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LadyofShalott, I was wondering if you would be willing to serve once more as online support for COMM 192 at the University of Southern Indiana as we continue to tackle bios, events and topics that have to do with the safety of journalists. You have done an excellent job in the past of advising students. So far my students have created accounts, enrolled in the course, established user pages, and posted messages on talk pages. They have each received an assignment (this semester they are working on subpages in my account). They are just beginning to format sources and find new sources from reference databases. They will be writing notability statements and filling in their infoboxes. And soon they will be writing their full articles with reliable sources and inline citations. This is the fourth iteration of the project, and every semester I have tried to perfect the process. The contributions of the ambassadors is essential, and if you have any suggestions on how we better utilize your resources and talents, please don't hesitate to let me know. We have 45 students this semester! Take a look at our course page. I hope you can and will join us again! Best, Crtew (talk) 15:44, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi Crtew, I'll be glad to help out with your course. I've begun adding all your students' article draft pages to my watchlist. LadyofShalott

Thank you Lady! I'm excited that you're back on board. It will boost my students' confidence knowing that there is a Wikipedia expert that they can turn to for questions and comments.

I have the articles on a watchlist, too, but there is a new function that I am playing with this time. On our course page, you can "view activity" to see what everybody is doing. The student activity should start increasing as they are starting to add sources, edit infoboxes and write their leads. Do you have any suggestions about how we can improve our relationship? I would like to strengthen that bond. Thank you again, Crtew (talk) 02:54, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

I saw you username-blocked them. You might want to revoke talk page access as well. --Jakob (Scream about the things I've broken) 00:00, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks - someone beat me to it. LadyofShalott 00:56, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

I am always surprised by the stupidity of some people, although I guess at this point I shouldn't be. But this is really dumpf at a level I don't remember seeing before. Good work on getting this idiot so fast. John Carter (talk) 01:33, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Yeah, there are some real charmers around, aren't there? LadyofShalott 01:41, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

LadyofShalott,

Could you assist User:Kjdisching? Kyle left a question on my User talk:Crtew page under the section User talk:Crtew#Quick question, and I'm not sure I understand the problem. Crtew (talk) 15:37, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

On my way to look! LadyofShalott 17:16, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for joining our University's "Adopt a journalist" project as online ambassador!

Crtew (talk) 18:41, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure! I'm looking forward to seeing how these articles develop, and hope we can make some good Wikipedians out of your students. :) Also, I love kittens! LadyofShalott 23:11, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

FYI, at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Long_running_case_of_casting_aspersions I quoted your closing comments of a previous ANI discussion about the same editor -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:02, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I'm most likely going to sit this one one. LadyofShalott 17:28, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

As one of a highly select international group, you are hereby invited to join me in celebrating my 666! (Let the games begin!) Pdfpdf (talk) 11:17, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

I am not sure how to format my article page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crtew/Muhammad_al-Rabou%27e for COM 192 and add citations. Will you have a look at my page and see if I possible did them correctly. I am confused! Thanks!

Mkclements1 (talk) 18:28, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

I have a student who is not having content issues but Wikipedia coding issues. She writes:

I'm quite confused on the directions for writing the nobility statement and the infobox. Can you give me some further detailed instructions. I understand what it is you're looking for, but not where to input the information. Sglammela (talk) 04:18, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

I think its more an issue about how the coding works (e.g., knowing to put info after the equal signs in an infobox), but it would be better if she understood the principle rather than getting bogged down in the minute detail of a particular infobox or such. Thank you for your help, Crtew (talk) 12:31, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

I thought this news item would be interesting for you for multiple reasons. Bgwhite (talk) 06:58, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

It has been over a year since that article has been proposed for deletion (and subsequently deleted). The school has since opened; around twenty teachers have been employed, students have started attending classes and the school building bears a gigantic "ESH" logo. All these claims can be easily verified from a variety of sources. To quote the Wiki policy on undeletion, the subject has gained significantly more notoriety since May 2012. Based on these grounds, I believe that the article titled European School of the Hague needs to be recreated autonomously. Due to the fact that you were the original Wiki administrator who proposed the deletion, I would like to know your opinion about recreating the article. Thank you,

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Hi I am trying to mark a spot on my map for my wiki project for Dr. Tew. I is not working and I was wondering if you could help me. My page is User:Crtew/Ahmed Ismail Hassan. Please help me! :I — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dkmarshall (talk • contribs) 03:36, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

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Hi LadyofShalott, the page I am trying to upload on Wikipedia was previously rejected and asked for verification that Dressipi doesn't already exist but was declined twice before. My user is: Mayyinlee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Dressipi

I hope you an help me out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayyinlee (talk • contribs) 11:58, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi! I really wanted to send you a message about the meet-up first, but procrastination grabbed my by the throat B^(

The article in question popped up on my watch list because I had made some category changes after the American author debacle. It has major problems, I discovered but the pop-up came from the contributions today (25NOV13) by a newly register user with the user name JannaMcMahan, identical with the subject of the biography. I got hooked on trying to improve the article form and then felt the need to create a user page welcoming the new editor and explaining the changes I had made. And pointing out the problems with the user name (wrong if it creates an association that does not exist while at the same time not proof of identity.

I would appreciate if you could spare the time to look at my posts at

• User talk:JannaMcMahan
• Talk:Janna McMahan.

