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We had Wikipedia:Requests for comment/BASC reform 2014 and then Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Ban appeals reform 2015. It looks like an uphill job getting rid of it. Doug Weller (talk) 12:36, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Not really, we can just say that we will stop dealing with appeals of community sanctions (retaining jurisdiction only over CU-blocks, OS-blocks and blocks based on non-public information), which is what I've been advocating for for a while now. It only requires that we're willing to get rid of that time sink. Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 13:02, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Salvio. Basically, Arbcom could and probably should resolve by motion to no longer handle any blocks but the ones above - effectively disbanding BASC. Then, it's up the community to work out a final / off-wiki group discussion. I'd even recommend that Arbcom "recommends" the community picks up the slack. But getting the appeal forum set up first? That's going to be a non-starter. Worm^TT(talk) 13:30, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Actually that's a good idea. We should propose such a motion. Leting the community deal with appeals of community sanctions makes sense and also adds transparency. Doug Weller (talk) 09:44, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

I agree we should just do it by motion and let the community work out something for its own appeals. I'll draft something now. Roger Davies ^talk 14:05, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

@Roger Davies, Doug Weller, and Salvio giuliano: Well, I've stuck a close on this now, it appears abolishing BACS is the consensus reached there are well... Mdann52 (talk) 15:03, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Doug Weller (talk) 15:12, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. See this motion, just posted.  Roger Davies ^talk

(talk page stalker)... and my off the wall idea is here: User:NE Ent/Extinct. It is simple, relatively easy, makes sense, and will likely be soundly rejected ... NE Ent 00:02, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

I see you've mentioned this elsewhere too, NE Ent. I do like the idea and it would have my support - however, I don't believe you will get consensus for it. It might have worked if it was brought in at the inception of Wikipedia, but the amount of people who will cite some of our worst LTA cases, such as Grawp. Perhaps if you put in a modification that the person hasn't been around for 3 years evading it... well you might stand more of a chance. Worm^TT(talk) 12:48, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Well, it's too rough at this point to move forward, which is why it's still in user space; the fundamental issue is how do we get everyone to move forward when there always seem to be a few folks who cling to grudges. Your suggestion is good and I'll add it: (talk page stalker) welcome also. NE Ent 13:03, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

It's not far off my similar essay to be honest... just putting the onus on the community, not the editor, and I think that's why you'll struggle. Worm^TT(talk) 13:08, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

You haven't edited an article this month yet. Just thought I'd point that one out. Rcsprinter₁₂₃ (spiel) 21:27, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

It happens. I haven't found the energy to start writing on a topic since I came off arbcom. I dont' think I've even made 50 article edits this year. If anyone blocks me for WP:NOTHERE, I'd understand! Worm^TT(talk) 08:34, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

You were THERE where quality counts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:18, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) On this theme, I mentioned to an admin much earlier this year (he has been very inactive from this summer onwards, northern hemisphere) some notions that I have been ruminating on to improve WP. As I have recently been bitten by another admin for my 'ignorance of mediawiki software', would you be receptive to me running these ideas past you for comment (considering your IT background)? I can do it by email if you'd prefer. I have roughed-out the basics somewhere as a draft but may not get to it until after UK office hours Thurs, so no urgency. Thx.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 13:03, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Certainly happy to help with ruminations, by email or on wiki :) Worm^TT(talk) 13:06, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Roger, Wilco, email I think. Muchas.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 13:13, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

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You have this note: "I need to look into Timtrent. The name rings a bell and I can't put my finger on why." They usually go by their WP:DOPPLEGANGER of User:Fiddle_Faddle, which may be why you don't recognize the User:Timtrent moniker on first glance. Very level-headed. Mostly they work the AfC queue, but they also delve into controversial topic-areas[1] from time to time (9/11 and Mormonism and LGBT issues,[2] that I know of). p.s. And while I am here, who ought to be running this year, but has not yet self-nom'd? Thanks. 75.108.94.227 (talk) 20:31, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

That's not it 75.108 - I'm aware he's Fiddle Faddle, but I've bumped into him in the past or looked at something he did... I just for the life of me can't remember what. Worm^TT(talk) 08:33, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

I had all but forgotten about the area you recalled eventually. Having re-read all I said at the area you found I see that it still holds true today. I detest knee jerk rule making. I detested it then and I detest it now. Your words about me on your voters' guide are very flattering. I thank you for them. I hope, if elected, I am able to live up to them. .

What worries me at present is the lack of candidates for election. We are meant to be electing "the best" and all we have at the moment is "the willing". Take any 9 out of 10. That is not an election even if folk vote. I took persuading in order to stand. Others are, surely, susceptible to persuasion as well. 75.108 is doing pretty well in the persuasion stakes, but how do we persuade more folk to stand? Fiddle Faddle 14:38, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm not worried. 13 candidates added themselves on the last day last year, including 7 of those that were elected. More will show up sooner or later. Worm^TT(talk) 15:06, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

I hope we get a goodly number so that at least 18, that is double the number of vacancies, are in the ring. More will be very welcome. Your comment gives us hope. Remember, we get the committee we deserve, but not necessarily the one we need. Fiddle Faddle 15:21, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Which reminds me, 75.108 - I can't say anyone ought to be running, as my advice to all is to not run. I expect people won't take that advice, but I certainly can't go round pointing at people who I think shouldn't take my advice - it would be a bit hypocritcal! Worm^TT(talk) 15:07, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Given your experience on the committee and the expressive way you convey your advice, well, it holds a lot of weight. I imagine that your words have dissuaded a number of editors who were idly considering throwing their hat in the ring to decide that what they were doing right now was good enough. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:48, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps. But I've see Arbcom destroy some good people. I know the effect it had on me. I refuse to let people go in there without some idea of how they might find it. Worm^TT(talk) 08:17, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I agree. Better warned ahead of time than have an editor become a candidate with a "What the hell!" attitude and find themselves surprised by the nature of what being an arbitrator really involves. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 12:31, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

There are a couple possible outcomes. Not enough people run, as Worm_That_Turned is advocating, and some wiki-faction decides to pack the candidate-list with a slate on the last day, and arbcom becomes something that must be disbanded. I see that as a poor result. Similarly, User:Dennis_Brown has opted not to run, and has "half-jokingly" mused that the best way to improve arbcom, is by calling for a vote-them-all-out movement, where voters wishing to dimantle arbcom simply vote nay on ALL candidates for two years running. In both those outcomes, we end up with no arbcom... but nothing to fill the role it formerly had, save AN/I. I don't really like those two hypotheticals.

