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BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 19:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC) Reply

Hi @Sunshineisles2:, I noticed on your recent edits to Dick Pope (cinematographer), that you deleted a reference from the British Society of Cinematographers, a reliable source.

Whilst I appreciate that The Guardian article was more detailed, there was no harm in listing an additional source for the subject's death without deleting the original reference. The Wiki article in question is short and could use more sources and information in the first place.

Please also be in no doubt – The Guardian most certainly do not have a superiority over other reliable sources. In fact, broadsheet obituaries are often written as second hand knowledge after becoming aware of original sources that give notice of death, like professional organisations such as the BSC, or other actor/trade unions.

Oversourcing of information can be a problem, but two sources is not excessive. In future, please add more references but do not delete existing ones. Thanks Jkaharper (talk) 23:40, 29 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello, thanks for your message @Jkaharper: I definitely understand what you mean here. My main reasoning for replacing the BSC article was that it did not provide a death date, and thus did not act as a citation for one of the central claims made in the sentence about Pope's death. The Guardian obituary did list a date, so at the very least that information did not appear to be copied from any of the other sources. It was for that reason that I erred on the side of excluding it, though upon further reflection I appreciate that there were very few sources on this specific article anyway, and thus it was not analogous to the excessive citing that occasionally pops up elsewhere. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 05:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply