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You might be interested in this. One editor seems determined to delete your edit.Jimintheatl (talk) 00:05, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up. Will address when I get home. I'm on a BlackBerry right now. Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 02:03, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Taking a quick glance at User talk:Threeafterthree, there appears to be a pattern of: (1) drawing similar complaints for repeatedly deleting from conservatives' articles anything negative, even when properly cited from reliable sources in full compliance with WP:BLP; and, (2) repeatedly edit warring to enforce (1). Instead of participating in any edit wars, when confronted with such an impasse, I prefer to apply an NPOV tag to help expedite a consensus, upon which time I then promptly remove the tag. Thanks again. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 02:44, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No need for a new section, I thought. Anyway .. I didn't want you to think I was camping your edits or anything - I was going to reword your latest edit to Santelli from:

"Criticism of Santelli's remarks continued. CNBC's Jim Cramer said of Santelli, "I dislike what he said. I thought that it was bad."

to something like

"Criticism of Santelli's remarks continued, with CNBC's Jim Cramer saying about Santelli, "I dislike what he said. I thought it was bad."

It seems trivial, I know, but given that the article is calming down, I didn't want you to get the wrong idea.Curious brain (talk) 19:50, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect. By all means, please do make the change if you haven't already. Thanks very much. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 20:33, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't know what got sand up your whatever, but can you lay off the reverts of my edits? It's sort of creepy.Jimintheatl (talk) 02:10, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As I tell my students "It depends". Have you noticied that I have only reverted the edits which I "disagree" with you on and not every edit you make? I would also be happy to use the article talk page or this page more, even though I try to although you have accussed me of not doing that. I used to never edit "political" articles because I knew how "sided" they probably were, but I have found them to be interesting lately. Unfortuneately many articles, even ones you would never think of as having "sides", do have "sides" and I enjoy trying to find balance and defending a "side" even if I don't support that "side". Anyways, Tom 02:24, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good to see the two of you making up after all the edit warring. Looks like the end of this dispute might be in sight.

Tom, as to your request, "Please comment on this article and not editors," that's exactly what I always try to do. However, the current dispute seems to be the latest example of a pattern visible on this very user talk page. I'd rather not go into specifics because it might seem like a personal attack, but if you honestly don't see the pattern and request me to clarify it, I would be happy to oblige you.

Please suggest a path forward. Thanks. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 09:50, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(above entry deleted by User:Threeafterthree with edit summary, "thanks but I would rather take advice from non agenda driven editors")

Your edit summary, "thanks but I would rather take advice from non agenda driven editors" sounds like the pot calling the kettle black. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 18:08, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(above two entries deleted by User:Threeafterthree with edit summary, "read and rm comment. At least my agenda is clearly stated on my user page.")

• 3RR warning
• Removed with edit summary "read and noted, thank you"
• Replied with "You're welcome."
• Removed with edit summary "read"

There are serious, longstanding problems with the inclusion of the Olbermann attack on Goldberg on the latter's article page. Can I ask you to please go over the history of this as recorded on the article's discussion page, and present your arguments there, before reverting again? Thanks! Mark Shaw (talk) 13:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you can. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 13:19, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur, many thanks for your imput and continuing interest on this issue. Please see my most recent comments on the article's discussion page. Regards. 68.183.246.93 (talk) 22:23, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please review and participate in the discussion to determine if/how Houston neighborhood articles should be merged/redirected to List of Houston neighborhoods. Thanks, Postoak (talk) 21:43, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated Phillips explosion of 1999, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phillips explosion of 1999. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

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RE: your Merge thoughts. I replied here. Exit2DOS2000^•T•C• 04:07, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks very much. I do appreciate it. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 06:44, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the notice. My rebuttal to this frivolous incident report is here. Thanks again. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 02:37, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It didn't get any traction; you probably could have ignored it completely. But the notice is required so it only seemed fair.  Frank  |  talk  02:51, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No surprise there. BTW, I just found out that ShanYang and 69.122.132.127 are one and the same. He wrote:

Does anyone know how to remove revisions en-masse? I wish to remove my contributions(including those I made as 69.122.132.127 before I opened an account). —Preceding unsigned comment added by ShanYang (talk • contribs) 21:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's sad that he now wants to remove all his contributions to the article. Not sure why he'd want to undo all that effort, not to mention that doing so would technically constitute vandalism. If you would be willing to try to talk him out of it, I'd be grateful. I don't think he'd be very receptive to any such effort on my part. Thanks again. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 03:06, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind my request, above. Apparently he's already undone all his revisions. As best I can tell, someone adding a wikify tag is what triggered his desire to undo all his previous work. I've reverted it back, I issued a v1 warning on his talk page, and I responded to his statement (copied above) at the bottom of the article's talk page. Thanks again. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 04:43, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think my note above still applies: You probably could have ignored it completely. My own opinion - not necessarily totally steeped in specific policy but probably still reflective of community opinion - is that tagging the edits removing previous contributions as vandalism is pretty much kicking a man while he's down, especially when you were involved (at least in said editor's mind) in a dispute with the editor immediately prior to it. We have many thousands of active editors around here; perhaps if someone else had taken note already (i.e. the wikify tag you refer to?) you could have left it to someone else to explain to the user.