  So personally, what I would rather see is the third option... an arbcom revitalized, and filled with wikipedians of long experience who are keen on making it function better, more transparently, act with more subtlety, hew closer to the pillars, and generally work towards solving the various problems. I have helped nudge a couple folks into running, and I believe they are good arb-candidate-types. But to slightly repeat myself....

  The WTT voter-guide does recommend folks not run for arbcom, that is true... but then, the User:Kudpung guide-to-RfA also recommends folks not run for adminship.  :-)     Furthermore, I note that although the WTT voter-guide says not to run, it does not contain blanket-opposes in the final decision column, but already has three bang-supports. So although I take your point about hypocrisy, there must be SOME kind of general criteria that would tend to make you bangvote in support, of a candidate who ignores your sound advice to not run in the first place. You need not share it if you do not wish to encourage people unduly, but I would like to know the basis of your decision-making process. I can live with the curiosity, though, if you prefer; mayhap willingness to ignore sound advice, about not running due to the ROI and the stress, is a prerequisite for arb-ship? 75.108.94.227 (talk) 00:15, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Let's be fair, neither my WP:Advice for RfA candidates nor the extensive comments in my User:Kudpung/RfA criteria recommend that editors don't run for office. In a nutshell, what they do emphasise however, is that users should be pretty damn sure they will pass before wasting their own and our time, and that to reach that conclusion, they need to be very honest with themselves because if they're not, they won't make honest admins. Of course, that won't protect us from people like Wifione or Pastor Theo though.

Worm paints a pretty black picture of Arbcom work, and he told me so himself in London last year. Frankly I'm shit scared of the tasks that lie before me if I get elected but I'm getting close to taking the plunge but still haven't completely made my mind up yet. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:40, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

@Kudpung: please take that plunge. I admit to having hesitated. But, having made the decision to throw my hat into the ring the decision became simple. There are important tasks ahead. To get the best of us we need sufficient candidates. Are you, or I, or others the best? I have no idea. But I do know we will get the committee we deserve even if it is not the one we need. The community only gets the chance to chose its view of the best with sufficient candidates. Win or lose, let us make them all think. And, if elected, let us do the job well. Fiddle Faddle 00:55, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Well,Tim, I don't want it to sound as if I'm being a tease, but if it's any consolation I've already written my answers to users' boilerplate questions (at least those I'm going to answer). Now if I could be sure that you will get elected... Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:03, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

ROFLMAO,You, a tease?

I wish some of those questions were actually searching. Folk seem to have the same thing in mind, which is recentism. Many of the questions seem in place to criticise yesterday;s folk, not to see if they can build for the future. I'm not sure what I would ask, and, if I could formulate it I'm not sure whether, as a candidate, I ought to ask it anyway. I am, in the true British sense, playing this with a straight bat. If I am elected I shall also avail myself of the stiff upper lip. The role is daunting. It is how we perform it that will make it less daunting. Simplification is, for me, the key to success. I say that sight unseen, obviously. Fiddle Faddle 07:59, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

The questions, except perhaps those from truly established users, and former arbs are utter rubbish. Some of them are just repeats of other users questions , while most are just lookig for justification for their own actions in the past. Geerally hardly any of the qyestions are relevant to the election.

That said, I finally made my decision and promptly made a mess of the transclusion - just as I did last year. Fortunately, being a admin, like I believe all candidates should be, I have the tools to delete the messed up pages I made, and start over again. I have a couple of days left to get it riht this time ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:05, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm glad you made your decision. We will all be the better for a large pool from which to choose. I found the entry process arcane in the extreme, and wondered why some kind soul has not created a script. I suppose it was a test. I made use of the preview button more times than I remember ever doing it previously when I sent my hat in. Fiddle Faddle 13:32, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello. When I transclude your voter guide (and the others) into a single page (to facilitate reading and comparisons), the resulting page becomes a member of the [[Category:Wikipedia Arbitration Committee Elections 2015 voter guides]]. To correct that, the Category in your page should be protected by a pair of <noinclude>...</noinclude>. In the Main space, I would have done that by myself. In your Userspace, I think it is polite to ask your permission. Pldx1 (talk) 12:14, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

As long as you are not editting the meaning of the opinions within, please feel free to make any changes to the guide to make your life easier. Worm^TT(talk) 12:18, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for your permission. Pldx1 (talk) 15:29, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello Worm. I remember you had a way to update this page. At least I think it was you. Any ideas? Peter Damian (talk) 18:41, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Peter Damian, sorry this got over looked. I think you're right, that I did something like that - but I think whatever I did was very manual. I'll certainly have a look in the new year, but I'm not sure what needs to be done at the moment. Sorry! Worm^TT(talk) 08:47, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

I am in a curious mood of today. For example I am curious whether you think the Birmingham Six should have compromised on the forensic evidence, maybe admitting to nitroglycerin on their right hands if the prosecution would admit there was none on their left hands?

Let me tell you a story I rather like about the proponent of compromise who came across two boys quarrellings over a cake. When asked what was the matter the first boy said "He wants my cake, I said he can have half, but he wants it all." The adult replied, with that remarkable perspicacity denied to the young "Well compromise, let him have three-quarters."

All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:23, 21 November 2015 (UTC).

