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Beikoku Shido-kan should be in the shido-kan article. Tkjazzer 07:34, 15 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

Beikoku Shido-kan is located in the Shorin-ryu Shido-kan article. The other Shidokan page (without the hyphen) is about an unrelated style of karate from Japanese lineage (started by Yoshiji Soeno within the past 50 years). Beikoku Shido-kan is an association within Shorin-ryu Shido-kan, that has a direct Okinawan lineage going back to the 1800s with Matsumura (Matsumura -> Itosu -> Chibana -> Miyahira -> Iha). Beikoku Shido-kan is a Shorin-ryu style, whereas Shidokan is not. Because of the confusion between Shorin-ryu Shido-kan and Shidokan, I have made all of the references to the Okinawan Shorin-ryu style (and Beikoku association) include a hyphen, and references to the Japanese Shidokan style without. There is also a disambiguation link on the Shidokan page that goes to the Shorin-ryu Shido-kan page.

Beikoku Shido-kan is clearly not part of the Japanese Shidokan style, so it does not belong there. The head of Beikoku Shido-kan (Iha) is a student of Miyahira's (in Shorin-ryu Shido-kan). So Beikoku Shido-kan either belongs on the Shorin-ryu Shido-kan page (where I think it currently belongs), or on its own page. If you would like to move Beikoku Shido-kan elsewhere, I think this should be discussed on the discussion page for Shorin-ryu Shido-kan, and not here on our user talk pages. --Scott Alter 20:52, 15 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

The category of Okinawan martial arts is currently grouped in with Japanese martial arts. While I do not agree with the current grouping, do you plan on making the Okinawan martial arts category? I think this would be a wise idea, and then start to move the Okinawan arts out of the Japanese category. Okinawan martial arts should me made a subcategory of the Martial arts by regional origin category. It should not be a subcategory of Japanese martial arts, since many Japanese styles were imported from Okinawa. This also may need to be discussed on the Japanese martial arts category page. --Scott Alter 20:52, 15 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

I just moved our discussion to Japanese martial arts. It is good practice to leave our intentions there to separate Okinawan from Japanese there for a few days and get additional feedback. Any additional input we have on the matter should be posted there. --Scott Alter 00:27, 19 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

In case you're interested, I also just proposed a new structure for martial arts classifications. --Scott Alter 02:54, 19 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

I do not have a makiwara, but I have a friend who does. What you do (for any portable makiwara), is build a platform to stand on, attach a stand to one end, and place the makiwara in the stand. Here is a picture of the entire setup [1], and this is a closeup of the stand [2]. The force you use to strike the makiwara is transfered upward from the platform, using the stand as a fulcrum - but your weight on the platform keeps the makiwara from going anywhere. If you do build one of these, make sure that the base wood is strong. I have broken the bases of makiwara that used soft wood. Also, you may need some type of cushioning under the platform to absorb the vibrations. Hitting a makiwara generates lots of noise and vibrations, which your neighbors might not appreciate. --Scott Alter 22:36, 6 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

You can try just using thick, but firm carpet. Alternatively, you can try dense foam. Anything is better than wood-on-wood or wood-on-concrete. It gets complicated, because you want something soft enough to be absorptive, but firm enough to stand on. You can always add this later, and use trial and error. --Scott Alter 22:57, 6 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

The height for a makiwara I like is roughly shoulder-height. My punches are usually aimed at the height of my sternum. That height allows me to have a good punch (wrist straight - metacarpal bones in same plane as radius and ulna) and make contact using my second and third metacarpo-phalangeal knuckles. --Scott Alter 00:56, 8 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Personally, I would like to get rid of the "major styles" templates (see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Martial Arts. As for the other templates, it is just me that is taking the initiative to create them - but others are adding additional styles to them. I have not run into anyone else trying to unify all of the martial arts pages. What I have been doing is only been putting a template on a page that has the style listed in the template. Shito-ryu is in Template:Karate schools, but not Template:Martial arts - so only "Karate schools" would belong on that page. For Shorin-ryu, I created the additional template of its branches. Shorin-ryu is listed on both Template:Karate schools and Template:Shorin-ryu styles, so both get listed on that page. Shorin-ryu Shido-kan is only listed on Template:Shorin-ryu styles, so it only gets that one template. Generally, you only list a template on an article if there is a link to the article from the template. --Scott Alter 02:14, 8 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Personally, I think the side kick is the most difficult there is. I'm not sure whose side kick you were watching in the video, but the person doing it might not have done it properly. What makes the side kick extremely difficult is doing it using the rear leg. Most of what you might see online does it using the front leg. The downside to using the front leg is that you have to position the rear leg before you can throw the kick. In Shido-kan, we don't really do any techniques that involve repositioning first. I haven't seen any good videos or pictures online.

As far as I know, there are only 2 videos out containing Iha's style - the one you have, and there is the "25th Anniversary Video." I don't think I've ever seen the "25th Anniversary Video" (made at the 2001 National Training Seminar(NTS)). I was at that NTS, but do not know what they put on the video. It would be of everyone training - not just Iha...so even if you see some people doing side kicks, it might not be what Iha does.

You can look at some things online to get an idea of how to throw the kick - but the main things that Shido-kan stresses is to chamber the kick on the way out and on the way back (don't drop the kick after you throw it). Also, strike using the lateral margin of the foot towards the heal. Sometimes, side kicks are thrown more like back kicks and strike almost solely with the heal. --Scott Alter 02:14, 8 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

If it's Xingyi you're after, Tim Cartmell has an excellent reputation, though I'm not sure if he teaches Xingyi separately or only as part of his combined curriculum of Xingyi, Bagua, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and T'ai Chi. Normally I don't recommend syncretic "combined curriculum" places but Cartmell has a reputation for both knowing his material and turning out competent fighters. JFD 01:21, 21 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Keep in mind that CMA doesn't typically have the large federations that Japanese or Korean arts have. Those that exist tend to be closely associated with a particular lineage. JFD 02:00, 21 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Robert Chu is based in Pasadena, IIRC. JFD 02:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

I've just started work on the Eigenreflex article. Step one is to find the correct pages to wikilink on the English article. If you want to help, it's at User_talk:WhatamIdoing/Sandbox, and my preferred system is that we turn de:das into das. That way, the article still reads intelligibly in German, but when we get to the editing stage, the English equivalent of the technical terms is easily visible. The translation of technical terms is trivial but a bit tedious: you click the German link, open the article, and scroll down until you hit the interwiki links.

I'm really not sure what to do about the distinction between Eigenreflex (self-reflex) and Fremdreflex (foreign reflex). We'll have to work that out later.

Also -- I tend to forget what's going on in my sandbox, so feel free to remind me every few days. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:41, 19 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

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