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Latest comment: 9 months ago by Borgenland in topic some rules

some rules

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Do you think we should make rules excluding explosions caused by terrorist attacks or arsons — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garmin21 (talkcontribs) 14:09, 13 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

The list needs a clearer definition and judging by a quick glance it mostly/only includes accidental explosions at the moment. This would rule out terrorist attacks, arson, but also some notable military test and intentional bombings that seem to be already excluded at the moment and would probably make it too crowded. I also noticed that the cathegory "Lists of explosions by century" seems somewhat inappropriate at the moment and wanted to point out that the recent edits I manually reverted seemed a valid contribution discoraged by table syntax and may be worth considering. Personuser (talk) 23:44, 10 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
One important point that should be considered is how is this list different from Largest_artificial_non-nuclear_explosions. There should probably also be some clearer guidelines for notability. Other partly overlapping lists are List_of_pipeline_accidents and List_of_ammonium_nitrate_disasters. We could exclude these entries giving a link to the relevant list or use them to find relevant missing entries. For yours exemples links to List_of_terrorist_incidents and List_of_fires may be considered, but these have a wider scope. Personuser (talk) 19:39, 20 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
I do not agree we should add a notability rule (maybe explosions that have no injures or deaths should be excluded) but besides that I don't agree with notability rules or it will end up like List of accidents and disasters by death toll explosion section. Adding a rule excluding ammonium nitrite and pipeline explosions excludes nearly Half of all entries, Then what will be the point of this list, it will not be a list of accidental explosions anymore. A rule against terrorist attacks and arsons is better because it excludes deliberate acts.--Garmin21 (talk) 04:29, 23 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
I think Ammonium nitrite and pipeline explosion lists would be good candidates for a see also section, if it doesn't get too crowded. We probably should also mention that explosions of unknown causes or under investigation are still included. Excluding explosions with no injures or deaths seems a good rule of thumb, we could still include some of them if they are significant for some other reason, unless this brings too many disputes. One of the most distinguishing factors in this list is a major focus on recent explosions, so actually splitting it by centuries seems a good idea, but probably we don't have enough material for the oldest ones at the moment. I get that excluding intended military or civil explosions isn't controversial. If there isn't much more feedback I'll probably try to expand the lead section in the following days/year. Personuser (talk) 14:12, 23 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
So we can both agree that Explosions with no deaths or injures should be excluded unless it has significance for some other reason and to mention that explosions of unknown causes or under investigation are still included. Many of the pipeline explosions that are on this list aren't on the List of pipeline accidents and vice versa. For instance a pipeline explosion near Warri Nigeria killed 300 on 12 July 2000 that explosion isn't on the List of pipeline accidents.--Garmin21 (talk) 03:07, 25 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
We can both agree, but explosions with 0 death/injuries don't seem to be a problem as urgent as I thought, so don't hurry enforcing this rule just for my comment. The main problem I see with these entries is that they are likely to be added when they are fresh news and ignored by later editors and this is a common problem for all recent events. Some links to other lists would make it easier for editors/readers to improve both this and the other lists, check eventual discrepancies and compare different sources. The case you mentioned and probably others seem to be legitimate entries for both lists. I would link to largest explosions and accidents and disasters by death toll too; here there are more entries, but this information is valuable and probably inappropriate for those lists, worst case we could move most of the content to some century specific articles, for which is more reasonable to be more detailed. I would also add the dynamic list template and write that here explosions are grouped by time period and not by shear power or death toll or something similar, this has more to do with the wording of he lead secion and it would make more sense to discuss it once it's written, if it's controversial at all (feel free to write it down before me). Personuser (talk) 05:39, 25 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Ok, we can do what you want to do and if any problem arise we can discuss it later.--Garmin21 (talk) 23:27, 25 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Some entries need to be deleted. Especially those with articles that were indeed later deleted due to lack of notability. Borgenland (talk) 06:30, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Decided to remove entries with less than 5 casualties except if they have their own article. Will consider removing also incidents with less than 5 dead. To remove extreme bloatedness of recent decades. Borgenland (talk) 06:32, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Belle explosion date

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The linked source says tuesday and the Belle,_West_Virginia article currently gives the time December 8, 2020 around 10 pm. There may be some time zone issues or other points I'm missing, but 8 seems right to me. Personuser (talk) 20:03, 11 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Rockets

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I was wondering if we should add something from List of spaceflight-related accidents and incidents and rockets in general. Largest artificial non-nuclear explosions covers some of these cases. If we add them I guess limiting to cases with injuries or deaths would be needed. They don't seem too fitting for this list, but I can't see a clear way to esclude them, apart from simply telling this list doesn't cover them. Some differences could be the fact that some failures are already expected, at least during tests, and that incidents happen in isolated areas and with a lot of precautions, because the risks involved are known. This is a pretty specific topic, but I guess some discussion could help to better define the article's subject. Personuser (talk) 22:03, 23 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

January 2023 Panjin, Liaoning province, China chemical plant explosion

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https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/2-killed-12-missing-north-china-chemical-plant-96453479

- Anonymous-ish 75.226.100.219 (talk) 17:33, 25 April 2023 (UTC)Reply