I feel pretty confident that my edits to the actual biographical article did no harm (I did not add content or cites) but did not really accomplish the hard work needed to rescue this orphaned biography. My two talk page posts pretty much explain my edits so I haven't provided diffs; if you need them, just a two word reply and I'll provide. Thanks! - Neonorange (talk) 04:51, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

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Did you ever get the scan? I have no phone (sent to Apple for repair/replacement) so there will be few updates this week, if any. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 22:30, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes I did! Thanks! I still need to take a shot or two at the library and post. LadyofShalott 18:22, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

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Hi LadyofShalott, Wishing you a very Happy and Wonderful Merry Christmas! Hope you are having a great time with family and friends :-) Best wishes. ~TheGeneralUser (talk) 18:31, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, TGU! I hope you had a merry Christmas as well!! LadyofShalott 16:42, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Have a great new year!

Isn't there a local event coming up? Anything I can do to help? - Neonorange (talk) 05:29, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi. I notice you did some work recently on this article in a brave attempt to clean it up, but I wonder if it crossed you mind that it might not be notable. I haven't tagged it for anything (yet), but a review of the sources and a further search for more comes up with either dead links (404), web pages that don't address the subject at all, routine listings of exhibitions (mostly co-exhibitors), and other exhibition notices, all of which are fleeting mentions of the subject only and lack depth of coverage. Thoughts? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:41, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I think it's quite possible she doesn't meet our notability standards, but didn't feel like digging to try to demonstrate it one way or the other. Actually, it was already tagged by another editor for notability, and I saw a post on the tagger's talk page demanding to know why she'd done that - that's what got my attention in the first place. If you want to retag it, I've no problem with that! LadyofShalott 04:47, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Hey Lady, after this edit the image disappeared--for me at least. Strange, no? Drmies (talk) 18:26, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Weird! Now I can't see it either. I don't understand why my category edit should have affected the image, but I'll self-revert to see if that fixed it. LadyofShalott 18:29, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

And it did! WTH??? Mandarax, Bgwhite, any ideas? LadyofShalott 18:31, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Drmies, I've manually removed the cat, and the image still shows for me. Can you see it now? LadyofShalott 18:33, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

I see it now, yes, even in the diff I gave above. Strange. Drmies (talk) 18:38, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Very. This seems to be my couple days for WP weirdness. LadyofShalott 18:40, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

In that case, I'll go home, have lunch, and see if a nap is possible. Much weird love, Drmies (talk) 19:27, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

@Drmies: "They" are doing updates to Mediawiki's code today. My screen currently has big fonts. bits.wikimedia.org is also running slow. They also updated "Typography refresh" under beta features. The refresh has a bug where it is condensing content to the left 2/3rds of the screen. Drmies' photo of his child was also leaked today. Bgwhite (talk) 19:55, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

We're not all like that, Bg. But hey, when we go to a National Championship, we win. Yes, I saw that things were going slowly or not at all, a half an hour ago, but I must have missed the memo. Drmies (talk) 20:10, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

That picture is really, really disturbing. LadyofShalott 20:58, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

@Drmies:, @Mandarax: So, the squishing content to the left-hand side of the screen *is* intentional. They want the maximum screen width to be 715px for better reading. To me this utter and complete crap. Can't people adjust their web browser's width? A bug report was opened in which it was closed as not a bug, but it had WMF people insulting people complaining. As most tables we created to be larger than 715 (who screen smaller than 800?), pages with tables look wonderful. Bgwhite (talk) 00:35, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

• For the onlookers, discussion is here. I don't see much insult there, Bg, but maybe that's just me. But I don't understand: do only people who "use" beta see this? WTF is "beta" in the first place? Is that a disaster that will strike when I click "beta" on the top of my screen, something I've been too afraid to do? Drmies (talk) 00:53, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Of those two images, the lower one looks funny to me. Anyway, I don't understand how all this explains what happened to the picture in my edit today - the image was gone, not squished, gone, with an empty error-type box where it should have been. LadyofShalott 02:23, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
    • The insults were on the bug reports. Bgwhite (talk) 08:49, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for reverting the malicious edits on the Stone Arch Bridge (Minneapolis) page, and thank you also for blocking the guy who did the edits, tweedlefuckheadray.lowry. If you look at the history of the page, this character has attacked the page on dozens of occasions through various names and accounts. His sole purpose is to personally insult me. Who am I? Nobody. I teach school in a small town. However, I wrote an article for Minnesota History Magazine back in the 1980s on the history of the Stone Arch Bridge, and later made a documentary film for Minneapolis Public Television. All of the history you find on the bridge is based upon my work, so some time ago I linked my film (on Youtube) and a PDF of my original article (from my own website) to the Stone Arch Bridge (Minneapolis) Wikipedia page. I thought this was appropriate. However, someone immediately started attacking me personally through the page. The only thing I can figure is that it is an angry former student. From your perspective, and I see you have done a ton of work to keep Wikipedia on the up-and-up, should I just delete any reference to myself and my work from this page? I'm a school teacher so I have a pretty thick skin, but I get tired of constantly checking this page and this guy's malicious edits. I have made a lot of contributions to Wikipedia, and this is the only page where this type of thing has occured. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Ray lowry Ray Lowry 15:21, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Ray, thanks for your work and your post. I just deleted the Facebook link (I don't know if that was yours or not). At this point, I'd leave your links, which seem reasonable at a first pass. I suggest you go do to the article talk page, declare your interest, and let discussion there determine the fate of the links. I'll add the page to my watchlist, but if further abusive editing occurs that I or another editor doesn't spot right off, feel free to ping me to take a look. LadyofShalott 22:04, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi LadyofShalott. I'm a PhD student at the University of Washington's Information School, and I'm working on a interview-based study about women and Wikipedia. I have RCom approval, and you can find my project page here. I'd love to chat with you if you've time. I'm looking for a diversity of voices and experiences in my research. --Mssemantics (talk) 21:38, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Mssemantics, your project looks interesting, and, yes, I'd be glad to help. LadyofShalott 00:45, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks LadyofShalott! I'd be happy to send you a consent form via email. After you review it, if you'd still like to proceed, we can schedule a time to chat via Google Hangout, Skype, or phone (your preference). You can find my email address at the bottom of my project page.--Mssemantics (talk) 20:03, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

