Alpha3031

How do we insert a new page on wikipedia? --Ms10oct (talk) 09:32, 4 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Ms10oct. There's a guide for this at Help:Your first article, but gist of it is to find a topic that doesn't already exist on Wikipedia, find three very good articles on that topic elsewhere. The main sources need to cover the topic directly and in detail, be independent from the topic and be secondary, meaning it must contain analysis, evaluation or synthesis and not mere facts. Once you've found your core sources, pull out the important information and rephrase it in your own words, and you can submit your article using the Wikipedia:Article wizard. Best of luck! Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:17, 5 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello. I just saw your edit summaries regarding the move vs redirect from Demtel International. While I don't mind either way what namespace the article sits in, I just wanted to give some background, particularly relating to WP:NCCORP#Integral suffixes. While I was researching this article, I became aware that prior to the establishment of Demtel International, US based company K-Tel used the name Demtel in some markets including Australia. Thus, Demtel International was chosen to disambiguate the Australian registered company founded in 1985 over some of the associated K-Tel entities that existed before that. These are referred to as just Demtel in some of the historical sources which I felt could create confusion. Given those prior entities are unlikely to be notable enough to have ever have their own articles, I won't contest the change. I did however want to offer some clarification as to why I thought Demtel International was more appropriate. Dfadden (talk) 23:28, 13 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for clarifying your intent. It sounds like the Australian registered Demtel would be the primary topic, but I'd agree sometimes it would be worth it to site a disambiguation page at the base title instead (WP:TWODABS) rather than a hatnote if necessary. Alpha3031 (t • c) 04:20, 14 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi, thank you for your review of the new 2Rivers article. I see that you were unsure whether it met the ORGDEPTH criteria.

I've reviewed the guidance and think it does meet the criteria. One of the sources quoted is the reliable Wall Street Journal which dedicated a full article to the company and its founders in February 2024. The company also featured in Reuters, LeMonde and Bloomberg articles. The company is large, with at least 300 employees and is reported in multiple sources as the market leader in selling Russian oil which will likely equate to revenues in the multiple of billions US dollars.

Let me know if there are any edits that should made. Thank you for your help. Trader989 (talk) 18:45, 15 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Trader989. I did read the WSJ article, and it was one of the reasons I did not immediately move it to draft or mark it for deletion, but the other sources do not seem to meet the criteria, and we need multiple. The Reuters article for example, is a textbook example of routine coverage of M&A like activity, and neither Le Monde nor Bloomberg has anything beyond a very brief mention as part of Russia's sanction circumvention, hardly "direct" or "in-detail". Those sources are really more suitable for a general article, perhaps something like "circumvention of international sanctions on Russia" or something like that. Alpha3031 (t • c) 02:28, 16 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Alpha3031. Thank you for your response. I have added three further articles which are directly about the company:

"From Dubai to Cape Town, upstart trader Coral Energy rolls out African offensive" - Africa Intelligence

"UAE's Coral Energy becomes Pakistan's top fuel oil supplier" - Reuters

"Dubai traders Coral Energy and Demex in Washington's sights over sale of Russian oil" - Africa Intelligence

These articles are specifically about the company and detail their activity.

While the company was relatively small pre-2022, multiple sources report that they are a multibillion dollar company now who are a significant presence on the global stage. Thanks again for your help Trader989 (talk) 15:19, 16 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi User:Alpha3031, are you happy that the additional sources address the notability question?

If you are it would be great if you could mark it as reviewed and I'll remove the template from the top of the page.

Thanks Trader989 (talk) 15:39, 21 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Trader989, I am unable to review the Africa Intelligence articles but the Reuters does not meet the criteria. Best of luck. Alpha3031 (t • c) 08:48, 22 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Alpha3031, the Africa Intelligence piece "From Dubai to Cape Town, upstart trader Coral Energy rolls out African offensive" is from their 'In Focus' section. Their 'In Focus' articles are 'long-term investigations and aim to provide an in-depth analysis of subject'. It's a shame you can't see the full article but hopefully you can see from the title that the subject is Coral Energy and that it is an 'In Focus' piece. Africa Intelligence has been going for over 40 years and is a well respected publication.

Hopefully, that demonstrates that the source is directly about the subject, detailed, fact-based and from a reputable independent organization? Trader989 (talk) 17:17, 22 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Alpha3031, this Le Monde article has also been added to the page:

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2024/10/30/shell-companies-ghost-ships-and-secret-traders-how-russia-circumvents-western-oil-sanctions_6730981_8.html

It is directly about the subject and in depth. Along with the WSJ and Africa Intelligence pieces (as well as 31 other sources) I think the page meets the notability criteria.

Are you happy to mark it as reviewed?

Thanks, Trader989 Trader989 (talk) 18:06, 6 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Please reconsider this article. It does not look ready for inclusion in main article namespace at this time. - UtherSRG (talk) 02:05, 19 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi UtherSRG, from what I can see even if it needs to be largely rewritten, it seems unlikely to be deleted at AFD, which is why I did not see it as appropriate to decline it. Alpha3031 (t • c) 04:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for starting a Requested Move discussion. I don't know why they wouldn't start it, but it belongs at RM, not at DRN. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi,

FYI: Your edit on Karpeles Article was reverted by another editor with the summary: "Reverted 1 edit by Alpha3031 (talk): Read the sources"

The attached source stated: "In total, $5 million was seized as Mt. Gox failed to register in the U.S. as a money transmitting company."

While another attached source stated: U.S. government agents seized $5 million from its accounts for allegedly lying on bank documents.

I would go with Source one, the techcrunch.com article, since it seems more familiar with the topic.

Not sure if the money.cnn article is reliable and notable enough to use the wording "allegedly lying on bank documents.". 86.98.213.4 (talk) 11:15, 4 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

 

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