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Sorry for the delay, I'm afraid I've been a little busy elsewhere. I've done what I can with the 4th paragraph of the lead; please revert anything you are not happy with. I hope this helps and good luck. --Sarastro1 (talk) 19:39, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi, would you please participate in this discussion? Thanks. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 15:03, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Done? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 09:53, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Almost! Got the "Voice" section and "Philanthropy", which I'm not adding much to, just cleaning and formatting. Look, so I shaved the bio a lot, so its under 170K. I've thought about it, and it really cannot get much lower, I kept it to the important facts on each era, not even delving into personal relationships. So, when you look through it, don't chop out too much, because I honestly think its at a really good place now. Also, leave those damn pictures the size they are :P Lastly, so are you going to do the legacy section? All the vision of love/AIWFCIY stuff I left jumbled there, so it can be all put nicely. I also left a bunch of influeces sources. So how does that sound? :)--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 10:04, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Heads up, I have also invited the opinion of User:Rossrs, he's just brilliant in crafting good prose and technicalities. Tony1's suggestion will also be implemented. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:25, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

God knows where Rossrs have disappeared. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:16, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Nathan. If you listen to "I Miss You", as from the second verse, you will hear that Beyonce appears to be singing with calm vocals in front while in the background she is singing the same thing but in a more desperate way. (i do not know what correctly describes that). Can you please construct a line for me. I do not know how to put that in words. Please. Did you understand what i mean? If not listen to the song. Jivesh • Talk2Me 07:28, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes, i knew about Mariah doing the same thing on "Bye Bye". Nathan, can you give me this in a sentence or two. I want to put it in the article for the song. Jivesh • Talk2Me 07:42, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Nathan. You are GREAT. Jivesh • Talk2Me 07:50, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Nathan, can you please replace the sample for "I Miss You"? I think 1:59 to 2:21 will be the best to demonstrate what i asked you earlier today. Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:55, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank You. Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:32, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Please reduce the sample to 18 seconds. From 1:59 to 2:17. Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:59, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Please wait. Do not do it till i tell you again. Jivesh • Talk2Me 07:00, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Change it now please. Jivesh • Talk2Me 08:55, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Excellent. Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:06, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi, are you still willing to help me? Could you fix the grammar it the My Love: Essential Collection article? I also have another problem: I can't find any profesional reviews of the album, except for Allmusic :( Max24 (talk) 21:00, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Did you find any review of the album? Max24 (talk) 00:58, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi again and thanks! I have a treat for you. The SoundScan sals just have leaked and there are some Mariah and Celine albums :) Top 200 Catalog Albums, Week Ending August 21, 2011:
7 129 100 90 DION*CELINE LET'S TALK ABOUT LOVE 1773 0 1766 9502971
1 - - 173 DION*CELINE MY LOVE-ESSENTIAL COLLECTION 1347 7 1257 494515
4 163 199 192 CAREY*MARIAH DAYDREAM 1298 -4 1346 7596643
Max24 (talk) 20:00, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

No, for a while absolutely not. I'm egsausted :-) I thought it's much more simple. I just wanted to do this article becuse the US re-release is coming and I wanted it to look good. Max24 (talk) 21:37, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Could you upload a picture of Rihanna performing Rude Boy from the Echo Awards and a picture of her performing Rockstar 101 on American Idol by any chance please? I don't know how to upload pictures or what these "non-free" things mean! lol Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 23:05, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

But what makes these images notable and needed. Those won't pass rational unless there is a Britney-Madonna kiss things, you know, iconic stuff. That's why we only use free images for live performances 99% of the time. Now, there are some on Flickr that we can ask for permission, such as this one. I could not find the first one though. I will ask someone to send them a message and let you know if we get any updates :)--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 23:26, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Okay thanks. I think just to pad the articles out a bit, as the current ones are that interesting. I think Rude Boy is more deserving, because of how she had two robots on stage with her. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 23:32, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, the issue is that there is no free equivalent for that performance. And I personally don't think that passes rational. I ask you, is there critical commentary on the robots? Or any sufficient coverage like that?--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 23:35, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Daily Mail, Prophet Blog, MTV, Rap Up and Idolator all reported on the Kids Choice and Echo Awards performances (Both use the same set up), mainly commenting on the robots pinching her bum lol. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 23:51, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Lol. I honestly don't think it will fly Calvin. If you want me to upload it anyway, I can. I just doubt the article will go anywhere near GA or FA with it.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 01:40, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately Nat, all of those RiRi-AI pics are copyvios :( I don't think Fox or American Idol allows people (excluding their photographers) to take photos. Novice7 (talk) 06:48, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Mags :) So Calv, I don't see another alternative :S--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 10:08, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