You've got mail. LadyofShalott 00:32, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! I've replied via email. --Mssemantics (talk) 22:41, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

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Hi LadyofShalotte, this is Colton Cosmic. Without warning or explanation I was permanently blocked for socking by Timotheus Canens in May 2012, but I never did it. There's never been any evidence of it. I am trying to get an administrator to unblock me, or just to take my part in the case. I came to you because I chanced across your comment in WP:AN/ANI. We don't have many common interests judging by your userpage but I do at least also like the Tolkien books and movies. I thought it was awful though in Desolation of Smaug that Legolas was outbrawling the hardened Orc chieftain. I mean Legolas is supposed to be a slender 3/4 height archer. He shouldn't be able to wrestle with some huge Orc. As well that dragon Smaug sure was a chatty dragon. I don't remember that from the book. Dwarfs were like "shut up already."

I had a single prior account that I edited with for five or six years, never had a problem. Never was warned, never was sanctioned or blocked or banned. Nearly always edited content. Didn't even know what drama board or Arbcom were. I switched for online privacy reasons ([1], sound like a sock?) to Colton Cosmic, never going back. When Timotheus finally partially explained his block of me after like ten months, he cast my acknowledgement of a prior account as an *alternate* account under WP:SOCK. Timotheus is well aware though of the difference between a prior account and an alternate account. I now drive I think the eighth automobile I have owned, but I do not have eight "alternate" automobiles. I have had various bank accounts in the past, starting with a savings account when I guess I was six. These are not my "alternate" accounts.

I am not an "abusive" Wikipedia editor. I originally authored maybe seven articles in my prior account and greatly contributed to many more. Most of those are of course the #1 Google hit on the subject. As Colton Cosmic, in the few short weeks before I was blocked, I at least authored Rain City Superhero Movement which went on to be twice directly linked by Slate.com, and I think was quoted by Robin Meade on Morning Express on HLN. I initiated a WP:3O third opinion community process and politely abided the result, though it went against my heartfelt position. Etc. Anyone who casts me as troll or troublemaker either doesn't know me or is trying to needle me. It is true though that I slipped on civility. I read Youreallycan plaintively beseech Nomoskedasticity to just leave him alone after two years of wikihounding. Nomo. sarcastically called him "darling" and refused. The next day or so, I spot Nomo. arguing for Youreallycan to be banned at WP:AN/ANI. I slipped and called Nomo. a "provocateur" and questioned whether Nomo., an extreme drama board regular, had ever actually contributed productively to the encyclopedia. This was uncivil of me and I shouldn't have done it, but it is not grounds for a permanent block. When I self-examined myself as an editor sometime later, I realized my civility was my main feeling, and I pledged to do better.

This gets long, but I'm trying to tell you what you need to know to understand me, and understand what happened. If you see fit to look into my case, do not accept what people say about me without looking yourself to facts to support it. Please do not tell me "go away for six months and then use WP:OFFER." Other administrators like Beeblebrox have said they will fight WP:OFFER in my case, and yet more administrators say no-way-no-how *ever* until I disclose my prior account. I have already been blocked long enough for something I didn't do. What else? Nihonjoe researched and unblocked me [2] when I approached him much as I'm approaching you. WP:AN/ANI kidnapped his unblock, saying he didn't discuss it enough. You could conceivably avoid that trap if you talked it up at my page. Please unblock me merely at my page if you do so, that I myself may answer questions and defend myself and so forth. I was also subjected to a vote-him-off-the-island proceeding by WP:AN/ANI in which a bunch of people criticized me but there wasn't really any framework there. Arbcom declined my appeal without explanation ("hand over your prior account" is not explanation). The key thing though is that I've never actually been blocked by Arbcom or WP:AN/ANI (if it is authorized to do that as an entity), alll they did was *decline to unblock*. Therefore, I say, WP:UNBLOCK gives you or any other Wikipedia administrator authority to examine, discuss, and unblock me at your discretion. Thanks for reading all this. Colton Cosmic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.236.0.238 (talk • contribs)

(talk page stalker) You're probably not interested in my opinion, Colton, and that's fine; I know that Lady is not going to be swung by my opinion either way, so I wouldn't worry about that. The thing of it for me is that, if you were just using IP addresses to request unblocks, that'd be one thing. I mean, it isn't exactly a good thing, and it's not at all likely to lead to an unblock, but it'd be understandable. What I think is really a problem is that, since your block, you've used IP addresses for things other than requesting a review of your block. I mean, the example that rings particularly true for me is this one, where you write an unblock request for another user (one who was actually sitebanned as a consequence of violating conditions that he agreed to, so unblock requests of any kind were pointless), and restored meaningless gravedancing that had been reverted into the bargain. Third-party unblock requests are not acceptable in the best of circumstances, and restoring gravedancing like that is even worse; the fact that you would do that from an IP address while your account is blocked makes it worse yet, as it obviates the at least plausible reason that you're protesting your own block. This kind of thing suggests to me, at least, that your attitude is that you can do whatever you want and screw the rules, which, WP:IAR notwithstanding, is not the case. Perhaps that's why people keep proposing that you try the standard offer; it would demonstrate that you accept that you're subject to the rules, just like everyone else. I know that sounds unfair to you, and to be honest, I haven't looked at your original block enough to know whether it was justified or not. But the point is that your original block is almost irrelevant now; your behavior since the block may be enough to justify declining an unblock.