Rich, from my point of view, you only want vindication. As there is no justice on Wikipedia, it would be far better to move on. Not doing so after this many appeals, just means the same arguments are brought up in perpetuity, wasting everyone's time. Of course, I'm not on the committee any more - so I have the luxury of keeping my own time for what I want to use it for. Worm^TT(talk) 10:54, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

How's it going? I initially dropped by to let you know about my candidacy withdrawal and to thank you for your kind yet honest remarks in your voter guide. However, I be noticing you're a lurver of the South West, and actually created the Doom Bar article, so this is probably going to end up being a "I'm Cornish and you're alright in my book" spiel samtar ^{t} 14:56, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Samtar, thanks for the nudge. I removed your candidacy from my table soon after, I'll remove the row all together now I know you're not on the bill. As for Doom Bar, I'm sure I'll get on to writing some more Cornish articles Dreckly. Worm^TT(talk) 10:56, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

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		Thanks for your voter's guide, which I used as a starting point for my review of the candidates. --Pine✉ 21:02, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Seconded. We didn't agree on every candidate, but you got me to rethink my opinions for some and confirmed them for others. Thanks for taking the time to write it up! I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 12:19, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Well thank you both for the kind words. I don't expect people to agree with me, but I thought it would be good to explain why I think a certain way :) Worm^TT(talk) 12:21, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanksgiving

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Thank you as well for good explanations. Still a restricted woman, I don't dare to "guide" but collected some answers. I also copied your template (and followed, supporting six), and added music today for a festive occasion --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:56, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

@Worm That Turned, Newyorkbrad, and Dennis Brown: As expressed in the title, I am finally here to appeal my topic ban but also with a new proposal. As it is, it's been about a year and a half since I re-joined Wikipedia. Worm That Turned told me to show the arbcom that I can be a productive user in one of my first conversations with him (probably part of gaining the arbcom's trust). In the year and a half since I returned, I have created almost thirty pages (most of which I can guarantee would not exist today had I not returned to create them) with the intention of creating more and made hundreds of edits on various topics. I think it should be more than sufficient enough to earn the trust of the committee. There are a number of articles on Pakistan that need updating and others that need creation and I'm just the man to do it.

I still intend to create and work on articles not related to Pakistan topics, but would like to work on those side by side as well. But if the arbcom is still worried about my edits on these topics I come with the proposal of a restriction of one revert per week on any topics on or related to Pakistan as well as India and Afghanistan (excluding vandalism) for that matter so I can continue creating and working on some of my desired topics without worrying the arbcom. If I can continue for at least a month with this one-revert-per-week restriction without worrying the committee, then the topic ban should be lifted all together. I also offer to stay away from articles sanctioned by the committee, but I'll let the arbcom decide on that.

However, if the committee continues to enforce a complete ban, all I can term it as obstructing a user from contributing in his best ability and therefor obstructing the development of Wikipedia all together. I think this topic ban is ridiculous when going back to it's roots, but I'd rather not get into what happened several years ago. I am here to express that I kept my end of the deal and wish for the committee to give something back, specifically trust, in return.

Looking forward to your responses.--Nadirali نادرالی (talk) 03:40, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi User:Nadirali. You've chosen 3 people not on the committee! I would suggest you file an request at the clarifications and amendments page, the committee will look at it I'm sure. Worm^TT(talk) 08:43, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

OK I will. I am a bit surprised to learn this, but I will follow your advice.--Nadirali نادرالی (talk) 02:50, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

here it is. Did I do it right?--Nadirali نادرالی (talk) 21:49, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Right enough :) Worm^TT(talk) 10:54, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. :-) and an arbitrator was kind enough to fix my mistakes there.--Nadirali نادرالی (talk) 04:05, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

re: our comments at AE2 PD-talk (which appears to be taking the place of a workshop?). Seriously though - I don't know Dave. Just from my own observations though - I think some of those who are a bit longer in the tooth in real life - perhaps they have a bit less patience for being baited. It's easy to tell users: DNFTT - but when it happens to a person, often over years, and often by those who are supposed to be administrators .. it's rather difficult to tell someone "just don't say anything". We often ask people to swallow their pride in the name of civility - and I'm sorry - that's just not right. Just IMO. — Ched :  ?  11:44, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

I get it, but... well, what's the solution from that side? Ban all the trolls? Allow certain editors to say what they want? It doesn't lead to a collaborative atmosphere. Nor does banning anyone who is ever rude! There's no easy solution here. Worm^TT(talk) 12:15, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Dave, I ... I just don't know. Split things into Civilipedia and Adultpedia? :-). meh - even when I do have ideas - I don't have any weight to put behind them. Thanks for the ear though. Always appreciated. — Ched :  ?  12:39, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

And suddenly the reader suffers by having two more 'pedias to choose from, based on in-fighting. I'd quite like some outside-the-box ideas, like edit filters which stop people from hanging round AN/ANI, or forces them to make X article edits per non-article edits... Or even a bot which reverts pointy statements or baiting. It may even help :D Worm^TT(talk) 12:45, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

I just rollbacked you by accident: sorry about that. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 14:59, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Don't worry, it happens :) Worm^TT(talk) 15:01, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

You were recently listed as a party to a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kevin Gorman. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kevin Gorman/Evidence. Please add your evidence by December 28, 2015, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kevin Gorman/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 10:55, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Lankiveil. I do not intend to participate significantly in the case as I simply don't have the time, but I do appreciate the note. Worm^TT(talk) 11:06, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Gooday Dave. I sent you a wiki-email relating to my input at this section: User talk:Worm That Turned/Archive 31#You haven't.... As I haven't received a response, could you please confirm if you received it? I left it a while, but gradually surmised the following consequences:

• inappropriate content and ignored
• tl;dr
• need more time to consider and/or refer
• not received

I did mention that I was not good with hardware, software and settings, and, naively, formatted it as a draft email without having even seen the message-interface (having only-recently established a dedicated wiki-address), which I found was a simple message-field. I did tick the 'send me a copy' box but didn't get one, and also didn't send a {{YGM]] - should of, as they say in the modern idiom. Thanks.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 13:45, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

No sign of anything from 13th November, I'm afraid. Feel free to send it directly to worm.that.turnedgmail.com Worm^TT(talk) 13:47, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, in hindsight and considering the first two aspects of the bulleted list, an abridged version would be better, firstly. Will sort it from the draft tonight, for you on Monday. rgds.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 13:53, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Email address has been working for a couple of months, but just as incoming messages.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 14:04, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Hey Dave, I'm hoping you can find a few moments to voice your thoughts on something. I am considering putting up the {{rpa}} template for deletion. (everyone get their smiles and chuckles in here - then read on.) I understand it is an established protocol, and I've even used it myself - but here's the thing: I does nothing to deescalate a tense situation. It serves as a Scarlet Letter slapped on a person who is already upset. It's only going to increase disruption, not calm it. When people see a post like "I think User:Example is (Personal attack removed)", it immediately draws attention to a situation, and the person who said (Personal attack removed) is immediately going to feel that they are being attacked.

I'm thinking perhaps it's best if there is a need to remove something - just remove the offending remarks, and not slap a "look what this bad person did" template into their posts.