No problem :) Btw, Nat, when you send me the scans, can you squeeze in "How Will I Know" page too? Novice7 (talk) 10:32, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Great! So, all Whitney pages (except "Exhale", "Greatest Love of All", "Saving All My Love for You", "I Will Always Love You", "I'm Your Baby Tonight) and Toni Braxton ones (+Xtina Aguilera's (lol I know you don't like her) "Genie in a Bottle" if possible) :) I hope they're not too much :) If you can't send any page, please do let me know :) Novice7 (talk) 10:50, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks heaps!!!! Sure. I'm going to edit now, I'll let you know when I'm finished. Btw, refs 190 and 191 are broken. Novice7 (talk) 10:59, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Done! I have the Ultra Plat copy, so I added than in. Does it look okay? Novice7 (talk) 11:15, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

It's fixed now :) Good luck with the FA process! And, thanks in advance for the scans friend :) Novice7 (talk) 11:21, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I will :D Lol, no! Don't retire yet! Novice7 (talk) 11:25, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

No, not yet :( Novice7 (talk) 15:51, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Nathan, I have uploaded reduced samples of File:Mariah_Carey_-_FlyLikeABird2.ogg, File:Mariah_Carey_-_We_Belong_Together.ogg, and File:Mariah_Carey_-_It's_Like_That.ogg :) Novice7 (talk) 07:06, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Ah okay :) I hope you're safe! Btw, SURPRISE!!!! Novice7 (talk) 07:31, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

I think you should wait for the Flickr bot to validate the license and stuff and then you can crop. Btw, after cropping, can you upload a separate version? Also, be careful (lol I'm scared about the Hurricane thingy). Novice7 (talk) 07:36, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Or, I'll ask the Graphics lab to remove the border (like the watermark from GMA FLAB pic?) Novice7 (talk) 07:38, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll ask her or I'll post a request on the Graphics lab of Wikimedia Commons. They'll just erase the border, I think. As for the pic, I actually asked one Flickr user (she had pics of "Clown", "TTR"? (Mimi, a green dress?) etc.) Unfortunately, she didn't reply :( I'll ask her again. Btw, I saw a few days back that Legolas asked some Madge fansite for pics! How cool! I wish MDJ or MConnection or any other MC fansite would give us some pics :( Novice7 (talk) 11:12, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

I'll send an e-mail to MDJ again begging lol. Not only MDJ, but also Whitney fansites :| I sent mail three times to Just-Whitney.com Webmaster (the site is no longer up) asking for pics; no reply. Similarly to Whitney-fan.com and Classicwhitney.com Webmasters :( I just wish they'd give me lots of pics (both MC and WH fansites)... Novice7 (talk) 11:19, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Yeah lol. They could atleast reply saying "NO! We will not give the photographs" :D Novice7 (talk) 11:35, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

The pic's fixed. IIVeaa is great! She fixed the picture :) Novice7 (talk) 13:18, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Hello. I'm proposing a WikiProject Kanye West at WikiProject Council/Proposals/Kanye West. Would you mind taking the time to vote there? Put your name in the Support section if you think he deserves one.

Kanyewest1123 (talk) 09:11, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

I have responded to your comments. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 22:54, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I have replied to some. I'll continue later. Right now, I have homework to do. Also, would mind crossing out the points you feel have been addressed. It's a bit hard for me to identify what has and hasn't been done. Thanks :) -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 00:21, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

I have gone through the most problematic sections and completely cleaned up the refs and formatted them how they should be. Can you see any outstanding formatting formula discrepancies or missing publishers etc. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 12:25, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Looks much better Calv. I'm going to make some additional ref fixes, and then proceed onto the rest of the article later on today ;)--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 12:30, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Okay thanks :). Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 12:38, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Also, if you ever plan on sending this to FA, I suggest you PR first. There I can help you craft perfect refs, otherwise you know what will happen.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 12:49, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I know. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 12:53, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Could you do me a favour an archive this website please? Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 12:16, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

..Mother Monster of Disrespectful fuck! You didn't knew about WP:BRITNEY??? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:29, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

LMAO. Nope, had no freaking idea. I know lol. When Mags told me I was like... oops :S--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 06:58, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Nathan, thank you wholeheartedly for that award. It really feels good to know that one's work does not go by unnoticed. I do not have the appropriate words to describe my happiness (as always. Lol). And Nathan, you are also very kind. Sincerely, you are the kindest of all here on Wikipedia and this comes from the bottom of my heart. Thank you.