In a nutshell: you may (or may not, I don't know) have had a case when you started, but you've kept shooting yourself in the foot since then, such that it no longer matters. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 21:32, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

I have not had time to look into this other than reading your initial post here and WK's comments. I will look some more later when I do have time. My initial thought though is that you are probably going to have to disclose - at least to ArbCom - your prior account. More than that I can't say yet, except that I suspect WK's instincts are correct. LadyofShalott 21:56, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Jimbo reviewed my prior account and knows that it is free of warns, blocks, sanctions, and bans. Colton Cosmic.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.236.0.238 (talk • contribs)

Then why aren't you appealing to him? I do not have access to Jimbo's knowledge. Also, please sign using four tildes. LadyofShalott 03:53, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

I've gotten through WK's diff and about 1/3 of Colton Cosmic's talk page. Does Jimbo know the relationship between your Colton Cosmic account and your prior one? If not, would you be willing to tell me or any other admin the name of your prior account? LadyofShalott 04:07, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Lady. I did appeal to Jimbo. Yes, he knows that both accounts belonged to me. He was prompt, even eager, in replying to my emails until I told him the prior account, after that it seemed he had what he wanted and he became difficult to reach. He did not specifically agree to unblock me if the account proved free of blocks, bans, and sanctions, but he definitely agreed, in general terms, to treat my appeal favorably if so. Which he reneged on. You don't have to have access to Jimbo's knowledge, my purpose was to assure you that an established individual had reviewed the account, and that I wasn't formerly some heinous banned sanctionee (which is what Silktork, Mastcell, and others said). Will I tell you or another admin my prior account? I didn't even want to tell Jimbo, but I thought "hey, that's Jimbo Wales." Celebrity-struck in other words.

I'm real grateful to you for researching my case. In my opinion, you shouldn't have to slog through all that for any blocked user. You should be able to go 1) Okay, what's he or she blocked for, and 2) Where is the evidence. In my case that concept falls apart at (2) but there's surely plenty of suspicion to glue it together, you must be noticing that as you read. Now, to address what Writ Keeper said. Yes, there have been scattered instances where I IP block-evaded for other than seeking my own unblock. I do not think this means my attitude is "screw the rules I can do whatever I want." It's not done casually. In the diff Writ provided I had detected Youreallycan getting pushed around by Bwilkins, and yes I submitted the unblock request. Writ says third-party unblock requests are always unacceptable, but there is no such policy that says that. Dennis Brown, who swam around in such matters, said IIRC "yes third party unblock requests are okay, but they're handled case by case." The "gravedancing" by Tao2911 Writ refers to was a small fraction of my edit which sought the unblock. I pointed out that Floquenbeam should've commented his deleting Tao2911. I think part of the reason I did that had to do with the larger context of the discussion and talkpage block at the time, which is not perfectly visible in Writ's diff. We're getting too deep in the weeds on this, there would be twenty diffs like this to micro-analyze if our time weren't more productively spent.

Lady, be aware that if you unblock me at my talkpage (which I want you to do) to further the dialogue on your potentially unblocking me, it's been watchlisted by literally thirty-five people, I think almost entirely WP:AN/ANI regulars. It will risk quickly resembling an ANI free-for-all. I can take it, but I urge you to keep your eyes on the ball, which is "did I do what I'm blocked for, and was my block done in accordance with policy?" Writ Keeper says he doesn't know and besides that is a non-issue by now. To make an analogy he is saying that escaping prison after murder conviction makes the fugitive's guilt or innocence irrelevant, he or she should now be imprisoned for the act of escaping itself. If that is also your belief, I won't get far with you. What else? You could open an RFC/U on me to broaden the discussion. I would like to avoid the WP:AN/ANI environment, which I think is an awful environment. RFC/U should draw a different kind of commenter. In signing my posts, I don't like using the four tildes because it does the stalker-friendly IP hotlinking to Geolocate and TraceUserIP and so forth. I accept that my IP shows up in the page history, but I don't want to make it even easier for snoopy sniffers to poke around with it. I will see about typing the date/time on there though. Thank you again, and please don't make any hasty final judgement on me without allowing me to address your concerns. Colton Cosmic. 16 January 2014, 12:15 UTC.