(note: I am also interested in the thoughts of Iridescent, NYB, Drmies, DGG, SarahSV, Bish, Carcharoth, Risker, 28bytes, WJBscribe, Dennis, and many other fine wikipedians. I'll save the (IAR Canvass) "pings" and notifications for later - but encourage any of your (talk page stalker)'s comments.) — Ched :  ?  13:37, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

You make some good points - the main thing that this template does is divert the reader from the actual discussion by introducing another strand; users then tend (well I do) to look in the history to see the original post and evaluate whether the context has been changed by removal of text. pablo 13:47, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

I'd support the deletion. If a personal attack should be removed, it should be removed in a manner that doesn't make it obvious that it removed. Otherwise, you're drawing attention to the personal attack and as you say, escalating the situation. Worm^TT(talk) 13:49, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

• note: I did find this, so it's not entirely without precedent. — Ched :  ?  13:52, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

• I'm inclined to agree. The template draws attention to whatever was removed. SarahSV ^(talk) 17:09, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
• Ditto; as I've said elsewhere ad nauseam I'm no fan of marks of Cain in any of their forms, be it those people who see it as their mission in life to plaster {{blocked user}} templates on peoples' talkpages or the self-appointed Civility Police. It's rare that a comment is genuinely so inappropriate that it needs to be redacted (the overwhelming majority of uses of the {{rpa}} template are "someone said something of which I disapprove" rather than "someone made a comment so offensive that it shouldn't be allowed to stand", and as regards those comments which are so offensive they need to be removed, we should be quietly removing and revdeleting them rather than plastering "hey, look at what I did" templates which just encourage people to look at the history to see what justified the removal. (A rule of thumb which usually works fairly well is, if the comment isn't so offensive that you can justify not just the removal but the revision deletion, you probably shouldn't be removing it in the first place.) ‑ Iridescent 17:18, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

• See: here. I'll try to fix the format. And thank you all for your input. — Ched :  ?  17:39, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

You said in the current security review RfC that you might start a Meta RfC on two factor auth. I'd be interested in participating in such an RfC, so are you planning on starting it soon? —Tom Morris (talk) 16:21, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi Tom . I think I said that I would start a meta RfC on the same general security questions as the en.wp one and ask the question about 2FA, as I wasn't sure how feasible it would be. Now that the first RfC has closed, Chris Steipp is getting that sorted on a Phabricator ticket. He's also stated that 2FA is going to be one of the goals for the security team next quarter - [3], which is all good news. I think User:Bawolff might be doing the hard work for me on the meta RfC too, but I'll keep you posted when I hear more about that. Worm^TT(talk) 17:32, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Great stuff. I've been playing around with Universal 2nd Factor on a personal project recently, and either U2F or Time-based One-time Password Algorithm would be amazing, if somewhat overdue. —Tom Morris (talk) 17:56, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

@Tom Morris: The rfc is not quite started yet, but I put the first draft at meta:Requests_for_comment/Password policy_for_users with_certain advanced_permissions. BWolff (WMF) (talk) 06:14, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

I came from the list of nominators and I would like to ask if I am ready to be an admin yet Cheers, Nahnah4 (talk | contribs | guestbook) 09:12, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

@Nahnah4: Thanks for asking! I'm afraid I don't think you're quite there yet, but that's more due to the high standards expected of Wikipedia administrators than your record. I'd say if you carry on as you are for another year, you'd be very seriously considered, more so if you focus on suggestions mentioned in my magic formula. So set yourself some goals for the next year, create some content and get it reviewed by your peers, spend a little time working in administrative areas and generally just keep going. Then come back here this time next year and ask again... Good luck! Worm^TT(talk) 09:48, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Sure! Thank you. Nahnah4 (talk | contribs | guestbook) 03:48, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Dave,
For some reason, 78.26's RfA is not appearing on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship chart at the top of the page. I've looked it over and can't see any mistake and I've purged the contents of the page several times. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 15:23, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

The chart is updated by one of User:Cyberpower678's bots. It'll be along sooner or later to update it. Odd that it hasn't been around for 12 hours, I'm sure he'll give it a kick when he's next around. Worm^TT(talk) 15:25, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

From what I understand, there appears to have been a lab outage. So the bots will remain dead until restarted. That being said, they should auto revive around 0:00 UTC.—^cyberpower_{Merry Christmas:Unknown} 15:55, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Yeah the toolserver has been having fun today, though I believe they made some progress and the labs are back up and running -- samtar ^whisper 15:57, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Well, the WP:RFA page has been updated but now there are two different times when the RfA is due to be closed, it is hours earlier on the RFA page (which went active this morning) than on the chart which seems to have reset two hours ago. There should be a way C678 to get the chart and the RfA page to agree on when the RfA will be closed. I don't know if Dave or 78.26 will have an opinion on which time should be used (next Wednesday in the morning or afternoon?). Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:35, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

The chart was updated manually by a human.—^cyberpower_{Merry Christmas:Unknown} 21:37, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Well, how do we get the two times in sync? I mean, the RfA went live this morning but it only started to be advertised on WP:RFA this afternoon. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:41, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

I transcluded at 14:48, 16 December 2015, but I don't think it appeared for a couple of hours later. If someone wants to revise my RfA page until the later time in the interest of fair voting, then that is fine with me. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 21:51, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

• There we go. It's back up right on time.—^cyberpower_{Merry Christmas:Unknown} 00:50, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Haha, it's okay. Thanks for caring. I'm just going to add my name and country, okay?Michael J.S. 23:36, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

There is a problem about Turkish Kurdistan page. A user which is Bruskom making vandalizm on page. Turkish Kurdistan borders are unclear as everybody knows. The studies on this is so limited. We can use just a few source as CIA, Turkish General Election, Some ethnicity map to estimate the border of Turkish Kurdistan. But this user try to show Kurdish population higher, majority areas larger. He deleted opposite documents which he doesnt like. For example Turkish gerenal election. It is most important documents to show real Kurdish votes and Kurdish majority. For example a map is propered by German "https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Ethnic_Groups_Turkey_Dutch.jpg". Turkish version is File:Türkiyeetnikharitası.JPG. He tries to show Turkish majority cities as Kurdish majority cities. He doeesnt stop the certain individuals from attempting to spread propaganda on this page. I want everybody to know just objective and provable informations. Please help.Antmqr (talk) 17:49, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

I've protected the page. It's not Vandalism, as I've explained on your page. Therefore, you are both liable to be blocked. You're lucky that I'd rather not block you, I don't enjoy blocking people. Instead, I'm hoping you'll try to work it out on the talk page. Worm^TT(talk) 19:05, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

	Seasons Greetings
	Christmas! Christmas, everywhere, on every talk page, I do dispair Seasons being greeted and Wikibreaks told, but still time for a little more editing, for being WP:BOLD! So go on, go forth and enjoy beyond concern Your Wiki will be waiting for when you return. Have a great Holiday Season. Buster Seven Talk 18:35, 21 December 2015 (UTC) This card designed by User:Samtar.

