User talk:BallenaBlanca/2015

Per WP:OWNTALK, editors are free to remove almost anything except "declined unblock requests and speedy deletion tags" from their own talk pages - you shouldn't restore such material. If anything the blanking is a useful sign that they've read it. --McGeddon (talk) 09:17, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

An interesting discussion. The 2008 ref says "Bottom line There are the same methodological issues in the epilepsy literature as there were in the ataxia and neuropathy literature already discussed. From the evidence-based perspective, there is conflicting evidence whether there is or is not an association between coeliac disease or auto-antibodies and epilepsy. As yet there is no compelling evidence that there is a causal relation. There probably is a specific syndrome—coeliac disease with epilepsy and calcifications—which is rare and perhaps geographically specific."

So adjusted our text. By the way welcome to Wikipedia it is great having you join us :-) User:Samir is another gastroentrologist. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:16, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

  Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be engaged in an edit war with one or more editors according to your reverts at Gluten-free diet. Although repeatedly reverting or undoing another editor's contributions may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, and often creates animosity between editors. Instead of edit warring, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

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  Resolved and approved the inclusion of the information I proposed. See: [1] --BallenaBlanca (talk) 09:00, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

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I'm working on this page. I still have work to do in it and I am checking errors. Fixed. Best regards. --BallenaBlanca (talk) 07:02, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

You seem to be on a mission to relate gluten-sensitivity or non-celiac gluten sensitivity to the articles on wheat, pasta and gluten. I have reverted or edited the additions following WP:OFFTOPIC, WP:NOTADVICE and WP:OR. The Italian group publications you cite are opinion articles which you then are summarizing with your own interpretations and advice, leading to original research and provision of advice. This is clearly inappropriate for wheat and pasta, and is not central to the gluten article, as enough is already stated for CD and NCGS; please see WP:NOTEVERYTHING. --Zefr (talk) 02:44, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Hellow, @Zefr:. I do not see where the problem is. It's enough to take a look at the definition of the disease. There is a lot of sources, growing literature, about non-celiac gluten sensitivity. One example (this is not a free-access paper, but I have it):

Noncoeliac gluten sensitivity NCGS is a clinical condition in which intestinal and extraintestinal symptoms are triggered by gluten ingestion, in the absence of coeliac disease and wheat allergy. The symptoms usually occur soon after gluten ingestion, improve or disappear within hours or a few days after gluten withdrawal, and relapse following its reintroduction. Vriezinga SL, Schweizer JJ, Koning F, Mearin ML (Sep 2015). "Coeliac disease and gluten-related disorders in childhood". Nat Rev Gastroenterol Hepatol (Review) 12 (9): 527–36. doi:10.1038/nrgastro.2015.98. PMID 26100369

We can't talk about gluten, wheat, barley,ride, and all of its hybrids and derivatives, and its health effects without mentioning non-celiac gluten sensitivity. This syndrome was originally described in the 1980s^[1] and included since 2010 in the spectrum of gluten-related disorders.^[1][2]

It seems that you are systematically deleting all information about non-celiac gluten sensitivity. This practice seems an attempt to bias the information and does not fit neutral point of view.

Best regards. --BallenaBlanca (talk) 03:37, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

On the contrary, my reverts began with WP:NPOV, especially for the pasta article which mentions gluten (with wikilink) as a component of some pastas, so is adequately stated for the general user. Discussion of NCGS is WP:OFFTOPIC and leads to an advisory for a small percentage of users, per WP:NOTADVICE. --Zefr (talk) 04:11, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

@Zefr:Gluten is the component of most pastas, not "some" pastas. Coeliac people represent 1-2% of the general population and non-celiac gluten sensitivity sufferers up to 13%.^[3] Information about special pastas for coeliacs were already present, before my first editions:

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Northamerica1000 (talk | contribs) at 13:41, 7 December 2015

Since the time of Cato, basic pasta dough has been made mostly of wheat flour or semolina,[4] with durum wheat used predominantly in the South of Italy and soft wheat in the North. Regionally other grains have been used, including those from barley, buckwheat, rye, rice, and maize, as well as chestnut and chickpea flours. In modern times to meet the demands of coeliac sufferers and similar diets, the use of rice, maize and whole durum wheat has become commercially significant. Grain flours may also be supplemented with cooked potatoes.

But, I repeat, we can't talk about coeliac disease or gluten-related disorders without mention non-celiac gluten sensitivity. I have not made any recommendation, only neutral information which updates the outdated (and dangerous) previous. To do otherwise or delete this is biased information and does not fit neutral point of view.:

Revision as of 11:57, 11 December 2015 BallenaBlanca (→‎Ingredients: Not only coeliac sufferers. Expanding. Sources: (Jun 2015) PMID 26060112; (2013) PMID 23797124; (Mar 1, 2006) PMID 16480395)

Since the time of Cato, basic pasta dough has been made mostly of wheat flour or semolina,[4] with durum wheat used predominantly in the South of Italy and soft wheat in the North. Regionally other grains have been used, including those from barley, buckwheat, rye, rice, and maize, as well as chestnut and chickpea flours. In modern times to meet the demands of people affected by gluten-related disorders (such as celiac disease and non-celiac gluten sensitivity sufferers[27][28][29]) and similar diets, the use of rice, maize and whole durum wheat has become commercially significant. Grain flours may also be supplemented with cooked potatoes.

Bold, my new text. Where is a recommendation or not neutral point of view in this edition, that you reverted in (→‎Ingredients: rv off-topic or unsourced vague content & ref) a posterior review? Off-topic? Unsourced? Vague...?

And I have no words to express this "In modern times to meet the demands of coeliac sufferers and similar diets, the use of rice, maize and whole durum wheat has become commercially significant.". that were present before my editions and I corrected at this one (→‎Ingredients: Durum wheat for coeliac patients or other gluten-related disorders sufferers!? It contains gluten!) It is clear the lack of information that had who wrote it!

Best regards. --BallenaBlanca (talk) 13:07, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Celiac vs. coeliac, fyi. When in doubt about American etymology, use the spelling with the fewest characters. --Zefr (talk) 16:29, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

 

 

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BallenaBlanca: your editing on Gluten still impresses as "over the top" of the general intent for a lay encyclopedia, violating WP:NOTJOURNAL by extensively detailed content and over-sourcing. Please review WP:CITEKILL, especially this section, where your content is more like a scholarly review article for your field of medicine, rather than providing general content for the typical Wikipedia user. Thanks for your attention and improvements on behalf of the lay users. --Zefr (talk) 18:14, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Zefr, thank you very much for your kindness and your explanations. I've been reading this with attention and I agree with you. Really, I did not like the result of the listing of NCGS symptoms, but I thought it was better like this to facilitate review.

I will edit following your advices and simplifying, and completing the NGCs manifestations, which in this version are very scarce and not enough representative, to clarify for our lay readers.

Best regards. --BallenaBlanca (talk) 23:58, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

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