Well, escaping from prison is a crime, and (I am not a lawyer but) I'm reasonably sure you can still get put back into prison for it, even if your original conviction is overturned. The legal way to get a conviction overturned is to stay in prison and work the appeal system to actually get the conviction overturned, not to simply escape prison. The ends don't justify the means. Perhaps that's more of the issue with your apparent point of view, rather than strictly "screw the rules". Also, while Dennis may have said that third-party unblocks are case-by-case, I'm not sure there are many people who would seriously consider a third-party unblock request, as to unblock, one needs to know that the problems won't reoccur, and a third party can't make any assurances of that; only the person who was blocked can. Moreover, that doesn't change the fact that YRC was banned, not blocked, and that even if third-party unblocks were a thing, one coming from a person who is evading their own block is surely not going to fly. As for the rest, even if it was a small percentage of your post--which doesn't make it any less relevant--the point is that, at least in that one case, you were essentially disrupting Wikipedia (by restoring gravedancing that was rightfully reverted) to make a point (about what looks to you like admin abuse). It wasn't admin abuse to delete that comment (and in fact, Floq never did; I did), it should've been reverted, with or without a comment (and in fact, I left appropriate comments on the user's talk page when I did so). So, while I suppose you may be right about not having an attitude of "screw the rules", there still seems to me to be a trend of "the ends justify the means" and also just general hastiness, and neither of those things are what one wants to see in someone who is to be unblocked. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 17:57, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Writ, okay, I remember it a little better now. Now you're saying in bright lights that I violated WP:POINT. I looked at that guideline and it doesn't seem to me to apply to anything I did. You're also throwing a WP:DISRUPT in there which doesn't seem to me to apply to anything I did. At the time you suggested I violated WP:VANDAL which is very insulting and doesn't seem to me to apply to anything I did. It wasn't the point of my edit, only a small fraction of it like I said. Tao2911's position was that his criticism of Youreallycan counterpointed the praise at the page. Was it truly "gravedancing?" He or she did say "bullying and obnoxious," but I didn't take it as a "ha ha you got blocked" statement. If you're concerned about Youreallycan's feelings, he emailed me after (for the first time) and asked me to leave the unblock request question in peace, but he said that I was right that I wasn't doing any gravedancing or vandalism. If you consider Youreallycan a friend (inasmuch as editors bumping friendily into each other now and then are "friends") then you and I have that in common. I did say your uncommented deletion of Tao2911 was "abusive in the context," and you are right to object to my use of that word, but I really didn't mean anything awful by it. I just felt a bit frustrated from all the reverting and what was happening to Youreallycan and, yes, I think that people should comment their edits and not just click the "revert" button. I am sorry I uttered the word "abuse" as to your revert though. I am trying to win over LadyofShalotte as to unblocking me, but if I can get you in my corner too, I would be very grateful and try doubly to be exemplary in my edits thereafter. Colton Cosmic. 16 January 2014, 19:04 UTC.

To be honest, I'm not really bothered by the fact that you called what I did abusive, really; I'm not so attached to the rightness of my edits that I would resent anyone questioning them (even if I think that calling them "abusive" was a bit of a stretch). So, no worries there. What bothers me, though, is that you restored it. Because yes, it was gravedancing. Tao's section header was "About time", and closed out the comment with "thank goodness"; if that doesn't mean the same thing as "ha ha you got blocked", then I don't know what does. To be honest, even if he did mean it as a counterbalance, well, YRC was banned; the time where counterbalancing praise might have helped had passed. The only thing it would've accomplished was to make him feel worse. (And indeed, as I told you at the time, YRC actually did email me to thank me for removing those kinds of things from his talk page.)

If you thought my lack of comment in the reversion was a problem, or even abusive, that's fine, you're allowed to think that, and you wouldn't be the only one. I would say in passing that I'm not sure a large part of the community agrees with you, but that's not super-relevant. But the way to address that is by talking to me, not by undoing the revert. And yes, I would consider restoring something that is clearly (at least to me) gravedancing disruptive. Though I will say that it's certainly not vandalism; I'm not sure where I said that you were vandalizing, but if I had, my apologies, and I'd be happy to retract it. (Edit: Ah, you probably mean in the rationale for the page protection here. That's one of the canned protection summaries; it wasn't meant to refer to you specifically.) Not vandalism, but still disruptive (the two aren't always one and the same), and it seems to me that your objection was not to the reversion itself but to the lack of comment for it. So, you undid the reversion (apparently) as a protest against the lack of comment; that's what I mean by "proving a point". You restored a comment not because you felt that it should remain, but because you didn't like the way it had been reverted. (At least that's what your reasoning appeared to be at the time.) That kind of thing--making edits you wouldn't normally make as a protest against an unrelated rule--is what WP:POINT talks about, which is why I quoted it.

Now, as far as recruiting me, well, I've said in the past (on the Nihonjoe ANI thread) that, assuming you're correct about the reason--or lack thereof--for your original block, I don't really see the harm in unblocking you (perhaps in much the same way that, were an escaped prisoner's original conviction be overturned, a prosecutor might choose not to press charges for the crime of escaping prison). But there are a few problems. One, I still don't entirely understand what went on with regard to your original block; I'm sure you'll understand that I can't take your account at face value (just as I might not take T. Canens's version at face value, either). That's not a slight against your trustworthiness; it's just that it's a human tendency to remember things the way we want to remember them, not as they actually happened. Two, as I've mentioned, the behavior that I've seen since then have started to overshadow the original block regardless of whether it had merits or not. Not that that's an absolute judgement against you from me, but it doesn't bode well, and I'd imagine that I wouldn't be the only one to feel that way. Certainly, your promising to change and be doubly exemplary in edits going forward helps with that; that's the kind of thing that we do want to see from people requesting an unblock. (Again, what I think people who suggest the standard offer are looking for is that abiding by its terms will provide solid evidence to support that promise.) Third, and I say this with a bit of regret, since a consensus of people in the Nihonjoe ANI thread agreed that you should remain blocked, one usually needs a similar consensus to unblock.