A Cello Concerto. There was no discussion about an ibox for the composer because I created the article ;) - Jean Sibelius is a different story. Would you perhaps cast an eye on the discussion-especially regarding the ruling "don't make it a general discussion ..." - where an three interesting aspect was were entered today? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:17, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

I'm afraid the last thing I want to do is get involved in another infobox debate during the season where we're meant to be jolly! Worm^TT(talk) 08:14, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Ah! perfido

Beethoven 22 December

Go celebrate. I count your edit on Beethoven (Google doodle today) among one of my three favourites, did you know? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:09, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

I did see the Google doodle, one of the best ones I've seen - and no, I didn't realise I'd managed to make your 3 favourites ;) Worm^TT(talk) 13:13, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

In case of curiosity, the oldest of the three was this, and you get to the other if you turn to the 2015 archive of my user page (created to archive pride and prejudice II) and click on "dedicated image", by Drmies. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:59, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

They even can by jolly ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Regarding the title of the first ibox: do you think it's another term for "vested contributors" which you explained to me? I didn't invent it, - one of them did ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:29, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

ps: did you know that when Beethoven had the google doodle on 17 Dec, more than 10.000 clicks went to his list of compositions (mentioned in the infobox)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi! I am Zaaruk from Sri Lanka I would like to ask you to nominate me .If you assume that I am not ready ,Please notify me! ,Thank you! Zaaruk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaaruk (talk • contribs) 05:07, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Not ready yet Zaaruk . Generally editors need to have a lot of experience on Wikipedia before they become administrators, and as yet you can demonstrate almost none. But don't worry, almost everything you can do as an administrator on a normal website, you can do as a normal editor here on Wikipedia! That means you can edit almost any of the articles, or do just about anything else. So don't worry about being an administrator, just enjoy editing Wikipedia :) Worm^TT(talk) 20:16, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaaruk (talk • contribs) 01:38, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind nomination. Thank you for your sage advice. Thank you for your continued support. You are a shining example of what makes this place work. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 23:44, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

You are too kind. You deserve all the credit, just needed the push. Worm^TT(talk) 23:50, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Worm That Turned, I hope you have a Merry Christmas and hope your day is full of the true spirit of the day. Plus, good food, good family and good times. :) Have a Great Day! :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 01:40, 25 December 2015 (UTC) Spread the joy of Christmas by adding {{subst:User:Neutralhomer/MerryChristmas}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Hi, just a note to say that when you deleted the article Ajeetha Begum IPS yesterday, it looks like you missed the talk page Talk:Ajeetha Begum IPS. Regards, AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 00:05, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Mea culpa. I need to get back into practise. Thanks for the heads up and thanks to User:Boing! said Zebedee for fixing my missed deletion. Worm^TT(talk) 16:43, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Good afternoon,

I have noticed you recently (from August '15) deleted the userspace and talkpage of User:Lukeno94. Since then he has appeared to have either changed username or his account may have been deleted, as a result I have a link to him on my main page which has red linked as a result. Would you be able to confirm if he has left Wikipedia, or if he has had a change of name, with no redirections being set? Many thanks Nordic Dragon^talk 14:42, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

• PS - Please can you reply here, with a talkback on my page. I have watched your talkpage, but have a tendency to forget to check back. Thanks Nordic Dragon^talk 14:44, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

  Hi Nordic Dragon. I can confirm that Lukeno94 has exercised his right to vanish and has left Wikipedia. I hope a ping is sufficient, I don't generally bother with talkbacks any more Worm^TT(talk) 16:09, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the clarification. Nordic Dragon^talk 16:21, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Worm That Turned,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:15, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

	Happy New Year!
	Hello Worm That Turned: Did you know ... that back in 1885, Wikipedia editors wrote Good Articles with axes, hammers and chisels? Thank you for your contributions to this encyclopedia using 21st century technology. I hope you don't get any unnecessary blisters. North America1000 03:23, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

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Hello WTT! Quick question – at the former Admins list, former Admin Secret is listed twice. So, should Secret be listed twice? (i.e. did Secret actually have two separate Admin accounts?!) This ends up mattering, because it determines whether there are 813 former Admins, or 814 former Admins... Anyway, thanks in advance. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:19, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Even if he did, he should only be listed once shouldn't he? For example, Law and The Undertow were the same person, and both accounts had the admin right. I'll have a look in the morning to find out the actual stats. Worm^TT(talk) 23:23, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

@IJBall and Worm That Turned: Yes, he had two admin accounts. That particular list includes all accounts that have ever had administrative rights, regardless of whether they belonged to the same person. Graham87 08:08, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Actually, he had three; I'll leave finding them as an exercise for the reader. Graham87 08:17, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello! Your submission of Christian Ramsay at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 17:49, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

On 5 January 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Christian Ramsay, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Christian Ramsay (pictured), honorary member of the Botanical Society of Edinburgh, was so dedicated to botany that she died with a list of plants in her hand? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Christian Ramsay. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

2016

peace bell

Thank you for inspiration and support, especially for Beethoven, - thanks with my review, and the peace bell by Yunshui! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:09, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Click on bell for the soft sound of peace (and jest) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:39, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

ps: ice-breaking, that's how Beethoven felt, DYK? ... that the ice-breaking in the title Islossningen i Uleå älv, a 1889 composition for narrator, men's chorus, and orchestra by Jean Sibelius, was a political statement? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:16, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

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Not many people can pull off a good samosa pun. Well played. --kelapstick^{(on the run)} 09:53, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

