User talk:Bkissin/Archive 7

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Thank you for approving Wikipedia Women Do News Edit-a-thon @ Luminary in NYC so quickly. Ejgertz (talk) 16:12, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

This should not have been approved for mainspace. It's now at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Women Do News Edit-a-thon @ Luminary in NYC.--Ipigott (talk) 17:00, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Ipigott, I wasn't sure about that when I pressed accept. Would it have worked if I had changed the name to the one you used above when putting it through AFC, or is it like Redirects, where people posting meetups should go through a separate channel to submit rather than articles for creation? Regardless, good luck next week to you and Ejgertz! Be sure to look at WP:NJOURNALIST for basic notability requirements so that we will be better able to assess the articles for mainspace. Bkissin (talk)

You need to be careful about what you put on mainspace as it is reserved for encyclopaedic articles. Anything else needs to go into one of the other slots. You don't need to have this kind of submission approved at AFC. If it had been presented it in the normal way for meetups, you or Ejgertz could have created it without asking for a review. On the basis of the detailed articles you have been writing recently, it looks to me as if you could move them straight into mainspace yourself without going through AFC. If you intend to write more articles about women, you should perhaps become a member of Women in Red where we could help you along. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 17:42, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for approving the AFC.--DoctorAB (talk) 00:02, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Bkissin, I hope to edit and resubmit or have someone else submit on my behalf? Is this something you can help with? I wanted to be able to record the fact that i had played senior football.

I was hoping to use the following references but need help with the format?

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1. • This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries^{[note 1]} except for the following:
     • Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising.^{[note 2]}
     • Works consisting merely of trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings, or the publications of contact and booking details in directories.
     • Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar), in most cases.
2. Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.
3. Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.
4. Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.^{[note 3]}
5. Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable).
6. Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles.^{[note 4]} This should be adapted appropriately for musical genre; for example, having performed two lead roles at major opera houses. Note that this criterion needs to be interpreted with caution, as there have been instances where this criterion was cited in a circular manner to create a self-fulfilling notability loop (e.g. musicians who were "notable" only for having been in two bands, of which one or both were "notable" only because those musicians had been in them.)
7. Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.
8. Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award.
9. Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition.
10. Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article. Read the policy and notability guideline on subjects notable only for one event, for further clarifications).
11. Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network.
12. Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network.

Note that members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases. Singers and musicians who are only notable for participating in a reality television series may be redirected to an article about the series, until they have demonstrated that they are independently notable.

Does Omotola meet any of those criteria or guidelines? I don't see that she does right now. If she does, add that information (with a proper reference, of course)

Best of luck!

Bkissin (talk) 14:14, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your honest review, i will make more research about Draft:Omotola Bello Barakat and would compose Draft:Trending Yoruba Names in an academic way. But could you please check my new article? Draft:Martin Fayomi. Thank you.Goldie19 (talk) 23:16, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your honest review, i will make more research about Draft:Omotola Bello Barakat and would compose Draft:Trending Yoruba Names in an academic way. But could you please check my new article? Draft:Martin Fayomi. Thank you.Goldie19 (talk) 23:16, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Calliopejen1 was:

Please read WP:Close paraphrasing. This is much too closely paraphrased from the cited sources. It is an interesting article and would be a good addition to Wikipedia if written fully in your own words. Please revise and resubmit.

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Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:24, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Bkissin! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:24, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello! I was showing some Wikipedia edits off on my twitter and they caught the attention of David Gokhshtein himself who needed help in the editing of his Wikipedia article.

I obliged always ready to help someone in need and all for the free and decentralized information on the web this sit provides. I worked on reorganizing links as well as making it look more formal. I should also tell you that he did pay me for this however this was of his own volition and I did not ask for it he just wanted to thank me for my help. I am unsure if this makes him my employer and me a paid editor? By technicality but either way I'm disclosing this information.

According to another wikipedian I've heard his article was declined as it did not meet standards of notability? Now I got the informal complaint and I have worked my best to fix that. I also believe I have.

However I see no reason why he would not be notable? He has several official sources backing up his name. And not only is he running for office I'm the 2020 congressional elections but his name is even mentioned in the wikipedia article as one of the runners.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections_in_New_York

(Link provided above, look under district 1)

This in my opinion not only speaks for his notoriety but should also address the fact that this is a chance to add missing information to this website.

I know I'm a very new editor but I have a passion for this already and I would appreciate any answers to why this article was and is being declined on that basis.

Best wishes - Emmanuel Pacings Emmanuel Pacings (talk) 02:48, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Bkissin.

