the other. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:11, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Strongly Oppose: If you look at the history of women vs. female as a modifier, it dates to the 14th century. According to the Oxford English Dictionary woman first appeared as an adjective in 1382.[1] According to Webster's Dictionary,[2] Henry Fowler, who wrote the 1926 Dictionary of Modern English Usage, was the first scholar to insist that woman was a noun and female was an adjective. (Interestingly he argued that female suffrage was the correct term, and that women who opposed that phraseology were whiny, but the largest global organization pressing for suffrage was the International Woman Suffrage Alliance.) Journalists have varying opinions on whether woman can be a noun modifier.[3],[4],[5],[6],[7] Scholars have also debated the question[8], [9] and dictionaries disagree as well. According to "Grammar Girl" Mignon Fogarty Webster's (their article on usage indicates it's not cut and dry) and American Heritage indicate woman is a noun, Dictionary.com says woman can be used as a noun or adjective, and the Oxford English Dictionary states that woman can be used as an appositive noun.[10] Guardian reporter Maddie York, whose personal preference is for woman to be restricted to use as a noun, states that the Chamber's Dictionary considers the usage of female and woman to be interchangeable and the Collin's Dictionary lists woman as a modifier.[11] Given this history there is no logical reason the categories should be renamed to choose one word over another. SusunW (talk) 15:14, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per most/all of the various different arguments above, and the sheer hassle of catching all of them, which I don't think the nom does. Johnbod (talk) 15:32, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Oppose per above discussion. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:13, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose per the oppose votes above. Trying to avoid repeating the arguments. -- Rohini (talk) 16:55, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Per the various arguments given, things are not nearly as cut and dry as the nomination claims. It's amazing that somehow it was assumed that whoever made all these categories was unable to distinguish a noun from an adjective. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:54, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Strongly oppose. Making such a change would be a prime example of trying to make language fit a rigid idea of consistency and correctness, rather than reflecting how language is actually used and understood by editors and readers. And in many cases, changing "women" to "female" would be borderline offensive, as it would abruptly draw attention to biological sex in contexts where it is not relevant. Note the difference between "She was the first woman astronaut to orbit the moon" and "Accommodating the bodies of the first female astronauts presented space suit designers with a new set of issues." Each of these sentences, I would argue, uses the best word in the context. Would support going with common usage, which is rarely consistent and often "incorrect". — scribblingwoman 19:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong oppose. As the founder of WP:WPWW in 2014, I can tell you that we had this conversation back then when deciding about creating new categories to support our WikiProject's work. Academics who focus on women's literature were part of the discussion (including off-wiki). In addition, my point of view is supported by the oppose arguments presented here by others. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:09, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Remove the women/female subcategories, or Add a "man" (for consistency with "woman") subcategory as well. Or have both "male"/"female" subcats. Either way we should be both equal-opportunity (subcats for both sexes/genders) and consistent (man/woman or male/female). Mitch Ames (talk) 08:56, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Remove the women/female subcategories — and the men/male subcategories (as Ipigott mentioned on my talk page), where they exist and are irrelevant to being a foo. Mitch Ames (talk) 23:43, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• support considerable effort has been on going for sometime to address the Bias singular terminology will help in the identification of such bias. Gnangarra 12:47, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Can you @Gnangarra unpack what you mean by "address the Bias singular terminology will help in the identification of such bias"? Mason (talk) 02:22, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  "considerable effort has been on going for sometime to address the Bias..." WP:BIAS female catches the nuiances between women and transgender. Gnangarra 04:28, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article you refer to appears to me to call for increased efforts in support of women. I see no call for standardizing terminology.--Ipigott (talk) 15:10, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support specifically Category:Women astronauts (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Female astronauts

Perhaps it's a special case but (a) 'female astronauts' is in common use, and (b) social gender isn't as relevant as biological sex. (Both male and female astronauts are biology research test subjects, among other roles.) (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk)

• Oppose because the rationale is faulty. Noun adjuncts are a very standard part of English. We can debate whether using "female" or "women" properly reflects the focus of these categories, but we cannot do so starting from the false premise that there is any grammatical reason to prefer one or the other construction. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:38, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose because the nom's rationale is incorrect as pointed out by the various other oppose !votes. TipsyElephant (talk) 06:16, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:29, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:1910s business films to Category:1910s films and Category:20th-century business films

Nominator's rationale: Only one page in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 04:11, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom, but only to Category:20th-century business films because the article is already in Category:1917 films. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:07, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Breaking the decades series is not helpful for navigation. Dimadick (talk) 09:01, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  How is this breaking the decades series? The series would just start a decade later. Mason (talk) 03:09, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per nom. Let'srun (talk) 22:52, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom. It' WP:NARROWCAT and doesn't aid navigation. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:59, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:28, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:1910 government budgets to Category:1910s government budgets and Category:1910 in economic history
• Propose merging Category:1969 government budgets to Category:1960s government budgets and Category:1969 in economic history
• Propose merging Category:1968 government budgets to Category:1960s government budgets and Category:1968 in economic history
• Propose merging Category:1958 government budgets to Category:1950s government budgets and Category:1958 in economic history