Now, all that said: what I can say that I do support is the lifting of your talk page revocation, for you to have another (legitimate) means of appealing the block. I'd take you at your word that you'll behave there, and after all, there's not much damage that can be done on your talk page. I don't know if anything good will come of it; I'd definitely advise you to leave the past in the past, as one might say, try to lighten up on the admin abuse angle at least a little, and focus more on assuring people that your editing will be unproblematic going forward. Because at some point, it doesn't really matter how we got here; what matters is that we are here, and what we'll do going forward. You see what I mean? Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:02, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

(Woof, I didn't realize how long that was. Sorry for dumping War and Peace on your talk page, Lady.) Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:06, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Eesh, we have now flooded the kind Lady's talkpage. I'm going to go haiku length from here on. Yes, I see what you mean, Writ, but I don't agree on all counts. WP:AN/ANI didn't "agree that I should stay blocked," it only "declined to unblock," and that not even by consensus. This is not a semantic distinction, it is a genuine one. I plan to keep trying to convince Lady, but I'd tell you don't just support the lifting of my talk page revocation, go ahead and do it. You can monitor it after that and reblock at your discretion w/o objection by me, no matter what. Colton Cosmic. 16 January 2014, 20:20 UTC.

Heh, I know that's an option, but if I do it on my own initiative, it'd likely be overturned quickly, which will leave none of us any better off. Patience. ;) (I also am not planning on being particularly available over the next 24 hours, which would not be good for such a thing.) I'll look into it, though, at least. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:42, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Note: Colton Cosmic has been canvassing administrators, one at time, for a long time. The user visited my talk page on 9 November 2013: diff. --Orlady (talk) 23:40, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

It is accurate that I have sought help from quite a few administrators, one at a time, pretty much, like Orlady says. I do not think that is "canvassing" in the plain English sense of the word, nor do I think it is WP:CANVAS guideline. I do not think there is anything wrong with it if I am not spamming them or being rude to them, which I'm not. Colton Cosmic. 17 January 2014, 12:40 UTC.

OK I just went to read some more of your talk page and saw how at least recently, this is not even one-by-one talking to administrators. I think Moe Epsilon's advice to you is what you need to heed, as well as that given by Writ Keeper above. LadyofShalott 19:16, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

One thing I did miss was that his e-mail was disabled, and I have a feeling I know exactly why after seeing this talk page as well. I could support his talk page being reinstated for editing, so that he could write a formal unblock request in the future. Given the amount of IP editing he has done lately to evade the block though, he wouldn't get an unblock any sooner than a year from know (from my best estimates). Regards, — Moe Epsilon 19:27, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

(Edit conflict w. Moe, I will respond to him in a moment.) Hi Lady, I am not going keep trying to convince you, but you and Moe Epsilon are factually mistaken in key respects. I think it's because you each look to what others have said about me, rather than to the record, and that you try to cram my situation into the "admit wrongdoing and come back after a long (one year!) wikibreak" pre-shaped mold where it doesn't fit at all. 1) I have so talked to administrators one-by-one. The reason Tommyboy and Moe Epsilon replied at about the same time is because Tommyboy was silent (to me) for ten or eleven days and I gave up and went on, one-by-one, to Moe, who quickly responded. 2) Moe is factually incorrect that my case involved Arbcom sanctions, I was blocked by an administrator. 3) Moe is factually incorrect that I can enable my own email, it was stealth-blocked by Beeblebrox and Spartaz. In farewell, I am not going to get frustrated about your answer, and I thank you for reading as much as you did, but I get the feeling you believe me that I didn't sock, and so I'm mystified that you recommend I accept a 30-month block for it, with no guarantee at all of success at that time, any more than this moment. Colton Cosmic. 18 January, 2014, 19:50 UTC.

Moe (by the way I responded you a week or whatever ago at your talkpage, but it was reverted w/o comment by Mrstradivarius, so check the history if you haven't). It is wrong of you to say that my email should be blocked because the comments on this talkpage are lengthy. I try to keep it tight but there are things you can't explain in thirty or forty words. Plus, a lot of it is Writ Keeper, bless him. I responded to the points he made, again couldn't be done in thirty or forty words. Plus, I believe I have been very polite. I edited via IP like I said because I believe I have no other genuine avenue of appeal. And, not disrespectfully, your opinion that my IP-based block evasion warrants a one-year moratorium on any appeal being considered is nothing more than that, your opinion. Others believe it means I must never be unblocked. Colton Cosmic. 18 January, 2014, 20:07 UTC.

For the record, I suggested your e-mail remain blocked off because of your continued IP evasion to ask administrators one by one for an appeal, not because of the length of your posts. I feel like if e-mail was enabled, you would spam administrators until you got one that replied to you, and you are doing the same thing by block evading right now. You have been polite, but I think you aren't doing yourself any favors by continuing to evade your block, whether you feel the block was justified or not. The fact that poking administrators like you are is your last avenue should tell you how unwanted your continued appeals are. You maintaining that you didn't sock, while continuing to sock by changing IP addresses baffles me. If someone wanted to prove they were not guilty of blackmail, the obvious thing to do is to not blackmail them into believing you, which is the equivalent of you are doing.

I have no say how long you stay blocked, if your talk page access is restored or whether you stay or go, so all I can offer you is my opinion. My opinion is that editors have done less IP evading than you have, taken a half year off from editing all together, came back and were still declined an unblock. At this point, I honestly feel like you have no realistic shot at being unblocked at all, if you don't stop IP block evading (but that is just my opinion). I feel like a year off editing entirely is enough time for you to do your image some good, and an appeal to the Arbitration Committee about your ban may result in at least your talk page being restored to you. Having said that, an unblock request would still need to be done, and I don't know if there is any administrator willing to unblock you. If no administrator wants to unblock you, you are de facto banned. I know this doesn't leave you anywhere closer to where you want to be, by taking time off and leaving Wikipedia, but honestly it does some good. All you're doing now is annoying the nicest administrators who may of otherwise supported you. Regards, — Moe Epsilon 20:57, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Moe, everyone knows what a sockpuppet is. It's an undisclosed alternate account used for a deceptive purpose. My fully-disclosed IP block evasion is no more socking than you'd be doing if you edited via IP while logged out accidentally or if you sought help because you forgot your password. Socking is socking, block evading is block evading. I've found most here who conflate the two do so quite deliberately, and in the course of strengthening their criticism, or their needling. Your likening my block evasion to blackmail is quite silly, and a bit insulting. I'll accept that I'm "annoying" you only, and believe it about Lady and Writ when they tell me so. Colton Cosmic. 18 January, 2014, 22:02 UTC. PS: LadyofShalotte, I'm ready to stop commenting here, respecting your statement, but setting the record straight on the important matter of whether fully-disclosed IP block evasion is "socking." If someone wants to move the conversation, I don't mind if my talkpage gets flooded, if someone would unblock me there, as both Moe and Writ have now said they're in favor of.