I'm enthusiastic about primary challengers, which is why I wrote the Cisneros article. I live in New Orleans and work for an environmental nonprofit but am not working for the campaign. I think other people might be interested in all the research I have compiled. I submitted a draft with 23 citations from national articles that are about her candidacy, including CNN, CBS News, the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the Atlantic. I believe she meets the general notability guidelines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability#General_notability_guideline

Please review these links: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/10/jessica-cisneros-justice-democrats-aoc/599941/ https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/23/politics/jessica-cisneros-democrat-intern-henry-cuellar-trnd/index.html https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-congressmans-former-intern-challenges-him-in-democratic-primary/

What would I need to add to legitimize the page in your eyes? I went to the wikipedia help chat, and they said I should try talking to you because they thought the articles I provided possibly met the threshold. Kendalldix (talk) 19:50, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Kendalldix (talk) 13:54, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi Bkissin, I can usually easily help by explaining why sources are not independent, not significant, or not reliable. In this specific case, I had trouble finding a good explanation, so I'm redirecting this request to you. Thank you very much in advance. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:36, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Aloha, Need your support helping me to move Draft:Juliet Lyons into the main space. Allanbcool (talk) 00:52, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Juliet Lyons, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

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Bkissin (talk) 20:55, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

allanbcool, I'm not sure why this went to me, but that article is all set. Bkissin (talk) 21:07, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

I have edited some pages, and last year came up with a topic that does not exist. (cybercovernance or cyber-governance). The whole Wikipedia experience is restricted to insiders. I am very frustrated. I run an IT business, I can get elected to corporate boards, I am convinced that I could overcome the technobabble and exclusivity of Wikipedia. However I do not have the will or the time.

This is an environment for the initiated and those who have time to kill.

As an outsider, I find the learning curve too steep and the barriers to entry too high, so I will probably give up.

This is sad, since I am technically competent and have information to share. Just no way to share it in a reasonable way on this platform. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.140.72.66 (talk) 20:52, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Please read WP:CIR. The barriers to entry are a willingness to learn and a history of useful edits. Rather than climb that learning curve, you've chosen to foolishly complain to one of the insiders you accuse of holding you back. I surmise you're just a shameless self-promoter disappointed that your dreck doesn't fly here; maybe I'm wrong. Like any institution, it's designed for the insiders. If you cannot become an insider (and many do, everyday) then you don't belong here. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:02, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel that way. The reason the article was recently deleted is that it had not been edited or fixed in six months and just sat there, languishing in the draft space. In my mind, there were a few things holding back the article. First was that the sources provided weren't in inline citations next to the information they reference. Additionally, we have articles on Internet governance and Technology governance if you'd like to contribute your expertise there. Bkissin (talk) 21:12, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks so much for your help and support! Allanbcool (talk) 06:18, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Merry Christmas, Bkissin! Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969 TT me 11:12, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi there. Just wandering why you submitted this for review even though there was no difference from the previously declined version? Thanks, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 21:17, 20 December 2019 (UTC) @Willbb234:, mostly just to save it from G13. Seems like an article where sources could be found. I'll look into it later. Bkissin (talk) 21:19, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Doornfontein Synagogue, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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Bkissin (talk) 21:08, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Dear Bkissin,

I want to inform you that there is also an article in the German wikipedia about Clara Michelson at https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clara_Michelson. Perhaps you rethink your decision about the draft article Clara Michelson in the English Wikipedia at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Clara_Michelson.

All the best.

91.22.77.225 (talk) 21:51, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Just because the same article exists on one Wikipedia does not mean that it automatically makes it on another. In the five sentence article that currently exists, there is no explanation as to why she is important or how she fits WP:NBIO or WP:GNG. Is she an author? Just someone who died in the Shoah? You left a link to the Leo Baeck institute, but not only didn't you format the reference correctly (if you used that as a reference), we also don't know what information you grabbed from that reference. So at this point, no, I don't think I'm going to rethink my decision. Bkissin (talk) 21:56, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

An article you recently created, Orange-blue coalition, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 07:04, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Bkissin

Thank you for creating Jasmin Airways.

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Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:19, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment regarding the draft article on Sir Thomas Saunders

To briefly summarize the Aylesbury elections of 1640, I'll quote from an article I wrote this year on Sir Thomas Saunders.