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I'm a little older now and I know what I want to do and how to do it. Okay? Please fix this for me. 216.169.83.231 (talk) 21:00, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Tylas. I'm not sure how much I can do to help. You will need to go through the UTRS system to get agreement to be unblocked, and then the tidy up can happen. Worm^TT(talk) 21:08, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi WormTT! I noticed that you were on the list of admins who were willing to nominate users on RFAs and saw that you only had 18k edits. I was wondering if you'd help me train up for an RFA when I think I have enough edits under my belt! I have a list of questions that might be in an RFA and the answers to them here. Are the Answers the good enough for an RFA? Thanks TF ^{{ Contribs } { Edit Quest! }} 19:54, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Titusfox. I'll try to find some time to have a look over the next few days. Worm^TT(talk) 19:53, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

• Hi Titusfox. I'm afraid you wouldn't pass an RfA at the moment, primarily due to lack of experience. Generally, people expect admins to have many thousands of edits and years of experience. I can't think of many who passed with less than 10k edits in the past 5 years. That's very different from when I passed, I only had about 6000 edits, but even then the average number of edits for passing RfA was over 10k.
  Another thing people want to see is content creation, preferably peer reviewed. It's not the easiest thing to do, but without it, there's a strong argument that you will struggle to empathise with those who put a lot of work into the encyclopedia and when it comes down to it, that's what we're here to do. The days of "vandal fighting" admins are long gone, CluebotNG put an end to that, as it is far better at fighting vandalism than any person. On top of that, the number of vandals has fallen in the last 5 years, simply there are less people on Wikipedia.
  Finally, I'm afraid that things like this will stand in your way. There's a strong idea that Wikipedia is not about "fun", but rather the task of writing an encyclopedia.
  
  Of course, if you've got any questions about RfA, feel free to ask them. I don't think your answers are quite up to scratch on the standard questions (you'll have to give MUCH better justification to why your vandal fighting are your "best" edits), many would consider adding a single reference much better than pressing the rollback button. Your block/ban answer misses some important differences. The answer to the hypothetical consensus question doesn't actually answer the question.
  That said, I think you're doing a great job in the stuff you're doing, keep going, focus on articles, I'm sure you'll get there :) Worm^TT(talk) 14:30, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I was thinking about running for adminship again and I wanted to ask you if you'd be willing to nominate me, since you are listed on the WP:RRN page. Everymorning (talk) 19:51, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Everymorning. I'll try to have a look over the next few days. Worm^TT(talk) 19:53, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Cool. Reply on my talk page when you've decided whether you think I'd have a good chance of passing or not (and after you've looked at my two previous RFAs). Everymorning (talk) 22:47, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

• Hi User:Everymorning. I don't think you'd pass an RfA at the moment I'm afraid. There's a few reasons for this, primarily that certain incidents that reflect poorly on you are too recent. I'm going to recommend a few things to do which would give you a decent shot towards the end of the year.
  • Re-work your userpage. I'd possibly even recommend deleting it and starting again. At the moment you give far too much personal information about yourself. Really you want to focus on your user page telling people a bit about what you're interested in on Wikipedia, perhaps some stuff you've achieved whilst on Wikipedia. Continue updating it with positive things, such as barnstars, content you've worked on, etc.
  • On that, focus on content creation. You've done a great job by getting yourself 2 good articles, why not get another couple?
  • This next one is hard - but for at least 6 months, walk away from things that annoy you. Especially ITN - where you've made a few, um, silly comments. I can see why you've said some of them - but many of these comments will be held against you at RfA.

  Hope that gives you something to think about. I do wish you the best of luck, come and have another chat with me in the summer and we can see how you're getting along. Worm^TT(talk) 14:10, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. Everymorning (talk) 14:15, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Glad to help Everymorning. I think you're doing a great job, and it's fantastic to have such a dedicated contributor on the encyclopedia. Some of the stuff I looked at, like your CSD accuracy, was exceptional. I think you were unlucky to join WIkipedia when you did, if you'd joined when I did, you would have waltzed through an RfA. Worm^TT(talk) 14:32, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

So you deleted all my recent pages. So you're not upset with me right? Porchcorpter 11:08, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Upset with you? Not at all. Why should I be upset with you? I only deleted them as you asked for them to be deleted and I happened to be watching. Worm^TT(talk) 11:10, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

For the "female editors" problem before. :P Porchcorpter 11:11, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

I thought you were still upset with me. Porchcorpter 11:11, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Oh no, I was annoyed at the time, but I considered the matter settled by the discussion we had and the fact that you didn't carry on with the statements. I don't hold grudges, people make mistakes, it's the best way to learn. Worm^TT(talk) 11:17, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

On 22 January 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mary Amdur, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mary Amdur gassed her own guinea pigs to prove that breathing sulphuric acid was dangerous? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Amdur. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:03, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I just saw in my watched thread that a bunch of Lukeno94 pages were deleted. Having cooperated and argued with this user many times over the last five years, I am curious as to what happened. Could you perhaps provide me with a link to some conversations elsewhere, as I can't find anything right now? Thanks, best regards.  Mr.choppers | ✎  06:22, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Mr.choppers, Lukeno94 vanished a few months ago on a private request. If he wanted to return, he could simply contact myself or the 'crat list from the vanished account and it could be re-instated. It appears that someone else registered with the same username, pretending to be him, and was subsequently blocked. Worm^TT(talk) 11:43, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Ah, I figured it was something like that. Well, I hope he returns at some time in the future. Cheers,  Mr.choppers | ✎  03:39, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

On 25 January 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Frances Stackhouse Acton, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Fanny Knight excavated a Roman villa, repaired a castle, wrote a book, and was an accomplished botanist and artist? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Frances Stackhouse Acton. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

I came across User:Chuck SMITH who apparently is an admin even though they only have made about 600 edits. He seems to be this Chuck Smith. Even though he founded the Esperanto Wikipedia it seems strange to have admin privileges on en-wiki with so little experience here and to have retained the bit. Do you know the story behind this editor or what is going on? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:59, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It appears they are one of our earliest admins: User:NoSeptember/Early admins (20 Sept 2002). As long as they make at least one edit a year, they will retain administrative privileges. –xeno^talk 23:53, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, xeno, I wasn't aware of that list. That explains how he became an admin but not why he still is. I guess he makes his one edit/year which keeps his status as an "active" admin. I have seen admins with a few thousand edits but never a total that low. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:00, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Just like you said, administrators have no activity requirements except 1 edit/year. –xeno^talk 00:31, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

On 28 January 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cicely Pearl Blair, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Cicely Blair discovered that people with albinism cannot get blackheads? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cicely Pearl Blair. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:02, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

On 30 January 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Elizabeth Alexander (astronomer), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that one of the first women to work in radio astronomy, Elizabeth Alexander, actually preferred geology? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Elizabeth Alexander (astronomer). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

	Hawkeye7 RfA Appreciation award
	Thank you for participating in and supporting my RfA. It was very much appreciated. I tried my best. I have 190 people to thank. I think that's a lot. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:10, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Hey,

I saw that you would be willing to nominate users to become an administrator. I'm fairly new to wikipedia, but have really been enjoying working on counter-vandalism. If you could nominate me, I'd really appreciate it.