Colton Cosmic, while block evading, also used an edit summary on Jimbo's page to try to link me with a highly questionable "outing" piece on Wikipediocracy's home page that included various defamatory claims. (Other Wikipediocracy homeboys have been repeating the same at Philippe's page recently, which Philippe rightly revdel'd.) I've not made any big complaints about that, but it certainly doesn't fit into the claimed behaviour of only block evading to ask for consideration of an unblock. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:09, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

And now the part where I'm obliged to simultaneously play ping pong at different tables against multiple opponents. I have not claimed that I've block-evaded only to ask for consideration of an unblock, only that that is the vast bulk of it. I'll neither dispute nor agree Demiurge1000 on this further at Lady's talkpage, if he likes he can bring it up at mine. Colton Cosmic. 18 January, 2014, 22:54 UTC.

LadyofShalott, I'm starting up another round of guiding students through Wikipedia. Would you be able to lend me your expertise again this semester? The signup page is Education_Program:University_of_Southern_Indiana/COMM_192:_Intro_to_Mass_Communication_(Spring_2014). A few more students are going to enroll (this is the first week), but the start up process is smoother than in the past and many students have created their accounts, enrolled, completed the tutorial, edited their pages, and messaged me. Thank you for all your support, Crtew (talk) 15:37, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

How do I lock my userpage... some idiots I work with keep hacking into it I discover--Stephencdickson (talk) 08:53, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

I have semi-protected your page indefinitely. LadyofShalott 02:50, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I agree with you by the way. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 00:31, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I saw your edit summary. I went back to remove the comedy and country cats, but you'd already done so. :) LadyofShalott 00:36, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

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I've been wondering what the gender neutral word between a giant and giantess is; I think if one can't be found these categories should be separate. Normally the gender with the most entries would be the one to get the name; which is this case would be giantesses. CensoredScribe (talk) 23:46, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

CensoredScribe, stop WP:FORUMSHOPPING.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 23:50, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Are you serious? Look, I'm all for replacing non-gender neutral terms with gender neutral ones when needed. Giant is gender neutral though. LadyofShalott 18:14, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi! Could you maybe help with this DYK: Template:Did you know nominations/Kanako Momota? Can anything be done with the article? Can it be rewritten somehow? (I remember you helped with Momoiro Clover Z.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 16:15, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, I did some copyediting. I know you are going for an expansion DYK, but wordiness for the sake of making it longer is not good writing. LadyofShalott 18:59, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

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This article is no longer being contested for speedy deletion but it needs a lot of work; a blog isn't a reliable source of information. I thought you might be interested in proving whether the first super hero is her instead of Superman; they are both remarkably similar; more so than Superman and Wonderman whose similarities resulted in a lawsuit. And no...I'm not suggesting the category be renamed super heroines just because the first super was female; that thing over giants was pretty silly. CensoredScribe (talk) 16:23, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

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Isn't this akin to giving kids out-of-school suspension for truancy, Drmies? LadyofShalott 18:01, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

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Lucky you, LoS, that I'm requesting your assistance at Spinster, my thinking being that you're a member of the Wiki Project for Women's History, the article is rated as high importance, and not least, you're a wise contributor. There is, perhaps, a discussion to be had as to whether recent scholarship regarding the word can be characterized as engendering 'controversy' or 'debate', but what's going on isn't a discussion, and the version that's now in place includes an unfortunate lede. I've wasted too much time there, and if you don't want to get sucked in--which I'd well understand--perhaps you could bring this to the attention of other good editors. Thanks in advance, JNW (talk) 12:36, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

No promises, but I'll take a look! LadyofShalott 16:15, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for looking at the article. The edit lock seems to be off, and the same person using IP addresses made a change immediately. If you have time, I wondered if you could look at the version that seemed to offend that person. This is the link of the edit showing what changed https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spinster&diff=612863151&oldid=612854341 I hope that works to get you directly to what was repeatedly deleted for no direct reason given. Is any of it worth saving? At the time of the edit lock, the text had been removed at least twice, including links & quotes to discussion of current reactions to use of the word, and if the label of being feminist makes it harder to get married (or not be a spinster). --Prairieplant (talk) 06:49, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

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I was surprised that this didn't exist yet. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 18:10, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Well thank you for doing it! It is certainly a needed article on a notable topic. LadyofShalott 16:48, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

I believe there is a DYK in there somewhere. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 18:41, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

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Hello I've done some work on this article and wonder if you could determine if the subject is notable or not and remove the notability tag if you think she makes the grade. Castlemate (talk) 09:58, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello again
Likewise, I've done some work on this article and wonder if you could determine if the subject is notable or not and remove the notability tag if you think she makes the grade. In the last 48 hours I placed Elaine Cassidy and Eve Dutton in The Meriden School article as notable ex-students. It has caused a lot of controversy and I hope this will settle down. The stubs that were created by another editor were immediately tagged for notability but I believe that with the work I have done on them they will now be considered notable. I would appreciate you opinion on theses articles. Thanks Castlemate (talk) 15:51, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