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Not enough content to support diffusing this decade by year Mason (talk) 04:07, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge for now, without objection to recreate the categories when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:09, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Small categories are more useful than decade-level categories for economic topics. The budgets should also be included in Category:x year in politics categories. Dimadick (talk) 13:23, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• The articles are already in country subcategories of Category:x year in politics. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:17, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per WP:OCYEAR. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Merge for Now without objection to recreation later should more articles be published per WP:MFN. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:36, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:Men's alpine skiing at the 1936 Winter Olympics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Alpine skiing at the 1936 Winter Olympics, Category:Men's events at the 1936 Winter Olympics, and Category:Men's alpine skiing at the Winter Olympics
• Propose merging Category:Women's alpine skiing at the 1936 Winter Olympics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Alpine skiing at the 1936 Winter Olympics, Category:Women's events at the 1936 Winter Olympics, Category:Women's alpine skiing at the Winter Olympics, and Category:1936 in women's alpine skiing

Nominator's rationale: There was only 1 women's and men's alpine skiing event the 1936 Winter Olympics. Merge in the spirit of WP:C2F. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:50, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:24, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Merge per nom. Let'srun (talk) 17:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:35, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:2002–03 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2002 in European sport and Category:2003 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2003–04 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2003 in European sport and Category:2004 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2004–05 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2004 in European sport and Category:2005 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2005–06 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2005 in European sport and Category:2006 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2006–07 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2006 in European sport and Category:2007 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2007–08 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2007 in European sport and Category:2008 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2008–09 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2008 in European sport and Category:2009 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2009–10 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2009 in European sport and Category:2010 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2010–11 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2010 in European sport and Category:2011 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2011–12 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2011 in European sport and Category:2012 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2012–13 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2012 in European sport and Category:2013 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2013–14 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2013 in European sport and Category:2014 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2014–15 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2014 in European sport and Category:2015 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2015–16 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2015 in European sport and Category:2016 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2016–17 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2016 in European sport and Category:2017 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2017–18 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2017 in European sport and Category:2018 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2018–19 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2018 in European sport and Category:2019 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2019–20 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2019 in European sport and Category:2020 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2020–21 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2020 in European sport and Category:2021 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2021–22 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2021 in European sport and Category:2022 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2022–23 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2022 in European sport and Category:2023 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2023–24 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2023 in European sport and Category:2024 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:2025–26 in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2025 in European sport and Category:2026 in European sport
• Propose merging Category:Seasons in European hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Seasons in European sport
• Propose merging Category:Seasons in hockey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Sports seasons by sport

Nominator's rationale: We don't need to categorize the intersection of seasons for ice hockey and field hockey. Not useful in any way. Merge. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:54, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories each. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge. Field hockey and ice hockey don't share anything besides the name. They belong to a larger family of Stick sports, which also include lacrosse, bandy, hurling, rink hockey etc. Place Clichy (talk) 17:32, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:27, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:2014–15 in United States Virgin Islands soccer (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2014 in United States Virgin Islands sports and Category:2015 in United States Virgin Islands sports
• Propose merging Category:2018–19 in United States Virgin Islands soccer (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2018 in United States Virgin Islands sports and Category:2019 in United States Virgin Islands sports
• Propose merging Category:2019–20 in United States Virgin Islands soccer (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2019 in United States Virgin Islands sports and Category:2020 in United States Virgin Islands sports
• Propose merging Category:2022–23 in United States Virgin Islands soccer (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2022 in United States Virgin Islands sports and Category:2023 in United States Virgin Islands sports
• Propose deleting Category:Seasons in United States Virgin Islands soccer (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Merge/delete. The lone articles are already in the parent trees, so an additional merge is unnecessary. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:21, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:31, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:14, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:Charities based in Romania to Category:Non-profit organizations based in Romania

Nominator's rationale: 1 entry as per WP:SMALLCAT. Suggest merge with parent. LibStar (talk) 00:05, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Dual merge, also to Category:Charities based in Europe. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:37, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:25, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:2019 in Cook Islands football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2019 in Cook Islands sport
• Propose deleting Category:Seasons in Cook Islands football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Merge/delete. The lone articles are already in the parent trees, so an additional merge is unnecessary. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:03, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:38, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:58, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:2018–19 in Guinean football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2018 in Guinean sport and Category:2019 in Guinean sport
• Propose deleting Category:Seasons in Guinean football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Merge/delete. The lone articles are already in the parent trees, so an additional merge is unnecessary. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:00, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:39, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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