Schuddeboomw (talk) 16:15, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Schuddeboomw. Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. I'm afraid you're not quite ready for adminship yet, on Wikipedia, we expect people to have been around for quite a while (a few years) and have made thousands of edits. But don't worry, even as a non-admin, you can do pretty much anything that an admin can do on another site, from removing bad information, to making changes to content to improve it. Worm^TT(talk) 09:58, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

On 19 February 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Angela Hartley Brodie, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Angela Hartley Brodie's award-winning research led to the development of steroidal aromatase inhibitors as new treatments for breast cancer? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Angela Hartley Brodie. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Last year I unsuccessfully ran for ArbCom (former username Wildthing61476), and in your guide for the election you mentioned that if I were to be interested to become an admin you would consider nominating me. I think I'm interested now. Whenever you can, have a look at my edit history and all and give me your honest opinion. If you don't think I'm ready I'll just stick to doing my thing until it's a better time to do so. If you do, I would be honored to have a chance to collaborate as an admin here. RickinBaltimore (talk) 21:17, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi RickinBaltimore. I'll have a look over your contributions to refresh my memory and get back to you soon. Best Worm^TT(talk) 12:39, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Right, and having looked, I'd certainly be happy to nominate you. I can't guarantee you'd pass at present though, I think you'd be a borderline candidate (not that that deters me!) On the other hand, a little work from you would go a very long way towards making you a strong candidate. The most important thing would be to get some content creation under your belt, especially some peer-reviewed content creation. If you could get a good article or two written, or a good number of DYKs, I think your chances would dramatically improve. At the moment, you will be guaranteed some votes against you for lack of content work, which could easily snowball into an unsuccessful attempt. Worm^TT(talk) 13:26, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the honest insight! I guess my issue is trying to determine what to write an article about that doesn't exist, and going from there. I would hate that just because I can't think of an article to write about it would make me a poor choice for an admin. However, I'll see what I can do. If not, it's not a big deal in the end. RickinBaltimore (talk) 14:05, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Well, you've got a few options. There's a lot of articles out there which need expanding, even if they exist, find a subject you like and hit the stub lists. I've been working primarily on female scientists recently and you can find articles which look like this. Yet, after a few days hard work - it looked something like it does now. So the article doesn't have to be completely missing, pressing the "create" button is not the most important thing. DYK will allow you to 5x expand, and many stubs are easy to do that with. Worm^TT(talk) 14:09, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Excellent idea, I think I'll start having a look around and seeing what I can do then. RickinBaltimore (talk) 14:13, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Good luck, let me know if I can be of any assistance, it can be very daunting getting into expanding articles, but it's extraordinarily rewarding and really allows you to better empathise with a significant portion of Wikipedia's community. Worm^TT(talk) 14:15, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Any recommendations on where to get started? I've been picking and choosing articles however sone pointers wouldn't hurt. RickinBaltimore (talk) 15:08, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

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Hi I want to participate in RFA nomination, am I ready can you please tell?BOTFIGHTER (talk) 06:33, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hi BOTFIGHTER, although Worm That Turned will likely give you a more in-depth explanation, I'd like to offer my thoughts. Administrators on Wikipedia do a lot of tasks, all of which require an advanced knowledge of policy and experience. Because of this, most successful RfA candidates have been active in a number of areas (including content creation) for over a year and have amassed a number of edits (normally over 10,000). Currently I don't feel you're at that level, but the work you do is appreciated! Keep up the great work -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 07:13, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for that! Will work on it!BOTFIGHTER (talk) 09:27, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

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The article Mary Amdur you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Mary Amdur for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of David Eppstein -- David Eppstein (talk) 17:41, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

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— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:43, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Should I complete the adoption program, or am I too old for that now? ;-)—^cyberpower_Chat:Online 00:36, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

I think you are well past adoption to be honest! There's nothing more I could teach you. Worm^TT(talk) 05:45, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

I'm sure you've not forgotten but the WP:Awaken the Dragon contest starts in 4 and a half hours time. I wish you the best of luck!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:20, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

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Hi Worm That Turned! It's good to see you again. I noticed some edits made to User:Worm That Turned/Teresa Helena Higginson by some other users. I just wanted to ask you if these are legitimate edits with your permission? It looks like a team effort, but I want to be sure before I revert any more and possibly cause disruption. Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:40, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Aww crap! I just now got your message. Sorry man! I didn't mean to cause any frustration or disruption. Please accept my sincere apologies for that. My mistake. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:41, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

No problems. Would probably have been better to check with me before reverting - especially as the history is quite so clear on the matter (I created the subpage myself) - the reverting rather rotted up a new editor, we have more than enough problems with editor retention as it is! Worm^TT(talk) 13:44, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right. I went in the opposite order by reverting first and then asking afterwards. That was my bad. Out of all the vandalism I revert, I still manage to make mistakes sometimes; nobody is perfect. But I try my best! RC and vandal patrolling is a big task that many don't want to do, but hey... someone's gotta do it. Anyways, I'll get out of your hair now. You're probably annoyed with me enough as it is right now; the last thing I need is to make a bureaucrat angry with me. Cheers, and thanks again for letting me know :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:58, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Don't worry, everyone makes mistakes, the important thing is to learn from them and move on. Looks like you've done that... Don't worry, I don't hold grudges! Worm^TT(talk) 14:16, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

