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Latest comment: 5 years ago by Pkgx in topic Relationship of pilferage to theft

Shoplifting

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I have a question about shoplifting. I have always been told that as long as you are still in the store that they cannot approach you or have you arrested for shoplifting. I thought you had to conceal the item and leave the store before they could arrest or search your items? Is this correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.213.205.32 (talkcontribs) 00:36, February 20, 2009

Well, they may not be able to have the police arrest you, but they can always ask you to leave, or (subtlety) pressure you into confessing something in the back room. --Redoubts (talk) 12:50, 27 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

How To

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That middle list reeks of WP:NOTHOWTO violation, particularly the first bit, what with the question marks & such.Therealpirateblue (talk) 20:24, 17 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

  • I agree that this section was worded to suggest "how to". I have changed the wording somewhat and also have some additional references and patents to add soon. It will be more of a "how it has been done in the past" section. Pkgx (talk) 13:43, 19 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 2 December 2019

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The result of the move request was: Withdrawn by nominator (non-admin closure) ZXCVBNM (TALK) 02:54, 3 December 2019 (UTC)Reply



Package pilferagePackage theft – Per consistency with art theft, identity theft, etc. as well as WP:COMMONNAME. It seems the current title is redundant anyhow, as "pilferage" alone refers to the theft of small items. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 21:26, 2 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

  • Oppose - - - Pilferage usually refers to taking items from a package; Package Theft refers to the theft of the entire package or pallet load. Of course there is some overlap but they are different. If you want to start an article on transportation theft, logistics theft, package theft, etc, please go ahead and start the new article. Leave this article alone. Pkgx (talk) 01:04, 3 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

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Relationship of pilferage to theft

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There is an article about package theft. Certainly this article about packaging pilferage is related, but it is different. Pilferage usually relates to the unauthorized opening of a package and removing (theft) part or all of the contents. Theft is a much broader term for theft of entire packages, pallet loads, truck loads, etc.

As this article indicates, there are several methods of making a package more tamper resistant. There are few package modifications which would make a package resistant to theft. Package pilferage is also related to tampering: intentional malfunction, altering or adulteration, sabotage, terrorism, etc. There are tamper resistant packages, often using Tamper-evident technology. Pilfer-resistant packages often have similar features as tamper-resistant packages.

There are hundreds of pilfer-resistant packages documented by patents. Here are five examples: - US7051876B2 Pilfer-resistant packaging with criss-cross grain pattern, - US4819822A Pilfer resistant beverage case, - US4399914A Pilfer resistant container, - US3621989A Pilfer resistant reclosable container, - US4890754A Pilfer-resistant plastic closure.

Clearly package pilferage is related to tampering but with the purpose of theft of contents. It is related to theft but involves taking something from a package, sometimes concealing the unauthorized opening. Package pilferage is a valid subject for Wikipedia. Pkgx (talk) 14:46, 4 December 2019 (UTC)Reply