Talk:.30-03 Springfield

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The contents of the .30-01 page were merged into .30-03 Springfield on 24 November 2020. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page.

Since the round is correctly .30-'03, the page should be moved. TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 01:51, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have requested a reference citation for the addition of the .280 Remington to the statement about the .270 WCF, since I believe the ,280 does not use the original shoulder, but moved the shoulder forward to avoid chambering .280 cartridges in .270 rifles. Thewellman (talk) 02:17, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reading the article it sounds like the 30-03 were an original development, while in fact both the cartridge and the gun it was used in, were based on Mauser or other German developments.

AFAIK the 30-03 cartridge was designed by lengthening the 7 x 57 or 7.92 x 57 case. The design was done after the US army encountered the 7 x 57 in the Spanish American war. The aim was to produce a cartridge more powerful than the 7 x 57 or 7.92 X 57. You can compare the measurements of any of the 57mm Mauser cartridges, that are again based on the M88 pattern German cartridge or 8 x 57 I. The measurements are nearly identical, but the length. The agreed upon payments for patent infringement never happened because the advent of the great war.

The change from the 30-03 to 30-06 again copies the development in Europe. First the French changed the 8 mm Lebel to a 198 grain spitzer boat tailed bullet and than the German changed the 7.92 x 57 to a 153 grain spitzer bullet with a muzzle velocity of 2880 ft/s. Looking at those developments, the US changed the cartridge to the 30-06 version with a 150 grain spitzer bullet with a muzzle velocity of 2700 ft/s, about copying the performance of the 7.92 x 57 S.Jochum (talk) 04:49, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

a reference for the above https://www.chuckhawks.com/great_cartridge_families.htm Jochum (talk) 05:35, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]