On another note, I have to say I disagree with this assessment: ...this user is strongly encouraged to make all future edits via this account instead of 69.122.132.127... It's true we do encourage users to have individual accounts, but anonymous editing is also welcome. You noted that you didn't consider the editing pattern (IP first, then account) to be socking, which appears to be correct. In my mind, that conclusion renders the strong encouragement moot; there's no policy-based reason I know of that supports it. If it is being used to mask or continue disruptive behavior, that's another story, but I don't see that...do you?  Frank  |  talk  09:51, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see all your points. The reason for my swift action was because I didn't want the article to get new edits, which would greatly entangle any effort to undo all his undo's. Yes, if time were not of the essence, I would have had no problem waiting for you or John to make nice with him. Yes, he was down, but the person who apparently kicked him down was John, not me, because all the undo's immediately followed John's placement of the wikify tag. On the contrary, I thanked him for all his valuable contributions, and I suspect my solution might have been a face-saving way for his contributions to remain. I just can't believe he really wanted all that work utterly wasted. IMHO, he just wanted to be appreciated, and my actions made clear how appreciated his efforts are.

As for your other point, whenever one edits without logging in, they see the following notice: "You are not currently logged in. If you save any edits, your IP address will be recorded publicly in this page's edit history. If you create an account, you can conceal your IP address and be provided with many other benefits." That seems like strong encouragement to me, but perhaps I'm reading too much into it.

Thanks again for your help and advice. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 13:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Art, thanks for your interest in becoming a campus ambassador. If you have any questions about this role just let me know, otherwise, I can just email the application to whatever address is convenient for you. Thanks! Pjthepiano (talk) 13:07, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Art@ArtSmart.tv is the best to use. Thanks again. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 13:08, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Art... I was wondering if you might do me a favour? I am working on changes to the HA article in my user space, and every time you make a change I need to adjust my version too, so that your changes are not lost when I bring my version back. Obviously, everyone will be free to edit / comment on 'my' version and I am not claiming ownership of the article, but if you could hold off on more changes for a few hours, I'd be grateful. Thanks. EdChem (talk) 10:16, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oops! Terribly sorry. You bet. What's the saying? Too many cooks spoiled the broth. I'll leave it to your very capable hands. BTW, please feel free to make incremental changes to the article itself, rather than editing in your user space. I know you'd like to get it perfect before going online with it, but I must confess I've never known another editor who used your very diligent method. Perhaps the pain of conflicting edits (like yours and mine) discourages most from doing so. Just my two cents' worth. Thanks again for all your tremendous help. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 10:23, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No need to be sorry, and thanks for holding off. It's not that I fear edit conflicts, nor my tendency to perfectionism. I had a change I planned to build on undone, and I don't want to be discussing individual edits which are only part of an expansion; simply discussing the overall change seems more productive.  :) Regards. EdChem (talk) 13:31, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gotcha. Makes perfect sense. Thanks again for all of your contributions. Very much obliged. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 23:23, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've posted a new version. Your comments are welcomed and encouraged.  :) EdChem (talk) 23:29, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's a gorgeous piece of work, my friend. You're a Wikipedia rock star, in my opinion. Consider me a groupie. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 23:56, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I think the new version is policy-compliant, and hope it is a suitable base from which others can build. Maybe it could even reach GA-status one day. I found more references than I used, so who knows how much more can be said. At least the basic info on HA is now covered. EdChem (talk) 00:08, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I honestly think you spent much more time on the HA then that piss ant organization deserves. I hope your research also can be used in articles of other conversion therapy groups. Now please take a few moments to vote to remove the two tags at the top of such a great article. If you don't vote, it will take longer to establish a consensus to remove them. Thanks. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 00:16, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

EdChem, I just learned that my sister died today, so I'm taking a Wikibreak. I can't see through tears well enough to work on a PC anyway. Please let others know so they won't think I'm abandoning the project. Once there's a consensus to remove the NPOV tag, please do so. Thanks. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 02:25, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Art, take all the time you need, and let me express my heart-felt sympathies on your loss. A death in the family always hurts, and unfortunately I speak from experience, so I truly can empathise with your pain. Remember to take care of yourself as you also help in supporting your family and your sister's friends. I will pass on your !vote and explain your situation at the HA talk page. EdChem (talk) 05:09, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks. Will do. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 03:32, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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You have been mentioned in an incident here. Lionel (talk) 20:52, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur, please avoid making personal remarks like that in the future.   Will Beback  talk  22:47, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I take great comfort in the outpouring of support for exactly what I said and how I said it. The shoe seems to fit. Nonetheless, I'll heed your advice, knowing that precious few other Wikipedia editors prevaricate with such impunity, and the lone exception of which I am aware has already lost all credibility with me and therefore shall be completely ignored henceforth. BTW, sorry you were bothered by this incident. Were it up to me, I would never go crying to the admins because my wittle feewings were hurt. Thanks. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 08:32, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Will, I just read your comments, and I agree with you 100%. Thanks! --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 08:43, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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You have put a warning about edit warring on my page. Reverting something twice as per discussion on talk page does not constitute "edit warring". Do not abuse warnings like this please. Mezigue (talk) 10:08, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's why it was only a warning. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 12:46, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, this is the warning mentioned above but since deleted. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 12:50, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on the new proposal. FutureTrillionaire (talk) 01:52, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 09:00, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks. Will keep an eye on the article. I left a message on their talk page about the problematic username. They haven't replied, though I see they've been engaging in more impersonation in the meantime. Neljack (talk) 00:41, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They blocked him indefinitely here. Thanks again. --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 03:37, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Very nice tool. Please suggest it on the World Chess Championship 2014 English-language talk page. I will definitely support the idea. Much obliged --Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 07:20, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Art, what is going on with these insults in your edit summaries? Can you not just chill and do your thing without incident? No need for this to escalate further for naught, is my thinking. Again, you may edit your talk page pretty much as you see fit, including by blanking it entirely. But being respectful to others, that isn't negotiable, I'm afraid. El_C 18:58, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It had nothing to do with you. Please ignore. Thanks. Sorry for any confusion that might have caused. Art Smart ^Chart/Heart 19:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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