Talk:Yahya Ayyash

If Israel has not confirmed its role in the killing of Ayash, how do the authors know that the Shin Bet was responsible?

Moreover, I know for sure the Shin Bet didn't kill him, inasmuch, I'm responsible for his death (and DAMN PROUD of that). I suggest using only hardcore facts we doubtlessly know (and can publish).— Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.132.73.185 (talk • contribs) 5:45, 26 July 2005

The state of Israel never officially confirms or denies its roles in targeted assassinations, but that doesn't stop individuals who work for it from talking about them. Raul654 02:19, 17 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

I've tagged a sentence sourced to Mort Zuckerman that claims that the Israeli practice of targeting master bomb-makers like Ayash led to a reduction in bombings. Zuckerman is not a reliable source for this information. And I couldn't find mention of it in his op-ed here, which by the by, is of the most one-sided, vitrolic rants against Arabs I have read in some time. In any case, this statement seems to be contradicted by the material I added just before it about the four suicide bombings that immediately followed Ayyash's death. It is therefore an exceptional claim that I believe requires an exceptional source. I'd like to remove it altogether until the proper sourcing can be found. Are there any objections? Tiamut^talk 20:59, 12 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

I agree. I also agree that the bit of the security wall is a way to sneak in propaganda. The last part reeks of POV. I am just going to edit it out.GeneralChoomin 17:21, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Moreover, Shmuel Katz (former propaganda chief of the Irgun) is not a reliable source for anything at all. It is regrettable that so much of this article is based on Katz' popular book. Zero^talk 03:01, 27 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

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@Icewhiz: Zero^talk 15:51, 13 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Yikes! I'll take your word that I misidentified the author. Thank you for noticing that. I stand by my assessment of the reliability of the Irgun guy, which you did not counter with any valid argument, but now that is irrelevant. I'll also delete and revdel that part of our discussion since, as you say, it could be mistaken for an attack on a living person. If you want any text from it, you can ask me to extract it. Zero^talk 15:46, 13 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

No worries. It is a common name. There's a (probably unrelated) Canadian pol BLP (Sam Katz) with the same initials (and possibly full name - didn't check what the M. stands for). For Jews (or Jewish origin) Katz is a very common surname and Samuel is a very common given name.Icewhiz (talk) 15:55, 13 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

You really shouldn't revdel discussions you participated in, particularly when you delete the whole thing rather than just redact only the specific things that may warrant deletion. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 21:42, 13 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

What is the meaning of that word in that context? Is this article biased? 2A06:C701:4539:E00:446C:B62C:348F:4729 (talk) 20:09, 9 October 2023 (UTC)Reply