Talk:Assyrian nationalism

Merge

I have imported the "continuity" paragraph from [[names of Syriac Christians". The question of cultural continuity is a topic of Assyrianism (in the sense that Assyrianism needs to postulate continuity). The quotations seem to boil down to the situation that the question is unsettled and somewhat disputed, but that there does seem to be a good chance that some amount of Assyrian continuity may have survived in the lowest strata of society. It will obviously be impossible to gauge its precise nature or extent since there are no sources (it is impossible to get a clear picture of the lower classes anywhere in ancient history). --dab (𒁳) 10:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Time to split?

I think the section about continuity claims is making the article disproportionately long. Would anyone mind if I move it to a separate article and keep a concise mention here?--Rafy talk 00:59, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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According to Dr. David B. Perley, one of the founding fathers of Assyrianism, Assyrian is defined as:

When a person is of Assyrian blood, he retains his birthright, self-esteem, and the heritage of his fathers. It is for this very reason that he may be called a Jacobite-Assyrian, Nestorian-Assyrian, Assyrian-Presbyterian, or Chaldean-Christian. Calling someone a Jacobite-Assyrian should be no more amazing than calling someone else an Irish Catholic. It is a mere matter of hyphenated description, not a hyphenation or division. A hyphen does not divide; it unites. The use of the term Nestorian-Assyrian is the simplest way of designating a Nestorian, who comes from, or who has, an Assyrian background. The term Assyrian is one single unity. The approach of this oneness of all Assyrians regardless of their religious adherence is through the avenue of blood, and through the majesty of common memories. Religions is a faith acquired and is changeable. Nationality is one's flesh and blood; it is his total nature. Even death cannot undo it.^[1]

Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 23:38, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Aprim, Fred (2005). Assyrians: The Continuous Saga. United States: Xlibris Corporation. ISBN 1413438571. OCLC 58448793. cited from back cover

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Merge with Assyrian independence movement

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To not merge (or not yet) on the grounds that these are distinct topics (or not yet ready for merging). Klbrain (talk) 05:07, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

These two pages overlap in the sense that the Assyrian independence movement is Assyrian nationalism in practice. Nationalism is the theory by which the indepdence movement operates, I don't think it's possible to seperate the two. Can someone else please give their opinion? Ramsin93 (talk) 18:30, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, these two concepts are not distinguishable since Assyrian independence is by definition an Assyrian nationalist movement. They would better be covered as 1 article. (t · c) buidhe 07:17, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm also in favor of a merge, after an extensive cleanup. Mooonswimmer 17:52, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose two different topic. 103.255.6.252 (talk) 10:07, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the independence movement article is huge. It's clearly notable enough. Super Ψ Dro 10:22, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Bit biased

this article only lists people who agree Assyrians of today are direct descendants of ancient Assyrians. There are plenty of scholars and arguments on the other side, why is this article so biased and not mention anything for the other side of the debate? 2001:DF4:3200:1500:554B:9AA6:7665:4F23 (talk) 01:39, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Aprim, Fred (2005). Assyrians: The Continuous Saga. United States: Xlibris Corporation. ISBN 1413438571. OCLC 58448793. cited from back cover

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