'We find a reference to a Certificate of Return from April 28, 1640 to Sir Thomas Saunders to be ‘one of the burgesses for the borough of Aylesbury5. It is worth noting the exact terms of the entry, as the same terms are used to describe the election to Parliament of others in Buckinghamshire, including Bennett Hoskyns, whose certificate is dated the very day previous to Sir Thomas’. We have further record of Hoskyns sitting for Wendover in Bucks to confirm it. There are records of the return to Parliament of several Buckinhamshire men in April of 1640. Sir John Pakington, Bt. And Thomas Fountain appear to be the first members, while Ralph Verney was the second member. We find reference to a double return in the Aylesbury election with ‘Two of the Burgessess returned not to fit till further order; one, returned in both Indentures, to fit, 1 May’6. The Short Parliament only sat for less than a month (from April 13 to May 5). It appears as if the double return references the fact that Sir John Pakington was also returned for Worcester County, for which he decided to serve. Pakington and Verney had initially been returned for Aylesbury, but after Pakington decided to sit for Wocester, another election took place7. Perhaps Sir Thomas Saunders, instead of Ralph Verney had been returned to Parliament alongside Thomas Fountain. I think its highly likely that the records of these two or so weeks are incomplete and that it is likely that Sir Thomas Saunders represented Aylesbury in Parliament, albeit for a very short period of time. If this is true, Sir Thomas was amongst several friends and associates from Buckinghamshire returned to Parliament, including John Hampden and Arthur Goodwin. Local elections were usually overseen by the High Sheriff of the County. It is interesting to note that the High Sheriff of Buckinghamshire in 1640 was Sir Thomas Piggott, a neighbor of the Saunders and as mentioned before, connected to the Saunders family through the Blounts.

The entry for the return of Sir Thomas Saunders as a MP for Aylesbury can be viewed online here: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nnc1.0049729870&view=1up&seq=55

I hope this helps to clear things up! Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by DS1284 (talk • contribs) 21:11, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

You recently tagged Draft:Shiva Makinian as a copyright violation, and I have deleted it on that basis. Thank you.

However, you did not notify the page creator Keyhan narimannia of the tagging. I have done this on your behalf. It is considers very mush normal practice to notify the page creator of any speedy deletion tagging. Twinkle can be set to do this automatically, I believe. In any case, all the speedy deletion templates, when placed, include code which can be copied and place on the creator's user talk page manually to give such a notification. Or you can do it completely manually, but I would advise using the template or Twinkle, myself.

If taggers do not notify page creators, editors, particularly relatively new editors, do not understand why and how a draft or article vanished, and complain at the teahouse or help desk, or simply become discourages and leave. In any case the education which the notice is intended to give an editor is lost. Please remember to notify in future. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 21:24, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

hi there... my request to publish the page was declined by you.. I know about that as all the resources aint suitable for wikipedia article. He is a very talented person and well known personality he is working onn various films right now.. i think this should be rechecked please — Preceding unsigned comment added by MNSH Saikia (talk • contribs) 16:01, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Bkissin. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "John Nitti".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Lapablo (talk) 11:43, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

There is a lot there. But the source from the Library of Congress/ADST is more than 400 pages. Hence the stub. I have a BA in international relations but here neither the time nor the experience with Eastern Europe to sift through that level of detail and take what is most important/relevant. My goal is someone who knows better than I do can improve the article, either through that reference or others they may find. Hence the stub tag. But it is less likely any experts will find it if it is still a draft. Postcard Cathy (talk) 20:43, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Definitely understand Postcard Cathy. Been there, done that with the BA in International Relations. A quick Google Search pulled nothing else up? Not even doing Google Scholar? I'll see what I can find. Normally we like to have at least three reliable sources for an article, hence my reticence with accepting as well. Bkissin (talk) 20:49, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

I will take whatever help I can get. The potential is there. I just need help.

Here's a quick blurb about his career in an old copy of State Magazine via Google Books Bkissin (talk) 20:56, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Wow. I’ll have to take a better look. Really quick look seems like you put in a lot of work. Thank you very much. Postcard Cathy (talk) 17:49, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!, thanks for reviewing Draft:OceanFirst Bank, I've made a few adjustments to clean up article's tone. Would you take a look? I wanted to know if it still makes noise, could you tell me which part do you feel like marketing speak? I just want to know your opinion so I can improve the draft. I appreciate your help Bkissin
AngelicaDos (talk) 15:49, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

I rephrased the article to describe the subject in a "broad strokes" sort of fashion. I wanted to be less detailed about services, clients, and money. I think its better now. Should I resubmit? AngelicaDos (talk) 15:16, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Yeah... go ahead. However, if (for any reason) you have been paid by OceanFirst to create this article, you will need to follow the proper conflict of interest and paid editing disclosures before we can even consider moving forward. Bkissin (talk) 15:32, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

I am sorry I was unaware of this policy, I just updated my user page. Thanks I will read WP:COI thoroughly and resubmit. AngelicaDos (talk) 16:20, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Hey Bkissin happy new year, thanks for accepting my submission you made my day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AngelicaDos (talk • contribs) 20:49, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Orange-blue coalition, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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Bkissin (talk) 20:31, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

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