Talk:Martin Balsam
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Jewish family
edit"born to a Jewish family" is a racial stereotype. If the person is Jewish, just say it. ----me.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.187.180.63 (talk • contribs) .
- 1. Please do not remove text from an article without leaving a summary remark. 2. A person can be born to a Jewish family without being a praticing Jew him or herself. -- Dcflyer 03:06, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes you can be born to a Jewish family without being a practicing Jew, but this is just perpetuating a racial stereotype. What is the motivatation for promoting this racial stereotype? Are you obsessed with this? How about adding "born to a Christian family" to other articles? I don't understand what you mean by leaving a summary remark. My rationale should be clear. ----me—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.187.180.63 (talk • contribs) .
- Providing factual information in an encylcopedia is far from perpetuating a racial stereotype. Also, what racial stereotype is being perpetuated? By saying "racial stereotype" do you mean Anti-Semetism? Take a look a some other Wikipedia articles: List of Jewish Americans, List of Jewish American actors, and List of British Jews. Do you think these promote "racial stereotypes" as well? This article is already tagged with the category, Category:Jewish American actors. Finally, let me address your point about not having "born to a Christian family" on other articles. The subjects of biographies on the English Wikipedia are overwhelming from the U.S., Canada, the UK, and Australia. The majority of individuals from these countries are Christian. In the minority are Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, and others. Pointing this out is simply providing factual information to the reader and cannot be at all compared to attaching a Star of David or a Red Crescent to these articles. -- Dcflyer 21:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
There are indeed racial stereotypes about Jewish families, just as there are stereotypes about Asian families and black families. Why don't you start adding "born to an Asian family" and "born to a black family" to articles, Dcflyer? Why is there an obsession with promoting a stereotype about Jewish families? There's nothing wrong with saying someone is Jewish, if they are Jewish. Just say it directly, don't promote the "Jewish family" stereotype. ----Signed, me.
What is the source for the statement that Martin Balsam had Jewish parents? I doubt that this edit reflected actual research. 67.187.180.63 04:45, 14 July 2006 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.56.26.119 (talk) 02:03, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- With Jewish families in particular, people often like to know where they emigrated from, and of course their ethnicity is a big part of the story. Valetude (talk) 16:20, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
Date Of Birth
edit--Travisbickle87 (talk) 22:46, 10 July 2012 (UTC)A quick search on Birth Database.com will verify that Martin Balsam was born on 14th November 1919, as opposed to 4th November as listed here.
- Social Security Death Index says he was born November 4, 1919 and died February 13, 1996. Not definitive, but good enough for now. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 23:26, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
https://www.dobsearch.com/people-finder/view.php?t=1342045239&searchnum=109057038787--Travisbickle87 (talk) 22:21, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
- Do we have any reason to think this source is definitive? Most bios I can look at say November 4, and so does the Social Security Death Index. Peoplefinders could have made a typo. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 22:38, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
Military Service
editIntro should contain his military service with appropriate crest of rank. 109.154.200.24 (talk) 18:17, 9 August 2023 (UTC)