P.S I love that picture!!!! Jivesh • Talk2Me 07:56, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

You are most welcome Nathan. An don't worry, i am going nowhere anytime soon. Jivesh • Talk2Me 08:04, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

		The Music Box Award — You are a true Mariah Carey fan
		For your dedication to the Project, articles and everything that is MC! You have set a wonderful example for everyone else to follow. I present you with this award mainly to let you know that whatever you do for the project does not goes by unappreciated. Keep on the good work Nathan. One day, i am sure (infinity%) that you will manage to promote all MC articles to GA status. You are one of the few editors who really work according to the criteria for a GA and not only for the sake of having a GA icon on an article of Mariah Carey for embellishment. Jivesh • Talk2Me 08:11, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Actually you know what happened........... I went to your awards page and saw that i never gave you a barn-star. I was seriously baffled and also thought: "What a shame, i have not given anything to the one who helps me the most here!!!" Lol. Anyway Nathan, seriously, everything i wrote, is the truth and not just for the sake of giving a barn-star. To tell you frankly, what i like the most in you is that you are very patient and always ready to help. I am very lucky to have you as one of my friends here. Jivesh • Talk2Me 08:21, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

I really need to go. We will talk later. Jivesh • Talk2Me 08:22, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Nathan, if you have time, can you please write a synopsis section for me for "1+1" using material from here and here? If you can, please watch the video once to have a better idea. Nathan, i would not have told you to do it. I usually tell CPrice but he is not available and most importantly, i am asking you because i have already nominated the article for GA. There was no news about a possible video. It came out of the blue. I have not even watched the video till now. Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:51, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Nathan, thank you very much. Please do your best. I know you are good at everything you undertake as a task but still, i just wanted to request you to craft an amazing one. Thank you again. Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:55, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

One more link that may help. Jivesh • Talk2Me 11:22, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Nathan, i love it. I love it. I love it. Thanks you wholeheartedly. It is impeccably written. Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:53, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

I assure you that i know Nathan. I mean, i have not watched the video. Someone told on a forum that it was the most indescribable video he/she has ever seen. Lol. Nathan, do you think the lead of the articles is too long. I tried to put minimum details there. Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:52, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

I think i will manage with the lead. Do you think the reception for the video is too long? If yes, please tell me which ones i can remove. You know how i feel when it comes to remove material from the articles i write. It seems like it someone is stabbing me with a knife each time i am removing a line. Lol. Jivesh • Talk2Me 18:04, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Nathan, i hope you are doing well. Can you tell me if the picture here can be bigger? It boils my blood to see so small pictures. Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:38, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

I posted "Could you do me a favour an archive this website please? Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 12:16, 26 August 2011 (UTC)" above but I don't think you saw it? Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 16:06, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Got it!--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 16:28, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for adding it in. I wish Billboard had an archive chart like the UK where it showed like, the top 40 and not just the top 10. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 16:58, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

And I've sent you an e-mail. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 08:28, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

And again Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 17:30, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry you've gotta read my latest one! (I sent two at two different times about different things lol). Can't believe it!!!!! :O Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 18:03, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words back in July. After some thinking, I've decided to stay. Also, good job on expanding MC's articles! You should feel very proud of all the work you've put into them! Crystal Clear x3 11:24, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi there. Whenever you decide to rename a page, please be sure to clean up the links that it breaks. It is especially important to update the fair use rationale for any images used in the moved page, since failing to do so can lead to the images being deleted. Thanks, 28bytes (talk) 14:13, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Nathan! Take a look at this. Do you think it's ready for move to mainspace? Also, can you upload the samples of songs (important ones)? Thanks and hope you like my work (lol). Novice7 (talk) 16:30, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

"BOTH" is good (maybe you can include the guitar solo and MC's belted vocals?) What about "MSG" or "Clown"? Or, "SI" (we're discussing it's musical structure a lot). I'd love to split "BINY", but as you can see, I'm getting kinda busy. But, I'm sure I can squeeze it in too lol. I'll do Chart (:P), lead, BG and we can share MV (I have an amazing source for that. Really amazing source). What do you say? After "Boy", maybe "Loverboy" or some Glitter single? We have atleast one song GA from 1990-2011 except for 2001 (ie, the Glitter era). Also, I'll be doing TGTBAW and NFY (I've started collecting information regarding them). I have pasted CB onto your sandbox. Novice7 (talk) 09:43, 29 August 2011 (UTC)