It really would be better to ask the person who placed the tags to reevaluate. If you get no response after a couple days, then I'll be glad to look. LadyofShalott 19:14, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to have bothered you. Castlemate (talk) 00:14, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Can you move AFSP (disambiguation) to AFSP to follow conventions when there is no primary topic? Thanks, Wbm1058 (talk) 18:20, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Done. Jenks24 (talk) 18:36, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Jenks. I'm not sure why the second page was created in the first place. LadyofShalott 19:13, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you, Gerda! It is a lovely honor to get one of your precious recognitions. LadyofShalott 00:15, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

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I am interested, thanks! LadyofShalott 00:00, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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I wanted to say howdy. ;-) Hope you've been well. APK whisper in my ear 01:13, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Hey, APK! It's good to hear from you! I'm doing well. How about you??? LadyofShalott 14:13, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Fine and dandy. My hubby and I moved to the country, so that's been a big adjustment! (I miss D.C. though) I'm getting accustomed to the new (to me) features on WP and Commons. I find it hilarious people can "thank" you on Commons. That's a neat feature. APK whisper in my ear 17:01, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Yep, you can do that here, too. I'm glad you are back editing!! Your new home sounds great, and congratulations! LadyofShalott 18:15, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

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Hello, I found you listed on the list of admins who will consider userfying deleted articles. Can you please copy these to my userspace so that I can work on expanding them?

1. Shiwe Nongwanya
2. Andile Dlamini
3. Simphiwe Dludlu
4. Mamello Makhabane
5. Lebogang Mabatle‎
6. Lebogang Ramalepe
7. Silindile Ngubane
8. Gloria Thato‎
9. Ode Fulutudilu

I'm on it. It may take a little while. LadyofShalott 00:01, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Hmlarson (talk) 23:59, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Completed:

1. User:Hmlarson/Shiwe Nongwanya
2. User:Hmlarson/Shiwe NongwanyaAndile Dlamini
3. User:Hmlarson/Simphiwe Dludlu
4. User:Hmlarson/Mamello Makhabane
5. User:Hmlarson/Lebogang Mabatle
6. User:Hmlarson/Lebogang Ramalepe
7. User:Hmlarson/Silindile Ngubane
8. User:Hmlarson/Gloria Thato
9. User:Hmlarson/Ode Fulutudilu

 Done LadyofShalott 00:23, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! Hmlarson (talk) 00:24, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome! LadyofShalott 00:26, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

There are a number of Greek Letter Organizations (GLO) where the chapter listing has been split out into its own page due to length, the notability of that page follows from the notability of the GLO. Now this page is unreferenced (and will probably be fairly difficult to reference in anything that would be considered an acceptable source to wikipedia, but *that* is a completely different question. (Most of the American GLO chapter listing pages for chapters founded prior to 1991 can be referenced to Baird's Manual of American College Fraternities). I'll be happy to have this discussion either here or on the talk page for the article.Naraht (talk) 15:09, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

I support merge. HYH.124 (talk) 09:42, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi . You have been very helpful in the past. I recently created an article "Portelli" (I am doing numerous British sculptors) but had clicked on a "Guy Portelli" to create. I did not notice that this had been done with a Portelli|Guy Portelli format... so "Guy" has disappeared. I an unclear how to edit titles but presume YOU have such rights... can you add in "Guy" to the title. Thanks --Stephencdickson (talk) 12:34, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Stephen, it's now at Guy Portelli. Regards, LadyofShalott 14:39, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

thank you :) --Stephencdickson (talk) 21:27, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

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Hello! I saw you listed at Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles and am writing to request an article. Could I please have both the article and talk page of the deleted article at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marriage of Narendra Modi and Jashodaben Chimanlal? This could either be emailed to me or userfied. Thank you. Blue Rasberry (talk) 12:12, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Bluerasberry, I usually don't have any problem with these sorts of requests. The nature of this article (BLP1E, looks to be involve a private individual being dragged into the public eye) makes me somewhat more uncomfortable though. I'm not flat out saying no, but I need more information. Can you tell me what your thoughts/intentions are with it? LadyofShalott 15:59, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

I plan to remove it from Wikipedia and publish it privately on my blog, and perhaps blog on its deletion. I was not intending to draw you or anyone else into this and just chose your name because I thought this request was a matter of process and because I had no affiliation or history with you. Feel free to pass on this controversy if you wish for me to ask someone else. I am only looking for someone to do the technical action of providing me a copy of the content, and not looking for someone to review or support my case. If you are concerned about the individual's safety, I could make a case that the individual in question is regularly seeking media attention (like today) but I hope that you can just evaluate this as technical delivery of content. I only want to share positive and uplifting information that this woman wants shared about herself, and right now, Wikipedia is not the place to do this. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:31, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Well, I was going to tell you I'd done it, but I see there is no need. You may be interested to note the existence of <http://deletionpedia.org/en/Marriage_of_Narendra_Modi_and_Jashodaben_Chimanlal>. LadyofShalott 17:25, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for making yourself available for these requests and for doing this for me. I did not know that deletionpedia worked in that way. Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:31, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. Thank you for the information you provided - I do try to be careful with BLPs, and your link helped reassure me about this instance. LadyofShalott 17:33, 21 November 2014 (UTC)