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For this week I'm introducing a sort of game to blast away those stale old stubs with a prize at the end of it. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon/Stub Obliteration 2016. Expansion rules don't apply to any articles done through this, all you have to do is ensure every article you submit is minimum 1.5kb readable prose in total and adequately sourced and readable and remove the stub tag and update the project tag on the talk page. It could be that the article is 1.2kb readable prose and you simply add 0.3 kb prose and just quickly smarten up the sources and give a minor copyedit. The goal is reducing the number of stubs we have and making them more consistent, minimum start class entries. Read the top for the rules and more details and add your name to it in the style of the main entries page if you want to participate. It's open to contestants and anybody who is participating in the editathon independently. Potentially a lot of points can be earned from mass basic expansions with this!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:22, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

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You're definitely on the right track with cuisine. Really good work so far. Just more detail and research and it'll easily get there I think. For instance there's a few other Welsh cheeses mentioning in Dairy products.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:39, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Ello Dr. B, I'll see what I can find on Welsh cheeses, but most of what I've read is that Welsh cheese is generally quite harsh, and that there are not many "notable" types (they traded as other brands at points). But I'll make sure I add anything I can find. Worm^TT(talk) 16:33, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

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Looks near enough good enough for GA now.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:53, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

I've got my agents saying they're going to give it a read over this weekend, and I expect it will be on the front page soon too. I'm hoping to put it in for a GA tomorrow :) Worm^TT(talk) 11:11, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

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Just in case you hadn't seen the notice, this starts tomorrow. The most prolific new article creators have the chance to earn a lot of points from this over the weekend!♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:15, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

On 13 April 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Tessie Reynolds, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 1893, 16-year-old Tessie Reynolds (pictured) cycled from Brighton to London and back in a rational outfit? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tessie Reynolds. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Tessie Reynolds), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Well done to you and Staceydolxx on getting this on the front page. It's an interesting article. I was just wondering about the Female Cycling Association, mentioned towards the end. I've never heard of this body and tried to do some research on it, but Google didn't find anything. Do you have the source to hand, as that doesn't seem to be available online? I'd be interested to learn more. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:41, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks very much, it was truly a collaborative piece with User:Nicola giving me that source. There is no further information other than in being the Brighton branch of the Female Cycling Association. I've searched the British Newspaper Archive and couldn't find anything their either. Very strange; I can only presume it was a very small group or maybe the author got it wrong ツStacey (talk) 10:01, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

The reason we might be having a bit of difficulty is that according to "Cycling in the 1890s" [4] there were over 2000 cycling clubs by 1898, 300 in London alone. There was a bit of a boom around that time and that might have reduced the importance of each... Worm^TT(talk) 10:04, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. It was just that the article describes it as a national association rather than a local club, so I would have thought there should at least be some record of it. If there's any way you could help me access the conference paper, that would be appreciated. Cordless Larry (talk) 10:19, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

I have access to the library of the German Sport University Cologne. Next week I will go there and try to find out something :) The history of female cycling is often enough not well researched. --Nicola (talk) 10:20, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

I've sent you an email Cordless Larry ツStacey (talk) 10:23, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Staceydolxx. Sadly it's just a passing mention then - I was hoping that there might be enough there to start an article on this Female Cycling Association. Let us know if you uncover anything, Nicola. Cordless Larry (talk) 10:58, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

One hint: [5] I am sure that it should be writte "a female cycling association", not THE Female Cycling Association because in those days they did not use female but ladies, like Lady Cyclists' Association (LCA)]. Sheila Hanlon is a well-known expert on the history of female cycling. Another hint. David Doughan: Women, Clubs and Associations in Britain. Routledge, 2007, ISBN 978-1-134-20437-3, S. 71 ([6], p. 71, at Google Books). --Nicola (talk) 08:13, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

I know you have made a few nominations for Editor of the week. There is an important discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Editor Retention about possibly finding a way to salvage Single-purpose editors and transforming them into positive WP collaborators in the general mainspace. I'm sure you run in to many of them as you wander around WP. I'm also sure that every now and then one of the SPA editors rises above the crowd and seems worthy of more of your time and effort. Your personal insight and experience would be appreciated. WP:WER has become a relative ghost town (and I may be one of the few ghosts left in town) and User:Robert's idea may be just the boost the Project needs to revitalize. It's an opportunity for the Project to actually do something beyond handing out awards. I think Dennis Brown would like it. Please comment. Buster Seven Talk 14:28, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

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Congratulations, you've won the Prize. You and Stacey will have to decide on Welsh cakes or The Little Welsh Cookbook. If you further improve the restaurant list I could probably weave that book into it too so you have both.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:42, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Dr. B! We'll definitely have the Welsh cakes please, that was the incentive I had to join the competition. If I wanted to make money from Wikipedia, I'm sure there are other ways I could do it, but getting home made cakes in the post is definitely worth putting in some effort! I'm not sure about the restaurant article - I don't know how much better we can get it. Worm^TT(talk) 18:39, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Dont mention it ;-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:18, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

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Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:22, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

What did you do? I'm almost finished loading the 8 hooks. Yoninah (talk) 20:24, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Yoninah, I've not put it live yet, if you've got an 8th, then go ahead. I'm trying to get the image protected at the mo. Worm^TT(talk) 20:30, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. All done. Yoninah (talk) 20:31, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

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Buster7, I've added 7. That should keep you going for a little while. I've got another couple of dozen tucked away if you need more, just give me a nudge. Worm^TT(talk) 10:11, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

My Hero! Buster Seven Talk 12:34, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:53, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks Dr B! Worm^TT(talk) 14:05, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

You'll have to email me your address at the end of the contest and I'll get some Welsh cakes made. The contest is closing tomorrow night, so if you and Stacy feel like creating a bunch of stubs or improving something go for it!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:08, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

I think we are pretty much done, thanks for the offer! We've got our eyes on the core contest next! I'll drop you an email in a bit. We really enjoyed the contest by the way, have you considered doing any more? I expect we'd be willing to help out, depending on the area - perhaps Lancashire next? Worm^TT(talk) 14:11, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

20 Welsh cakes have been made and crammed into a container. Sending first class now, so make sure somebody is in tomorrow to get them otherwise you'll have to go down the sorting office. Make sure you get them asap while they're still fresh!! Thanks to you and Stacy for taking on the challenge!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:17, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

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