MaryGaulke

How about getting the Dow Corning article a higher resolution version of the logo. See Exxon Mobil or Apple, Inc. where we have an svg file that has unlimited resolution. Svg files store the image as vectors that can be scaled to any size while retaining resolution.

That's a great tip, thank you!

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August 24: Wiknic @ Roosevelt Island

You are invited to the picnic anyone can edit on Roosevelt Island, at Southpoint Park. Following up on this month's Wikimania in Poland, this Wiknic will have as guest of honor User:DerHexer, the 2024 Wikimedia Laureate of the Year, marking his triumphant North American tour! Bring a picnic blanket and some potluck, as well as some sunscreen! We'll also provide a little something for everyone, but we encourage you to bring your own favorite dishes to share, especially for those food cultural topics you would like to improve on Wikipedia. We'll also do a portal thing for a bit with West Coast friends at the WikiLA ocean life edit-a-thon. All are welcome, new and experienced! Saturday, August 24, 2024 NYC Wiknic @ Roosevelt Island (RSVP on-wiki) Time: 2:00 - 7:00 pm (come by any time!) Salon-style Discussions: 3:00 pm - 3:30 pm (session A) 5:00 pm - 5:30 pm (session B) Location: Roosevelt Island (Southpoint Park, look for our Wikipedia/Wikimedia NYC banner). All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. See also upcoming events in September and October at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC.

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It appears that you have been canvassing — notifying a biased choice of users by mentioning them in an ongoing discussion. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Thank you. Axad12 (talk) 05:47, 11 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

As I've stated in our discussion at Talk:Marc Benioff, that was not my intention and I will not do so again. Thank you for your feedback. Mary Gaulke (talk) 13:13, 11 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello Mary, I trust that this note finds you well.

I thought it might be useful if we had a chat on sourcing following your declined edit request for Greystar, here [1].

If we look at source #6 in that request [2], at the very foot of the article there is a link to ‘Advertising’ (under the heading ‘Reach our Audience’). Following that link we arrive at a page where the following text can be found…

Put your brand in front of multifamily housing professionals. Multifamily Dive is a digital publication reaching over 83,500 industry decision makers. Our readers rely on our free newsletters to deliver news and trends shaping their industry. Our marketing campaigns can help you: Generate leads for your sales team. Tell your company's story via content marketing. Position your company as a leader on key industry topics. Increase brand recognition through reach and repetition.

Now, since the website is essentially ad-free, this text presumably refers to article creation. My impression therefore is that source #6 is non-WP:RS compliant, non-independent WP:SPONSORED material. This would also seem to be indicated by the fact that the article is essentially a list of direct quotes from a director at the company and the note at the top of the article stating according to a news release shared with Multifamily Dive.

In addition the website certainly offers the facility to companies that it will directly publish their press releases (details here [3]), which does not seem to me to be a hallmark of a WP:RS compliant source.

Sources #3 and #4 seem to me to be have similar features in terms of article content and the free use of direct (and potentially non-neutral) quotes from the company.

I wonder if you could give me your impression of the extent to which (particularly) source #6 is WP:RS compliant?

Kind regards, Axad12 (talk) 06:23, 20 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

See also, similar concerns on sourcing with your edit request for Madeline Bell, here [4]. Axad12 (talk) 07:07, 20 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi, I appreciate you reaching out. This feedback is really helpful! It had not occurred to me that this site would be posting unlabeled sponsored content; while it offers to publish press releases, from what I can tell, it also labels them as press releases. And while the article referenced partially cites a release, I believe it lacks the signs of WP:CHURNALISM – it couches the company's news in broader industry context, has an individual byline of a reporter, and isn't structured or written like the company press release on the same matter. It looks like this particular pub has never come up at WP:RSN, nor has its parent company, Industry Dive (although Industry Dive does appear to be cited in quite a few articles). Still, I'm not sure how one could definitely prove the article is not sponsored; I'll look for other publications' coverage on the topic. Mary Gaulke (talk) 01:11, 22 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, for clarity, the website does 2 things: (a) it offers companies the chance to have their stories written up as though they were legitimate articles, and (b) it publishes press releases which, as you say, are clearly labelled as such.

My point is that (a) is what has happened here. I only mentioned (b) as general background because (b) does not seem to me to be a hallmark of a WP:RS compliant source.

So, even if the evidence in relation to (a) did not exist I would still be concerned about RS status simply due to the existence of (b).

However, the evidence that the article in question is sponsored content seems to be quite clear. As you say, it lacks the signs of churnalism - but that is because it is an intentionally subtle form of such. The issue at stake, however, is the independence or non-independence of the content, which seems quite clear from my original post here.

Hopefully this clarifies. Axad12 (talk) 03:00, 22 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

This was really helpful, thanks again. I've revised accordingly and welcome any other feedback you have! I'm also wondering if there should be a conversation at RSN about Industry Dive – undisclosed sponsored content would be a pretty serious issue. Mary Gaulke (talk) 23:40, 27 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Axad12: Giving you a ping in case you missed this. Also happy to post a new request, just wanted to give you a chance to look first if you'd like. Mary Gaulke (talk) 10:46, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Just a quick note re: RSN... There doesn't need to be a thread at RSN for every source that is non-compliant with WP:RS. The criteria for fulfilling WP:RS are fairly clear and sources that do not comply should not be used under any circumstances.

There is a list of deprecated sources somewhere on Wikipedia, but inevitably such a list can hardly scratch the surface of the unreliable non-independent rubbish that accounts for the great majority of the internet. (From memory, that list consists primarily of tabloid news sources, fake news sites, etc. rather than the other kinds of source which are straightforward WP:RS fails.)

Therefore, moving forwards please apply some reasonability checks before citing sources to support COI edit requests. I would suggest (a) any mention of press releases, either in the text or anywhere else on the source article is a big red light, and (b) look for a link saying 'Advertise with us' (or similar), follow the link and determine if it talking about embedding clients' stories as pretend news items (in my experience it usually is talking about that sort of thing, as more conventional advertising is usually done through other channels). Inevitably those two points are not intended to be an exhaustive list of how one might identify such sites. Axad12 (talk) 14:25, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

 

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